I went to a shop to try out both. Making patches on the Hydrasynth is work, making patches on the Minifreak is fun - easy choice after actually trying them.
@shvrdavid
Ай бұрын
The Hydrasynth is very easy to make patches for, but it different than most synths as far as how you do it... And this is from someone that owns both of these.....
@helpmeiaminhell
11 күн бұрын
I agree I've owned both. No longer own my Hydra and i now own TWO Minifreaks.
@TOMLEW1S
Жыл бұрын
Have both - LOVE both.
@MaybeAnnatar
Жыл бұрын
It's kinda wild that they're both REALLY excellent sounding while also sounding very different.
@jameslowman5665
Жыл бұрын
BEAUTIFUL BOARDS. Both of them are awesome synths. I would love to see the Explorer Hydrasynth being midi controlled by the Osmose. 😊
@geekmastermind
Жыл бұрын
My Minifreak arrived last night; I haven't had a lot of time to play with it, yet, but just toying with presets and some basic filter tampering, I'm feeling a bit inspired. This hasn't happened in a looong time. I can't wait to get into the nuts and bolts. Once I'm pretty deepy into it, I'll be looking to pick up an ASM, because I love everything I've heard from those, as well.
@Observe-n-Learn
Жыл бұрын
If you just got it and haven't spent a lot of time with it, this qualifies you to make a video about it.
@bangersandmashism
7 ай бұрын
How's it going now?
@geekmastermind
7 ай бұрын
Still going great!
@ZoranImsiragic
Жыл бұрын
Hydrasynth is a monster!!! Amazing. ❤
@hooch8395
Жыл бұрын
both sound fantastic
@6pin66
Жыл бұрын
I get why Dan chose those patches , with headphones they all add about 30% depth of awesome . I'm torn , these are both amazing and well within my tax return :P You guys both did great in this video , but you didn't make my choice even a little bit easier .
@juanperezaure
Жыл бұрын
Most amazing helpful and most importantly fun reviews ever. Thanks!
@OswaldoVonSchnoobenstein
Жыл бұрын
I love my original Hydrasynth. It's just a really amazing synth. Together with a Deepmind 12 and Montage, all my albums use them, and usually on every track I create.
@moosemuseum1853
5 ай бұрын
I can't decide. So amazing! Both of them.
@kylethomas3477
Жыл бұрын
This battle was awesome!!
@dankeplace
Жыл бұрын
2 mates having some fun, nothing wrong with smiles on the dials. An Osmose on both would be great, for people starting out, I would suggest getting either, or both as they're diff synths. I had the HS and it just never fit into my mixes, not to say it cannot do what it can, cheapest PAT keybed synth out there too and runs on batteries. Thx boys.
@antgeeze7129
Жыл бұрын
This is exactly the video i was looking for about these two. answer,,I need both of these lying around❤
@jernaugurgeh451
3 ай бұрын
Are you referring to the synths or the blokes?
@DojoOfCool
Жыл бұрын
MiniFreak is really interesting to me like what I heard.
@day_changer
10 ай бұрын
Hydrasynth Explorer 🙌
@Sinesquares
Жыл бұрын
Dan’s fourth patch just sold a MiniFreak. 🤷🏻♂️🤤
@ICanFixThat2
Жыл бұрын
EPIC! love the vid! thanks guys... I got both (also HS DeLuxe 2.0). Only thing I can say some of us should be called the "cat lady" of the synths... whish I could have them ALL!
@BigBadBonzo
Жыл бұрын
This is the type of content I like to see!
@torbenanschau6641
Жыл бұрын
Is it just me? Everytime the Hydra plays I'm like...ok... each time the Minifreak hits, it's instantaneous WOW. I love the Poly AT but the sound? Each one in the Minifreak was just RIGHT
@JoseMonzon-nv7zj
2 ай бұрын
Woooow this is brilliant, just subscribed, amazing musicians really inspiring🖤
@brianshirley1731
Жыл бұрын
Love the series!
@GoodAfternoonDave
Жыл бұрын
the minifreak is all sweetspots that are easy to dial in for beginners. but the hydra is a real sound design monster that can sound as awful or sweet as you make it sound. the presets are based on presets of other synths to show you it's really a blank digital canvass to take in whatever direction you want
@krisrhodes5180
Жыл бұрын
"the minifreak is all sweetspots that are easy to dial in for beginners." You shut your mouth. You shut your filthy mouth. Okay goddammit you're right.
@LightboxX
Жыл бұрын
minifreak is super deep as well. it can be a preset machine for beginners, but's also a serious deep dive into an incredible amount of synth engines and filter/modulation algorithms with a surprisingly deep mod matrix. i think they're both impressive in terms of synthesis but the minifreak's approach and it's included vst are way more simple to get the most out of.
@williamshaneblyth
10 ай бұрын
Hydra is so simple those orange keys for every thing gets instant access
@fredinthemix
21 күн бұрын
Minifreak is also a sound design monster.. :)
@seanmatthews5279
Жыл бұрын
Came here trying to decide between the Explorer and Minilogue XD. Now I need all three of them - That Minifreak sounds amazing.
@llRoBoBinHoll
4 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that the synths are also played by two different musicians. The guest keyboard player plays some really tight rhythmic stuff and some very inspired harmonies. You cannot simply accredit everything about what you’re hearing to the synths.
@vmn1451
Жыл бұрын
We need More videos
@HOLLASOUNDS
Жыл бұрын
They are both very good small sythersizors, it's nice to have a small sythersizor just to pick up and mess around with. Minifreak being the newest in a line started with the Korg Microkorg, then Novation MiniNova and then a whole lot of them coming from multiple brands. Seems every brand is making sure to have a mini sythersizor on the market.
@PTMPTM
Жыл бұрын
I don't think the freak is really in the same lane as those two, it doesn't really do the same things
@ianmorton1799
Жыл бұрын
@@PTMPTM I'd certainly say it feels less like a toy. Though I also feel limited by it as well.
@randommcranderson5155
Жыл бұрын
The minifreak is not in a line with the microkorg or mininova - they are all very different synths.
@HOLLASOUNDS
Жыл бұрын
@@randommcranderson5155 All 3 are in the same market small mini key digital sythersizors.
@peterhanzo8230
Жыл бұрын
I would like to buy a synthesizer someday. I have listened to many types and for a long time my favorite was Korg Radias until I came across ASM Hydrasynth, which is a brighter version of Radias in my opinion. I wouldn't look down on Minifreak either, but Hydra has already wrapped its heads around me. Thanks for the duel.
@BongoBaggins
Жыл бұрын
Wait, 100k!!
@obshaky
Жыл бұрын
I want both so my approach will be to get the 49-key version of the Hydra with the poly aftertouch and the full-length ribbon controller that do Pitch , Mod and Theremin. THEN get the VST version of Minifreak and midi control it with the Hydra. I feel Pigments would be close to what a bigger freak might be but with enhanced controls so I expect it to have touch screens, more shortcut/dedicated buttons (or those m1, m2, m3 etc buttons to put your own macros) and deep integration with Arturia's excellent VST collection. ASM cut the price of the Hydra's by Black Friday and Arturia do VST sales like twice a year.
@MatsueMusic
Жыл бұрын
Neat approach. I would like to ask you a question: If for instance both instruments were arpeggiating and you wanted to control both their filter cut off in a live setting, how would you go about doing that?
@obshaky
Жыл бұрын
@@MatsueMusic Hi! In a live setting for both hardware and vst I'd have the Hydra and Freak sequenced and midi controlled by Ableton Push 2. Since the Hydra does not have a sequequencer and anyway I'd need Live for the Freak vst. Just midi both filters to a shift function in Push or perhaps both with a single knob or one or another to the Hydra ribbon controller at different para meters depending on track. Cheers!
@MatsueMusic
Жыл бұрын
@@obshaky Gotcha okay so there is still some common interface software/hardware. THank you :)
@Александр-ч2х1в
Жыл бұрын
It's interesting to listen again when to swap synthesizers
@getinge
Жыл бұрын
Love them both but Microfreak has the edge I think. And damn Dan Bingerz can play! (Not based on this video alone). Love Jack's playing as well 😁 Hoping Arturia will release a larger version of the "freak" series... kind of like their Polybrute, only in the freak series. Really loved the video where Jack hooked the minifreak up to the Osmose as well... Damn that sounded great.
@TwinCitiesOxygen
Жыл бұрын
Do you mean minifreak?
@getinge
Жыл бұрын
@@TwinCitiesOxygen Yupp... Had a brain fart. Still hoping for a 61 key version.
@thomp9054
Жыл бұрын
A series where you try to create similar patches or have to find specific style patches(scavenger hunt style) on each synth could be cool Would show strengths and weaknesses
@aaroncisco6966
Жыл бұрын
Dan’s Fifth Patch literally sounds like heaven
@espacemaxim
Жыл бұрын
Hydra love
@GGprods-o2x
Жыл бұрын
Twisted Electrons Mega FM vs the world of digital synths.
@mick3950
Жыл бұрын
Mini freak wins,but i will wait for the Maxi Freak ????
@CyberMunchies
5 ай бұрын
Dan must have been watching Matt Johnson from jamiraquai’s video on playing mini Moog bass on the keys 2:50
@LangleyNA
Жыл бұрын
3:10 to 4:30, thereabouts, had my throat in great pain the second and third times I rewatched. Humor! _Humor!_
@hristiangeorgiev5236
Жыл бұрын
The comment "Very useful!" made me LMAO.
@eeek143
Жыл бұрын
this category of synths are so good for people wanting a mobile setup
@giorgionieddu8343
6 ай бұрын
Hydrasynth firmware 2.0 forever..❤
@joelawes4095
2 ай бұрын
Is that an actual tune at 04:32?! Such a groove! I wanna learn it or listen to it if it's a real song!
@antgeeze7129
Жыл бұрын
Heaven in a box!!
@MosEisleySpacePort1138
Жыл бұрын
How do you avoid the Blade Titles patch on the Hydra? It’s almost impossible. I commend him for showing restraint. For that one and Sawpressive. As for MiniFreak, I thought its best patches were 4 and 5 here.
@randommcranderson5155
Жыл бұрын
honestly neither of these synths are well described by going through presets - they both have some good ones but they both can do so much better too. This is more about the sound design the oems paid for or did than the actual synths themselves.
@huli8557
7 ай бұрын
In the Minifreak, the workflow is faster
@Zwopper
Жыл бұрын
Looks like the display on the Arturia is great and easy to read! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@LARR1E
Жыл бұрын
were these presets or did you create the patches?
@cthulholmhastur5317
5 ай бұрын
I'd say the Minifreak is kicking all kinds of a$$! It has a fat, analog-y wet sound that I love.
@RealityShiftUK
5 ай бұрын
Thing is you can almost get there with the mini freak v but it would be nice to have hands on control
@antgeeze7129
Жыл бұрын
Good clean fun
@JamesBermingham
Жыл бұрын
It’s impossible to be monogamous to one synth. The more the better. My Hydrasynth understands. Minifreak incoming to the family v soon.
@nelsondjordjemijic1533
Жыл бұрын
How close is vst mini freak to hardware version ?
@dannymolns3573
Жыл бұрын
It's 1:1
@Goettel
Жыл бұрын
Losing the analog filters hurts, 1:0.8
@kendallcurtis7863
Жыл бұрын
Here's my big question: can the hydrasynth be used to make a patch like Dan's fourth (Flickers)? So many people say hydrasynth can be used to make emulate most other synths. If so, can it make flickers with all of its complexity? If it can, I'm sold. Because I bet there are a lot of patches on hydrasynth that minifreak can't make. Or am I wrong on this?
@benbutters89
Жыл бұрын
Any news on the 100k give away?
@julko28
Жыл бұрын
I guess we didn't win
@dankeplace
Жыл бұрын
yeah I won, I got a CS80, OB-X8, P10 and some other stuffs. Really good too as I converted them all to keytars, I'm the best. OK jokes aside, they will announce the winner in a vid or show a live draw, that's what I am assuming. Good luck.
@julko28
Жыл бұрын
@@dankeplace I was also joking. For me it is funny to even think about 100k give away i mean it is one in a 100k chance. All the winners will be informed and contacted via mail. And you should not expect that mail whatsoever because someone might get sad lol
@SuperEgido
9 ай бұрын
MiniFreak /// Hydrasynth
@RealityShiftUK
29 күн бұрын
Is it just me or does the first patch on the minifreak sounded a little bit like the sub 37 ? I can’t imagine recreating that on my hydrasynth explorer
@Motownisyourtown
6 ай бұрын
The Microfreak just sounds bigger, more experimental
@godot5082
3 ай бұрын
Maybe the analog filter of the Mf.
@danbocook
Жыл бұрын
Anyone know why the A60 Fretless ET preset on my Desktop Hydra sounds nothing like the Explorer preset??
@danbocook
Жыл бұрын
Odd, all my Desktop Hydra presets sounds not as good as the Explorer's Presets...same names...totally different
@GertBoers
Жыл бұрын
@@danbocook What firmware version are you on? (I believe it's System, last page.) The sounds from version 1.5.4 were improved on the previous versions. You might wanna upgrade the firmware. In case you didn't know, last week version 2.0 came out! And don't forget to backup your sounds first!
@danbocook
Жыл бұрын
Figured it out, weird glitch in the Hydra (somehow everything was being wobbly as if the mods were all out of control), restart fixed it
@danbocook
Жыл бұрын
@@GertBoers I'm, on 2.0 -- I just restarted the unit and it was fixed. Hard to explain, but essentially all lfo's and any looping envelopes were stuck at a high bpm making everything wobble and warble...it was horrible! Haha!
@GertBoers
Жыл бұрын
@@danbocook That sounds like a modwheel pushed all the way up. But on a Desktop... strange.
@infinityfight4394
Жыл бұрын
😮
@Denise.Taylorx88
8 ай бұрын
I'm... I'm getting both. lol
@johnnybregar
Жыл бұрын
Minifreak by a mile. So musical. Hydra has some of the stereotypical tones, but the Mini is juicy.
@juniorhuarachi2774
8 ай бұрын
Nop
@BritoWorx
Жыл бұрын
Both great machines but Hydrasynth takes the cake.
@Powhart
2 ай бұрын
Me coming into this video: I have a pretty good idea which one I want to get Me leaving this video: I have no freaking idea which one I want to get
@sinewaymusic
Ай бұрын
Your comment included "freak" but not "hydra" - perhaps that's a hint. 😊
@Powhart
Ай бұрын
@@sinewaymusichahaha xD well yeah, I’m more into MiniFreak xD
@sinewaymusic
Ай бұрын
@@Powhart Me too. I owned the Hydrasynth but didn't find it to be particularly inspiring to do sound design on. It's a little bit over the top. The Minifreak looks much more approachable and fun.
@Powhart
Ай бұрын
@@sinewaymusic have You tried Minifreak?
@sinewaymusic
Ай бұрын
@@Powhart I haven't, but (as my channel will show) I'm a big fan of the Syntakt and it shares similar ethoes around playfulness and breadth over depth where the focus is on the musicality and immediacy. I'm pretty sure I'd love the Minifreak. To be clear, I don't necessarily *need* a standalone synth because I have almost all synthesis I could ever need in the MPC Live 2, the Syntakt and the Push 3 Standalone, but sometimes I miss playing on real keys and there the Minifreak would be my first choice. Plus, it comes with the VST companion which means you can go from composing and sound design on the synth to producing and mixing in the DAW. The Hydrasynth can't do that.
@e-conrecords4665
Жыл бұрын
Both lovely synths but by every objective metric, the Hydrasynth is a deeper, more powerful synthesizer.
@Motownisyourtown
6 ай бұрын
It is, but for many that will be restrictive. The Arturia just seems easier to use and has it's own deepness which is easier to access. The Arturia sounds better in this video in any case.
@X22GJP
5 ай бұрын
Every? Bit bold, but let’s say you are right…that doesn’t make it better. Both can sound similar, but their interfaces are vastly different. The hydra is great for those who love getting into deep sound design, whereas the mini just invites you to tweak and have fun. Each unto their own.
@luisbarrera5740
5 ай бұрын
Laughs in Blofeld
@DjInfragio
4 ай бұрын
Hydrasynth wins, sounds better !
@asherett
2 ай бұрын
Please for the love of god remove the plastic on the minifreak screen :D
@Matthewsavant
7 ай бұрын
The hydrasynth blows the minifreak out of the water, hydrasynth is one of the most feature rich synths on the market, it even stands up against the virus ti. The freaks architecture is just based off of mutable instruments plaits while it’s very nice in its own right it’s very lacking
@Kevinjames0976
7 ай бұрын
That is a subjective statement, I have both they are 2 different synths that have a different approach on sound design. The Minifreak is really fun to sound design and having sequencer built in the minifreak is nice for creative live content. The macros that are assignable makes the minifreak great for live use. The Hydra other hand is not as intuitive and definitely not designed for live use. It has a very deep range of customization for sound design but not as enjoyable and can be very frustrating due to not have a true plugin editor software. The hydrasynth has a better poly aftertouch that stands out over most.
@MatsueMusic
Жыл бұрын
The patches chosen for the mini freak are not the best representation.
@TimbreTinkerer
6 ай бұрын
Is it only me or others also hear unpleasant harsh high frequencies in Minifreak, whereas Hydrasynth seems to be having more of an analog warm tone to some extent?
@Motownisyourtown
6 ай бұрын
I don't hear that at all
@SuperChaoticus
Жыл бұрын
Osmose is already a verb!
@matzer8846
Жыл бұрын
This is - another of many - cool video to show the progress and innovation in the rapidly evolving keyboard scene ... so much fun to watch The keyboard scene seems to be accepting new stuff/technology/invention quite well 👍 I evolved in a more traditional bass/guitar world with very little acceptance of new stuff We all know these "Gold Top only and a history correct amp too"-cork-sniffers and i truly h... em With money being an issue i started with a Volca and luckily came across the MicroFreak: an affordable tone and feature monster .,.. Much more affordable stuff seems to be in the pipeline: great time for keyboard newbees
@londreslush
11 ай бұрын
well it's a fun video and all that , but it's put me off buying a Hydrasynth ..
@LarryLobo
5 ай бұрын
Sound wise the Hydra is not even close to the Minifreak.
@X22GJP
4 ай бұрын
True, it’s leagues ahead! All joking aside, they both have their place, their relative strengths and their weaknesses. Depends what you are looking for. Personally I’d rather have the immediacy and intuitive nature of the Minifreak. They Hydra suffers from a cut down version of an already non intuitive interface, but it repays you with Poly AT and some incredible sounds if you put the time in. Mind you, just hook up a Poly AT MIDI controller to the MF and you get the best of both worlds.
@刘金婷-d9p
4 ай бұрын
no, i don't think so
@ВиталийБудько-ч2е
8 ай бұрын
Hydra is like 16 bit noizy vst from 2005. Meh
@Observe-n-Learn
Жыл бұрын
"Time better spent watching a "no talking" video of someone playing through the presets of each synth." Just sayin'.
@MosEisleySpacePort1138
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I hope people aren’t making decisions based on this video. It’s not representative of either synth. They’re also very different kinds of boards and could even complement each other.
@g3cd
Жыл бұрын
This is not an in-depth loopop review, this is entertaining. I love Jack for being Jack and not an Andrew Fisher wannabe.
@Observe-n-Learn
Жыл бұрын
@@g3cd I get it, but you gotta admit, they are just phoning it in. Just a little prep, please.
@HOLLASOUNDS
Жыл бұрын
It's just a fun video FFS it's not supposed to be a review, if you want reviews they have done reviews of both of these sythersizors.
@HOLLASOUNDS
Жыл бұрын
@@MosEisleySpacePort1138 Its just a bit of fun for KZitem, not supposed to be a serious review.
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