Baba Ogunsaya you don't need to worry your self sir i have encountered with you twelve years ago when i want to get married from one of your church members wich is my beloveing wife till today Baba heaven is your goal Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of your faith what so ever any body said about you don't care about that is part of the challenges to promote you sir
@victoromosebio4726
20 минут бұрын
You have encounter with him but his now going astray, so is another man church or Pastor God command him to preach, you do is bind to the truth
@emdfadeyi
2 күн бұрын
I was born in Deeper Life, and I was very vocal in asking questions from the Youth church. Never for once was it taught that wearing this or that was a sin, though it was discouraged. The scriptures we are referred to stress the need for moderation. That's it. I believe there is a difference between the culture of an assembly, and what is a sin. I pray God help the body of Christ.
@isaacodunayoalabi8583
11 сағат бұрын
@@emdfadeyi Dear brother or sister, thank you for your bold confession. Why is Baba discouraging it for you while inviting others outside his church to minister to the youths at impact 2021 and other church activities? Are there double standards in making heaven?
@graceogunleye9911
4 сағат бұрын
F he discouraged us no problem but I have resolved in my mind that when I get to heaven I will ask Jesus to give me all the jewelries and I will put them on. 😂 If a man is sick of HIV or COVID and he is told to drink urine of a horse that he will be healed won't he take it? If we are okay not using jewelries, should it affect anybody?
@emdfadeyi
3 сағат бұрын
@@isaacodunayoalabi8583 There is something baffling to me in this discussion, we who it concerns are not complaining. It's because we know, we have been well taught, at least a lot of us, that what you wear is not the real issue and has no bearing with salvation. Pastor says God showed him a pattern for the Church, and that's what he follows through. He will not yield to pressure from anyone or anywhere to change what God has revealed to him. He fellowships with other believers because they are saved as well and are fellow believers. It's sad that many of you don't see the difference between consecrations and denial from sins, they are different. The use of jewelry is a question about our consecration in the terms of moderation. Is our non use condemning your use? Please don't feel intimidated. Neither do we see ourselves holy because of our non use. Pastor Kumuyi would rather teach the scriptures than make a sermon around people or such trivial matters such as wearing jewelry when people are in church to overcome sinful tendencies. We should focus on holiness and righteousness. Our stand on dressing is our stand, study the scriptures and be fully persuaded. Your persuasions should have to be in unanimity with others. There are much better things to do than to be arguing about what Deeper Life does or doesn't do. Abi when has not wearing jewelery like others become a sin? When?
@emdfadeyi
2 сағат бұрын
@@isaacodunayoalabi8583 It is not only about jewellery. We also do not use drums in service. Does that in any way condemn those who do? No. So, why make a fuss about irrelevant things? If we choose to use drums, na we choose to use am. It's not a big deal, after all it's not an issue about sinning. It's our culture, our way of doing things. Those who don't subscribe to it, we receive them as fellow believers as well, and you should receive us to. Is the church this jobless that we have time to be debating irrelevant matters? People are dying to sin and sicknesses. Should we not be jealous of better things? Should we not seek the power of God and bring the world to it's knees for Jesus. Let Deeper Life be doing crusade winning souls and demonstrating God's power in Rivers, another denomination doing the same in another state. Or a ministry doing charity in another, another ministry doing health outreaches, another giving out Scholarships, etc. Let's compete in doing good works and lifting up Jesus. All these debates should be for Jesus. There are Muslims questions that we should be answering, skeptics and atheists questions we need to be answering. How will wearing or not wearing jewelery win souls to Jesus? The church of God in Nigeria is running to 200 years in some years from now, we should have grown up. Ahhhhhhhh.
@emdfadeyi
2 сағат бұрын
@@isaacodunayoalabi8583 Wearing jewelery or not has nothing to do with making heaven. Is that what you are taught? Salvation and Holiness is what the scriptures teach with regards to making heaven. Jesus Christ is the access to enter heaven. Jesus only is our message in Deeper Life. Jesus only should be our message. That settles the question about heaven. Is that clear?
@mandahawolola4404
12 сағат бұрын
If there any thing Jesus warns any man of, it's the danger of hell fire. I think some pastors don't understand the significance of Christ warnings. I will by the grace of God do all within my capacity to avoid hell. Holiness can never never be too much except if it's not enough. Infact, perfecting it (holiness) in the fear of God is another level of demand by God. May we never be found wanting in Jesus' name.
@Oluwasheyijoslen
3 күн бұрын
Thank you sir for this clarification may the LORD continue to strengthen you, upholding you and more revelations for the people of the end time. More greese to your elbow sir.
@JoeMma-t4x
2 күн бұрын
GOD GAVE DADDY G.O. OF BPC THE GRACE TO SAY THINGS THE WAY IT IS. MY GOD IS GREAT.
@gbengaadeshina1458
3 күн бұрын
Thanks sir for this clarification. You make it easier for us to know your intentions
@charityosuji8530
Күн бұрын
Pastor please Sir, use this time of story telling to teach for Salvation and Evangelism. Many Souls are perishing in the world even in Nigeria our Country
@isaacodunayoalabi8583
10 сағат бұрын
@@charityosuji8530 It seems you are thinking narrowly sir. Leaving the myriads of souls in the church to perish in the darkness of ignorance and deceit isn't much more deadly than going out to preach to the perishing sinners to in turn, turn them to mere proselytes in the cloak of "holiness" and not with the true holiness that leads to heaven? I think it is much more of wisdom to leave the 99 outside first and pursue the lost 1 within the church and get them won one by one than to pursue the 100 outside and lose 1,000 altogether.
@adegbamigbeopeyemi449
2 күн бұрын
I like the clarification of the man of GOD I hope it will reduce the tension in the air, but still yet I know there are people that won't still get it, judging from some comments I read, nevertheless these are things of the spirit, say it till tomorrow they won't still get it cos they are not grounded not rooted in the scripture, man of GOD ride on sir, am behind you gidigba...
@augustinefehintolaademosu
2 күн бұрын
Talking about pastor Kumuyi has helped you to gain some recognition. Wow, a whole sermon dedicated to talking about Kumuyi and not about Christ. Are you sure that this is the leading of the Holy Spirit? And what value does that add to the spiritual life of your members? Are you not responsible for all the negative comments generated by your sermon?
@andrewoni197
15 сағат бұрын
You don't even need to talk about him, face your ministry and let him face his.
@isaacodunayoalabi8583
10 сағат бұрын
@@andrewoni197 Facing your ministry in deceit of the sheep sir?
@graceogunleye9911
4 сағат бұрын
This looks like a war zone😢
@samuelgbenga240
3 күн бұрын
Have read through a lot of comments that were not deeply thought about. Even pastor Kumuyi some are defending as once said that he will remove all those things he thought will make this members deeper in christ but notice they are not, that he will knock them off and present to the church the true church before he leaves. This sermon is only trying to point out those possible areas which are not clearly called sin or sinful but are part of the church practise today. I stand to be corrected, but still waiting for the verse if the bible that sets up marriage committee. Listening to a part of a message and drawing conclusion is a sign of lack of proper understanding of the whole conversation. One of the greatest thing the bible contains is to reveal the failures of his great man and woman of God. Let learn from this. A pure and holy church not that one modified my human doctrine is what will take us to heaven.
@philipolutayo3664
3 күн бұрын
I don't think you need to concentrate on WF Kumuyi all the time, the gospel of Christ should be uttermost in our sermon.
@damilolaomosebi4189
4 күн бұрын
Those condemning your message don't know what they are saying because from the message I heard you never slandered Pastor Kumuyi, keep doing the great things you are doing for the kingdom of God.
@victoromosebio4726
18 минут бұрын
Because you are bind and don't have ear to eat, is it another man church or Pastor a so call man of God should be preaching
@graceogunleye9911
3 сағат бұрын
Heaven is real oh. It is looking for consolace that makes people talk like this someone to acknowledge his grievances with all this things he talks about. I will advice that you believe what you want to believe and keep it to yourself. Don't bother if another person dont believe.
@ussyaigberadion7880
4 күн бұрын
I'm not a deepler life member, but you tactically slandered Pastor Kumuyi and DLBC.
@victoromosebio4726
16 минут бұрын
The man don't have message to preach again, I pray he recover from his backsliding state
@AdiroModupe
3 күн бұрын
Our God is great.
@princessking7054
2 күн бұрын
Above all preparing the members for heaven should be the core message of any pastor and not stories about what you think about other pastors.
@isaacodunayoalabi8583
10 сағат бұрын
@@princessking7054 What's a better way of truly preparing people for heavy than telling them the truth and not tactically hiding it from them?
@graceogunleye9911
4 сағат бұрын
@@isaacodunayoalabi8583is it the truth about the bible or the truth about Christ live on earth?
@danielkumaga1108
3 күн бұрын
When you have a disagreement with your father, you settle it personally not taking it (public) online Sir; I learnt this some months back personally. I did want to comment from your last message which I heard because I saw pastor Kumuyi in it. All you said last week was disagreement yes, but that doesn't mean pastor Kumuyi is wrong. Pastor Kumuyi's standard of holiness is on a different level that's why he follows scriptures like that. If you talk of ladies decking themselve with gold and stuffs, it may not be wrong, but it can lead many to worldliness and for the trousers, whether you say it's not a sin but to maintain holiness a good dress is much more better for ladies, as females who wear trousers tend to appear more sensual than those who wear dresses (now I said more, I don't mean all); so to maintain holiness, trousers is not expedient if I would go with your message, cause if you go to history, you'll discover that traditionally trousers have been seen as a male clothing for decades before the 2nd world war and industrial revolution when women started adopting it as men went to war; infact there was a time that women wearing trousers was considered a crime in America. Bible says if your right eye will cause you to fall, cut it off, and Paul said all things are lawful but not all things are expedient. By the way, I've never seen Dr. D.K. Olukoya's wife on trousers or earrings, same with daddy Adeboye's wife (though I don't know why redeem ladies don't like following her model), even pastor Enenche's wife too doesn't wear trousers, though she uses jewelry. I would advice you to focus on preaching Christ and him crucified than dwelling on Kumuyi's ministry, cause the things you did raise an eyebrow about, from his ministry is not capable of sending one to Hell fire.
@aminuphilip1841
2 күн бұрын
There's no crime in expressing one's conviction on any doctrine or personality as long as one's motive is pure and your stance is scriptural. Those who agree with you will follow you while others will go their way. That is inevitable. So put that behind you, face your minstry and move on.
@mandahawolola4404
13 сағат бұрын
Pastor Dr. W.F. Kumuyi to my mind is among the saints of God without a blemish. If all the doctrines of the Bible are obeyed as being taught by him, our nation would have known peace, tranquility and unprecedented progress. If this man of God listens to Pastor Makajuola's messages, especially, the one titled 'WERE AlASO" he will understand better how the church has gone into unholy 'marriage' with the world.
@VictorSolomon-f1j
3 күн бұрын
Please you people comment on this pastor message should patiently listen to his messages before starting to be saying nonsense or before you turn the truth upside down
@chineduchinakwe4739
3 күн бұрын
Sir, there must be a reason to now sound remorseful about your earlier message which i took time to listen to. I also realised that a Bible based Church ought to give messages with Bible references.
@funmibalogun8543
3 күн бұрын
Sir, I wish to give my opinion on this second message even though I can't listen to the full message due to my battery and possibly airtime. I thank you for your first message and clearification, I don't know you in person and I don't know your church location if not for the first and second message I saw online and I want to say that, it might be for some reasons known to God since you said you didn't prepare for this. Also, who knows if your message would have been misinterpreted if you don't mention pastor kumuyi from beginning. Many would have suggested that you side him for one reason or the other. Only you and God knows the reason and if there's any need for adjustment and correction, I kindly plead with you to do that immidiately to avoid Satan's strategy. Finally and if possible, let it be clear on what you are doing for the sake of heaven and God's glory and not because other pastors are doing same. Sir, don't be offended if my words seems dishonor and you can correct me as a father because I want to make heaven. Finally, pastor kumuyi is a respectable man of God in all honesty and I will never doubt it and if there's any pastor I love and understand, is pastor kumuyi. He may not reply you now because he doesn't love retaliation and disputing and this doesn't mean he hate or avoid you. Remain in his vineyard.
@mandahawolola4404
13 сағат бұрын
Why will baba W. F. Kumuyi at his age and ministry be drawn into a kind of boxing or wrestling ring by anyone ? Are there no more Bible messages to teach? Can we allow the Old man to enjoy his peace? He has gone a great mileage for the Lord in the work of the ministry. Those of you that have just started should brace up. Some pastor 's works are already burning in their very own eyes when the fire from heaven has not tested it. May we not labour and run in vain.
@damilolaomosebi4189
4 күн бұрын
The issue of jewelry and it's usage have driven potential children of God to the den of Satan called churches. If the issue of jewelry as a barricade is removed, people will appreciate the gospel and come into the light of God .
@olabisiogunmuyiwa8043
3 күн бұрын
Please sir, kindly hold on to your own believe
@oluwatosinapata5451
4 күн бұрын
Sir, this is not needed here. The man you speaking of is not even paying attention to this.
@augustinefehintolaademosu
2 күн бұрын
Thank you my brother. This pastor doesn't really know pastor Kumuyi as he claims. His criticism of pastor Kumuyi is just one out of millions of criticisms of Kumuyi. Thankfully pastor Kumuyi is never distracted by such ventures.
@NGOZICHUKWUALI
4 күн бұрын
Excuse sir, are you defending your self with this episode?
@kwatonupauladunjo
4 күн бұрын
The man of God does not care of all you have said about him
@VictorDayo
4 күн бұрын
🙏
@fetugaabosede5210
3 күн бұрын
How can you open your mouth and said wearing earrings is not sinful what about 1st Peter 3 vs 3 please be careful
@samuelgbenga240
3 күн бұрын
Smile, Would love to read where in the bible said wearing it is a sin?
@samuelbidemi654
3 күн бұрын
so if it is sinful, why would pastor kumuyi invite someone wearing it and his wife to come and preach for days on deeper life pupit?? why would he buy books writing by someone wearing jewelry, why would he listen to the sermon of the person that wears jewelry?? if jewelry is a sin??
@isaacodunayoalabi8583
3 күн бұрын
U are right sir.@@samuelbidemi654
@mandahawolola4404
13 сағат бұрын
Thank you my brother. It appears a lot has gone wrong with younger pastors of our time. How did Apostle Peter know that some people have eyes of adultery if not by their worldly appearance? Rev 2 gave the rotteness that are allowed by some pastors I.e. the Agels of the churches in Asian minor. Allowing Jazebel to teach and all sorts. What a common moralistic will not do are being harboured my diplomatic modern day preachers. May God have mercy.
@mediareservoir9155
3 күн бұрын
You don't have any apology because the doctrine is about Kumuyi. W.F. Kumuyi himself had realised and said he's going to overturn many things he initiated wrongfully before exiting. Bible truth is what you said and you're wasting too much time on the laws of Moses. How many of the doctrine has research church development like you did.
@davidhwebwatibibinu9004
4 күн бұрын
Good morning Sir Weldon, you are preaching the wrong message.preach Christ not to condemn someone Ministry
@samuelgbenga240
3 күн бұрын
Would like to know what your take is on the attitude of Jesus Christ to some doctrines while on earth?
@isaacodunayoalabi8583
3 күн бұрын
So Jesus' preaching against the attitudes, errors and the wrongs of the religious people of His days is a wrong message?
@graceogunleye9911
3 сағат бұрын
@@isaacodunayoalabi8583oh my God. Heaven is our goal ohh
@EuniceUgboh
4 күн бұрын
Pls you pastors should let this man be
@nathanielewerejohnson5872
3 күн бұрын
See u pastors in Nigeria are the problem to Christianity. Leave daddy kumuyi alone we all know what it stand for righteousness, if I may ask u what's ur stand.the the world of GOD not daddy kumuyi massage ,more over this daddy is bigger bigger than u,in ministry, education, anointing, age nd so on .tap from his grace.
@victoromosebio4726
15 минут бұрын
The man does not even stand for anything than preaching against another man and his church
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