Kid died in my platoon during my cycle at Parris. Wasn’t the smartest but he could PT. A bunch of us got sick with pneumonia early on and really didn’t recover throughout. Hit him really hard especially. He got slower and weaker as time went on. Drill instructors destroyed this kid every chance they got. Practically lived on the quarter deck and in the sand pit. Night before our hump back for warriors breakfast upon completion of the crucible. We were all sleeping in the field. Drill instructors woke us up but he didn’t. He was half way out of his bag like he tried crawling out. Drill instructors quickly starting yelling his name and went into kill mode. Then realized he was cold and stiff. Entire battalion was made to face the tree line while he was removed. Was a quiet hump back. Didn’t get warriors breakfast. Instead NCIS came and interviewed our drill hat and the kill hats. We were told we’d all be told the finds after we got to our units. Nothing. Kid got a short blurb during graduation. First death amongst many during those next few years over in that shit hole called Iraq.
@av8ionUSMC
Жыл бұрын
Very sad story. Drill instructors get so fixated on their jobs that they frequently lose all feeling or connection to the fact something could be seriously wrong with someone. Having been a Marine, boot camp in the late 90's, I can picture what you described vividly.
@Hackspear214
Жыл бұрын
When did this happen? Platoon #?
@bendavis8056
Жыл бұрын
November 2004 plt 2105. 2nd battalion.
@bendavis8056
Жыл бұрын
@@Hackspear214 November 2004 2105
@rosahrod
Жыл бұрын
😢 I shed a tear to this. My son is a Marine and even though you guys are trained to be rough and tough you are still mommas babies❤️
@LA_Commander
10 ай бұрын
If you have never been a commanding officer of a unit or skipper of a ship, you may not know how it's like to be in their shoes. But whenever anything goes wrong, anything, even if it isn't your fault, it's ALWAYS your fault. Sometimes, a commander is relieved because he is the "fall guy". I'm not saying that is what happened here, but I have seen it before, many times.
@RobertL.JonesJr-hz8vl
10 ай бұрын
Heck while with the 5th Marines at Camp Margareta our Regt. CO died of an Heart Attack on a force march in 1977 of 5 miles. He was a marathon runner who not two weeks before completed the Marine Corps Marathon in DC.
@LA_Commander
10 ай бұрын
@@RobertL.JonesJr-hz8vl Just 5 miles? That's a very short march. Something doesn't sound right. He must have had some other medical issues that weren't known about or something.
@RobertL.JonesJr-hz8vl
10 ай бұрын
@@LA_Commander Its possible but our march was to combat town which was only 5 miles away from 33 area Margarita on MCB Camp Pendleton behind the airfield.
@Marvin-r9h
10 ай бұрын
I, went in in 79, when Iran had are hostages. We began boot camp with 75 recruits in 2wks. we had 45. The corps weeds out the weak in mind in body it's tragic but that's why we're the few the proud
@alsson3137
9 ай бұрын
12/79 plt 1003 here @@Marvin-r9h
@The_SemperFiGuy
Жыл бұрын
I'm a 1967 graduate from the 1st Recruit Training Battalion, Platoon 1032. When we went in, we went in with our eyes open. No expectation of being coddled. Watching this story and listening to the individual speak towards the end makes me fear that the USMC may be moving to the "Woke Side". If that 's the case, then this Nation is in deep trouble. It's very sad to learn that some Recruits died, but that is an unintended consequence of becoming the best of the best. God Bless those recruits, and equally as important, God Bless the United States Marine Corps. Don't change it, embrace the suck !
@rossbabcock3790
Жыл бұрын
I'm a 1977 grad from SD. You hit the nail on the head. Us old heads have to keep the faith. Semper Fi!
@The_SemperFiGuy
Жыл бұрын
Hoorah Devil Dog !!!
@itchitrigger1
Жыл бұрын
I'm 1979, 1st Recruit Training Battalion, Platoon 1014.
@The_SemperFiGuy
Жыл бұрын
I was at Parris Island in 2018 for my Grandson's graduation. 4 generation in the USMC. Anyway, all of the wooden barracks in 1st Battalion now look like the 3rd Battalion barracks from back then. All brick. There is one wooden building left. I don't know if they did that to preserve a bit of nostalgia, but it did bring back memories. In any event, thanks for your service and a hearty Hoorah Devildog !
@Hackspear214
Жыл бұрын
*woke*, I get so tired of people complaining about something made up that they don’t understand.
@BartimasMaximus1
Жыл бұрын
If it was easy, everyone would do it. Semper Fi Marines, don't let them pussify the Marines too. Those who die in training, should not be pitied and treated like victims, they should be honored for even trying. Don't belittle their sacrifice. They obviously wanted to be there. So they died doing something they liked and wanted. That's more than most people get. Condolences to the family. My only question is...did this recruit get the jab? If so that would explain a lot. Oh, and nobody wanders off during training. They do sometimes sneak off to take unauthorized breaks. That coupled with the heat, vigorous physical training, an unknown medical condition, and the attitude that you are slick and smarter than the average bear. You end up with the perfect storm, that is mostly your fault. I bet where ever they found him, it was a pretty good hiding spot. I would also bet, that if you talked to his fellow recruits, this was not the first time he "wandered off." Had he not "wandered off" and simply stayed where he was supposed to be, then fell out in training, he would have been rescued and would be alive today. So now, I guess it's time to scapegoat and sacrifice someone, so let's get the old timers who are a thorn in the ass of our new found agenda of ruining the Marines one recruit at a time. God help us all, if these new generations are what we have to rely on to ever defend this country from a real threat. They'll be too busy arguing over which bathroom to use or what make-up goes best with camouflage. Well, we will probably never need the military anyway, because with the criminals in charge of our country right now, we will be conquered without an enemy ever having to fire a shot. Hope everyone can speak mandarin, or has sun block 10k spf. I guess it will be up to all of us old timers, vets and patriotic civilians to be ready to step up and defend the country again, when needed. All while the military becomes glorified fat camps and safe spaces for the weirdos, women in combat rolls, sjw's, and alphabet people, all paid for with our tax dollars, and the blood sweat and tears of all who sacrificed to keep our country safe, for the last 247 years. Great job America, glad to see you have your priorities straight. The whole damn program has become a goddamn joke that isn't funny. Our forefathers are probably rolling over in their graves, hell they are probably trying to dig themselves out of their graves right now, so they can straighten this shit out, seeing how we appear to be incapable of doing it ourselves.
@deepthinker999
11 ай бұрын
Well Said & Crystal Clear.
@johnranallo424
Жыл бұрын
Stay tough Marine Corps. If anything, get tougher- NEVER GO WOKE!!! So sorry for the recruits that died. Parris Island Nov. '76. 0811 '76-'80 Sgt.
@chuniquepaceno470
Жыл бұрын
Sorry to break the news, but the military has always been woke. They were the first federal "agency" to integrate the races (back in the 1940s), they allow women in combat roles and are now accepting of the LGBTQ community. We had racial-awareness training in the early '70s to assist us in understanding other perspectives (that was when I learned that the people who brought us 'Superfly' all thought white people dressed funny). It's our strength, as evidenced by the easy defeat of that very-UNWOKE Russian Army at the hands of the woke Ukrainian forces (which includes an LGBTQ battalion called 'the unicorns,' complete with arm patches of the fabled animal).
@RobertDegott
Жыл бұрын
We're you with Bravo 1/10?
@augurcybernaut4785
Жыл бұрын
You can shut all the way up.
@Hackspear214
Жыл бұрын
*woke*, I get so tired of people complaining about something made up that they don’t understand.
@eq1373
Жыл бұрын
@@Hackspear214liberals made up the word
@putnamcountycrimeanalysiswandr
11 ай бұрын
Many recruits hide the fact they're on the run from the law. Why is it not possible that many are hiding medical conditions? --Former Paratrooper
@Buffeddust
Жыл бұрын
In the past, for various reasons and across all branches Commanders and Senior enlisted advisors have been relieved for deaths and misconduct within their ranks. Sometimes I wonder if those leaders should be held accountable being so far removed from the incident. What I do know is that if there is no change to the reg, policy, POI, etc. then the removals are meaningless. I don't believe the DIs should be micromanaged in the future, but the IG, better come up with something. Doesn't help recruiting much either.
@scallen3841
Жыл бұрын
Exactly yet so many defend the Marines it's sad
@jorgemontoya8844
10 ай бұрын
We have an abnormally high number of high school and college football players dieing of cardiac arrest all over the U.S. To think that this is not going to happen at the Marine Corps Training Command is ludicrous.
@tenbroeck1958
9 ай бұрын
I remember a Private dying during Basic Training at Ft Benning on the Summer of 1997, in my training cycle. I remember him passing out. Very sad.
@Stanly-t4m
2 ай бұрын
It's called the Marine Corps for a reason. Not the Boy Scouts. It's not for everyone but it was for me.
@jackcarlin942
9 ай бұрын
Are the recruits being honest when they join,i e. Medical history ? There seems to also be a a shot that has caused controversy. Blame the Skipper though, right?
@hvygns15
9 ай бұрын
I don't know what happened here, but I know one thing, being "too hard" is not a problem that the Marine Corps is facing in basic training right now. Standards are being lowered, and drone instructors are being neutered. I would be very interested in what happened to these five recruits over the last few years.
@deecee9735
Жыл бұрын
I went to boot camp , 6-18-72 , yeah it was hot , hard and they were even harder, the DI’s . But after just a few ,weeks they got us to where they wanted us to be ! None of this was easy , one had to really want to become a marine ! And I can’t think of even one death , during my time there . And I saw , a few guys try and do harmful things to themselves , just to get out , and be with their , mommies , but people as a whole were not so soft as they are today ! I was just 5’7” and weighed 125 lbs . kinda a farm kid , but I gained 20 lbs. in boot and I could still fit in the jeans I wore down there . But thanks to the modern, diet kids just , aren’t as fit as they were back then , way too many fat bodies today , soft , and mentally ,they are not a tuff , like back then , too many video games , cell phones and junk like that , soft squishy butts . Our armed forces , aren’t as bad as they used to be , imho ! And as far as pushing young men hard , that’s what makes the marines , do the things they do , being strong in body , is only but a third of the training ! I am 69 years old to day , and I thank GOD , for the marine corp ,and all the drill instructors , who trained me , if I knew were they lived today , shit , I would mow their , fuckin yard ! ❤! Because , not to be a kiss as , but out of respect , and RESPECT ! 🫡🫡🫡
@stevedolan5065
Жыл бұрын
I graduated MCRD San Diego in 1966…I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. My Drill Instructors are still heroes to me today.
@markadkins9290
Жыл бұрын
NO DOUBT!!! SEMPER FI MY BROTHERS!!! 😎🇺🇸
@billybritt9791
Жыл бұрын
Woman in the Marines?
@markadkins9290
Жыл бұрын
@@billybritt9791 I guess I seen two when I went to Hawaii, we used to say wms were living proof Marines make men out of anything
@peteyspaletas2023
11 ай бұрын
"If you have a son in boot camp in the Navy or Air Force,write to them. If you have a son in marine corps boot camp,pray for them".- Walter Winchell.
@thomasryan2679
10 ай бұрын
Sometimes you should shut up instead of quoting others.
@thefobiddenbookshelf7560
9 ай бұрын
Write and pray too.
@waski672
9 ай бұрын
Love the history of this. It stands true even today. I went thru boot camp. I was single no girlfriend so I didn’t receive nothing but one letter from a friend back home. He was a bit older than me and was an army vet. On my birthday he sent me a letter w HBD on it and FTN written many times on the envelope. It was a great joke but the letter inside was very much appreciated. There were even some newspaper clippings.
@zoy13
9 ай бұрын
Wisdom words
@Greatboogersandwich
8 ай бұрын
What about the army? The Air Force bootcamp is chill.
@dennismccallister1546
Жыл бұрын
And yet no one has been disciplined over the thirteen dead troops in the catastrophic evacuation from Afghanistan.😊
@timo4040
Жыл бұрын
I was gonna reference the gd thing! Not one ever resigned his/her commission either whether they were directly responsible or just out respect. That showed me the true character of leadership we have in the ranks. They all looking out after their post retirement pensions and consulting work pay checks. Thank you for not forgetting those 13 service members(11 Marines) that were negligently murdered
@littlebob1261
6 ай бұрын
How about Bush getting us into Iraq for nothing and we lose thousands? Where is your Fing outrage there you tool
@darktoadone5068
Жыл бұрын
I went to Boot in 81 and all my DI's were nam vets and they pushed water on us like crazy because they knew being in the jungle you had to stay hydrated and they would tell us stories of what it was like for them and they didn't want to see us go through the same.
@richardmorris6365
Жыл бұрын
We also had those salt tablets in 75,don't know if they're used anymore. War is hell,so is the preparation for it. Oooh Rahhh
@michaelallen1154
Жыл бұрын
If you went to recruit training in '81 and they told you that they were 'nam vets they were full of shit.
@joeblow1688
Жыл бұрын
Yes, those DI's took their responsibility seriously.
@DavidFrehlini-y1y
Жыл бұрын
@@richardmorris6365. USMC 64--68. Parris Island. I don't remember the salt pills in Boot Camp. But we did have them in Vietnam, 65--66. Semper Fi. God Bless.
@JuanAppleseed-ge6tb
10 ай бұрын
I went to Basic in '09 right around the Surge. We had "hydration formations" at least once every hour or two. It was OSUT for Scout School, so the training was legitimately brutal. I remember the distinct sensation of sweating the water out as fast as I could drink it.
@Rob89139
Жыл бұрын
I agree, losing 5 recruits in 2 years is to many, however, sending 13 to the abby gate in Afghanistan after telling the sniper who had the bomber in his sights to stand down? Not sure how that warrants a promotion yet that's what happened
@ericschlebus6488
Жыл бұрын
My son, who is now a Corporal, went through this period. He said it was crazy how many guys got real sick and a few almost died from the heat.
@DrJeffreyMSeder
Жыл бұрын
The jabs
@lpg12338
Жыл бұрын
@@DrJeffreyMSeder Exactly! Many people, young and old have collapsed while performing physical activities, (sudden death syndrome). Heck, they are now recommending EKGs for kids in school. The news mainly reports the high profile cases, you rarely hear about “Mike the plumber” or “Jason the school kid”. The interesting part is, if you know anyone who works with actuary tables and life insurance, see what they have to say about premiums going up. Also, check Service Corporation International (SCI), a buddy of mine has purchased many many shares before Covid got hot and heavy, he is now doing very well, death is BIG business. If you want physical proof as in “medical trials”, then good luck, those type of things will never make their way to the public’s eye. (IF) you received the vaccine then I hope I never hear or read about you, many people took the shot under false pretenses. I am not vaccinated and had Covid (3) times and it sucked for about (5) days each time, but it went away, it was like a bad flue case. As always, each to their own. Stay safe.
@TheWorldsOkayestUSMarine
Жыл бұрын
It's not summer camp or boy scouts, I think many people tend to forget that. You're training to kill other human beings who are actively trying to kill you. War does not stop because it is hot or cold, rainy or dry.
@alexanderwalle3568
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't actually think of what it is like down there during the summer--I would highly recommend no one go during that time--it has to be the worst; I went during the winter (not thinking of or planning for the weather one bit) and it was rough; "cold" doesn't cover how cold it is, but just like the heat wherever you live, North Carolina can also royally suck. On base at Lejeune, people would fall-out on humps or they would have to stop training altogether--it happened anyway that people would fall-out if we were coming back from some LZ out in the bush. And if it was exceptionally hot out there too, someone was probably going to take a dive despite their efforts not to--because it's hot everywhere you go, really, the same as it's cold during the winter no matter where you are. The weather gets everyone.
@Ishootback239
Жыл бұрын
It’s not hard being in the heat… Maybe kids need to spend more time outside instead of indoors all day 😂😂😂
@robertrobert7924
Жыл бұрын
When I was a recruit at Ft. Bragg, NC in 1968, I watched another recruit die and turn blue. It was obvious to me that he had an unknown heart condition that made him unfit for the rigors of recruit training. This happens today with young athletes who have undiagnosed health conditions. It is not the fault of Commanders. They are being used as scapegoats.
@dutchray8880
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I did basic at Dix in 1971. Nobody died but I knew I never wanted to be a drill sergeant because they have to straddle a thin line between tough and crazy. Sudden cardiac death is rare, but it even occurs in professional athletes. It doesn't take much to ruin a career in the military.
@johngayder9249
Жыл бұрын
I’m wondering what role any recent mandatory injections may have played.
@baronedipiemonte3990
Жыл бұрын
Then there's an issue with the MEPS physical/medical exam... they should pay more attention to a candidates HEART as opposed to their hemorrhoids
@timfronimos459
Жыл бұрын
@@johngayder9249 Absolutely. I know of 7 people in their 30s that have died recently. All had cardio related (so caled vaccine) deaths.
@dutchray8880
Жыл бұрын
@@johngayder9249 There's always been mandatory injections. Of course, you're talking about covid. Which conspiracy do you endorse? There's a huge buffet to chose from.
@charleswestern4520
Жыл бұрын
You guys should probably run your scripts past a Marine. It would be less embarrassing for you. And don’t use an army officer to explain the USMC. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
@billrahn8723
Жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. They interviewed a long haired Army dog. That’s MSM for you.
@BushidoDevilDog
Жыл бұрын
Scrolled through the comments to see if a fellow Devil Dog was gonna point this out...
@familyman3573
Жыл бұрын
"There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion." - Gen. William Thornson, US Army
@AniwayasSong
9 ай бұрын
As a USMC Veteran who attended Boot at P.I., I 100% agree with you!
@FP194
6 ай бұрын
So you think the drills or officers were going to speak out about what happened and jeopardize their careers You don’t know how the real world works
@tonyalways7174
Жыл бұрын
In British commando training every endurance test has compulsory water stops after every hour of training or testing and it reduced heat injuries significantly.
@michaelparrish5999
Жыл бұрын
I graduated boot camp in 1968 from MCRD San Diego. Training was tough brutal at times but compared to actual combat it was joke . What I thought was tough was nothing in comparison to combat tour with 9 th Marines in Vietnam. If you can’t hack it in boot camp you won’t last 5 min in combat.
@grimora-dg3vq
4 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@tripodcatz5532
11 ай бұрын
A Marine officer is responsible for the Marines under his command, whether in combat or in peacetime.
@irockz281982
Жыл бұрын
It's very unfortunate that those recruits passed away. The question is, were they hiding a medical condition and didn't say something before joining? When I went through Marine boot camp in 2001, 911 happened during training. The training got even more intense.
@ALLHOCKEY89
Жыл бұрын
Ooh RAH
@speedsoft_pikachu882
Жыл бұрын
his recruiter told him to lie about it. the marines are fucked.
@TeufelHunden-cq6mq
Жыл бұрын
I remember that like yesterday leaving the island on the 14th
@cbm2156
Жыл бұрын
Some of these recruits should not have been marines anyway. The standards are so low now, that they are getting people who can not take the training.
@williamsmith8790
Жыл бұрын
@@cbm2156Fraudulent enlistments have been around since 1775. And unfortunately recruits have been dying at the Depots since before Jack Webb ever put on a Smoky.
@3dogsrus
Жыл бұрын
Don’t go into the Marine Corps expecting the same treatment you would get in a kids summer camp. Number one thing you learn is “YES SIR’’ and never ever think about quitting. Your fireteam, your squad and your platoon are depending on you to keep them alive. Never ever quit!
@morbid1
Жыл бұрын
You shouldn't quit regardless of your branch but you should not have to f##king die to prove how tough you are. There is a limit even in boot camp/basic training.
@3dogsrus
Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure what you are referring too?@@atticusfinch3931
@atticusfinch3931
Жыл бұрын
@@3dogsrus my bad sorry about that
@jonmolina948
Жыл бұрын
It’s more than that. You can’t just expect to tough it out like a stupid person. Get yourself situated properly before you even join. Get in the pool, get used to swimming. Take your time in the delayed entry program and use it to get in shape and learn drill.
@joecanedo5897
Жыл бұрын
To me basic training Army ,or boot camp is the uniform is different. Sp/ 4 1966-68 we all served USA
@oldwarriorlife
Жыл бұрын
VERY UNFORTUNATE LOSS OF LIVES. PRAY FOR THE FAMILIES BUT THE MISSION DOESN'T CHANGE. OUR COUNTRY DEPENDS ON IT! SEMPER FIDELIS!
@jerryarensberg4269
Жыл бұрын
In 58' the first day of boot training we were told we were 'not human beings' and it went down from their. Made it tho Semper-Fi
@HogRebel
2 ай бұрын
You mean like Gysgt Hartman, right. Subhuman pieces of amphibious 💩, correct? 🤔🤣👍 Yep. Navy CC’s said we were slimeballs at times too, LOL!
@garryhinesmon5629
Жыл бұрын
My condolences to the families 🙏. I went to Army boot camp in 1982, and Marine boot camp in 1987. Served in Korea, Okinawa and Iraq. I feel special because I'm still living. Be all you can be. Semper Fi 🇺🇸
@BeADad2447
Жыл бұрын
I was in Marine bootcamp in October 87! Was in Okinawa. Mechanic on KC-130 SQUADRON. When young men train hard, these things happen.
@warrenrayledbetter9957
11 ай бұрын
Wow, two boot camps! Thank you for your service!
@garryhinesmon5629
11 ай бұрын
THANK YOU@@warrenrayledbetter9957
@alphamale1717
11 ай бұрын
Thank you OSVET.
@kyle47922
10 ай бұрын
Thank you brother I served in the Army from 2001-2013 Engineer/Airborne. Deployments included Kuwait 2013, Iraq 2006 to 2007,Afghanistan 2009-2010, Afghanistan 2012.
@bucklejrjjbg8197
Жыл бұрын
I watched a video about the new army basic training. They were doing relay races and games. Being urged not to be to competitive. Wining platoon was first for chow, losing platoons had to do like 20push-ups. No yelling, no urgency, no stress, no muscle failure. Marine boot camp should follow suit. Making a better and stronger military. Not really of course. I was really hoping the Marines wouldnt change, but it looks as though the vice is being tightened. And when an example is made of a couple of people, everyone else tends to cave as well. What can you do? It's all bs, and i dont believe women are actually making it through ranger school. Maybe rangerette school, which isn't meant to be an insult, its just probably closer to the reality. Why are we so bent on inclusion? everything is not intended for just anyone and everyone. I was Army infantry, 30 years ago. Very disappointed by the new army basic training video, looked like a summer camp, the drill sgts like camp counsellors. I hope the Marines stay hard.
@hellnah6466
11 ай бұрын
They don’t show how hard it is on video because they don’t want to deter people. It’s the same for Air Force basic training videos, it’s a lot worse in person.
@bloodyspartan300
Жыл бұрын
There is a great deal of talk about loyalty from the bottom to the top. Loyalty from the top down is even more necessary and much less prevalent. One of the most frequently noted characteristics of great men who have remained great is loyalty to their subordinates. -George S. Patton
@riverthur
Жыл бұрын
I’m always on the fence when something like this happens. DIs sometimes can’t tell if the recruits are faking their condition or they really can’t continue. Having multiple corpsman onsite will definitely help to monitor and advise. Other options will be just to have them drop back to last phase, then recruit can decide if they want to move forward or need more time to gather themselves together. Regardless, my condolences and good luck to all future recruits and to the Corps. Semper
@robertshipley6990
Жыл бұрын
You say faking. Interesting. Then why are drill instructors inadequately trained recognizing symptoms of heatstroke?
@hpa2005
Жыл бұрын
I second that
@taoliu3949
10 ай бұрын
@@robertshipley6990The problem is that sometimes you have up to 100+ recruits with 3~5 DIs overseeing then. When you have those sorts of recruit/instructor ratio, people get missed especially during the crucible which is essentially a FEX and you're constantly on the move. Recruits wandering off on his own in the woods is very possible. Also, many recruits at this stage have pretty much been conditioned to fight through whatever discomfort they may have. Recruits ignoring/hiding their own injuries is also very common because they don't want to get held back. Not to mention the crucible is the culminating event, once it's over it's over. Recruits will do literally anything to make it through because they're so close to the finish line.
@mothmanmothman4909
2 ай бұрын
99 percent are faking from night 1. I got dropped I'm receiving because of hearing. They thought I alongside with a dozen other, were faking. I wasn't at all. My recruiter being a recruiter managed to get me there after failing MEPs once. They others finally admitted to faking and went on. One other guy lied his butt off and was perfect at when to push the button and when not to. I was literally seconds away from being kicked out before I got my waiver. But while in MRP and RSP, I saw some perfectly capable recruits lie their butt's off about whatever their ailment was. Maybe 10 percent actually were legit. What's crazy is they'd go to way worse extremes to get out than to just graduate
@mr.knowitall6902
Жыл бұрын
It’s extremely sad that anyone loses their life while trying to serve their country. But just remember the Marines have the toughest longest and most strenuous training out of any branch in the history of the military . I think civilians need to look themselves in the mirror, and not to lie to themselves . If you’ve never done anything remotely physical in your life or you come in fat or how does shape what do you think it’s gonna happen and that Carolina heat been there done that it is extreme .
@PlutoTheGod
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but they’re there to LEARN. It’s not their fault if someone with a random medical condition drops dead but you can’t be losing recruits who wandered off and became delirious or due to training accidents. At another base they accidentally shot one of the recruits during a live fire training like what the fuck? They have a hard enough time recruiting, be a little bit more responsible with your trainees who will quite literally push themselves to death if you allow it.
@speedsoft_pikachu882
Жыл бұрын
alos hazing is still an issue
@DutchG
Жыл бұрын
Because the kids are weak they should know what they get to some kids call there parents and soy are treating bad which is bullshit because they can't make it my is one of the best of the best my opinion
@speedsoft_pikachu882
Жыл бұрын
@@DutchG those DIs are not allowed to lay a hand on those recruits you are part of the problem. hazing is hazing period. end of discussion. marine are fucked
@Hackspear214
Жыл бұрын
@@speedsoft_pikachu882 Hazing, or a limited form of it is what boot camp was about. It is ‘controlled’ hazing.
@MarcelinoCano-f7f
11 ай бұрын
The recruit training leadership to be removed from the drill field can severely hurt their careers in the Marine Corps. I'm a Marine veteran, during my recruit training i've never heard this type of removal. If these Commanders engaged in criminal activities, they may have to stand tall in articles of the UCMJ. Maybe we'll find out the outcome of this shocking story. To all Marines based around the world, take care of one another. You are the protectors of the defenseless, come home soon. God bless you all!
@njaneardude
10 ай бұрын
You can bet the Colonel is going to push pencils at the Pentagon until forced retirement.
@rcstl8815
Ай бұрын
@@njaneardude He's probably already signed his corps provided resignation. He won't be going to the Pentagon.
@carlworthy8847
9 ай бұрын
I served in the United States Marine Corps MCRD 1976 Unfortunately there was some recruits that lost their lives Drill instructors was hard and crazy But they was good at what they do. At that time I thought if we Baby a marine How would they Handle being in a war are a prisoner of war To me the harder the better This is not the boy scouts Some make it and some don't That's the chance you take when you sign up.
@grimora-dg3vq
4 ай бұрын
100%. A weak military is no good to anyone!
@raymondparker184
Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder what effect the covid juice has to do with this. Young people all over are dropping by the day with no apparent cause...
@Hackspear214
Жыл бұрын
Proof? Statistics?
@deepthinker999
11 ай бұрын
@@Hackspear214Well there was an Aircraft Carrier Commander who was relieved of his position over COVAD.
@Hackspear214
11 ай бұрын
@@deepthinker999 What’s COVAD?
@grimora-dg3vq
4 ай бұрын
Well I had all 4 shots plus the booster and I'm still here! Semper Fi! No cause? Where's that even posted? Bet the world is flat in your mind too!
@GetSome76
Жыл бұрын
These recruits are entrusted to my care! I can say this because I was a drill instructor on Parris Island once upon a time...
@cba4389
Жыл бұрын
Did you require your recruits to get a certain vax? Did you create your account just to post this one comment or are you a bot account? Please share fake DI.
@rosahrod
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service.
@JOSED-tg9ku
10 ай бұрын
IF THOSE YOUNG LIBERALS ARE ON DRUGS ??? NOT MUCH A DI CAN DO..
@njaneardude
10 ай бұрын
Rah! Former 1st Alpha PI hat here. Seems like a lifetime ago 😂
@MrOcto13
10 ай бұрын
Tough to show empathy without humility as a DI. I could only imagine a recruit dying under their supervision. Not being no fault of the training regiment.
@jackroper8829
Жыл бұрын
M.C.R.D. July 1971, Platoon 3074. Raw, no such thing as cell phones, social media, family day, Political correctness. Stayed by the Airport in the ww2 metal Quanset Huts. Marine corps different today than back in the day. India Co 3/1 1st Marine Division 0311.
@willisswenson3843
10 ай бұрын
As a US Marine, 1969, boot camp is to weed out the weak. Physically and mentally. We had eighty recruits in my platoon. Ten washed out for mental reasons, they couldn’t take the pressure. Five were dropped back for physical reasons. That’s a nineteen percent failure rate. The platoon commander explained it this way. A US Marine cannot be weak, not physically, and especially not mentally. If you can’t take the pressure in boot camp? How the hell are you going to do it in combat? A Marine owes it to himself to be mentally and physically strong. To be unbeatable. But more than that? They owe that to their fellow Marines. Because their lives are in your hands. The US Marines are given the toughest, nastiest jobs for a reason, they can get the job done. There should be no wussies in the Corp. SEMPER Fi.
@alphabravo8703
Жыл бұрын
Three recruits died on Parris Island when I was stationed at Weapons Training Battalion. One from heat stroke and two tried to sneak off at low tide. They both got mired in the mud, got stuck, then drowned when the tide came back in.
@timo4040
Жыл бұрын
Back in those swamps there are meat eating gators. The mud musta saved them from becoming a meal. Everyone knows you can’t escape of that island.
@joejoyce5966
Жыл бұрын
@@jmit3491he didn't escape. They just send a couple of MP to MOMMIES to pick him up and take him to jail .Charged with desertion. You wouldn't want to go through life with that over your head.
@thodan467
Жыл бұрын
Why did his superior not recognice heat stroke and acted accordingly
@grimora-dg3vq
4 ай бұрын
The day I graduated as we were leaving PISC they pulled a half of a recruit from the swamps. The other half was gator chow. That place ain't no joke!
@YellowCab524
Жыл бұрын
"Marines die, that’s what we’re here for. But the Marine Corps lives forever. And that means you live forever." Gunnery Sgt Hartman Full Metal Jacket,1987
@ericsierra-franco7802
Жыл бұрын
Yeah...but not in basic training.
@MasterBlasterSr
Жыл бұрын
@@ericsierra-franco7802 happens all the time.
@manuelmateo3601
11 ай бұрын
Staff Sargent Hartman was an actor and not infantry in Vietnam. A myth and A reality.
@YellowCab524
11 ай бұрын
@@manuelmateo3601 Gunnery Sergeant Hartman was portrayed by Robert Lee Ermey. Ermey enlisted in the United States Marine Corps in 1961 at age 17 and went through recruit training at Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego in San Diego, California.[5] He served in the aviation support field for a few years before becoming a drill instructor in India Company, 3rd Recruit Training Battalion, at Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego, where he was assigned from 1965 to 1967.[9] Ermey then served in Marine Wing Support Group 17 at Marine Corps Air Station Futenma on Okinawa, Japan.[5] In 1968, he was ordered to South Vietnam with MWSG-17, and spent 14 months in-country. The remainder of his service was on Okinawa, where he was advanced to Staff Sergeant (E-6). He was medically retired in 1972 because of several injuries.[10] On May 17, 2002, he received an honorary promotion to Gunnery Sergeant (E-7) by Commandant of the Marine Corps General James L. Jones.
@susannebrunberg4174
10 ай бұрын
@@manuelmateo3601Late this one. But wasn't Hartman a drillinstructor, he wasn't an actor? But still, no one should die in bootcamp, something isn't right. People die in wars but in basic training, must be something else here. Anyway it's very sad that this happened.
@GickelsGaming
Жыл бұрын
"wandered away" = RUN FREAKIN THAT WAY OR MY DRILL INSTRUCTORS ARE GONNA RIP YOUR FRIGGIN HEAD OFF
@OzFrog48Z
Жыл бұрын
When a young man in his physical prime passes away under those circumstances There was probably some underlying medical issue that went undetected. Someone has to be held responsible, so it's the drill instructor, the low man in the chain.
@thomasm8872
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes Marines die in training. It happens. But we are the Marines. We were trained to be as tough as possible. Not every condition can be attended to. I hope this never changes or we will weaken. My condolences to the families and, understood, it could have just been Afghanistan where 11 Marines were just tossed away before even using that tough training through incompetent leadership. The Marines can not change and there will be losses at every stage of service but that is why we are Marines. Thank God for the Marines. Say a prayer for the fallen.
@theneurologist1
Жыл бұрын
Goddamn right! 💪🏻🇺🇲
@kcdiazWTV
Жыл бұрын
But you're a not a Marine a yet when you're still in bootcamp. You can't be a Marine if you die before you become one.
@thodan467
Жыл бұрын
you still used a musket
@ericsierra-franco7802
Жыл бұрын
When multiple people die in the span of a couple years .... there's a problem. To say otherwise is pure ignorance.
@choochoo8240
Жыл бұрын
Pushing too hard during those hot days .. It is great to know we can take breaks during war, due to the weather conditions 🤔
@slothypunk
9 ай бұрын
Are you Marines? From the sound of it you better be or else your opinion is moot!
@choochoo8240
9 ай бұрын
@@slothypunk Camp Horno was home in Pendleton.
@leolyon2373
Жыл бұрын
When I was in boot camp, I had a recruit who was standing next to me on the firing line, shoot himself in the head with a 45cal.. Deaths do happen in boot camp!
@gew9487
Жыл бұрын
Woman Marine (Wm) here, 65-68. Sharpshooter out of Basic. Been at wrong end of gun two times in my life. And, the first time was on the firing line in Basic. One of my fellow women recruits, who knew nothing about guns, turned her gun on me. She's saying I don't what to do with this thing! I had been shooting since I was 4. My Dad, law enforcement, was a competitive shooter. I jumped at her a pushed nose if gun down range, screaming down range, down range. No DI showed up!!? Lordy, at least she didn't shoot me. Wasn't too impressed with how Marines trained WMs on gun range. No safety guidance. Just stand up and shoot. I helped Dad run police gun ranges so I had higher expectations. WMs were only taught to shoot 45s. No rifle training. Semper Fi. Blessings to you. And, I belong to WM Association. We have one WWII WM left. She's 99 and amazing. Still very independent and mentally alert. She's a role model for sure 🇺🇸🙏🤗
@Mainly-boy-outdoors
Жыл бұрын
Well first I want to say this I appreciate the service of the Marine Corps I hold a them in a special place in my heart now for the rest of the military I want to thank you for your service to our country if it wasn't for you we wouldn't be free that being freedom is not free without our military. Now for a little bit of a rant I've seen videos of the Army recruiting those videos I saw the recruits were Encouraging transgenders and people who were encouraging those who want to become transgenders they were encouraging them to do that now I'm sorry but I can't support that because god made man and women in his own image. If you're thinking about going transgender then you can't keep your oath of enlistment and be transgender I'm sorry but please just don't join the military.
@geo525252
10 ай бұрын
Went through Boot Camp MCRD in 1970. Same now as then, some of these DI's get carried away with the power they have and take it too far. Others, few in number, are just sadistic and have no business in any leadership position.
@rockyrocamontes8972
Жыл бұрын
It's never a good thing when a recruit dies during training. Especially, when these heat related incidents can be avoided. There should be ice tubs available for heat stroke incidents. Having said that, we must consider these Marines are preparing for war, not a pie eating contest.
@daveb.4268
Жыл бұрын
I don't know...thanks to that uniform, I got to eat a lot of "Pie".😉
@robertshipley6990
Жыл бұрын
Marines don't kill their own in training, so as to live on the battlefield
@rockyrocamontes8972
Жыл бұрын
It's important to acknowledge these types of incidents can be avoided. It's happened before on HS football fields and police academies. The answer is to recognize the individual is a heat casualty. Then submerge the person in an ice tub to cool the person down.
@morbid1
Жыл бұрын
True but if you fu##ng die in training you won't ever get to the war.
@rockyrocamontes8972
Жыл бұрын
@@morbid1 you make a good point. There should be a Corpsman on scene to take away responsibility from the DIs.
@michaelsix9684
Жыл бұрын
before accepting any; recruits, Marines should screen all enlistees very closely, have them complete a fitness program before arriving at boot camp, if you fail to do the program or don't meet a std. you can't enter training
@Linchpin_TF
4 ай бұрын
and with the drill instructors to. that don't hand over a platoon of new recruits to an irresponsible psycho. i always thought that a DI is trained in profiling to quick recognize when recruits had reached their limits.
@robertbishop5357
Жыл бұрын
My son graduated from Paris Island and had no problem going through the crucible. I wonder if this kid actually listened to what the di's were telling him on how to be successful. These gen z kids don't understand personal responsibility. It's always someone else's fault.
@cba4389
Жыл бұрын
Athletes falling out has become common over the last two years. Please share your expertise on recent vaxes before attacking a generation if you have any sense of personal responsibility.
@rujackswing618
Жыл бұрын
Sorry for all the Effort & the Lost... But they Said He Died On Duty.. Not Hiding Like Some... We don't Know What Triggers Our Failure to Survive.. Sometimes it is Out of Our Hands.. I Came Back from Dying.. & If I Accuse my Entity / Invisible Force of Causing me any Pain.. I will soon Suffer... I am Not Allowed to bellyache, squawk or Jawjack About the Negative... He was at the End. A Few Days From becoming a Marine.. But He should Be Honored as a Full Diehard Jarhead.. He gave his Life to Be Front & Centered on the Quarter Deck.. Love Self, Protect Life, Cultivate Gifts, & Make Beautiful Memories. Peace..!!!
@MrCyp200la
Жыл бұрын
The crucible was easy for me the only thing that sucked was the hike back to the parade deck.
@bendavis8056
Жыл бұрын
There is some negligence on the part of command on the drill NCOs. Overlook the physical well being of the recruits they are training to be Marines. Some things combat leadership wouldn’t.
@rujackswing618
Жыл бұрын
Few Month ago, We Lost a future Sealteam Member. He was ill.. He may have had pnue.. I don't Know.. But I'm sure Those around him Knew.. I Say.. There is No Such thing as a Sick Bay Commando... The Lazy Non Hackers are Always the Same.. He Made it to Hell Week.. You Have to be Boss on the Training Field to Make it that Far... The Training Officers / NCO s have to do the Hygiene/ Medical Inspections test for Fevers, Stability & Sustainability... We can't start Losing Our Warriors at the Finish Lines.. God Help You if you put in So Much Work & then Lose it All to a Bug.. Of Any Type.. Mrs. Custer of the 7th Calvary.. Hated Chiggers.. Such a Nasty Filthy Creature.. Peace..!! If a Recruit is Sick.. Get Medical EMT Assistance... Please.. Take Good Care of the Warriors Around You..
@robertspencer6085
11 ай бұрын
Yeah….i heard the new recruits complained the training made them feel uncomfortable. On a more serious note IF he had a proper medical clearance or even an exam maybe this could have been prevented but then we all have quotas. 😊
@dennisplatte7506
Жыл бұрын
I noticed that the Marines graduating the past year or two didn't look as sharp or as in shape as Marines have looked in the past 15 years or so. That will get you relieved of command. And was the top guy a bit out of shape? Possibly not perfect role models.
@A_10_PaAng_111
Жыл бұрын
The CO looked like he was a little coo coo.
@mofo7689
Жыл бұрын
San Diego, Nov 1983, class of platoon 3089. Every one of us looked like we could eat nails at the end of training. Once the tormenting was done, we all went on to our specialties that required only a fraction of the required intensity. In a "thinking position", most of us returned the lost weight due to an "activity factor" not common across specialties; anybody working in city hall is not going to require the same fitness level of a firefighter or LEO.
@teller1290
Жыл бұрын
It's all political correctness. They're shit canning anyone trying to hang onto the old Corps.
@thodan467
Жыл бұрын
you need new glasses
@dennisplatte7506
Жыл бұрын
Do you think Marines the past year or two look as lean and sharp as they have been the past 20 years? I sure don't. They look better than we did in 1969----but we only had 7 weeks af actual boot camp then. @@thodan467
@Catholic4Rednecks
8 ай бұрын
It’s not supposed to be the Cub Scouts. This is for combat. Our Society is too woke and broke to win a ground war.
@maryannpurcell-lauer5449
Жыл бұрын
Stay strong Marines this is why you guys win Wars and we sleep at night don't let anyone alter how you do things. Marines died recruits die. I've spent all my kids into the military my youngest is is my most proudest. He is a marine through-and-through and I can thank Parris Island and the Marine rebuilding the man he is today. He got banged up. Is life was on the line a few times. And I'd let him do it all again not that I could let him. Some hear the call some don't weed them out that's all I can tell you. Be a little bit more stricter. Some just don't cut it and that's for the parents they should understand this. I am so sorry that this is happening. The Marines are a corporation of the people for the people to protect this country and its Constitution. Don't let anybody rearrange you guys know how to fight fight this to
@sealifett8395
Жыл бұрын
Win wars?When last the us of gays win a war?
@thinkingagain5966
Жыл бұрын
When's the last time America has won a war
@ZeonicZaku1-Zeon_Grunt_Suit
11 ай бұрын
@@thinkingagain5966 Winning aside, when's the last time America didn't get involved in a war it shouldn't have? It's been so long that you can't say it's been within living memory.
@elefecto4945
11 ай бұрын
Mary ann? What have you done for the marines?
@BeADad2447
11 ай бұрын
It's the Damn Marine Corps! Don't join the Marine Corps if you don't want to go to the Toughest training of any Armed forces! If you aren't healthy or gifted genetically, that's what the Army, Navy, Airforce, Coast guard is for or just stay home with mommy and daddy and go to college! It's terrible that this happens,(the Issue is not the drill instructor, or the Marine Corps, the ISSUE IS THAT THE DOCTORS THAT ALLOWED THIM INTO THE MARINE CORPS MISSED A HEALTH PROBLEM! MANY OF THESE KIDS HAVE HEART PROBLEMS, ARE NOT HEAT TOLORANT, OR SPENT THEIR LIVES PLAYING VIDEO GAMES AND NEVER DID ANYTHING ATHLETIC TO BE ABLE TO KNOW THEY HAD A HEALTH PROBLEM! HEALTHY PEOPLE DONT DIE FROM BEING HOT! STAY AWAY FROM THE MARINE CORPS, YOU WILL DESTROY THE MOST CAPABLE FIGHTING FORCE AMERICA HAS!
@DJ-lc5fe
Жыл бұрын
I use to hate scumbags in the military. I’ve seen a lot. But being out. Found out scumbags are in every job and everywhere.
@Voots7
6 ай бұрын
"The American Academy of Pediatrics estimates that approximately 2,000 people under the age of 25 die from sudden cardiac arrest in the U.S. each year. It is the leading cause of death in young athletes in the United States - resulting in 1 death in a high school student every 3 days, according to some experts." Risks are unfortunately inherent in ANY physical activity. Train Marines for war. Period. 2d RTB PISC Plt 2057 USMC 1984-2005 MSgt Retired
@dannystranahan1004
Жыл бұрын
When I was in Iraq the temperature got over a 135°. These recruits need to be trained for every situation. People die, it's sucks, but it happens. It doesn't necessarily mean it was negligence. But when they go to war, the weather is not gonna be easy on them. And the enemy sure as hell is mot gonna be easy on them. The way you train in peace, is the way you fight in war. Semper Fi Marines. 0369 Gunny
@DreamWeaver-nk8uv
Жыл бұрын
Speaking of failing to go up in the ranks. Look at General Milley. Prime Example of the FAILURE of the U.S. Army and the Department of Defense. This problem is started at the Recruiter level where all they are doing is trying to get NUMBERS rather than healthy available recruits. Then it TRICKLES down to the training stations and those who are the TRAINERS and their SUPERVISORS. I spent 18 years and watched as the QUALITY of soldiers went steadily DOWN HILL from the moment that they decided to embrace the "w0ke" idea that women are just as capable as men in training situations. NO! NO! NO!
@eugenegarrett78
Жыл бұрын
I went through it in 1992 it’s the marines not the Air Force but we gotta make a force to be reckoned with not a bunch of punks that can not handle combat That’s what marines do
@Oldsparkey
Жыл бұрын
It's Parris Island and not some summer camp. I's also a fact of life that recruits die , not ideal but they do and it can be from all sorts of reasons but not from the instructors. Look at the High School kids that die on the schools foot ball fields in training or even games. Do you blame the principal or coach for their deaths ?
@rafaelcalderon2027
Жыл бұрын
My condolences to those families. Losing a young man or woman at a young age is devastating. I believe that today’s young people have an erroneous view about military basic training; some think that training is like a video game or a movie. They have no clue on how the mind and body react to stress. Many are out of shape and expect to be babied. Some of the recruits are a weak example and a snap shot of diminishing concerns and values of today’s society. We get what we put in.
@WarBrah
11 ай бұрын
The attrition rate in basic training across all branches has largely stayed the same for decades; roughly 12-15%. No “this generation” bullshit is evidence to the contrary.
@finddeniro
Жыл бұрын
Top Tough Training.. Straining .. Not all Make it..Yeah ..I heard stories of Extreme .Tough Tasks..
@JohnVelcofsky
11 ай бұрын
I went through Parris Island in '82. I credit my high school football coach for his brutal 'water discipline' training of very little water. I had no issues and was the Series high PFT.
@mikeuunderwood9545
Жыл бұрын
I read thru most of the comments. #1 Fact in All of this conversation is, out of thousands going thru Any Boot-Camp is that there Are Going to be insidents where some are lost. And its harsh to say it out-loud but, IT HAPPENS. The Rigores of Boot-Camp weed out the weak-minded and those not qualified physically. I Do Feel Badly for those lost but, id RATHER SEE Tough M-Fers Around me when the chit hits the fan than someone questionable.
@marcusmcclain5433
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately these young kids nowadays are not built like generations before. It's not just in the military, it's everyday work. It's very sad and unfortunate our society has gotten softer and softer. The Militarys job is to train for war, war isn't nice and sexy. Majority of the instructors have served in the most extreme conditions facing death on a daily basis. They know what war is about. In war there will not be an instructors screaming in your face, there will be enemies who are very well adapted to their environment trying to kill you.
@hpa2005
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@thodan467
Жыл бұрын
that story was old before the spartans got their asses kicked and false
@blackbird_actual
Жыл бұрын
Some of the comments are ridiculous - how the hell are you supposed to form a young man into a hard charging, gung-ho Marine if you allow him to die before even making it onto a battlefield? Some of the guys commenting here make it seem like they'd prefer it if their son died in boot camp, just so they could brag online about how HARDCORE and NO NONSENSE their beloved Corps is. Get a grip - to kill the enemy, you have to be alive to squeeze the trigger. Some of the comments speculate about pre-enlistment conditions that weren't caught - that's a cop out from trying to adequately address the problem - HEAT KILLS if not respected and if anyone should understand that it's the leadership and DIs at Paris Island who are tasked with turning out tough, confident, and ALIVE U.S. Marines.
@smokingjoe9864
Жыл бұрын
It had nothing to do with dead boots. It was because the Colonel complained about the recruits wearing dresses.
@magatexan126
Жыл бұрын
The RTRC can only set expectations and standards for the Battalion, Company, and series commanders. He can't be omnipresent with 4 whole battalions with 100+ DIs and thousands of recruits to make sure the rules are being followed every second of every day. Yet, they're always the one hung out to dry.
@mofo7689
Жыл бұрын
I completed boot camp Nov 1983 in San Diego. Regardless of location, training standards don't change. I was thoroughly prepared for boot camp, having hiked the mountains to endure 1500 ft elevation and periods of 110 desert heat. It is never the recruit's fault. The trainers are fully to blame. In 30 yrs of service, I also wore the campaign cover. The recruits will only do what they are told; as a means to ensure safety. Most don't drink enough water or cut safety corners to lessen the training severity. Some platoons have 4 instructors, while others have 2 or 3. Now retired and with a family, I often laugh at their irritation of me knowing exactly what they are doing from being aware of their actions and knowing their thought process.
@gilb5210
Жыл бұрын
I completed boot camp in Aug 1983.
@rockyrocamontes8972
Жыл бұрын
I agree with your assessment. I can't believe they're still having problem with heat casualties. I graduated from MCRD San Diego in October of 79, with India Company, Platoon 3071 3rd Battalion. I know even back then our DIs made sure to adhere to the heat warnings and keep us hydrated.
@billrahn8723
Жыл бұрын
@@rockyrocamontes8972 MCRD San Diego Platoon 1058 graduated 3, October 1979. Semper Fi !
@cba4389
Жыл бұрын
If you went through before the newly required vax, your experience doesn't count. You're just advertising your stupidity by comparing before the vax to after. Athletes and young people are having increasing problems of recent too so your experience decades ago isn't relevant today. Maybe think a little before you open your mouth next time.
@AngryMarine-il6ej
Жыл бұрын
I graduated from Parris Island December 1983. I got there in late September when it is still very hot as the humidity can make things seem very hellish. They first thing the D.I.'s stressed when we got there was to stay hydrated. As soon as they issued our 782 gear, everywhere we marched we had a war belt with 2 canteens until things started to cool down in November. Ironic thing is my MOS school was at 29 Palms, so I had to look forward to getting baked again.
@hestergreen2031
Жыл бұрын
Extremely sad when things go unexpectedly wrong for a recruit. Or, any of the Marines soldiers. I knew a family whose son went into the Marine Corps. He enlisted with them straight from high school. When his enlistment ended and he returned to his family. Things were so bad for him while there that he became an alcoholic. Once out, he joined AA. What is going on with him now, is unknown, I’ve lost track of his family. Bottom line, is simple, “ IF YOU can’t stand the heat, DON’T walk into the kitchen.”
@Jumperman1
Жыл бұрын
Marines are not soldiers…
@grimora-dg3vq
4 ай бұрын
I dropped out of school at 15, signed up at 16 and turned 17 the day I was assigned to 2nd Battalion D company. 61 now, long been done and never had any of those issues! You chose your own choices.
@briangoldy8784
Жыл бұрын
Considering the Covid Vaxx an its Side Effects, Inflammation of the Heart Tissue. Myocarditis, Makes me wonder. Remember all the Kids on the Playing field Falling out.
@vandamn1164
11 ай бұрын
Listen guys, what my senior DI told us that if someone trying to get you do something that could possibly injure or even endanger your life, stand your ground and get the help you need. Yes it take guts, but at the end of the day you may just saved your life. You may be dropped but your family and friends rather come back alive. Stay safe!
@Sidewinder528
11 ай бұрын
They’re Bringing back The Old Hardcore Marine Corps Training where some recruits die during Training. Veteran USMC Semper Fi…..OOH RAH!
@michaelohara2161
Жыл бұрын
Three guys died during our boot, in 1984.
@Buffeddust
Жыл бұрын
Damn! What from, heat stroke?
@Hackspear214
Жыл бұрын
I’m working with the National Museum of the Marine Corps to write a book about the evolution of Marine Corps training and I have no record of this. Can you provide more information?
@karlamcqueen2011
Жыл бұрын
I went to Paris Island in 1995. It was hot but no died in our series.
@williamstricko2594
11 ай бұрын
Kids today are Not as tough physically as they were when I went to bootcamp in 74,they. Just aren’t.Todays kids spend a majority of the time playing X box and not being active .Different times different results…….
@jackrich2290
Жыл бұрын
Its the MARINES !Maybe its the recruits and the generation and the world they've grown up in ! Graduated from P.I. , Sept. 1981 , proud as hell still ! SEMPER FI !!!!!!!!!
@kennethmcdonald5278
Жыл бұрын
Damned straight
@markadkins9290
Жыл бұрын
SEMPER FI MY BROTHERS!!!
@alfredgalan1912
11 ай бұрын
They are probably relieved that they are relieved in this woke and spoiled military in this new soft military. Unfortunately men have been dying in boot camp for decades, accidents happen and it's unfortunate. Not everyone belongs in the military, certain branches or M.O.S.'s. Production workers, Warehouse workers, truck drivers all dye on the job from time to time. Do it or get out, you are not committed, one can simply walk away and say this is not for me. I knew many of guys and knew they should not be there. Everyone thinks because they can be accepted into a job that they should be there, not so.
@johnj.flanagan-songsoffaith
Жыл бұрын
Having been through recruit training from June to Sept 1963, there was no crucible, but the training was still hard. Some of the drill instructors were too much with the slapping and punching in those days, but it was all to toughen us up, although most of us recruits were a hard scrabble group and up to taking it. After all, if we wanted an easier boot camp, why enlist in the Marines, why join the best? We had to prove to ourselves and the Corps that we could make the grade. Because Marines were disciplined and motivated, all the boot camp training and infantry training paid off in combat. I served in Nam 1967-68. But as for recruit training and these deaths recently. I think the leadership went overboard. Hope the learned something.
@robertshipley6990
Жыл бұрын
First punk ass loudmouth Jarhead drill instructor that slaped me, he'd be picking his teeth up off the ground
@Kbarstill
Жыл бұрын
They were prepping you for what was going to happen to you if you were captured. They were being nice compared to the real thing.
@grandduke2145
Жыл бұрын
Dang Pops, you remember that far back? Lol
@speedsoft_pikachu882
Жыл бұрын
hazing is hazing . so for you old timers who defend it you are the problem
@Kbarstill
Жыл бұрын
@@speedsoft_pikachu882 HA ha ha !!! Bet you made a good buddy fu@$er and a rat !!! You were who blanket parties were made for !!!
@RobertL.JonesJr-hz8vl
10 ай бұрын
Gee, we had 3 Marine at San Diego who died while at boot camp in 1975. One died while on the rifle range who shot himself and one who jumped out a third story window at night the third had an allergic reaction to a shot during a medical exam. So people die every day from every kind of activities. It is not unusual to have it happen.
@1gruntusmc
10 ай бұрын
I went thru MCRD-SD in 74 and I now wonder about those f....n covid shots the services mandated. I wouldn't be surprised if that might be a factor for some who developed a heart condition. Semper Fidelis
@majorronaldmandell7835
Жыл бұрын
What a bunch of crap! The only way that recruits are not going to suffer occasional deaths and other injuries is water down the training to eliminate anything physically difficult at all. Eliminate long runs, eliminate more than a few punch up, and pull ups. Eliminate anything that causes exertion. The training has already been watered down over 50%, compared to what it was like when I was in Marine Corps Boot Camp in 1967. Today, recruits in all services are babied. You cannot produce tough troops without tough training? What chance will our troops have against enemy troops who have received very tough training like the Chinese, and North Koreans in combat. Our troops to day are nowhere near as physically fit. They cannot run as far or as fast, nor can they lift and carry heavy burdens, nor can they lift themselves over obstacles as high as the enemy, nor as fast as the enemy.
@chimrichalds2119
Жыл бұрын
Training shouldn’t kill you…period!
@MajorCoach21
3 ай бұрын
It's not the drill instructors who kill them. It is the fact that many of these kids get sick, coupled with the heat. Of course, some jump out of buildings. However, tough training is not supposed to kill anyone. See the stats on how many recruits go through the same training (with the same sickness and heat) versus the .0001% who pass away. All that to say, the USMC does it right. If you want a force to fight and kill the enemy you have to have tough training.
@zakhay235
Жыл бұрын
Sad fate of affairs in all services. The military doesn't need Politicians leading them. With the majority of senior leadership all having combat service. Our recruits should be the best in the world. But we have become WOKE
@edmondlau511
Жыл бұрын
Pushing him too hard in the heat. In combat, the enemy isn’t going to care how hot it is or how hard they push you.
@thodan467
Жыл бұрын
the heat is the same for the enemy and a heat casualty is not very useful
@jeffrey7938
Жыл бұрын
Battle of Palailu...ask those Marines who fought in 115 degree heat with only gasoline tainted water to drink!
@grimora-dg3vq
4 ай бұрын
@@thodan467 Hmm except in most cases they were born in it and conditioned. Sort of like bootcamp!
@thodan467
4 ай бұрын
@@grimora-dg3vq That IS Part of the Home Advantage, but how does IT Help to Push a Soldiers Till He becomes a Heat casualty?
@lamontsanford7014
Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, the new softer gentler more inclusive Corps had deaths? Seems like many layers of rank were skipped during this scapegoating exercise. Maybe the forced jab had something to do with the death of the one recruit.
@grimora-dg3vq
4 ай бұрын
You mean despite the other 120+ shots? STFU!
@larryviars6199
11 ай бұрын
Somebody had to take the fall in this soft world of today. Went in 89. We occasionally got slapped stuff like that. But we’re soft compared to Vietnam guys. Woke military not good for US
@janed5077
Жыл бұрын
There is NO excuse for a Marine to die in training. As a former Army soldier in charge of soldiers myself. I can say this without exception. After the situation is investigated. The reason found and corrected. And if fault (be it negligence, corner cutting, lack of discipline, too much mocho gun ho bs, or what else) is found, especially at a supervisory position, that person(s) should be disciplined. The last time I saw this happen, I was at Ft. Sill, OK. 25 soldiers lost there lives and 38 more were wounded bad enough to be hospitalized and have training interrupted with some medically discharged. This happened because some mocho gun ho bs Battery Captain ran his soldiers ragged for 3 weeks with minimum food and constant irregular sleep, and fire missions. On the last week a "1/2 dead on his feet" private short charged a 155mm live round and it was shot. The round landed short in a formation of basic trainees on bivouac. The Platoon Sgt, Lt, Battery XO, and CO all got fried. Needless to say, it NEVER happened again.
@timo4040
Жыл бұрын
Just fired?
@janed5077
Жыл бұрын
Not me. But I've been around others who have; A few others who should have been; And a few others who, if they were disciplined earlier, may have been salvaged before they screwed up so bad they had to be. This is not just a Marine problem. It is a military problem. Just last year I read about two Navy war ships that nearly collided head on in San Diego Bay, CA. (11-22-22 USS Momsem & USS Harper's Ferry) on a clear calm day. Just because the ships commanders were playing chicken. One of which had a reputation of pulling this "shi* storming stunt" repeatedly in the past. I have absolutely had it with this "too much mocho gun ho bs". The only way that stops these "fuc*-ups" from what I have seen, is to burn the chain of command higher and higher till enough of them "get the message". Because as I have stated earlier: "There is NO good enough excuse for any one to die in training". I use to make excuses trying to be understanding. You be the one who has to rite a letter just one time. There is No tolerance in me for this any more.
@baronedipiemonte3990
Жыл бұрын
Hello "Army"... this former Coastie agrees with you. CG field training and field duty is not for the snowflakes. And while I've been our a while ('90-'96) I'm not aware of any training fatalities - a significant amount of illnesses/injuries... and I wasn't going to let my men fall out in triple digit heat index and while crawling through the guts of tankers and freighters. We had one officer who was "much loved" 😉 who tried to ride us. He was "corrected".
@janed5077
Жыл бұрын
@@baronedipiemonte3990 Hay there CG. Yep, being in the military is not for the unmotivated or week mined or kneed. It takes strong people to be there. As it is a demanding dangerous job. Working around and with things that are designed to kill and break stuff and throwing your weight around with said stuff against people and things that are trying to kill you can be hazardous to ones health. No one needs to have that hazard increased to the point that your own sides carelessness will add to that. But that carelessness goes doubly so in training by thoughtless leadership whose negligence gets anyone damaged so badly they can't function or killed. Who-Ra and Airborne. we agree on this big time.
@MrCaptainBlack1
Жыл бұрын
This story is BS. Recruits do die. Back in boot camp in '85, a recruit died of a heart attack. Notice they didn't mention how these recruits died? If you keep lowering the standards, you will be very sorry with the product you get in return.
@jamesmilburn7569
Жыл бұрын
To say a recruit should not die during training kind of begs the question. Has there ever been a long period of time where recruits did not die? It's not like he died from drowning or died on a 20 mile march. It was a PFT. The USMC silence on just what they did wrong is really not the way to go. It fuels speculation on both sides. This isn't the 1970's where you can just paint over the rot.
@KingWolf01-f8h
Жыл бұрын
The Training is tough, it's to make you the Toughest!
@billyhighfill
Жыл бұрын
Hazing has its place. I wonder what they got fired for.
@JimBorgan
Жыл бұрын
Five in two years isn't that bad overall, considering the toughness of the training. God forbid the Corps lighten up on their training. Semper Fi.
@spookledrealhard7154
Жыл бұрын
Lol the toughest part about marine corps boot camp isn't the training. It's the constant neglect for 11 weeks. The last 2 weeks you finally start to be treated somewhat like a human again. But literally for 11 weeks you can rarely go to the restroom regularly, they dehydrate you on purpose and then force you to drink insane amounts of water all at once. One year at Parris island drill instructors shoved a recruit in a dryer and turned it on the kid had 3rd degree burns all over. This shit is stupid this isn't training. Boot camp is 13 weeks of hazing ask any marine you meet they will tell you the same. you learn very little actual training in boot camp lol.
@terry3469
Жыл бұрын
@@spookledrealhard7154lol, being a little dramatic. Did you graduate from Parris Island?
@spookledrealhard7154
Жыл бұрын
@@terry3469 lol yes and not dramatic just stating the truth. You probably haven't done anything but you gonna call me dramatic 🤣 you don't know me dude. I'm all about things being tough and brutal. What I'm not about is stupidity. And the marine corps is chalk full of stupidity. Why do you think colonel ward got fired? Ive met the dude myself a few times. Everytime he's giving a speech about marines not ratting on each other basically. Sounds to me like a dude who is up to no good. Marines have each other's back remember that saying you'd hear it a lot. The thing is that the have each other's back no matter what even if a DI runs a kid to death and doesn't let him drink from his cantine. That's stupid. While I was at Parris island the first week they have "THE MOMENT OF TRUTH" they used that exact scenario during this to get people to come forward about lying on medical shit. They said he lied about medical shit and that's why he died. That wasn't true he died from dehydration and that's been proven of course a bunch of recruits couldn't google it then but I had already known about that before going in and so when they lied about it to make recruits come forward and literally shamed this dude who gave his life to try and become a marine. Has he finished boot camp these same people would applaud him and honor his death but they literally shamed him and dishonored him these are not a few good men anymore. The marine corps has become far from what it used to be.
@dennisplatte7506
Жыл бұрын
@@spookledrealhard7154 I'd disagree---if you asked me. Almost too many classes everyday learning things. Maybe more field training and digging foxholes and long hikes would be in order. Just my thoughts.
@spookledrealhard7154
Жыл бұрын
@@dennisplatte7506 bro yall literally don't understand. Digging foxholes hiking all the physical shit is not what I'm talking about in talking about DI'S ignoring people's basic human needs to the point of death or hospitalization. This shit happens all the time. Bro I don't care about hiking I don't care about digging I don't care about doing anything all that is training to me. I'm talking about the literal abuse and hazing that goes on at Parris island. Y'all clearly don't get it.
@mewanttools7275
Жыл бұрын
At about 2:06 in this video, the person commenting makes assumptions that some nefarious or negligent acts were committed. I was a Marine Sniper and later a State Trooper. In the Trooper class after me a young man, son of an HO Sergeant, died while engaging in the 5 minute mandatory all-out slugfest boxing. His brainstem separated. Stuff happens. Training should be exceptionally rigorous and not everyone has what it takes. We should not demonize instructors with snow-flake evidence. Yep, I was a Sniper Instructor! Semper Fi !
@ernesthofmeister3054
Жыл бұрын
Recruits are out of shape compared to recruits of the past, sedentary lifestyle and mental toughness of modern kids contributes to this immensely,
@grimora-dg3vq
4 ай бұрын
Definitely true. A year or two ago I saw an Army recruiting poster with some young overweight and sorely out of shape adults that looked like they were playing flag football. Pathetic!
@jfp6400
Жыл бұрын
What happened did they use the wrong pronouns?
@CarlosSanchez-bg4wf
Жыл бұрын
Is a good day for my usmc. Always
@alexayuso3563
Жыл бұрын
Recruits need to be in shape when they join up. I saw guys who had never run before start running in boot. Many families are broken and they don’t think that getting their kids into shape is a priority. These boot camps have even been lowering their physical fitness. Vaccines have not helped. Before you troll this comment I work in the med field w a cardiologist group so I do know what I’m saying when it comes to myocarditis and vaccines. Almost all of our young men who are patients had myocarditis after the vaccine.
@Ranstone
Жыл бұрын
As for the last guy, sounds like he wouldn't have died if he had obeyed and stayed with the platoon. I saw some crap there. Crap happens, and some of it is inexcusable, but the last guy sounds like he sealed his own fate by going internal and wandering off.
@robertshipley6990
Жыл бұрын
Heat stroke causes delirium. Loss of sensory, reality, Direction, motor skills. During training, troops must be accounted for. This ain't brain science
@BSE1320
Жыл бұрын
"He wandered off." He probably was so dehydrated and had heat stroke; he couldn't even think straight. Don't think he was in control of his faculties.
@robertshipley6990
Жыл бұрын
@@BSE1320 I don't think the guy, you just commented on, has control of his faculties. His reasoning, his comment, was so damn stupid I can't believe he said that.
@reversi_dovah4995
11 ай бұрын
I think the problem probably lies woth the recruiter. Recruitment is at a low, and not meeting number looks bad for your career. Some of these kids were probably pushed through to boot camp when they should have been disqualified to meet numbers.
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