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@Dru_Won
Жыл бұрын
Nice man this is like Haley asmr. Its not like her speaking voice allows her to do it herself
@Dru_Won
Жыл бұрын
Nevermind her voice just kicked in and scared the shit out of me
@Dru_Won
Жыл бұрын
*shite
@craigcarlston
Жыл бұрын
Ever notice how good 4 u is the other girls perspective?
@harrychapin808
Жыл бұрын
Hey there little lady... I didn't even know who "PARAMORE" was until U appeared in my feed. NEVER heard of EMO-POP. Definitely quirky and different muzik! One fact is absolute- U have a POWERFUL VOICE with ENERGY to match. Certainly doesn't hurt that Ur TOTALLY ADORABLE! If U like female vocalists and don't know her... give "SANDRA DENNY" a listen. She passed in 1978 under very sad circumstances. A memorable song of hers is "WHO KNOWS WHERE THE TIME GOES" She was a 1000 year old soul with the heart of a cherub. Her voice will send shivers down Ur spine.
@exqueue3813
Жыл бұрын
She wrote it as a teenager. It's how teenagers can feel, their emotions are dialed up to 11.
@LowResBS240p
Жыл бұрын
Remember that the British tend to have a very shitty history of making exaggerated titles shitting on people when it comes to journalism lol
@conradicalized
Жыл бұрын
In some way, by attempting to stifle the song & its raw content, she became the 42 year old LA guy censoring lyrics into bland mush. A silly character arc for someone who started out as a reaction against exactly that persona. I’m glad at the end she came round.
@samanfersilyk
Жыл бұрын
exactly! i'm sure if my thoughts as a teenager were recorded and forever online they wouldn't be all rainbows and butterflies.
@senorita-qh6bm
Жыл бұрын
Yes and it sounds like your intrusive thoughts too like a high school girl being petty/jealous and projecting her insecurities onto the girl with the more developed body
@annnee6818
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, everything is so intense, I remember it well, it wasn't altogether enjoyable. I think it's very worrying how many old people forget what it felt like and look down on kids for being "dramatic" and "emo". It's a normal stage of development, you wouldn't look down on a baby for having to eat every couple hours, that's just how stuff works.
@sometimesitbelikedat2529
Жыл бұрын
"And the boy who would be Skrillex" was an amazing phrase for some reason hahaha. As if "Skrillex" is a title passed from one generation to another. "There he is! The Skrillex!"
@whereisawesomeness
Жыл бұрын
The artist soon to be known as Skrillex
@deeelle6567
Жыл бұрын
Every 100 years, a random boy vanishes from the village, only to return different...as The Skrillex. If you misbehave, The Skrillex will be hiding under your bed or in your closet and will come to eat you.
@sometimesitbelikedat2529
Жыл бұрын
@@deeelle6567 And you always know The Skrillex is coming because of the wuub wuub sound serving as a harbinger of doom.
@AngDevigne
Жыл бұрын
Omg I love this! The lore behind the Skrillex... Thank you 🙏
@senorita-qh6bm
Жыл бұрын
Your comment is so cute I screenshot it 😂
@jacobsmith2285
Жыл бұрын
I’m a dude that’s 27 and I have an older sister, and she blasted this shit all day as a teen, and I have to admit I always sang along. What absolutely blows my mind is she wrote all those songs at such a young age. The whole band was pure talent. Rare.
@Xxjorgex123
Жыл бұрын
@CLB Ronin dude I’m 25 and I’m starting to feel old af
@Doradexplora
Жыл бұрын
31, and a dude. Didn't like the 'emo' bands. Never liked panic, FOB (though I came back around on a few songs a few years back), or MCR; but paramore had something real. I think it says a lot that even though i fell away from Rock entirely as a genre, there's maybe about 10 paramore songs that I keep listening to, and coming back to even a decade later. Considering about 99% of what I listen to is Soul, Dance (techno/house/disco), it speaks volumes about how special paramore are that I listen to even one of their songs now, not to mind 10.
@steinbauge4591
Жыл бұрын
They did not quit, back now it seems
@lizzard4890
Жыл бұрын
Taylor always had this good boy, just doing his best energy and was a fav of mine when he was added. To now realize that he was the sole Paramore member for a moment, is both hilarious and reaffirms that Paramore would be NOTHING without him. The quietest member, added last, and possibly the least well known is the one of the main reasons they're still here and we must stan him for that always
@Dru_Won
Жыл бұрын
Nothing without HIM ?
@iliketrains3495
Жыл бұрын
Taylor York is considered the least well known? I feel like he's more well-known than Zac and Jeremy (hell I just found out about the latter's 'rap' career)
@kingofrunescapepking
Жыл бұрын
I don't know about least well-known but definitely the most underrated member of Paramore
@alealana197
Жыл бұрын
I AGREE, I love you Taylor
@youweremymuse
Жыл бұрын
Taylor is responsible for Paramore's sound change in AL. Idk how much Jeremy contributed to writing for Self Titled but Taylor's been a main songwriter ever since he joined. So he's to thank for all the bops Paramore's given us lately! He is hugely talented and very stannable. And those curls? To die for.
@MaggieMaeFish
Жыл бұрын
I've had their latest single "This is Why" stuck in my head for days, so thanks for that!!! 🤙
@rahbeeuh
Жыл бұрын
Stuck in mine too
@Amarok41
Жыл бұрын
Just watched your last vid. Awesome running into you here as well
@logarhythmic6859
Жыл бұрын
@@Amarok41 (She also helped trash theory make this vid by voicing all the quotes from Hayley Williams)
@duckdudette
Жыл бұрын
You were perfect for this video! Been a fan since Cracked and I'm excited to keep watching you take over youtube on your own :D
@thenaiam
Жыл бұрын
Maggie Mae, I thought that was you! I love stumbling into all your cameos!
@damdamfino
Жыл бұрын
Good songs capture a moment, an emotion, a feeling. They’re not PSAs or Billboards. Sometimes we want to rage at that b that took “our man.” She seems really cut up and guilty about it, but she literally did nothing wrong.
@arturocardona140
Жыл бұрын
Somehow this is monumental burden for bands or people to conceive. A thing can't just be a thing. It has to be everything for everyone or else you aren't being inclusive. Not that they (she) didn't have feminist standards to meet and enforce on her lyrics and standards to satiate a cultural standard as well. After all, no one with sufficient fame and fortune wants to be remembered for using the word 'whore' however agnostic or appropriate as it may be. I was hoping the video would would go for more about why and when the member were rotated out. Rather than propagandizing her justification that it should be compared against other male led band when it actuality each case is unique. If she just wants to be average among a few then claim that's what it takes to be good but if it's misogyny then make a claim that's what it takes to stay on top.
@cawayee
Жыл бұрын
I think you can be regretful of your actions despite them being amoral.
@joielain7839
Жыл бұрын
Hayley has expressed many times she has moved on from that mentality although she has done nothing wrong she doesn't want to compare herself to other woman no matter what extent or what purpose or motives. She was in a very toxic relationship for years with her ex husband where she was cheated on and off constantly and emotionally abused and lied to almost forced to have a child. Her moving away from the song doesn't mean the song was bad, it just means she's a different person now. Who she was almost 20 years ago isn't who she is now.
@spectreshot8536
Жыл бұрын
It's because she's turned into a feminist weirdo.
@JelloFish143
Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, she "stole" (allowed Chad to cheat on Sherri with herself) Chad from Sherri. She legit knew Chad was married to Sherri but didn't gaf. There are also TONS of rumors that Hayley cheated on Josh, and I personally don't doubt them.
@KayTutoriales
Жыл бұрын
ok but the girl doing Hayley’s quotes???? her voice sounds great and did such a good job at conveying the emotions
@christicat221b
Жыл бұрын
The voice sounds so familiar too.
@ClaudioKamoda
Жыл бұрын
It's probably an AI voice.
@KayTutoriales
Жыл бұрын
@@ClaudioKamoda nope, it’s Maggie Mae Fish she’s tagged in the description of the video
@niezyje8922
Жыл бұрын
thought that was her 😂
@defhoez449
Жыл бұрын
I'm a 51 yr old guy...I first heard of Paramore through a game called Rock Band, when they put the song "That's What You Get" on it. I used to think...WHO is that voice...my god! its amazing! I became a Paramore fan within a few plays of that track. Later, other Paramore songs would get added my Rock Band game when DLC would come along from the band...one of those songs... Misery Business What a GREAT song!! Maybe I'm just too old, but I don't see the problem with having "whore" in a song....like Hayley said "its a page from my diary" and its written by a literal teenager. Look...we've ALL said dumb things and did worse when we were teens...its time to let the song reflect that fact and move on. Hayley is all grown up now, but that doesn't mean she should allow her former teenage self to remain quiet when that young girl had so much to say to a world that was pissing her off....some of the best music ever written has come from that mindset.
@joyw4355
Жыл бұрын
50 and still love listening to them sometimes. I was Obsessed with them for quite awhile
@kashem425
Жыл бұрын
47 now, but back when rock band was a thing, I was on drums, and my 5 yo niece singing along to “That’s what you get”. Such a fun song.
@defhoez449
Жыл бұрын
@@kashem425 Yea...I hear ya! My daughter was 7 back then, and she loved singing it too!!
@juandoe2994
Жыл бұрын
Then you have bands like In This Moment who call out the misogyny with their song "Whore" which states "you're gonna love me for everything you hate me for" I haven't heard anyone complain about them
@TheNewRevolution
Жыл бұрын
I had the exact same experience. 😂 I'd never even heard of Paramore until I heard, "That's what you get." Then another game had "Misery Bussiness" on it. I spent many drunken Saturday nights listening to the girls take turns singing those songs. I really grew to like the songs. I readily admit I haven't heard any other Paramore songs or know that the song caused any controversy whatsoever. I think it's a little silly to me that people want to hold a teenage girl to an impossible standard while she simply expressed an emotion she had one particular day. All the emotions you have are valid, even if some are irrational, hurtful, or even harmful. They are valid because they are real. And someone out there is identifying with it. No one should be shamed or canceled for it. Especially by a bunch of woke hipocrits who are guilty of the same feelings. I'm glad she chose to play the song again in the end. Even if she claims to no longer identify with much of the song. It's sad to me that she would disassociate with the song. If you can't identify with your younger self, even if only to see how you got caught in a few traps, how are you gonna identify with anyone else? That's where we learn to empathize with others and experience real meaningful growth as human beings.
@JesterC88
Жыл бұрын
Misery Business is a banger. Never stopped listening to it. I'm glad they're back to playing it because I'm seeing them on tour in a few months.
@eulyc.959
Жыл бұрын
I agree, no one goes after panic at the disco, and I write sins not tragedies is still considered an emo classic. But they do go after Paramore for saying the same. I feel like it's the same with rap music. When male musicians sexualize women, no one really has a problem with it. But the moment there are artists like Nicky, Cardi, Megan, etc. That use their sexuality or sexualize men, suddenly everyone has a problem with it
@iliketrains3495
Жыл бұрын
That second point isn't true at all, rap as a whole is criticised and oversimplified for being about 'sex, drugs and money'. Also given Cardi used to seduce men and then drug and rob them, yeah I can see the problem with her in particular.
@Bruhlol656
Жыл бұрын
@spacemilk nah it happens
@aleccoinneachdreyer4216
Жыл бұрын
@spacemilk the people who go after those female rappers literally go after the entire rap genre. I've never seen someone who likes rap music judge any of those women, they applaud it if anything.
@CaliHime
Жыл бұрын
For me, Misery Business will ALWAYS be the song I sing along to so loudly that I have no voice left at the end.
@YJL186
Жыл бұрын
personally while i don’t enjoy the new stuff paramore releases, i understand why they changed their sound. their sound really just changed with their age and it’s completely understandable. paramore will always be one of my favorite bands. all we know is falling and riot are two of my favorite albums of all time.
@emilye6106
Жыл бұрын
Hi friend, check out their newest song The News, it feels so much like riot Paramore!
@YJL186
Жыл бұрын
@@emilye6106 just gave it a listen, and yeah i like it! it sounds like a matured version of their original sound. i would definitely listen to stuff similar to this.
@IgnitedxSoul
Жыл бұрын
There's something so powerful about their re-adoption of the song as an example of internalized misogny that they use as a tool rather than hide in shame.
@bmagada
Жыл бұрын
Jesus fuck thats a special comment.....
@GammaRingHunter
Жыл бұрын
@@bmagada probably a woman lol
@johngorny8306
Жыл бұрын
I'm in the business of misery Let's take it from the top She's got a body like an hourglass, it's ticking like a clock It's a matter of time before we all run out When I thought he was mine, she caught him by the mouth I waited eight long months, she finally set him free I told him I couldn't lie, he was the only one for me Two weeks and we had caught on fire She's got it out for me, but I wear the biggest smile Yea Misogrny.......
@m.s2912
Жыл бұрын
What I wouldn't give to have been sitting in a basement listening to Elliot Smith with Hayley Williams in my teens
@isabelhahn9095
Жыл бұрын
@ghost mall go listen to their new tunes. Doesn’t sound so ’chartyˋ anymore
@Philip_Taylor
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they sound so bland.
@m.s2912
Жыл бұрын
@ghost mall wouldn't have thought they had such influences, but there's always been something special about them. I don't think any band sounded quite like them during those emo years, and Hayley has so much charisma. I do prefer their later work though.
@carlzombie6722
Жыл бұрын
Me too homie
@Lunaticaceleste
Жыл бұрын
For real!!!
@MorwenWhyte
Жыл бұрын
A song is a song, a story is a story, and "Misery Business" was written by and about a young girl, and as long as the writer does not endorse it's meaning it doesn't have to be taken as apologetic or as trying to set some sort of example... like she said, if she just had a dick, I mean, I don't see that amount of energy wasted into Depeche Mode for "A Question of Time" for that matter.
@bmagada
Жыл бұрын
Bullshit. No one gives a fuck as much as they pretend to about that songs meaning. The only person who holds onto that is Hayley and because someone questioned it once because of the growing fad of shitting on male singers for making similar songs. Also Paramore fans and Depeche Mode fans are two different things and men hear it too, they just ignore it because you arent supposed to be dancing to make your critics feel better.
@ChannelHandler88
Жыл бұрын
Lol. It's the feminists in the first place trying to shame her for using the word whore - if she had a dick and used the word whore then the feminists wouldn't have cared? Your comment doesn't make any sense. Plus, Depeche Mode released that song 20 years before Misery Business came out in a time before armies of blue-haired Twitter SJWs; it's a totally false comparison. Teenage Hayley did nothing wrong in Misery Business and to even say "As long as she acknowledged what she did is wrong..." is a bizarre statement to put in a comment where you blame misogynists for shaming Hayley for using the word whore while simultaneously shaming her for using the word whore. Jeez.
@quartjarz
Жыл бұрын
Hayley was the only female singer I identified with in those days. I always say she and Patrick stump taught me how to sing ❤️
@m00shminki88
Жыл бұрын
Those are some GREAT teachers
@maplelatte3366
Жыл бұрын
All she does is screech.
@designereyebags
Жыл бұрын
folie a deux catches a lot of flack but i think it has some of patrick’s best vocal performances. i love when he gets into soul/blues bag lmao
@ryandangstack
Жыл бұрын
@@maplelatte3366 apologies, you suffer from weird ears
@gabe_s_videos
Жыл бұрын
Watching all this on-stage footage of aughts-era rock bands, I forgot how ATHLETIC they could be!! I can barely sing, play my instrument and keep my head up at the same time, these guys were doing freaking BACKFLIPS!!
@MrTomservo85
Жыл бұрын
I just saw Hail The Sun a couple months ago and Holy hell, their vocalist jumps off the kick drum and flies around the stage, and even plays drums for a few songs, all while doing great vocals!
@gabe_s_videos
Жыл бұрын
@@MrTomservo85 Billy Joe Armstrong was like that when I saw him in 2013. Running, jumping, singing AND playing guitar all at the same time, and not once did he lose breath or momentum (though unfortunately that may have had more to do with the fact that he was on cocaine at the time).
@raven_moonshine39
Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing stories about Sonny Moore (pre-skrillex) climbing the scaffolding during From First to Last shows while singing. I can't even imagine what that level of energy must feel like.
@ryandangstack
Жыл бұрын
@@raven_moonshine39 Adam Lazzara from Taking Back Sunday used to do the same thing, hang upside down from his legs above the stage while singing. They probably all were doing cocaine at the time, but it was dope.
@stalfithrildi5366
Жыл бұрын
I saw Dillinger Escape Plan end one gig with one guy leaping off a 15 foot amp stack, one guy hanging upside down from the light rig, and one guy kicking everything off the bar that ran along the side of the room. Happy days.
@jmckenzie962
Жыл бұрын
Hayley said that their upcoming album "This Is Why" is very influenced by Bloc Party (another band who a video of yours made me reappreciate) and that got me really excited. This band really said "oh, there's a pop-punk revival right now that we could very easily capitalize on on our next album? Fuck you, welcome to the post-punk revival... uh, revival".
@herondaless
Жыл бұрын
oh she said it? no wonder i heard bloc party the moment i played this is why, i instantly went "oh this is soo british indie rock", bloc party in particular
@divotslice
Жыл бұрын
The thing is with Paramore is that the music is timeless especially growing with the band. The music sound may have changed but the lyrics are still incredibly relatable and you can always feel that they are speaking directly to you. Even the fact that after laughter had a lot of upbeat and funky sound but the lyrics are incredibly dark. Also, I do want to speak on the fact Hayley has had thoughts about previous songs and had the gall to actually stand up for her beliefs as an artist and even take out their most popular song in order for herself to begin her own healing process. It’s character growth and I’m not sure how anyone can’t see that.
@burni988
Жыл бұрын
Stuff like that only makes me like Hayley more. It's so nice to see someone's personal journey alongside their musical journey. And you can tell she's really smart and thinks about stuff well through her decisions and solutions. The tutting to the crowd was so funny and it allows her to keep the sentiment for why she felt the need to remove the song in the first place. She has found a balance with it now.
@MimiBlackbird
Жыл бұрын
I so totally agree and relate to this comment ❤
@samanfersilyk
Жыл бұрын
hayley is a wonderful role model. i looked up to her so much when i was a young teenager. it's a shame she beats herself up so much about this song, she has clearly grown so much. also so glad zac is back in the band and taylor has stayed. they're an incredible trio and work so well together. love to see how taylor and zac's style has evolved.
@samanfersilyk
Жыл бұрын
@@charlieberry7562 the first line you referenced is mocking men, and the second like is followed up by “i refuse” lol
@sammantixgm
Жыл бұрын
There's an absolute beautiful energy to that video that came out where Hayley just goes "fuck it" and they play it. There's this knowledge that the internet is semi-eternal, and everywhere. That she doesn't need to explain this time, because the system shock will hit everyone online. And then, a few shows later, she can give the speech. And everyone who cares will see that.
@Slav_Stiibun
Жыл бұрын
As a fan of their old school stuff, I will always approve of misery business. I was in a dark place and their music allowed me to feel and process all my emotions which included anger when my crushes didn't work out and when my bisexuality was a problem to many in my grade that I kept it to myself.
@_bestcatdad
Жыл бұрын
I saw them at ACL this year and can say that most people only knew their newer songs, BUT everyone went crazy with Misery Business. It reminded me of being at Warped in 2009. It was amazing.
@xenobiotic.
Жыл бұрын
everytime i listen to misery business, it always makes me feel so...good
@islab2458
Жыл бұрын
I was 22-ish when After Laughter dropped, and I professed against it so hard. Riot! and BNE were everything to me, and I hated the deviation in sound, lyrics I thought to be on the nose and lacking in word-play, and heavy, emo dynamics. But then, at 26, I listened to "26" again, and cried. I cried so fucking hard. Though I knew she was writing to her past self, it was like she was talking to me about how cynical I'd become, and not just about Paramore's music, but about life in general, my belief about who I was and who I "should" be. I'd been strangling myself into a paralysis that's barely let up even to this day. "26" was the gateway into After Laughter, and now the only reason I can't listen to it is because it's still so raw, still hits way too close to home for me. I can't really describe how much I've always loved this band more than any other. When I daydreamed about being in a band, it was Paramore I saw in my head, who I looked to for guidance. I had hair like Hayley off and on for years. I tried so hard to sing like her. I know every word to their first three albums. Her solo work is phenomenal, and the band's new single is fantastic. This video is everything. Even though they're not a British band, I'm so glad you made it. Thank you.
@ViolentMoth
Жыл бұрын
Oh man I relate to the point about 26. After Laughter came out when I was 26 and that song still gives me chills every time I hear it.
@Kuroji07
Жыл бұрын
Same. I didn't like it at all. Then it clicked all of a sudden.
@awesomeoberks
Жыл бұрын
Do you not find that with a whole heap of bands newer albums? It took me easily 10 years to get past anything alexisonfire did after watch out or causal dressed by funeral for a friend. In fact I was so against anything FFAF after that album it’s taken until this year to really get into the newer albums and for the most part they are rad, my loss.
@FluffyBunniesOnFire
Жыл бұрын
After Laughter is my favorite Paramore period.
@miglek9613
Жыл бұрын
I personally got temporarily turned off from Paramore when I was 11, at the start of my horrific emo years, completely obsessed with the older music by the band, and instead of teenage angst saw self titled get released. However, after hearing This is why when it was first released I started rediscovering their past two albums and grew to genuinely love them. However, for me it was Fake Happy and Rose Coloured Boy that really drew me into After Laughter rather than 26
@HPMichalke
Жыл бұрын
The depth of research and level of cross referencing Paramore's music to the surrounding pop culture is supreme! Thanks for actually sampling all references into this piece and not just mentioning them. That makes it so much comprehensible. And the framing of Haley Williams specific young and female perspective on that music is so insightful and much needed in that genre. You can see how much work went into every bit of this piece. Chapeau!
@milaces1323
Жыл бұрын
I think one day i'm going to be a 90 year-old in a nursing home, some kind soul will put on Misery Business and my body and mind will catch on fire just as it did in 2007 when i heard it for the first time.
@megannapier9269
Жыл бұрын
The Only Exception is one of the few songs that will bring me instantly to tears and made me feel peace in my soul. Paramore, in all their glorious messiness, will forever have a place in my heart.
@marcella8137
10 ай бұрын
I'm baffled you didn't mention the Misery Business / Good 4 U mashup someone did, it sounds seamless and the songs complement each other perfectly
@freke80
Жыл бұрын
Your music docus always leave me with a wonderfully wistful nostalgic feeling, even if I didn't grow up with the music you talk about. I don't know what it is about them, but you hit the mark everytime. Thanks for all the hard work and passion you put into these videos!
@tomwhite916
Жыл бұрын
This has just made me cry, but in a good way. As a 43 Yr old I missed out on emo but paramore were such a thing for me and this has really pulled a lot of emotions out
@Idolikethis
Жыл бұрын
Lol 😆 what? Emo didn't begin with these knuckleheads. Emo has been available for literally decades. Since the mid 80s. Are you just speaking on the bubble gum emo era of 05' -2010s?
@BowserMilk
Жыл бұрын
Literally crying watching this video. I didn't realize I grew up with Paramore for so many years. I love Misery Business because I grew up with it listening to it on repeat because I couldn't buy a lot of songs on my iPod at the time. We stan Paramore.
@Lildeadthing420
Жыл бұрын
so cool to hear maggie narrate hayley's interviews!!!
@Lildeadthing420
Жыл бұрын
@@ghostmall2421 Maggie Mae Fish is an amazing youtuber please do yourself a favor and check out her channel!!
@austintrousdale2397
Жыл бұрын
@@ghostmall2421 She’s a KZitemr who brings a very interesting and eloquent perspective to her content. Maggie was an inspired choice to narrate Hayley’s quotes. Good get, as they say in the biz 😁
@SarahCharles92
Жыл бұрын
Misery Business is a great song, for sure. And it certainly was Paramore's most popular song (alongside Decode, because of its relationship with Twilight). Even so, I think I enjoyed All We Know, Pressure, Emergency, and Ignorance more from that same 2005-2009 era. In fact, it is the slightly heavier songs like Ignorance that helped mold me into enjoying so much of the female-fronted heavier rock that I ended up enjoying later on, such as Marmozets (even from as early as their Passive Aggressive EP), New Years Day, Red Handed Denial, etc.
@ViolentMoth
Жыл бұрын
Marmozets are such a sick band, and incredible live, too! I miss them big time
@SarahCharles92
Жыл бұрын
@@ViolentMoth you will be glad to know that Marmozets announced earlier this year that they are making music again. They only took a break because Becca (the lead singer) had a baby in 2019. Also, you are right, they are so good live. Seeing Marmozets live in 2012 blew me away and I ended up seeing them live about 10 times in the following 18-24 months until they released the Weird and Wonderful Marmozets
@liammiddleton3064
Жыл бұрын
They took another Bands sound to make Ignorance band is called Billy talent
@SarahCharles92
Жыл бұрын
@@liammiddleton3064 I am aware of Billy Talent - in fact, I saw them live in 2007, 2008, 2012, and Afraid of Heights was one of my albums of the year for 2016. There is nothing wrong with being influenced by other bands. Bands as big as The Beatles were influenced by Buddy Holly and Elvis, Metallica were influenced by Iron Maiden and Motorhead... and bands like Paramore were likely influenced by Billy Talent among others. Similarly, since then, Marmozets were influenced by Blackfish, Red Handed Denial were influenced by Protest The Hero. What makes something creative is being able to take what you like about others' art and make it into something new, in your own style.
@liammiddleton3064
Жыл бұрын
@@SarahCharles92 dont know
@StefanHayden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for an amazing video. This was perfect and I loved every minute of it.
@thomasdegroat6039
Жыл бұрын
I think Hayley Williams is one of the smartest artists in the music industry. She is constantly rethinking, recontextualizing, and critiquing her past art. I don't know of any other artist who is this intimate with their past self and their work. Most people just see it as the past and ignore it, but Williams actively interacts with it. There's a reason why Paramore is one of only two pop punk bands that still maintain their popularity.
@conedx
7 ай бұрын
jesus. listen to THE POP when they play that song in 2022. never should have stopped playing it.
@MultiAmadeuss1
Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know that people thought of this song as problematic. Wtf, it's written by a teenage girl, what do you expect. It's still a banger, tho
@kurtramos59
Жыл бұрын
Are we not gonna talk about how this whole video was so well written. Heck to call it "well-written" is an understatement. This is my first video from this channel and you just gained a new sub. Keep it up. Love Paramore and how they've grown.
@KamalianCiranoush
Жыл бұрын
I got into Paramore so much later in life, way after the release of Misery Business and not too long before they released Hard Times. I felt bad for not giving them a chance earlier, instead scoffing and dismissing them because so many of my peers were obsessed with them. I regret being such a snooty teen, bc it's not like my music taste back then was something to write about 🤣 but you live and you learn.
@zabnorg
Жыл бұрын
I love this channel so much! It's great to hear the history of these iconic songs and get some background on the bands involved and the context of the music scene at the time they were recorded. Hayley is probably one of the most inspiring women in popular music (I won't call that one, since I'm not a girl), especially since she wrote her own songs "from the heart." Everyone was getting sick of the manufactured solo girl acts that followed the manufactured boy band acts coming out of the '90s. I always respected Hayley for never tarting up or sleezing out. Not that I don't enjoy myself a little Lords of Acid or Lady Gaga; they were doing their thing and didn't change because of outside pressure and neither did Hayley. And I'm not even a fan, I probably know like 3 Paramore songs and have enjoyed Hayley's side projects. My point is the girl has integrity and it shows in her artistry. Respect.
@courtneycooper4905
Жыл бұрын
I like so many other unappreciated Paramore songs that to me, this isn’t even in my top 5 songs. I appreciate it because it came out at a time I felt misunderstood and could relate being a teenager but I feel like Paramore shouldn’t be defined by one song when their overall discography is amazing.
@bluz1864
Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Some of their best songs (at least in my opinion) weren't even officially released in full albums. :)
@Nihoolious
Жыл бұрын
That wasn't Hayley who was voicing those lines? It sounds just like her, she did a great job!
@donglerongle3109
Жыл бұрын
wow. the whole time i was wondering where he got the sound bites of her saying that stuff.
@Hjertekaare
Жыл бұрын
This video is excellent. I love the way that the speaker is not taking sides, but instead looking at the topic from different angles. Most videos/documentaries about music does not say anything that could offend the fans, and thereby often not say anything at all. This is the standard that other in the same business should be aiming for.
@Supermunch2000
Жыл бұрын
Maggie Mae Fish's voice is synonymous with insight and deep thoughts, thanks for having her!
@Prior2Popular
Жыл бұрын
22:31 THIS. I swear any female who belts over distorted guitars gets told they “sound like Hayley Williams” even if the tone, style, and affectation of her voice is entirely different! I mean, who wouldn’t want to sound like Hayley, she’s great! Buuuuut this is not done to men.
@althejazzman
Жыл бұрын
I learnt so much in this video. I was never that into the 00's emo scene as I was already in my 20's by then, but I think I would like so many of their influences cited early on in this video. Not knowing anything about Hayley Williams it's very refreshing to see someone who was able to be so rational and not a massive diva, especially at such a young age. Perhaps Taylor Momsen continues this attitude?
@InkAndPoet
Жыл бұрын
Hearing that the press was blaming Hayley for the inner-band turmoil reminds me of how shitty the media was to women back then. And I hate it and hate that I was subconsciously part of it.
@haley2684
Жыл бұрын
It makes me sad to see that Hayley felt that way about the song, but I understand why. It must've felt heavy when people were questioning her faith at the time. I just see the songs that come out now from other artists, and I give Paramore so many props for dealing with some of the bs they dealt with before so others don't have to. Misery Business is so iconic and broke so many barriers back then for future songs. I also had no idea Hayley had left for a point in time, Taylor York is amazing for sticking it through!
@tinystar3010
2 ай бұрын
It's a shame how our society has progressed. We want to erase, cancel, forget our past instead of accepting our mistakes. Instead of looking back with regret, she should look back with comfort and understanding, "look how far we've come, how far we've grown". If we keep trying to rewrite history, hide our mistakes, the future generations will continue making the same mistakes and no longer be able to review the past and see, it's okay to feel, it's okay to make mistakes, it's okay to grow. I'm a few years older than Hayley, yet I look back and see Misery Business as the peak Paramore. Yeah it was a teenagers song, but it was raw, it was real, and even hearing now, I can go back in time, reflect on my high school experiences, all the bad, and the song reminds me of exactly how I felt then, but proud that I got through it, and understand better how to act now. Cancel culture needs to stop. Acceptance culture and learn from our past needs to begin. Still a phenomenal song to me.
@michelcomenta
Жыл бұрын
this video is so well done, I really appreciate the effort put into it, as you explain from the beginning and all the songs from the mentioned artists playing so that we can get to know each one of them (btw I know almost everyone besides Paramore, i'm such an emo). Good job! I am absolutely subscribing now.🖤
@friedzombie4
Жыл бұрын
As the inspiration for her song said: "I'm in the business of misery, and business is good." It seems trite to complain about lyrics when we have a war in Europe and Haiti consuming itself whole in 2022. Paramore comforted a generation including me. Let's cherish that and all the blemishes that come with it.
@UdoADHD
Жыл бұрын
I had no idea she felt this way because I felt THE EXACT SAME WAY when I heard the song. It made me so uncomfortable and I wouldn’t say the word for the same reasons. But eventually I said screw it, the song is a banger. I told myself that’s how you felt as a young teen who didn’t know better. Warms my heart to have learned the journey she had with the song. I relate to her more and more as we get older. ❤
@kaynesantor8136
Жыл бұрын
Her face in the thumbnail is priceless. Kinda says it all, doesnt it? Nice work TT.
@SplatterInker
Жыл бұрын
I think Misery Business is just so raw. It's 100% how we think and feel as teenage girls. Is it BS? Yes. Do we grow up and realise we're being dicks? Yes. Does it stil encapsulate all the frustration we feel at having to compete with other women inder patriarchy? Hell YES. That's why it's a classic. That's why the language actually is spot on. And genuine. Instead of just gross. Did Hayley need to publicly go through that process of questioning it? I think it says a lot of positive things about her that she did. Instead of double downing on it and getting defensive she thought about why she said what she said and was able to have more compassion for others. More than you can say for the singers on Blurred Lines (sorry Pharrell but that's a negative on your record from me).
@joielain7839
Жыл бұрын
I think the video explains many details, but could have been more in depth as to why hayley specifically wasn't comfortable with this song anymore. She has went in details multiple times suring her solo career as to why the song doesn't really please her personally anymore. "Dead horse" by her explained properly how it was in her eyes now an hypocritical song, "Roses/Lotus/Iris" itself should be a tell tale as to why she did not wish to associate with this old mentality of ours from when she wrote it. She grew up from it and she didn't even agree with the song to begin with. She didn't like the idea to "slut shame" or compare herself to others especially not other woman. She was cheated on multiple time during her mariage and has mentioned being emotionally abused. Not singing the song anymore isn't just a sign of moving on, it's a waving flag about how tired they are of this mentality. Josh isn't even in the band anymore either, on top of his public displays of homophobia (literally comparing homosexuality to predators...) it should say a lot more about the reason the song isn't sung anymore.
@gabe_s_videos
Жыл бұрын
I don't think I even listened to Misery Business until it was controversial. That alone is a good reason why I never thought much of it (I just want to like something without having to defend it...). "Pressure" will always be my favorite of theirs, but I LOVE their new song!
@cascadesouthernmodeltrains7547
Жыл бұрын
Misery business is the song that introduced me to Paramore. Still one of my favorites.
@manning0
Жыл бұрын
The line "I waited 8 long months" still sticks with me to this day. Not only does 8 months fly by once you're a 30 something year old parent but relationships back then could be over in 8 months, and what a rollercoaster that 8 months could be and it would seem "long".
@CuteAnimalVideos2580
Жыл бұрын
8 months without someone you love is very long 8 months in an abusive household is long 8 months of doing what you love is short it's all relative, doesnt matter how old you are
@layeralone
Жыл бұрын
Maybe you're not gonna read this, but I've spent the last month (almost every day) seeing your videos. I absolutely adore them and I think they give (among other things like my family and friends and some books that I have read recently) the strength to keep up with my daily life. After a hard day working at the library I am part of, seeing this videos and searching for the music you talk about has helped me a lot. Thank you so much. Happy new year and greeting from México!
@smallcitydreams307
Жыл бұрын
Been super into paramore since day one I feelnlike ive grown with the band. They sound great playing live too. Overall I love the band the members even have solo careers that I love too. Over all they are all very talented.
@aaronhughes6958
Жыл бұрын
I definitely did not expect to sit through this whole video. Well done.
@RexxCollects
Жыл бұрын
I listen to metal 90% of the time and this is one of the bands I still dig. I was in my 20s when that shit came out and it is a solid song and always will be.
@rosesaredying0
Жыл бұрын
My highschool to college life basically revolved around Paramore's first few albums and it was fun playing their set whenever we join a battle of the bands be it small scale or average scale. how I miss those good old days. I can say that I'm still in love with this band despite of changes happened for 2 decades. I really hope they comeback here in the Philippines for the 3rd time. I have plenty enough of funds for VIP seat now unlike when I was young and broke way back then. hahaahha EDIT: btw, this video deserves a million views imho
@brianmayabella5992
Жыл бұрын
I understand a lot of people run behind their past. What they dont realize is that the past is part of them, no matter how you hide it, there are people always keep reminding you of your past. But it doesnt mean should you be ashamed. By embracing it, thats what who we are. Never turn back of your past, whether you a hypocrite, a malicious, misogynist or whatever bad words that describe you. That past is real, no matter how ugly it is, but be glad you did them. Along the way, you grow, without regret.
@funkmon
Жыл бұрын
To be fair to the press, Hayley and the boys in 2005 and 2006 did play up to the Avril animosity and I remember a couple tour videos they did calling her out. But they were just kids. It's okay
@rustyrobots426
Жыл бұрын
As a nearly 32yo dude I love Paramore. Their new stuff is really feeling like a return to form too.
@heartiko2681
Жыл бұрын
Aren't 32 year old dudes exactly who you would expect to make up a huge section of Paramore fans since that's the average age of us, their fans, now 😂
@rustyrobots426
Жыл бұрын
@@heartiko2681 yeah you might be right 😂
@proboffensive
Жыл бұрын
the person voicing hayley in this video did an awesome job
@airwrecktion
Жыл бұрын
All this time I thought it was Haley!
@NorthEndLeader
Жыл бұрын
Riot! and Misery Business are Paramore's greatest work. I'm glad they came around to it again and Hailey managed to find a better reading of her lyrics.
@j777
Жыл бұрын
She's authentic, and ironically that's the only reason she suffered from the lyrics
@StrumVogel
Жыл бұрын
I love that “Pressure” so much.
@Skipntosh
Жыл бұрын
Love this band for so long.
@traviszick
Жыл бұрын
The resurgence of paramore is important. Another great video..
@mostlycusimbored
Жыл бұрын
That part of the song was one I didn't even catch. Never took it as an anti feminist song. But if that's how she meant it, i guess. For me it's still a song about the pain of someone sabotaging your relationship, the insecurities it inspired. And of course that teenage sense of feeling special when you got that person with you again. Petty AF but it was relatable for teenage me
@beans2222
Жыл бұрын
This was a video I put on to play in the background while I did other things but I found myself mesmerized! Thanks for adding other song clips for context and thanks for the great video!
@carlosvalenzuelasan
Жыл бұрын
First, this videos are sick. Second, i really like the song and the word actually fits the narrative of a 14 year old girl angry because somebody stole her Romeo. Sometimes music is just about telling stories that people can relate regardless of the author's point of view.
@keepingcompany8196
Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I have 2 sisters that are older than me. One of my sisters is a huge Paramore fan, and as a kid I didn't care for them all that much. When their self titled album came out I remember she was so excited she listened to that album more times than I could imagine. Then the monumentour came along, and she got a ticket to take me with her. I'll never forget how fun it was to watch Paramore play, and the way the crowd moved to those tracks was a thing of beauty. To see where Paramore has gone with their music since then has been nothing short of amazing, and they've been my favorite band pretty much since that concert lol
@nicholastoniolli5935
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I didn't get thr chance to grow up with Paramore, since I was too young at the time. But now, they're my favorite band without a doubt. It comes as a surprise for me that even back then, people complained about this one word. I can see it happening more often today due to this damned cancel culture, but it really shouldn't be something to work over unnecessarily. She wrote the song as a teenager for Christ's sake, everybody knows the feeling, let the fans enjoy the song that define pop-punk!
@SydneyVengeanceTV
Жыл бұрын
misery business is adolescences as a whole. as a teenager when this song came out i def did and said things just as stupid as hating a woman for wanting the same dude i did. in retrospect we were hormonal teenagers that had a playboy bunny reality show on tv. growing up in the early 2000's was weird man.
@joshuac4087
Жыл бұрын
I’ll never retire any paramore songs except maybe the only exception but not live acoustic versions where Hayley gets creative with the melody
@thevirtualtraveler
Жыл бұрын
As a GenXer, I've always felt that while I love Paramour, I've never known them as well as I should. So, Thank you so much for this. Also, thank you for continuing to legitimize the ladies of Rock. They may be the minority, but music wouldn't be what it is without them.
@brandonpage7087
Жыл бұрын
Wow, now I feel old! Seeing in this video, how many current artists have been inspired by Paramore, & for me, Paramore was one of the last bands that I actually cared about, before I checked out of popular music, back in the early 2010s. My opinion of them hasn't changed, they are still awesome, & personally, I love misery business!
@daxsonwebb8982
11 ай бұрын
I always thought “Misery Business” was so impactful, I blast it all the time, a girl wanted a guy, the guy was hurt, she came and saved him, now she’s screaming from the rooftop about how much she’s happy about it. You’d brag too if you were able to be with your crush!
@jmcmondego
Жыл бұрын
They are growing, and growing, and growing. Paramore is definitely the best emo pop band.
@snoozyq9576
Жыл бұрын
In your opinion. There's nothing definite about it
@ErichWK
5 ай бұрын
How are you so good at making these mini Bios about bands and songs and genres. Whatever you are payed, it needs to be tripled.
@edburton6801
Жыл бұрын
This is my first time watchiing one of your videos. When it was done, I subbeed immediately. Great work! Thank you!
@tueferbenz7492
Жыл бұрын
It's like what a more mature Beastie Boys thought about their old sexist songs like Girls and stage gimmicks like go-go dancers. Riot and Falling are unimpeachable and have stood the test of time.
@padthai2024
Жыл бұрын
I was expecting this to be like a shallow drama channel narrative but it turned out to be an in depth analysis. Great video.
@brettcooper3893
Жыл бұрын
To say Paramore's influence is most visible today is overstating the matter, and I'm a Paramore fan. But out of the 3 bands you first cite in the video, MCR is the most influential and legendary, by a country mile.
@SuperNerd528
Жыл бұрын
I think MCR is the iconic emo band. But paramore has been consistent through out the years as they’ve been actively releasing music. MCR was hiatus for over 5 years and still hasn’t put out a new album
@ef.1411
Жыл бұрын
MCR had more influence musically. Paramore had more influence culturally and on the industry. To me, they're A1 and A2.
@locsoluv94
Жыл бұрын
I like to think that "Good for You" is basically "Misery Business" from the other girl's perspective.
@paulettejordan8505
Жыл бұрын
Regardless of what people think, Misery Business is a great song and Paramore is a talented band. ❤️
@austintrousdale2397
Жыл бұрын
Which people? Snooty music critics? Boomers convinced that no good music was made after like 1984?
@snoozyq9576
Жыл бұрын
You can't really claim that despite what they may think your taste is objectively actually better. It doesn't work like that
@stevenbutler6089
Жыл бұрын
Is anyone really interpreting the use of the word whore in this song as a means to make it okay to call someone this? The song is about a pissed off kid and in that anger, calls someone a whore. It isn't that hard to understand.
@TooSmalley
Жыл бұрын
God, I can imagine being expected to play a song you wrote when you were 17-18 for the next 15 years. Thats got to be a little annoying.
@snoozyq9576
Жыл бұрын
Every band that is fortunate enough to make it big goes through this. Some are grateful to have the chance to. Some complain.
@gioiacolli3407
Жыл бұрын
i lost count of how many times i listened at this song and didn't knew a thing about the controversy. good video!
@Ofecks
Жыл бұрын
Cool to see Failure get a mention. They (and their magnum opus Fantastic Planet) are one of my favorites. Paramore covered the song clipped (Stuck On You) on a tribute compilation. I don't really care for that rendition, probably due to the emo style being rather sparse compared to the shoegaze-adjascent original. Like it was missing a few instrument tracks. But that's ok, because it's always nice to know other people out there appreciate Failure's incredible work. FWIW, Paramore was the only well-known band on that compilation.
@JazzyGaming
Жыл бұрын
Ive always seen it as cheeky and not offensive. I grew up when the song was popular too and I still love Paramore to this day. I wasn't obsessed with them or anything but I always respected her for a lot of the things you discussed. Being a female in a 99.9% male dominated genre must've been really tough on her and especially with her being so young. Like she said, its just a word and there are plenty of songs out there that are popular and have said much worse.
@rickjay637
Жыл бұрын
It’s just a song it’s just a word. U can’t let words like that hold that much power.
@eduardblackbeard3913
Жыл бұрын
Didn't know they were a Christian band, respect for bringing the song back.
@baburnit
Жыл бұрын
Is that Maggie Mae Fish reading Hayley’s interviews?
@benfairbank1
Жыл бұрын
yup, credits her at the end of the video
@baburnit
Жыл бұрын
@@benfairbank1 I didn’t watch the credits, but I looked in the description… thanks man
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