l'm leeds and going to the old den in the late seventies and mid eighties was never a easy away day to say the least...respect to the old boys of millwall lusc
@ExBuryBoy
12 жыл бұрын
''Not off a Northerner.'' I'm Northern but I had to laugh at that. Priceless!
@triptechable
9 жыл бұрын
BP - RIP Black Charlie - RIP Tiny - RIP Black Lennie - RIP Mad Pat - RIP Ginger Brixton - RIP Morgan Fisher - RIP Dave Rand - RIP A lot of the old faces have departed and left us. Millwall isnt what it once was. Anarchy, beautiful chaos. There's a few left but all it is now is a few lads ripping up some netting. Unless we're talking Millwall v Millwall. Walworth/Peckham/Bermondsey never liked each other but on their day when they were on the same hymn sheet unbeatable. Took what ever stand, bus, pub they liked. Sadly modern footballs killed the commadary - im not on about the rucking, the social aspect of it all. Terracing walk along... bump into some matey you aint seen for years. Now your chained to a plastic chair. Millwall died when we left the old den for me. There was echos of old derby 93/94! :D The DLF got smashed to bits for 6 hours that day. Brum away 95, Forest home 2001. Chelsea away 95. Sadly soon memories like that will have drifted away along with the stone island jackets and everyone will sit in silence, broken only for the odd clapping for a corner. everyone in a replica kit. The pnly recent tear up of any signifigance was when hudds fans attacked a couple of Minibuses. Battle of water loo. They huds fans hiding in there pub soon realised those minibushes where full of old face and fresh faced SAS lads. Great vid if you can see it. The glory days if you can call it that are gone.
@westsidecrew5578
4 жыл бұрын
Just curious as millwall allegedly had a big far right following at the time so how come they had blacks in their firm? How did they all get on??
@guddlom7655
2 жыл бұрын
I went with a old Millwall mate of mine called Baz to Chesterfield away 83, Millwall were mental that day they clashed with a mob of 100 or so Man Utd who backed away from 50 or so Millwall outside a pub, they were on their way 2 Notts County last game of the season it was a week b4 they played Brighton at Wembley. Reason why there was only 50 Millwall involved was because the rest were in the pub totally oblivious to what was going on.I was a Man City fan in them days and decided to go watch Millwall with Baz instead of watching City who had Luton at home and were to my and many others complete surprise RELEGATED
@tosseberg
14 жыл бұрын
Cool! I became a Millwall-fan at Jason's age. In those days Swedish Television showed a game from the English leauge's two first divisions every saturday. Most poeople choose to follow a top-team. But since I'm a Hammarby-, and a Karlstad-Göta-fan my heart was/is allways with the under-dogs. Therefore I looked for a team to follow in the lower parts of the second division. There I found it: A name that a also could pronounse before I learned English, and that team was: Millwall!
@charlesfisher757
13 жыл бұрын
@infokemp people are stupid if they think Millwall today is like Millwall from the 70s. I saw Brentford v Millwall last year (I am a Brentford fan) and the behaviour of the Millwall fans was exemplary. A great atmosphere and a match I really enjoyed.
@H4CK61
2 жыл бұрын
My old mob the Treatment great times but when I look back what a stupid prat I was. Wisdom comes with age lol.
@michaelwilson6483
5 жыл бұрын
Give a little love, take a little love be prepared to forsake a little love and when the sun comes shining through we'll know what to do When i walk with you there is just we two and the world goes by and i just don't care-are and i know one day i will find a way to be safe and sound within your hear-eart So until i do, gonna give a little love, take a little love be prepared to forsake a little love and when the sun comes shining through we'll know what to do-oo
@infokemp
12 жыл бұрын
P2) You started off with a projection (without evidence) so that you could build your own ego up - if you knew the right western philosophy you would know how to make a proper argument - I did not identify myself as a football hooligan or other Millwall fans as hooligans, I was saying that the tone & assertion of the program was that Millwall was only of interest to BBC's doc as a hit piece on hooliganism my family are from the area around Millwall but that does not make me a thug; I a citizen.
@johnschofield2560
2 жыл бұрын
Good shout mate.
@lovecraft36
13 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Harry the Dog, Legend..
@philwoollin6470
Жыл бұрын
millwall who are they lufc alaw mot
@infokemp
12 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate I will check out your channel. All the best David
@michaelharrison3602
2 жыл бұрын
"The bleak windswept terraces" its South London for fuck sake not the Russian steppe
@MarkBailey-hn7uv
Жыл бұрын
Who is the band in this ?
@n974kpv
13 жыл бұрын
when was spurs millwalls traditonal enemy thats a new one on me
@johnschofield2560
2 жыл бұрын
I'm Lpool supporter, always told by cockney's down the year's. Biggest rivalry is west ham vs. Spurs???
@infokemp
12 жыл бұрын
P3) If people defend their reputation (or themselves; sometimes riots happen but it does not mean those around the area instigate them) - my main point was defending reputation - if I want to fight I have a gym just around the corner from me to practice boxing MMA or Jujitsu. If I want to play football with my mates the park is there & if I want to see Millwall I go to Millwall. What does fighting have to do with that except in self-defence. Nothing. MFC!
@infokemp
12 жыл бұрын
If you understood theory of mind you would understand that people have different experiences in life & thus base their analysis on those experiences & knowledge. Just saying pick up a book; which book; its not just the quality of information but the quality of your analytical reasoning; you thought I was making a generalization but I have know of criminals with the accent I described I was being specific from direct experience. These pseduo-anthropological studies of Millwall fans are hyprocisy
@salfordchameleon
12 жыл бұрын
no mention when they came to manchester in 1974 they didn't get out of the train station and were sent packing by Man United's Red Army lol !!!
@mickfoskett6629
2 жыл бұрын
True..but they had us at the den cos the mancs smashed their special up and didn't make the game so we were well outnumbered that night..weren't good!😱👹
@lukassssi
2 жыл бұрын
thousands of red army against 150 millwall...brave boys
@niceguy1
2 ай бұрын
And what did the famous Red Army at Millwall 😂😂😂
@nogingerfool1
12 жыл бұрын
they are well into 50,s now around the 55+ mark some still go others drifted away Harry the dog died a few years ago now, some blokes in this vid will be 59 easy "oh SOUTH LONDON is wonedrfull"
@infokemp
12 жыл бұрын
You must of been half asleep to troll my first comment - zzzzzz - not surprising at all.
@3rk4u
14 жыл бұрын
i love milwall,outnumberd phycos who never run,working class to d core,a credit to the football league ha ha,im man city but went to d den a few times when i was down in london,fukin loved it,a proper day out.
@infokemp
12 жыл бұрын
Shame we could not get a win at the Den against Blackpool (2-2) but by all accounts it was a great game, Keogh and Kane did well for us and we ended the season as the highest South London team. MFC! Millwall forever!
@triptechable
9 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I recognise a "clever essex lad" uncle there, Greg. Pos his old man as well.
@KevinJKtheman
12 жыл бұрын
I've read reports that Harry the Dog, featured in this documentry died a few years back, can anyone confirm this ?
@MrStonecold69
13 жыл бұрын
this is fuckin BOSS EXCELLENT UPLOAD
@johnschofield2560
2 жыл бұрын
Great shout mate.
@IDMWEIGHTSIDM
12 жыл бұрын
wow, year i was born, just seems weird for some reason.
@liverpoolpictorial
11 жыл бұрын
LOL! Still wearing flares in 1977. Cracking vid though. Thanks.
@infokemp
12 жыл бұрын
Compare what you have wrote with your childish use of language & projections to deflect away from the fact that you are just trolling with no argument to make; you lost in the first reply (not that there was anything to "win"- you cannot just understand the simple concept that you don't have the same knowledge or experience of life as me, not in quantitative or quality but just a separate experience & knowledge) - stating omniscient in all things is just arrogance which is based on ignorance
@michaelharrison3602
2 жыл бұрын
So who are you?? James Bond
@MisAnnThorpe
14 жыл бұрын
@1proudBritain Is there a letter r missing from the end of tosse?
@TheJoe12345678910
14 жыл бұрын
@se13gpenny yeah not as much no more but yeah thay do
@Claymor621
12 жыл бұрын
8:04 "We went to Sunderland" "did you come back alive?" :-)
@Marshyd15
9 жыл бұрын
As a Villa fan I can say we had some of the best hooligan firms in the 70s and 80s, like the Steamers and C-crew, but Milwall firms were always tough bastards. Full of absolute loons haha.
@westsidecrew5578
4 жыл бұрын
Were millwall the toughest firm you have come across?
@MisAnnThorpe
14 жыл бұрын
@tosseberg You say you are a Hammarby, (whatever that means?) wouldn't the obvious English team for you to support, have been West Ham?!
@anthonymitchell8893
Жыл бұрын
it's a football team you silly sausage
@infokemp
13 жыл бұрын
@DelStrainComedy Thanks All the best David
@notnavonnam
11 жыл бұрын
1:34 is the british narrator saying "soccer"?
@TheJoe12345678910
14 жыл бұрын
nice one tosseberg up the lions MILLWALL
@infokemp
13 жыл бұрын
@charlesfisher757 Excellent comment - have a Merry Christmas! MFC!
@burnleyfan11965
12 жыл бұрын
first off we find out F troop didnt go to sunderland,next thing theyre claiming they go away every fixture.Am also amazed that black kid felt ok with all them millwall hooligans in the late 70s.
@smnbee75
2 жыл бұрын
That's Tiny, and he was one of them, a legend on the terraces. Why is that so hard to believe?
@michaelharrison3602
2 жыл бұрын
Millwall has always had lots of black kids in their firm some of their top boys have been black.same at West ham and most firms .football fans are more concerned with the colour of your shirt than your skin. you can choose which team you support. The press try to make out that football is a hotbed of racism its just the middle classes villifying the working class "they're all racist thugs" You'll find more racism in the house of parliament than you'll find on the average building site .but that's all right they went to jolly good schools and have titles or the letters MP after their name. So when they appear on TV talking about nig nogs or darkies that's not racism that's just a light hearted affectionate term. But if a football fan shouts at a black or foreign player he's a racist bigot
@raymondc666
11 жыл бұрын
delia smith cooks for billy
@vivalapatrianob
12 жыл бұрын
saludos de argentina vamos newells old boys
@lionsroar1000
11 жыл бұрын
F troup were monster!!!
@DukeOfEarlStreet
12 жыл бұрын
nutters lol
@triptechable
12 жыл бұрын
@KevinJKtheMan - yeah 1995 I think.
@mcsquare77
11 жыл бұрын
That's because the Seaburn Casuals would of kicked their arses!
@niceguy1
2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Claymor621
12 жыл бұрын
At 4:14, F Troop frightened to go to Sunderland.
@niceguy1
2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@infokemp
12 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to see some old clips of the old Den & I've got into some bloody long political discussion on football hooliganism. Well done Millwall on 3-0 victory against Ipswich - fifth straight win & not conceeding defeat against Blackpool. RIP Barry Kitchener MFC Legend.
@freemaxmedia
13 жыл бұрын
Adrian Smith, one of the world's greatest guitarists accidently in one of the world's funniest documentaries.
@TheJoe12345678910
14 жыл бұрын
billy plummer is my uncle and jason who sings lol
@mhb2005
15 жыл бұрын
12-14 millwall ran all those spurs haha
@jimweir6735
3 жыл бұрын
They ended up in hospital don't dream
@britishqueen94
Жыл бұрын
@@jimweir6735 it wasn't wall but Charlton trying to get their end back from Spurs. Same result tho ended up in hospital....Funny how Panaroma weren't there to film Wall get run on OKR by Spurs or film them get run and terrorised at WHL with Ginger Brixton given a good hiding
@infokemp
12 жыл бұрын
On my channel I've done boxing & jujitsu videos & vlogs on economics, current events, history - on your channel you've liked videos about buying Khorans to burn & west side story - who is better read; now you may of just liked those videos to save them (fair enough) but if you think people burning Khorans is the way to fight terrorism or is enough- when Saudi Bandar & Binladen crime families control most of our oil supply & the petro-dollar system - well your lacking judgement - West fight back
@mexicanroadsweeper
12 жыл бұрын
Firstly, your assumption that an individuals accent accurately indicates his/her position with respect to a perceived class war is ludicrous. Your assertion that football fans are identifiable as a group in terms of their employment status and/or their participation in ‘hooliganism’ is ridiculous. And Finally, your claim that hooliganism is a defensive response rather than an act of free will, is hilarious. Pick up a book dummy, its nothing to be scared of? It might even set you free!
@tosseberg
14 жыл бұрын
Millwall since 1977! Karlstad/Värmland/Sweden When I was young and just a boy...
@Isleofskye
9 жыл бұрын
Died November,2014.
@Busybee65
11 жыл бұрын
And you pinkies were a no show at Millwall in 1974, FACT, You bottled it big time.
@michaelharrison3602
2 жыл бұрын
That's nearly 50years ago how much longer are you going to keep going on about it?
@anthonymitchell8893
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelharrison3602 it was really 39 years ago because he posted in 2013 so saying 50 years was a bit harsh give the old gezzer a break sir and if i tell you the name of his nursing home please be respectful when you visit thank you
@Isleofskye
9 жыл бұрын
How did Billy die,please Joe ?
@smnbee75
2 жыл бұрын
Apparently he took his own life due to depression. So I heard.
@Isleofskye
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, My Friend. I think I heard that, as well, back in the day. Do you know what happened to any other high-profile others of that era, please? I know "Tiny" / Ian Garwood died in 2012.
@smnbee75
2 жыл бұрын
@@Isleofskye from what I heard, Harry the Dog died some years ago due to an alcohol related illness. I heard about about Tiny. Apparently before he passed he had a friendly phone conversation with Bill Gardiner from the ICF that left him in tears. Very sad to lose these legends, I grew up in South London, my dad took me to the Old Den back in 81'. I was only 6 lol. The ground was a shit hole but the atmosphere was electric, a real buzz just being there.
@Isleofskye
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, My Friend. I grew up in East Lane Market and moved 12 miles to Bexley to this house 38 years ago, in 1983. Where are you now , please ?
@smnbee75
2 жыл бұрын
@@Isleofskye grew up in Camberwell, but living down in Croydon now.
@infokemp
12 жыл бұрын
- stop wasting my time -
@williambeck1574
Жыл бұрын
Gwladys Street end scallies
@mexicanroadsweeper
12 жыл бұрын
zzzzzzz
@mexicanroadsweeper
12 жыл бұрын
Wow, do you actually think about what you are typing or are you suffering from a mental condition compelling you attempt intellectual discourse beyond your capacity? Stop it, it;s silly!
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