*KEYTHINGS TO NOTE* Short supplementary video: kzitem.info/news/bejne/uYubsJVpnXZpno4 The Parrying Dagger performs a normal Parry (the label of the skill is still "Parry" as compared to buckler having "buckler parry") like the ash of war thus it wasn't included in the video. The lower the starting parry frames the better The longer the parry frames the better. The easiest parry to pull off would be one that has the lowest starting parry frames and the longer parry frames. Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro/Parameters done for calculating frames 1:02 - Buckler Parry 1:09 - Parry with Small Shield 1:16 - Parry with Medium Shield 1:22 - Parry with Dagger 1:28 - Parry with Fists 1:34 - Parry with Claws ( RIP , mistake on my behalf to make Katar as Claws Sorry) 1:40 - Parry with Curved Sword 1:48 - Parry with Thrusting Sword 1:55 - Stormwall with Small Shield 2:01 - Stormwall with Medium Shield 2:07 - Carian Retaliation with Small Shield 2:14 - Carian Retaliation with Medium Shield 2:20 - Golden Parry with Small Shield 2:27 - Golden Parry with Medium Shield 2:34 - Thops with Small Shield 2:41 - Thops with Medium Shield
@moonflowerpalace3872
2 жыл бұрын
What's the point in Golden Parry if Carian Retaliation can do the same thing but also Parry Spells?
@AngBata11
2 жыл бұрын
@@moonflowerpalace3872 iirc golden parry has better reach.
@MT-zb7eg
2 жыл бұрын
Also, Carian Retaliation only parries a couple spells in the game. I appreciate the benefit, but it's extremely situational when compared to Golden Parry's reach.
@Eo-ms3kw
2 жыл бұрын
Carian retaliation also takes twice as much fp
@moonflowerpalace3872
2 жыл бұрын
@@MT-zb7eg Ah, so Golden Parry has more area. Got it!
@CoffeeSnep
2 жыл бұрын
Best thing about the buckler isn't the special parry, it's the indomitable fear of attacking that seeps into your opponent. I pull the thing out and suddenly I'm Scarecrow
@gabrielclark1425
2 жыл бұрын
This. Other players just assume that you know what you're doing if you have something equipped.
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
2 жыл бұрын
Every time I rush someone with a buckler they never know how to parry.
@CoffeeSnep
2 жыл бұрын
@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 maybe they're like me and are still trying to get the hang of it haha. Regardless, there's enough people that do know how to use it or at least get lucky to necessitate doing mix ups when someone has one.
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
2 жыл бұрын
@@CoffeeSnep I mix up my timing. I've never been parried. Two handed colossals help with that.
@Bojangus-
2 жыл бұрын
@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 pulling out the Buckler is mostly scary to people that played DS3 lol
@muttonsword
2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised Carian Retaliation is just straight up better than the regular parry I thought it would at least have a downside like lower active frames
@cosmiclikesminecraft
2 жыл бұрын
Does Carina Relatliation actually parry as well, I kinda assumed it just did the anti mage thing
@Neiuso
2 жыл бұрын
@@cosmiclikesminecraft It parries melee/normal attacks as well.
@slippy2315
2 жыл бұрын
Downside is that it costs FP, little as it may be
@SkyNinja759
2 жыл бұрын
@@cosmiclikesminecraft Every parry art performs like a normal parry. I think it tells you in the ash of war descriptions as well.
@MrTeucro99
2 жыл бұрын
@@slippy2315 it costs fp only if it parries magic, otherwise it dosent cost anithing. wich is fucked up, but i aint complaining goated ash of war.
@brisler1
2 жыл бұрын
I searched about parry frame this morning but got nothing then this clip show up. You are the best Ang
@bobbyblazini
2 жыл бұрын
We are but a figment of your imagination. How else can we serve you?
@SpacedogD
2 жыл бұрын
Lol there are already community compiled information weeks ago
@jp-sn6si
2 жыл бұрын
people have done this already and made a handy chart showing all the parry windows. they do this for every souls game.
@jp-sn6si
2 жыл бұрын
i feel like whoever made this video knew that too just because everybody knows about it but who would ignore that just for content?
@IDECIDETHETRUTH
2 жыл бұрын
He’s a real sweetheart
@Kevin-zz9du
2 жыл бұрын
Start of Parry Frames/# of parry frames Bucker Parry: 8/11 Parry+Small shield: 11/11 Parry+Medium Shield: 12/5 Parry+dagger: 12/9 Parry+fist: 13/5 Parry+claws: 13/5 Parry+curved swords: 12/5 Parry+thrusting sword: 13/5 Stormwall + small shield: 11/11 Stormwall + medium shield: 11/11 Carian Retaliation + small shield: 8/14 Carian Retaliation + medium shield: 8/14 Golden Parry + small shield: 8/14 Golden Parry + medium shield: 8/14 Thops Barrier + small shield: 13/9 Thops Barrier + medium shield: 13/9
@Marcohisjotaro
2 жыл бұрын
Thaaank you very much
@EmilKlingberg
2 жыл бұрын
Golden parry is just the best because its a aoe parry and has a much larger chance of catching your opponents weapon in active frames, some times even before their swing gets going, and some times at the end of their swing, you can even parry them out of range
@inpadin
2 жыл бұрын
@@EmilKlingberg yeah but golden parry costs fp every time you attempt to parry and carian retaliation costs zero fp to attempt or parry non magical attacks.
@ivorymantis1026
2 жыл бұрын
Parry dagger having the same timing as a medium shield is killing me.
@nitsuanomrah6997
2 жыл бұрын
So what's the best one, I don't really get this frames and all that
Thanks for putting all the info in one easy place! I’m definitely saving this for later
@t0lar
2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t that make Carian retaliation busted? You can parry spell with it and shoot magic swords back, why would you choose any other option?
@Psykout
2 жыл бұрын
@@t0lar It's on the same level as Golden Parry because that has pretty stupid range and AoE. You can parry multiple enemies at a time from range... I think Stormwall might have some range to it too.
@トーキ-g8v
2 жыл бұрын
@@Psykout that’s hilarious
@t0lar
2 жыл бұрын
@@Psykout there are really not that many situations where parrying multiple enemies is useful, you can only riposte one, I guess range parry makes it easier to avoid getting punished for mistakes? But the versatility of spell parry just overshadow all of that, not to mention the obscene damage those flying swords do, you can burst people in pvp with those.
@meltenvy
2 жыл бұрын
Huh, I KNEW something felt off when I was missing parries on my new playthrough after consistently getting them with Carian Retaliation for the latter 50 hours of my first. Took me a while to re-learn the regular parry window. Also, funny that Buckler Parry being a better parry is supposed to be its thing, but a medium shield with Carian Retaliation has more frames and also cancels projectiles.
@OsirisGrimoire
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this! This finally confirms that special parries have the same startup/active frames regardless of shield type, so you can have a 100% physical med shield while also having a better parry than the buckler. Carian Retaliation is the goat: best parry frames (tied with Golden), counters magic users, only costs FP when absorbing spells.
@Nanoqtran
2 жыл бұрын
WAIT WHAT. IT ONLY COST FP WHEN IT HITS MAGIC? jeez that makes it a straight up flat upgrade from a normal parry in all regards...
@OsirisGrimoire
2 жыл бұрын
@@Nanoqtran yup. RIP small shields, all you need is a med shield with carian
@qwormuli77
2 жыл бұрын
Add to this that there are a few med shields strictly superior to a few weight/stat classes (eclipse 10 STR, exile 14 STR and brass 16 STR), so outside of meme strats the literal best shields are all obtainable super early.
@ArthaxtaDaVince777
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know... For me personally, buckler is better than all the rest. Maybe because it's more like DS3.
@evanpotter860
2 жыл бұрын
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777 Uh, this vid shows that a buckler has the same start frames and parry duration frames as any medium shield with carian retaliation. If you mean aesthetically, then sure, but statistically medium shields are superior
@rukaelmina2134
2 жыл бұрын
This has matched my experience testing by feel. Due note that while golden parry looks equal to carian retaliation, it's strange hitbox has upsides and downsides. Golden parry seems to shoot out a horizontal hitbox, which can completely miss overhead attacks that come above you, but can parry level attacks that are much farther away like spears. Carian retaliation is easily the best all purpose parry since it just erects a giant parry wall in front of your character for 14 frames. Anyway, awesome video!
@Spyger9
2 жыл бұрын
Golden makes parrying in PvP much more reliable because you might not be in range from your opponent's perspective for a regular parry. Plus if a player attack comes from above, it's probably an unparryable jumping attack anyway.
@crispyhoneybun1607
2 жыл бұрын
@@Spyger9 well, it could be a light attack from a halberd, right?
@Drew-im7is
2 жыл бұрын
Also, with Carian Retal, the glint swords do almost no damage on a low level shield (I believe)... aka u need to invest in a shield to be able to do damage with he swords. If someone knows better, plz correct me
@antonyapostolov8252
2 жыл бұрын
@@Drew-im7is yes, but it's worth investing in the shield anyway. It's actually really broken and will most likely be nerfed very soon. I use carian retaliation on a small +25 Ice Crest Shield and with only 16 INT I do around 2500 damage when the 3 glint swords connect. It literally oneshots most players even with 60 vigor, hence why so many animals abuse the exploit with the bell in PVP
@ArthaxtaDaVince777
2 жыл бұрын
@@Spyger9 Idk, people keep saying how the range is so good on golden parry, yet buckler still feels much better and consistent.
@somniloquous0
2 жыл бұрын
Whoa. I've never looked at the parry frames in Souls before - I always assumed that the big swipe was the parry window, not the buildup before the swipe. No wonder I've always sucked at parrying!
@thechosenflutterbox
2 жыл бұрын
In dark souls 1 and demons' souls, the parry window actually starts as soon as the button is pressed. Dark souls 2 added startup frames before a parry and that's been the new norm since then
@Alfred_the_IV
2 жыл бұрын
@@thechosenflutterbox i needed this comment thanks 😂. Never knew the differences between games. Don’t meet too many other Alfreds either. Hi. 👋
@Dpyrt
2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you still struggle with parrying, but you can a find a wall or any solid surface and parry at it until you get the feel for it (you'll see a puff of smoke when the parry frames start). It helped a whole lot more than this video did.
@xervislane770
2 жыл бұрын
@@thechosenflutterbox no wonder I sucked at parrying after ds1
@Mart-E12
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dpyrt you can parry a wall?
@leonliu5220
2 жыл бұрын
The golden parry animation looks really funny when you hold the shield on the right hand since the golden swipe is always from right to left. Nice vid Bata! I'm always very curious about whether there is a difference on golden parry frames on small and medium shield. I've heard ppl talking golden parry on small shields are better than medium shield, but I guess that's just perception. Thanks for the vid.
@kylecarroll3819
2 жыл бұрын
I have over 200 hours of parrying and they did not show the Buckler Golden parry. I hit almost every party with that because I believe it has the buckler start times and golden parry window. I’ve tried each ash on every sized shield for hours and I can confidently say buckler with golden parry is the best because it all gives a giant range boost as well!
@Hauzerx
2 жыл бұрын
Time to throw them Bucklers in the trash and farm up a Brass Shield + Golden Parry/Carian Retaliation
@TheSwissing
2 жыл бұрын
I believe that the Katar, the "claws" you used are in reality in the fist category of weapon. Very informative and well done video aside from that.
@BigDBrian
2 жыл бұрын
fists and claws are a different weapon class in this game
@danro7593
2 жыл бұрын
@@BigDBrian He knows this. In the section of the video where he says "claws" he uses a Katar which is a fist weapon.
@BigDBrian
2 жыл бұрын
@@danro7593 ah mb i misunderstood
@Giraffinator
2 жыл бұрын
hope he sees this
@maxryan9052
2 жыл бұрын
I have a confession: ive played and beaten every souls game since demons souls, never once landed a parry.
@feelsgoodman2171
2 жыл бұрын
Parrying bosses in Elden Ring is not Worth it (unless you are a god at it) bcuz you need to parry them 3 times in a row or something to perform a riposte unlike previous games.
@Kryto_Gaming
2 жыл бұрын
@@feelsgoodman2171 It depends on the boss, some bosses require less parries.
@benjaminthibieroz4155
2 жыл бұрын
@@feelsgoodman2171 depends. Parrying is very effective on Elemer. Even if you can't crit, there's stagger and interrupting the combo.
@reunite-elite2988
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh if you don’t parry Gwynn what is you doing lmao
@maxryan9052
2 жыл бұрын
@@reunite-elite2988 tank
@lastname5753
2 жыл бұрын
A visual representation for the parry frames was very helpful, thank you. I've been trying to use dagger parry for elden ring and this will help allot with my timings.
@killaken2000
2 жыл бұрын
i haven't tried it yet but one of my biggest issues was that I didn't know what the parry's active animation window looked like but I'd imagine when I get to play again that it's going to help a lot.
@nilsgensert5814
2 жыл бұрын
The "claw" parry is performed with a Katar, which is a fist weapon, not a claw. Only the hook claws, bloodhound claws, venomous fang and raptor talons count as claws
@neech1311
2 жыл бұрын
🤓
@Frostborne2778
Жыл бұрын
🤓
@ibonihs
2 жыл бұрын
So basically there's literally no reason to use a small shield in this game because you can get a better parry with 0 fp cost and no downside with carian parry...? or a better parry with some fp cost with golden parry, while still keeping a 100% shield.
@ixiahj
2 жыл бұрын
Carian retaliation is 8/14? And you can put it on 100% phys block shields. That's busted. It has better frames than buckler parry but can be on something thick like brass shield.
@wellingtonrodrigues7654
2 жыл бұрын
don't tell the devs about this 🤫
@JordlbergerLP
2 жыл бұрын
The Buckler Parry is free and Carian retaliation costs 8 FP, if you are skilled thats nothing but for parry spammers the FP bar will melt.
@ixiahj
2 жыл бұрын
@@JordlbergerLP Last time I checked, it doesn't use FP. Maybe it only does when it catches a spell but if you're just parrying, it costs nothing.
@qwormuli77
2 жыл бұрын
@@ixiahj Yup, only on successful parries.
@jackson0922
2 жыл бұрын
@@qwormuli77 only on successful parry against magic, successful parry against physical is still 0fp
@nalthanzo4648
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if he tested this, but offhand and main hand parties are sometimes inconsistent. In DS3, the strongest parry was a main hand small shield parry, since main handing the shield had better frames to work with. I don't know if Elden Ring has similar changes, but I think it's worth double checking.
@KAJYT6969
2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't. Parry is the same whether its in main hand or offhand, however certain parries have no LH cancels when in the left hand, including thrusting sword, fist, and claw
@JoshuaProtz
2 жыл бұрын
Great info, thank you. I have been looking for parry frames since the game released. Carian Retaliation seems to only use FP when parrying a spell, Golden Parry uses FP every time the parry button is pressed, but I am not sure about Storm Wall. Does it use FP on a regular parry? Or just when it deflects a projectile/arrow?
@actionpants3138
2 жыл бұрын
It uses fp every time
@JoshuaProtz
2 жыл бұрын
@@actionpants3138 Thank you!
@HeiroftheAbyss
2 жыл бұрын
yep, can confirm as well it does consume hp every time you use it
@dawidjagodzinski1597
2 жыл бұрын
It would need futher testing, but I think i staggered some foes spamming storm wall trying to parry.
@coreylarcomb4879
2 жыл бұрын
Ooooooh. So close to a perfect video dude. If you could take the time to smack these boys onto a chart, explain to new players what exactly the start frames mean, and which specific two barriers best physical/magical. That would have just been the icecream on the cake. Otherwise I definitely give a 9/10. Appreciate the research my good guy. Praise the sun!, and praise you!
@Martykoi
2 жыл бұрын
I always thought bucklers parry is the best. Now I can equip medium shield with golden parry!! Nice!
@Sam-yr8ls
2 жыл бұрын
I personally found golden parry no way as consistent as buckler, no idea why, people keep showing frame data, but in game I always buckler parry everything where as golden parry gets lots of misses. So don't be surprised if you still prefer buckler over golden parry.
@zekedelsken9963
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sam-yr8ls buckler is faster, that might be part of it, also the golden parry is flatter and more outward, so high attacks are easier to miss
@Sam-yr8ls
2 жыл бұрын
@@zekedelsken9963 ah interesting it was a lot of the overhead hits that got me with golden parry. I think ultimately when you get the hang of it, you don't need anything but the buckler, after learning and improving I parried everything in the game that can be, it obviously took time but I'm very confident with it now, but whenever I test golden I sometimes miss easy things. I personally would advise stick to buckler as its still better, but it could be purely anecdotal and I could be retarded haha. Definitely try both and do what you feel is best, not necessarily frame data in a vacuum! 😄
@Sam-yr8ls
2 жыл бұрын
@@robertjura9639 I've parried since ds2, I've parried with every type of parry, and edlen ring I have only killed every enemy solo with parry riposte (if they can be parried). I have extensive experience with all the parries, it has nothing to do with anything to do with frames, the frames are figured out. All the main parry only runners almost all use buckler. Buckler is still better in practice regardless of frames. But thanks for telling me about the extra frames I already knew about 😅
@Sam-yr8ls
2 жыл бұрын
@@robertjura9639 you have no idea what your talking about. You never pre empt an attack for parrying 🤦♂️
@vitorvena
2 жыл бұрын
I hate how they kept making dagger abd curved sword parries worse with every game like damn bro those are the coolest looking parries come on!
@romankovbasniuk1826
2 жыл бұрын
Carian retaliation + carian shield has been my go-to for parrying. I'm glad that my choice was confirmed by data analysis. Thank you for posting this video!
@IronBahamut
2 жыл бұрын
Wait so Golden Parry and Carian Retaliation just don't care if you're using a Small or Medium shield, they both get the same frames? That's kinda nuts and makes small shields a bit pointless (aside for weight/aesthetics)
@korliemara592
2 жыл бұрын
lets make rivers of blood and spell spamers suffer boooiiiiis! sharpen your misericordes! sad that you cant parry malenias katana l2.
@thanotos2004
2 жыл бұрын
What a great video!! One question I remains wondering: Does the FP consuming variance (e.g. Carian Retaliation) remain the same starting frame and parry frame after all FP is drained, or the two frame will return to that of a normal parry with respective shield?
@qwormuli77
2 жыл бұрын
That's a really good question, actually.
@evanpotter860
2 жыл бұрын
The fp drain only occurs when successfully parrying magic, so my guess would be you continue to have the superior parry window, but no longer get the carian sword phalanx
@thanotos2004
2 жыл бұрын
@@evanpotter860 that's my best hope also
@EmilKlingberg
2 жыл бұрын
Actually if you parry magic it wont parry a weapon, so if you are about to parry someone, but you are hit with a spell just before it will only parry the spell and not the weapon.
@bakdorz
2 жыл бұрын
Yo this is awesome! Can you also count the frames for Blood Hound Step, Quickstep, Dynast Finesse, and Vow of the Indomitable? This is an awesome tool!
@imnotchikao6317
2 жыл бұрын
Golden Parry’s reach is just mmmm. So tasty. Great for coop play, you will be able to parry the boss when it isn’t targeting you.
@DesTr069
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh no wonder my first crucible knight fight was so difficult. I was going for parry strategies, and I had regular parry on medium shield, which is tied for lowest number of parry frames (5). Oof
@slartybartfast1112
2 жыл бұрын
Beat him with a brass shield parrying. Took quite a while lol.
@ExplodingParrotChannel
2 ай бұрын
This actually helped a lot because I thought party frames started at the very first frame do my parries were never working before
@siriusmywaifu4043
2 ай бұрын
I never realized that parry could be put on curved swords. Thank you.
@mikkelnebelong6136
2 жыл бұрын
So in conclusion the best shield for parry is either a medium or small shield with golden parry or carian retaliation? Small shield if you care about the weight, otherwise medium shield since you get a better regular block?
@juliushall8499
2 жыл бұрын
brass shields with either golden parry or that carian retaliation and your set bruv
@mikkelnebelong6136
2 жыл бұрын
@@juliushall8499 absolutely, except I tend to go with fashion > stats (though a golden shield is pretty dope), and 16 str is a big ask too depending on build :)
@durkadur27
2 жыл бұрын
buckler parry still has a better hitbox and costs way less stamina
@kimjanek646
2 жыл бұрын
Parry timings are so broken again. Parry dagger? Useless. Medium shield and weapons? Garbage. Ashes of war? Broken. From pls fix. PS: Where is my two handing weapon parry? 😂
@combatrobot1443
2 жыл бұрын
Kinda weird that the alternate parries like Storm Wall and Carian Retaliation give both Small and Medium Shields the same parry frames, but it’s definitely good to know. Great video!
@Shvabicu
2 жыл бұрын
Oof, Carian Retaliation and Golden Parry on medium shields are better than the Buckler. Drop those bad boys on a Brass Shield and you got a mighty, versatile shield with great stability and the best parry in the game.
@yunyubaek
2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the small shield still gave an advantage. Now it's proven I'm dumb what to do with this +25 small shield...
@Shvabicu
2 жыл бұрын
@@yunyubaek I got Carian Retaliation on a Rickety Shield +24 for spell parries/Moonveil parries because that shield only weighs 1.0
@TheHamerer
2 жыл бұрын
I really felt like Carian retaliation was better than the medium shield standard. I didn't think it was even better than the small shields tho. Hopefully it doesn't get nerfed cuz I rely on it to fight crucible knights.
@ToastyTstdToast
2 жыл бұрын
The instakill pvp exploit should be fixed, but hopefully the parry itself is left alone
@Putrefax
2 жыл бұрын
@@ToastyTstdToast just get more vigor, and stop spamming easily parriable spells against a shield
@ToastyTstdToast
2 жыл бұрын
@@Putrefax i think you misread my comment bruh, i didn't want the parry changed, just the broken swords from the parry ash.
@llOzzll_
2 жыл бұрын
I parried so many people in duel today with medium shield and thought that I'm a parry god, Turned out that I just got a big help from using carian ash😂
@TotalWarriorLegends
2 жыл бұрын
Carian ash witch medion shield you use?
@llOzzll_
2 жыл бұрын
@@TotalWarriorLegends the one that banished knights have
@scruffydooferton8262
2 жыл бұрын
It's golden parry for anyone wondering
@just-mees
2 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert: its the one you're most comfortable with
@thegk-verse4216
2 жыл бұрын
So the parries ain't balanced for shit, making most straight up useless. Ok
@PaszerDye
2 жыл бұрын
So basically, the earlier the parry comes out, the easier it is to parry on reaction and the number of frames indicate your window, meaning a larger parry windows grant a more leeway for less precise parries. That said, bit of a shame they gutted weapon parries. Fist and claws don't seem to parry as good anymore, and curved sword parries too, though to a lesser degree. Not only did they nerf rapier parries, but they took away its sick-looking animation.
@speczs6003
2 жыл бұрын
i like how the all the parrys are just plain old parries, and then the curved sword parry just goes like ✨p a r r y✨💅
@kiwi3085
2 жыл бұрын
I mean tbf that parry and the buckler/dagger parry are probably the closest this game's gonna get to actual HEMA parrying lmao
@AJddfx
2 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, I put Carian Retaliation on the Brass Shield and went to go become a parry lord... However, parrying physical attacks with Carian Retaliation felt just as difficult as parrying physical attacks with the base medium shield parry. Is it possible that the code used in this video to display active parry frames displayed the spell parry frames as opposed to the physical attack parry frames, and that those two parry values are different?
@teddylyon1189
Жыл бұрын
I hate how this works, it just makes medium shields the best choice. I also hate how daggers are terrible parry tools despite them not being able to block
@Titelitury1
2 жыл бұрын
This is so complicated, why couldn't they just make everything equal like in ds1... man I miss ds1 parries :c
@sabbywins
2 жыл бұрын
Noticed that the Parrying Dagger wasn't included here. Traditionally, it's had a longer parrying window in Souls games. Is that not the case in Elden Ring?
@AngBata11
2 жыл бұрын
not the case. the parry it does is the same parry with the ash of war
@BigVEE
2 жыл бұрын
At one point a certain curved sword’s parry was tops. Not this time, clearly.
@Dile0303
2 жыл бұрын
ooh, OOOH! i watched this and finally noticed what was whrong with my golden parry. If you pay attention to the rigt foot when it turns from startup frames to parry frames, the timing of the little stepping motion is slightly different from the other ones. Another thing i noticed is the sound. the parry frams in Carian retaliation and golden vow start exactly when the sound plays. This info will definitely help me learn timing. Thanks!
@Antillar
2 жыл бұрын
Can you please do the frame count of Blasphemous Claw while parrying Maliketh?
@trikster22
2 жыл бұрын
I've been practicing parry on crucible knight at stormveil area, I can almost perfect parry him with my regular small parry shield, but I didn't know the carrian ashes have extra 3frames, same as with medium shield, ty for this info.
@usedcolouringbook8798
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe now this parry scrub can get good.
@ChinValdes1
2 жыл бұрын
Omg thank you so much for this. As a LS main in MH, I didn’t realize the parry window here in elden ring was different from the start of the parry animation. Thank you so much angbata 🙌
@buggacraft8488
2 ай бұрын
All I got out of this is carain parry, is the best?
@davidlai4246
2 ай бұрын
yeah basically
@alfscott11
2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the frame counts for the small shield DS1 parry
@CardboardBoxGod
2 жыл бұрын
They really need to give dagger parrying more options
@Gaunts3
2 жыл бұрын
What about recovery frames though? Are they similar between small and medium shields with the same skill equiped?
@chasesimmons3053
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that's Havok's channel art in the thumbnail
@AngBata11
2 жыл бұрын
it's now fixed. For some weird reason that channel art is in a list of wallpapers for the game.
@chasesimmons3053
2 жыл бұрын
Classy move, have my sub
@HavokYT
2 жыл бұрын
@@AngBata11 Appreciate the quick fix, have my sub too
@AngBata11
2 жыл бұрын
@@HavokYT oh hello there sir! Been a lurker since the for honor days. I'm star struck.
@theblackbaron4119
2 жыл бұрын
What we learned is fromsoft never intended that people use their right hands to parry because the golden parry looks atrocious.
@hisholiness4537
2 жыл бұрын
So Carian Retaliation and Golden Parry are objectively superior.
@Sam-yr8ls
2 жыл бұрын
I only parry in elden ring, and have killed all the parryable bosses including double godskin duo solo with parry and riposte only no summons. For some reason I find the buckler is better, not sure if it's the hitbox or whatever, but if you parry a lot don't be surprised if you prefer buckler, for some weird reason it just seems waybmore consistent despite what this video shows 🤷♂️
@ArthaxtaDaVince777
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sam-yr8ls Buckler is to closest to DS3, therefore, people use to the old Parry system will like it more. I have tried golden parry and honestly it's terrible. Buckler Parry has about a 90% success rate for me, whereas golden Parry has barely 50%.
@Sam-yr8ls
2 жыл бұрын
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777 yes I agree. I'm sure active parry windows are better even though some places list them as worse, but I think maybe it's the parry hitbox is bigger with the buckler or something. Golden parry is definitely worse I just don't know how to quantify it 😆
@ArthaxtaDaVince777
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sam-yr8ls I think a big factor is the speed, the animation on the buckler seems to be faster than the others. They show it starts at frame 8, but it might be a bit sooner, but it maybe has less frame window.
@MisterK-YT
2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure that Buckler and Small Shield have the same number of parry frames. I’m pretty sure Buckler has more.
@alfscott11
2 жыл бұрын
can you make a tutorial on how to set this up with cheat engine?
@akapilka
4 ай бұрын
Imagine not me using the parry skill with a medium sword for more than 40 hours into the game. No wonder I thought this was ridiculously hard compared to Lies of P (which already has a very narrow parry window of 8 frames). Everything changed after I got the magic parry. Now I feel like I can parry even the golems (I know I can't), it's just so good and so easy.
@colorgreen8728
2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sad that there’s no katana parry
@thegk-verse4216
2 жыл бұрын
Yep idk why it wasn't with unsheath
@mikester112
2 жыл бұрын
Fairly certain the Katar is classified as a fist weapon and not a claw.
@AngBata11
2 жыл бұрын
my bad. ill prolly just put that at pinned once i get to the pc and just say if there is any difference.
@inactiveskar1
2 жыл бұрын
they rly butchered the caestus and dagger parry, very unfortunate cause those are by far the most stylish and risky to do
@ArthaxtaDaVince777
2 жыл бұрын
Once again, the stats don't add up. Buckler is consistently easier to Parry with than all other parries.
@Ixchel-d9s
3 ай бұрын
What about the new weapons for the DLC? Theres a dagger (Main-gauche) and also new shields.
@dawbz6257
Ай бұрын
Any chance we get an updated version for 1.12? Patch notes indicate parry windows changed a lot but I can't find any good research on it.
@jamols09
2 жыл бұрын
TBH I DONT fucking understand a single fucking explanation but thank you anyway!
@knowwork9
2 жыл бұрын
What frame means? How much Fps cost when we use these shields right??
@austinjt4264
2 жыл бұрын
Gold Parry is actually quite confuse due its special effect. I was unable to see if the enemies were actually been parried or not. I stop using it after a while... and seeing how suck the parry actually is... I stop parry all together. Don't get me wrong... it cool to be able to parry Bosses & Strong enemies... problem is... each parry frame per each attack is different... So you'll have to remember every style of boss & their attacks which is kind of a waste of time for me to learn. Beat them one & be done with it. I would rate Sekiro's Parry 10 and Elden Ring's Parry 0.5
@thechosenflutterbox
2 жыл бұрын
You should check if there's a difference between mainhand and offhand parries, like with dark souls 3
@psychodad4434
2 жыл бұрын
So the best overall setup is Golden on a medium shield with 100 physical, right? Even if you miss your parry, you block?
@-Cheif
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. It’s been so damn annoying trying to find any of this information online since it’s so frigging inconsistent.
@Ronar222
2 жыл бұрын
Could you confirm whether or not the frames are different in the left hand where most people use the shield? I think in past games, parry frames were better in right hand than left. I was especially surprised that you can make a parry shield that has better frames than the buckler out of medium shields.
@GodFootDaddyG
2 жыл бұрын
I was just about to type this. If an estoc attack is faster off-hand, shields should also be affected by this like they are on DS3.
@Tielha
2 жыл бұрын
Someone please confirm
@RandoomDude
2 ай бұрын
I downloaded cheat engine to get the marked s but it still doesn't work for parry's just dodge rolls how did you do it?
@kirbyfan3000
2 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen the video yet but I wonder if I can use buckler with golden parry lol. But I'm assuming it's not. My prediction is small shield with golden parry is best.
@-sleepy-
2 жыл бұрын
Haha, wow. This is completely different from what I saw everyone guessing or claiming in various videos and comments. Can't trust anything anyone says, even the popular channels.
@clowm5779
2 жыл бұрын
Why is nobody using carian retaliation? Like yes, it's easier to use Golden parry because of the longer Range but Golden parry can't parry Magic projectiles. If youre a skilled parry god You can essentially stop Magic users in their tracks with carian retaliation.
@MasterofLaziness
2 жыл бұрын
Without ash, buckler is fastest, and active time is tied with small shield. With ash, Golden and Carian are clearly the best both for speed and active frames. Everything else is some sort of king parry nonsense, and I don't think they're worth using until you really get the hang of the timing.
@arkboi2145
2 жыл бұрын
So, I'm curious. Is Golden Parry (Parrying), Golden Retaliation (Block & Retaliate against any Sorcery/Incantation) or Vow of the Indomitable (Invincible) better/easier for most scenarios?
@zeddzorender6983
2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly useful, thx!
@WillyoOo14
2 жыл бұрын
Damn I really wish I could put golden parry on a curved sword. I just want that animation to be good haha. But, hey I’m up for the challenge.
@sincereflowers3218
2 жыл бұрын
Landed a dead angled curved sword parry on a bloody helice 2nd r1 (accidentally of course, I'm not God himself) and came here to see how ridiculous that was.
@ravenhedden875
2 жыл бұрын
Do all parry animations last the same number of frames? Not talking about the parry window for a critical hit follow up, talking about the overarching animation.
@fulltimeslackerii8229
Жыл бұрын
damn. i didn’t realize just how crap medium shields were for parry. definitely ditching them on my build.
@oreoex9392
Жыл бұрын
now wonder i've been failing at the crucible knight - ive been using a parry on a med shield with only 5 frames LOL, to think i nearly killed him this way. thank you so much, switched to a small shield and gonna toy with this ass hat now
@Phataku
2 жыл бұрын
The animations really are deceptive. I can land parries all day with the buckler, but I struggle with the Golden Parry.
@Karistonschannel
2 жыл бұрын
Tell you what, Golden Parry ruins any katana nerd's day. Especially those river of blood weebs.
@MajinKai01
2 жыл бұрын
If you are out of mana, and you use golden parry, will it just work as a normal parry?
@DTPandemonium
2 жыл бұрын
5 parry frames on normal medium shield parry and I play on ps4 with 30 fps so that's 2 frames if we round down. I thought I was bad lmao.
@AndrewDawnbringer
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this awesome data, but I just wanted to know which parry is the best, now I'm even more confused :D
@Pliskkenn
2 жыл бұрын
Fuck I use Golden Parry and I'm still shit. FUUUUUCK
@hospuk1714
2 жыл бұрын
It's sad that my two fav parry animations have garbage start frames, rip my parrying skills with bucklers and daggers
@dimitarstanchev1420
2 жыл бұрын
now this is good video! recently everyone is showing 1 ashes of war or 1 skill.. for 15 damn minutes before he actually explains something. Here we have it great. Short, with big variety and informational !
@KiraAotsuki
2 жыл бұрын
Wowww carian and golden parry actually being better than buckler makes me super happy actually
@CardboardBoxGod
2 жыл бұрын
To anyone curious about the dagger parries against actual players as I recently tested this with a friend, you have to be ‘late’ than usual with your parries for it to connect. I’ve done this back to back with the buckler and the dagger. To anyone still reading this and curious to why I went with the dagger (not parry dagger…) over all the other fancy parries is quite simple, you want to assume your invader or dueler (unless it’s that obvious…) knows a thing or two about parrying running in with a buckler makes it dead obvious on what your game plan is and you’ll just keep getting punished for those whiffs.
@Phantom-bh5ru
2 жыл бұрын
Wished curbed sword party was better… it’s just so fucking cool
@zaka555
2 ай бұрын
i want always parry boss, but i cant parry it, now i know what problem is. thank you this help me so much
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