@@ChrislieGaming There are still a lot of weird random bugs in the game and hopefully our bug fishing friends will find more, for better and for worse.
@ChrislieGaming
2 ай бұрын
@@theokman399 i meant like all of the bugs shown regarding the DMGS
@corxiiifelinike2643
2 ай бұрын
So the true combo no longer works right?
@Garvey-vm3qt
Жыл бұрын
No way they missed offhand thrusting sword AGAIN. The exact same thing happened in ds3, never to be patched. Seriously unbelievable 😂
@shinren_
Жыл бұрын
I guess its intended if it happened in ds3 too xd
@Garvey-vm3qt
Жыл бұрын
@@shinren_ in ds3 it was a hitstun nerf that was overlooked. Offhand thrusting sword true comboed into everything up to a greataxe r1. This time it’s a poise damage nerf that was overlooked. Not to mention that a cleanrot r1 does roughly equivalent damage to a zwei when optimized 😂
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
@@Garvey-vm3qt infinite tracking too, cant be strafed. Honestly such a busted weapon
@shinren_
Жыл бұрын
@@Garvey-vm3qthaha ik its busted im just joking :P
@mustafayigitkartal4257
8 ай бұрын
@@Garvey-vm3qt no, estoc has the exact same hitstun mainhand or offhand. The only difference (besides the very minor change in range between the two due to a slight nuance in the animation) is the recovery window into mainhand attack. Offstoc has fewer recovery frames when a mainhand attack such as r1 or r2 is qued, and thus allows it to barely get a true combo like in the case of gaxes. It has nothing to do with hitstun, simply cancels faster into attacks (before you ask, its the same for cancelling into rolls or going back to neutral)
@kimlee6643
Жыл бұрын
The sword is way more magical than anyone could've guessed!
@marisa_nyaa
Жыл бұрын
One-handed greatswords always feel clumsy to me so I tend to always 2-hand. Thanks for highlighting the 1-handed gameplay for us~!
@khirek5335
Жыл бұрын
Bro good fkn video! Never seen or heard of you before, I only watch like 2 elden ring pvp youtubers but you seem chill and knowladgable, def gonna keep you on my radar!
@TheKaptainKombat
Жыл бұрын
Started playing in the colosseum shortly after 1.10 dropped and was using moonlight greatsword beforehand so I just brought it into pvp. No wonder I felt like I was doing better than I should’ve considering this is the first from soft game I’ve had the privilege of playing online
@Automaton_Sleeper_Agent
Жыл бұрын
I can't believe I actually fought you before finding your channel and was DESTROYED. Every video is a reminder of the legendary Golden Combatant, Rust Bucket.
@Sol-hm7ol
Жыл бұрын
having people poise the second r1 of a greatsword still feels bizarre so this is sick!
@Sol-hm7ol
Жыл бұрын
only from could bug one attack in three separate ways in a single update 😂
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
Fr though, lmao
@goloith
Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for showcasing this, I've tried really hard to make the DMGS work in PvP and glad to see now decent in PvP too.
@bananadoppiotm1088
Жыл бұрын
Friendship ended with Zweihander, my new friend is DMG (Dark Moon Greatsword). Thank you for the video
@noot_er
Жыл бұрын
Intro skit was absolutely peak 🕷
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
triggering my own arachnophobia for 3 hours of editing 💀 worth it
@PseudoNym13
Жыл бұрын
No wonder my Ludwig cosplay was destroying people left and right while even unoptimized
@Danexxy
Жыл бұрын
Its ranni's secret gift to the tarnished
@brynlds_er
Жыл бұрын
There is another (more inconsistent) true combo with one handed gs. Cr1 into throwing dagger headshot into 2nd r1. DMGS scales primarily with int, so you can also consider an offhand staff for sudo combos. Carian slicer and piercer are good mixup options and an offhand staff will also allow you easy access to phalanx.
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
2h cr1 into fan dagger works too, its very conditional though, elevation, opponent needs to be locked on, and your range to them. I covered it in a different video a while back. Its neat tech, thx for bringing it up. Agreed, spells work really well here, especially since you can dump a shit load into int
@chase_the_wrapper
Жыл бұрын
I was Magic Man! Good fights dude, I got you the second and third time we fought >:)
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
Nice! You were super fun to fight, ggs
@ni9274
Жыл бұрын
1h greatsword is one of the most fun moveset in the game, glad that you can still use it with pre patch poise
@AJD...
Жыл бұрын
you were with me all along, my guiding firefly (bug)
@stormtrooperjon9212
10 ай бұрын
I've played around a lot with the DMGS in pvp with an offhand cold Estoc with Impaling Thrust for the tons of greatshield users I see. But yeah, the parry on a katana is genius, I'll try that out :D
@Hura_the_Blessed
Жыл бұрын
Have you tried ordovis yet? The weaponart has alot of hidden values like fully charged it has a huge aoi thats bassically unrollabble and the ash itself isnt poiseable at all beside alot of other benefits
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
I havent tried it since the patch no. I do like it tho, really good range and that aow is super hard avoid since it anti airs
@captainwafflezs4799
Жыл бұрын
Offhand curved greatswords deal 135 poise damage for the entire R1 chain, so they also cannot be poised ever.
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
I had to go look this up, youre completely right, 137 poise damage on every offhand swing. Im gunna have to experiment with that a bit, thanks for the tip!
@Crowned_PvP
Жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying your vids man, you and I have such a similar focus with our playstyle. Because of that, I'd recommend you do some messing around with ornamental straight sword. its downsides compared to psss (shorter range, lower damage and no ash) is completely blown away by the superior moveset of the OSS. the block cancel alone can flip the moveset from being passive & reactionary to constantly sustained aggression with very subtle mixups. If you then consider having the amazing running r2 to deal with along with the regular psss jump attack spam with block cancel and r1 r1(2) keeping priority and r1 block r1(1) being a roll catch for free 50/50 mix, you'll realise that the OSS has a really unique place in the scale of ER's meta
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
Those are a really interesting weapon, i havent checked their changes post patch but their r2 was bugged prepatch and only did like 90 poise damage, so they might actually be usable now
@Crowned_PvP
Жыл бұрын
@@Rust_BKT the regular r2 is an amazing roll catch, the fully charged is pretty bad because they can roll out after the first flurry then get a free punish if they know how because you can roll cancel it
@iota-09
Жыл бұрын
also the JR1 is unique and honestly not that bad, increadibily fast, although mind you it does have some bit of recovery.
@iota-09
Жыл бұрын
@@Crowned_PvP then again you can also half charge it like the iron cleaver, it's not as good of an R2 imho but it does have its uses, especially given you can use it when 1-handing too as long as you buffed the weapon.
@Jarvice
9 ай бұрын
I wish this applied to all greatswords. I love using greatswords on pyro builds but it's so hard to win consistently.
@Sleepy_Sheepy
Жыл бұрын
Can you and striker do a podcast together. Lol amazing intro
@arcanaido6415
Жыл бұрын
I bet this was ranni's one-year of marriage gift to her tarnished
@Garvey-vm3qt
Жыл бұрын
Hey Rust, I ran into an impersonator of you in the arena! Duelist helm, beast champ armor, royal remains gauntlets, fire prelate greaves, and the Stitcher. His character name was Learnmore. Dude was a total scrub, too. Disconnected against a 2H spear 😂😂😂 I guess you’re getting popular if you’ve got clowns taking your likeness. Keep up the great content!
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
LOL, hate to see the DC man, thats unfort. I dunno, Im still very very small in the perspective of things, i think beat champ chest + duelist helm is just a really good fashion, i doubt im the only one who thinks so
@dragonslayer6000
Жыл бұрын
So i guess i will alter my dedicated arcane caster to make use of this fun, while it lasts. Thanks for this informative video!!
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
I doubt it will ever get patched. Unless they rework the whole system again. The fact that they havent touched offstoc since 1.10 has me doubtful
@iota-09
Жыл бұрын
@@Rust_BKT i mean there's been no main patch since 1.10 tho, maybe when the dlc comes out.
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
@@iota-09 since the games release, 1 handed heavy thrusting sword has been missing the window to attack with the left hand after performing a running r2. Tumblebuffing has been in since dark souls 1. Chain casting still works. Backstep aow swap still works. Yea. Theyre not patching this.
@iota-09
Жыл бұрын
looking at the frame data, R1 2 into dagger is true combo, just like r1 2->3, but does it true combo with anything else? isn't the recovery for left attack longer than for R1? what about R1 2 into R2? would it work on an R1 2 late hit + R2 early hit as that one uses the generic right attack cancel? ALSO also, theoretically, RR2 and R2 into dagger is true combo or at least phantom status proc too, correct? (or maybe just R2? as long as it isn't an early hit anyway)
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
Yea dagger is true as well, but no r2 doesnt work because the startup is so painfully long.
@iota-09
Жыл бұрын
@@Rust_BKT rip, but also thank god given that it's bugged... at least i still can true combo my ugs CR1 into cgsL1 and offhalberd poke :V
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
@@iota-09 bruh i still fall for that setup all the time. Cr1-l1 true combo into rr1 rollcatch
@iota-09
Жыл бұрын
@@Rust_BKT that or following up with something like golden land or WoD if you instead wanna keep them away, and if you go dex/fth zwei/gsgs, you can even use catch flame and bestial sling instead to combo(works surprisingly decently) altho i still like too much just slamming people who jump a bit too often into the ground with the RR2, funniest shit ever, it's much faster and with more range than it seems even 1-handed(just... make sure to not leave your back open)
@maett2494
Жыл бұрын
love your weapons maining showcase series, i was wondering if you have any intention on covering psgs because now it is still a very powerful setup but requires more thinking and playing around the possible counters your opponent might throw at you
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
Its on the table, but its a setup i havent spent hardly any time at all with. 2kat and ugs are similar to how it plays, but ugs video is the next one ill be doing, so psgs is a bit of a ways out
@maett2494
Жыл бұрын
@@Rust_BKT dw man, i'll wait and enjoy your content as always
@prawn1717
Жыл бұрын
Any reason you prefer dagger/TS over CS for your parry tool? I don't remember if there's any difference in frame data, but the CS parry looks great. Would be fun to have an actual reason to use it!
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
dagger gives me a better neutral against colossal swords, you can go for chip and roll out before they can attack, and its fast enough that if they panic roll the dagger, the greatsword will roll catch. ts can roll catch on reaction very reliably on 1st and 2nd poke with 109 poise damage, where cs is just slower, less range, doesnt have access to counter damage, and less poise damage on the second swing.
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
so it really has nothing to do with better or worse parry frames, but i want to actually use the offhand weapon and not just have it sitting there doing nothing,
@prawn1717
Жыл бұрын
@@Rust_BKT Fair enough, tyvm for the thorough response!
@recryption620
Жыл бұрын
😂 good stuff! Love your videos man I've learned sooo much from them
@sametekiz3709
Жыл бұрын
BEATIFULL VIDEO.THIS WILL LIT UP
@rabidcabbage7230
Жыл бұрын
great i was just maaking a battle mage with one handed moonlight and it's combos with the carian sword spells! Thanks!!! what do you think is the likelihood that this gets patched with the introduction of all the other bugs made with the dlc?
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
Literally no shot it gets patched. Fromsoft is super bad about patching these bugs. heavy thrusting sword still has bugged frame data thats been there since day 1. Chain casting still exists. Offstoc is still bugged. Its not game breaking like some other things either, so i say just have fun with it and call it a win
@rabidcabbage7230
Жыл бұрын
@@Rust_BKT Woohoo!!! It'll be a long time untill I get to play around with the build I made. Simply not enough time. I am glad I'll be able to play around this gimmick.
@rabidcabbage7230
Жыл бұрын
@@Rust_BKT 2 things, is there a poise list for all meta levels? For example 109 to poise offhand? I am not competent enough to search the entire poise damage list itself. Is there a elden ring build making discord? I enjoy making builds, and make builds much more often than I play the game. Due to this, I have little practical knowledge about pvp. I am not sure if I'm doing good damage for the level, or how much damage should I sacrifice into health.
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
@@rabidcabbage7230 i believe jeenine has a list on his channel. But i stick with 88 for 2h shir, 102 for 1h gs, 109 offztoc
@rabidcabbage7230
Жыл бұрын
@@Rust_BKT thanks!
@totalishnc
Жыл бұрын
the commentary. is a great addition
@letallettuce816
Жыл бұрын
Deadass need a tldr, big exam tomorrow
@igorp397
2 ай бұрын
ive been doing that since 2022, and use the same set as you hahah, u must've seen me, my nickname was The G( i just use turtle shield, rogier gloves and hat instead). I have always seen this sword as one of the best of the game and the best version of moonlight in all souls series.
@wyguy1712
6 ай бұрын
Is this still the case with the Darkmoon Greatsword?
@Nikanoru
Жыл бұрын
Oh this is about poise. Phew. I was worried you wanted to take my jellyfish enhanced zelda beams away >:(
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
Zelda beams 😂
@jmwalkthrough1034
8 ай бұрын
Is the bug still working? I've just started the game and the moonlight greatsword is a staple for my character every time I play. Would be nice to enjoy this on PvP while I still can
@Rust_BKT
8 ай бұрын
Yep
@jmwalkthrough1034
8 ай бұрын
@@Rust_BKTOHHHH, It was always there, my guiding Moonlight... Thanks for telling me, you've made my playthrough
@melchiah19
8 ай бұрын
There is reason this weapon is called the fromsoft sword or the sword of fromsoft lol. In every game it has some sort of uniqueness that everyone calls a bug or a glitch but at this point with as many games it is in I'm pretty sure it's intentional lol
@Rust_BKT
8 ай бұрын
Literally was an accident that occurred as a result of 1.10 patch. Several other weapons have similar bugs like this, some that occurred as a result of the patch, some that have been around since the origin of the game, where some attacks on certain weapons lack particular bits of frame data. But chainsaw glitch is clearly an intended mechanic, dont even @ me
@JINGCITRUSS
Жыл бұрын
Can also use the true combo using a shield instead of a dagger?
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
yea, offhand makes no difference in how you combo with the sword
@bliss6417
Жыл бұрын
My brother in christ class 3 stun on a 1h gs, just gotta wait for a dlc dagger that has class 2 stun on the first 2h r1 !!!!
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
Mmmmmmmmurky?
@bliss6417
Жыл бұрын
@@Rust_BKT As a still avid ds3 invader I could not help myself bringing up one of the biggest fuckups in fromsoft hitstuns lol
@Ikaridev
Жыл бұрын
Hey rust! How do you that reverse jump?
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
hold back, jump, then unlock. i have a short tutorial in this vid kzitem.info/news/bejne/2YOis3aXjqCSZqg
@GunZPhyszyijji
11 ай бұрын
Blood halice with dark moon aow on it is the best
@frankiefromky
Жыл бұрын
@harrisonliddle7078
3 ай бұрын
hello is this fixed in 1.12 and shadow of the erdtree?
@Rust_BKT
3 ай бұрын
nope, still borked, you can find my mention of it in the glitch video i made recently
@kam_3953
Жыл бұрын
Working as intended!
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
Game feature ✅
@Aro748
Жыл бұрын
What’s the optimal build for the Darkmoon greatsword at meta level?
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
honestly just push int to 60. RL 125 vagabond can run 60/10/29/16/13/60/9/7 to reach 739 1h. swap your hat for one that gives stats and you have a little more stats that you can play with, but id just dump anything extra into endurance or dex for access to swaps
@Sol-hm7ol
Жыл бұрын
@@Rust_BKT I believe prisoner start is more optimal for dmgs
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
@@Sol-hm7ol naw, prisoners wastes 3 levels compared to vagabond
@Sol-hm7ol
Жыл бұрын
@@Rust_BKT my bad
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
dont apologize, its a good assumption. but if you ever wanna look and mess around with stats, heres a site that was made by a member of the community where you can build craft really easilty er-inventory.nyasu.business/
@dragonslayer6000
Жыл бұрын
Slow walkers in this game give me redditor npc vibes lol
@MaXXssg
Жыл бұрын
Great video
@toma_1887
3 ай бұрын
Please tell me this is still calid post dlc 🔥
@Rust_BKT
3 ай бұрын
@@toma_1887 still works yep
@humanperson9443
Жыл бұрын
Always use protection
@wretchedingenue
Жыл бұрын
especially when strange blue women give you their big thick sword
@skywalkersbutido6375
Жыл бұрын
do you have to be unlocked for the combo to land?
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
Nope. Its super free
@Communistgun
Жыл бұрын
When are you gonna start playing ladders more? I wanna see you play in tournament
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
probably not for a while, i havent been practicing playing comp in a while, and honestly its a much different approach to how i play when im just running arenas. it would take alot of practice to get back into that again.
@folksyoxytocin
Жыл бұрын
Why do you backwards jump towards people?
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
Because its fun, and it lets me punish if they roll in
@folksyoxytocin
Жыл бұрын
@Rust_BKT I have a kinda shotty computer so I can't pvp eithout crazy lag. Is there any benefit to backwards jumping over normal jumping towards them? Or is it just like a visual mixup, they don't expect a jump attack from someone facing the other way or something?
@Bagginsess
Жыл бұрын
All I know is that Gugs chugs poise every swing, and thats the only weapon I use so Imma gonna chug away at your BS small blue sword because hyper armor.
@NorthWolf97
Жыл бұрын
Thats not a bug. Thats an Arachnid.
@Barebonesboyan
Жыл бұрын
good stuff as always rust
@codyritner3826
11 ай бұрын
Praying they don't fix this... this series has been in like every souls game and deserves unique buffs/usability... doesn't make it too OP either tbh.
@Rust_BKT
11 ай бұрын
I hope they give it to all the other greatswords tbh lol
@codyritner3826
11 ай бұрын
@@Rust_BKT same, greatswords should out poise other weapons on every swing other than great weapons obviously and not just on the first swing. It makes no sense that a dude swinging guts sword could be knocked off his swing by a dude with a nobles sword... unimmersive.
@strikerhutassa
Жыл бұрын
Hehe Sord
@Metaljonus
Жыл бұрын
Damn bugs!
@caiaphaskain6441
Жыл бұрын
Lmao this intro 😂
@RayhanKabir-o3v
10 ай бұрын
So is it still bugged or fixed?
@Rust_BKT
10 ай бұрын
No its still bugged
@RayhanKabir-o3v
10 ай бұрын
@@Rust_BKT Time to give devious back shots to the invaders 😈
@RipTronx
8 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s on purpose since it is a fucken franchise weapon
@Rust_BKT
8 ай бұрын
It is not on purpose, fromsoft just sucks at codin
@RipTronx
8 ай бұрын
@@Rust_BKT thats crazy, I was under the impression that some weapons just get away with certain shit just because.
@Rust_BKT
8 ай бұрын
@@RipTronx naw, a bunch of weapons have alot of weird and rather obvious mistakes, likes bits of missing frame data, quick fixes that cause input drops, and numbers that were very clearly a typo
@IDKPLSBRO
10 ай бұрын
What is urs level
@Rust_BKT
10 ай бұрын
Its over 9000
@IDKPLSBRO
10 ай бұрын
@@Rust_BKT 😢
@Rust_BKT
10 ай бұрын
@@IDKPLSBRO 125, i pretty much always just stick to meta lvl
@definitelychris3796
3 ай бұрын
Is this still viable?
@Rust_BKT
3 ай бұрын
yes
@swifty5592
11 ай бұрын
Koop the 🐐
@AwakeAgainAtLast
Жыл бұрын
Elden ring pvp movement is the ugliest thing to watch. All this jankiness just for a slight advantage? Disgusting
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
WHAT!? how dare you, my movement is very pretty. take that back 🤣
@GrouseMan14
Жыл бұрын
cant wait for even more r1 spamming mages!!! thank you rust, for losing my mind for me
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
Id rather them swing the sword than run away tbh
@GrouseMan14
Жыл бұрын
@@Rust_BKT ok fair a swingy mage is better than a shooty one
@samyt681
Жыл бұрын
I cant even read the opponent name, watch your recording settings, the video does really looks horrible, apart from that great guide.
@Rust_BKT
Жыл бұрын
Thats just how it looks for me. I play on a laptop LMAO
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