Patreon vs Buy Me a Coffee: kzitem.info/news/bejne/sYKp2Wh_nJd-YI4
@higurashianduminekoconnect1702
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but some KZitemrs use it to literally just to get the cash grab. Some KZitemrs literally will put a video that should be technically on the regular KZitem channel because I have a whole series on the KZitem channel. They will skip certain videos of that set series and say to view this episode you have to have a patreon. I'm sorry but that makes no sense to me to me that's just trying to take advantage of the subscribers and pressure them. That's one of the reasons I unsubscribe from channels. I could see having bonus stuff but why should I stay subscribed to something that is already on the regular channel just cuz I want to see an episode they didn't show us. Also some of us regular people who don't make money off of KZitem and have jobs can't go putting in a subscription for a KZitem channel or patreon so why should we let them take advantage of us.
@higurashianduminekoconnect1702
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not against patreon in itself I'm against the KZitemrs that obviously take advantage of it to just take advantage of the money of the subscribers
@njorunmimisofficial
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to give my opinion on this matter as the comment really did open my thoughts. I absolutely agree, my suggestion towards Patreon or Memberships is to not restrict new videos or upcoming videos. As the Public videos are what brings in your revenue and likelyhood of exclusively giving content that only Patrons get to watch, Ultimately will not gain much of a fanbase when you restrict them from what you create. without a doubt it is a bad strategy and will not encourage people to buy your merch or get a Subscription if your examples or "Benefits" are poorly chosen. My Suggestion is, that you don't restrict your videos at all. What that does it takes away the viewing hours of your content and limit the amount of people that may potentially want to see a an entire series, But is Locked by a Paywall that only videos that are designated for them, Won't get enough revenue in the long run. Lastly, I just want to commend the video, I enjoyed it and it really did help see the light of what is suggested and opinions are soaring. Awesome Video Kevin Crowe, You've earned a Subscriber! :D
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
@@njorunmimisofficial Thank you!!
@njorunmimisofficial
Жыл бұрын
@@KevinCrowe Haha Your welcome!!
@3DJapan
2 ай бұрын
The benefit I see to memberships is that the Join button is right there, they don't have to go to another site or sign up for another site. They're already here and probably signed up.
@KevinCrowe
2 ай бұрын
@@3DJapan for sure a huge advantage
@Fotosynthesis858
2 жыл бұрын
Personally I can’t stand YT. They might as well change the name to “AdTube” because there are so many GD ads smh. It’s become insane the amount of ads they have & the frequency of them. YT has more ads than the Super Bowl half time show 🤦🏽♂️
@KevinCrowe
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem Premium will change your life. Best money spent.
@reqausxobi
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, a lot more people should have YT Premium. It is the most valuable video streaming service on the market. More valuable than Netflix, Disney+, HBO max, etc.
@mistyfisher9389
10 ай бұрын
@@reqausxobiyes KZitem premium is ABSOLUTELY wonderful !! NO ADS EVER!! BUT the creators still get thier money as if we was watching the ads ..
@danielmalinen6337
6 ай бұрын
Over the past year, many content creators have moved from KZitem to publish content on Patreon only and have abandoned KZitem or only use it to add their videos on Patreon. However, I don't have enough money to support as many as I used to be able to follow on KZitem. And because I had to pick and choose who I will follow now. First of all, I dropped those who ask for over 30-50 euros per month to get access to watch their videos and also those I followed on KZitem just for entertainment such as movie, paleontology and RPG content. At the moment, I only follow three content creators on Patreon and I pay a total of about 100 euros per month for access to videos, which is the same as the food budget of one person in Finland for a month and I have thought that it might still be too much for me.
@SuperMarioArya
2 ай бұрын
I think you can set it if someone becomes a member of your channel
@DonnaKatoArt
Жыл бұрын
I have watched many of these YT vs Patreon. You make the most sense. Thank you.
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@JMTechZ
7 ай бұрын
I like your point very clear if you are only on YT might has well keep everyone there and if you already everywhere Patreon/buy me a coffee / Ko-fi sounds good option too, but what if you can have your own website and build a community on your own platform :) so much things, but keeping it simple might work better... again love the straight answer we know and sometimes we feel bad about.
@KevinCrowe
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, if you’re doing community only, I really like Circle! Started using it a while back. Definitely a lot of options out there
@ThePoplarReport
2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful info in a concise fashion. Thanks.
@KevinCrowe
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad it helped
@MsTwiththeTea1980
Жыл бұрын
Great work on explaining 😊I currently have both and yes, KZitem does take a larger percentage but I enjoy both
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Vain-Voyager
Жыл бұрын
Hi! Two short questions here: 1. Is the KZitem membership audience free from commercials when watching those exclusive contents, given that they do not join the Premium scheme? 2. Patron allows KZitem embedded footages. Again, must the patrons watch commercials? What if creators do not embed KZitem, but directly use the Patron video function? Any difference? Thanks!
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Members still have to watch ads. Same thing for patrons. BUT… one thing you could do for members and patrons is upload a separate unlisted video and leave monetization off.
@BleepingWorld
6 ай бұрын
@@KevinCrowe Just cause you turn off monetization on a video does youtube really stop showing ads? because they still show ads on channels that are not even monetized yet
@KevinCrowe
6 ай бұрын
@@BleepingWorld I’m not sure, honestly. I think if you’re monetized, you have the ability to turn them off completely.
@dcfairwi
Жыл бұрын
Can you explain what happens to the members only Livestreams - are they saved? Does the watch time count? Can membera watch the video later if they miss the Livestream?
@spanishblueprints
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for talking about the difficult of deciding what to offer your audience. Especially if you have a Patreon account and Channel Memberships. This is something always on my mind when it comes to monetization. How different can this content be from my regular videos?? This video was great! Thank you.
@KevinCrowe
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it can be tough to balance and figure out!
@spanishblueprints
2 жыл бұрын
@@KevinCrowe what do you recommend for someone who has no idea where to even start for creating extra content on Patreon?
@KevinCrowe
2 жыл бұрын
@@spanishblueprints I have another video specifically about Patreon ideas that might help!
@Th3Watch3r
7 ай бұрын
Doesn't it seem subjective. In my humble opinion, it absolutely depends on the creator.
@KevinCrowe
7 ай бұрын
100%. Depends on what you’re trying to build and what your community wants.
@Th3Watch3r
7 ай бұрын
@@KevinCrowe i know I'm quite late to the party lol. I appreciate the Content tho my friend.
@LucasWorldTravel
Жыл бұрын
I really like the point you made about multiple platforms. I never thought of that. For that reason alone, it seems like Patreon will be the winner. Thanks!
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Glad the video helped!
@everydayincredible
2 жыл бұрын
Good info! I didn’t know anything about KZitem memberships yet at all.
@KevinCrowe
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think they’re cool, but if you have an audience in a lot of different places, they can complicate things. Just depends on the goals of the creator!
@everydayincredible
2 жыл бұрын
@@KevinCrowe makes sense
@SingingwithLauren
23 күн бұрын
Any updates on what you’re doing now?
@KevinCrowe
23 күн бұрын
@@SingingwithLauren I primarily make content on instagram now, so I do IG subscriptions and buy me a coffee for people to support what I do. I think the best thing a creator can do is have their own products/membership on a platform like Kajabi, though, if you have things you can offer.
@RebirthwithLaTonia
2 жыл бұрын
This is really helpful in my decision making. Jury still out but I'm closer.
@KevinCrowe
2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! I struggle with shiny object syndrome, so it’s hard for me to pick one thing and stick with it 😆
@NeneBlessing
7 ай бұрын
Very informative video , thanks
@GinasWorld1
Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this video. it helped me decide which to choose. I choose the KZitem membership and am working on setting it up now.
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you :)
@AmazeEject
Жыл бұрын
Quick question, can you give discord perks using the youtube membership or is that just on patreon?
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think discord integrates with KZitem, but you could put the discord invite in the members-only community feed and then manually assign roles within discord, I guess
@AmazeEject
Жыл бұрын
@@KevinCrowe Alright thanks.
@myfirstrodeo208
6 ай бұрын
You really helped me figure something out. Thanks.
@aishushainush4654
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. The message is understandable and educational.
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@michaelphillips7282
Жыл бұрын
@KevinCrowe: What if I wanted to make a series of instructional videos (say 10-12 videos) on a skill set and charge per video. What would you suggest?
@filipsaprkin
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin, great info.. And you kept it simple! 👍
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@FREEZA_AKA_MR_COOLA
3 ай бұрын
If Another content creator has a membership to your channel can they review your videos?
Жыл бұрын
Very usefull, and intresting point of view. Thank you 😉🙋♂🎣🦈
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@katehollomanart
Жыл бұрын
This was really good! Thank you!
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@TysaCrypto
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, bro! Very helpful.
@KevinCrowe
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@KevinCrowe
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like you’re getting some great traction on your vids! Congrats! Love the thumbnails
@TysaCrypto
2 жыл бұрын
@@KevinCrowe slowly but surely! Thanks man much appreciated! Do You have other channels?
@KevinCrowe
2 жыл бұрын
@@TysaCrypto yeah, I have a couple. One is a little over 2k and another I started in December but haven’t put enough time in. Only 321 subs right now but some videos have over 20k views. Gotta keep grinding haha
@TysaCrypto
2 жыл бұрын
@@KevinCrowe nice! Haha I hear ya. It’s definitely a grind
@ebayposhman
Жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏 got about 2k on YT and over 4K on IG , but that’s really the only 2 platforms I use, would you get both ?
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Both isn’t a bad idea, but it can split your focus and give your audience too many options. Do you livestream on KZitem or just do videos?
@Ehrenmann
Жыл бұрын
thank you
@AVThemgmtYouthBG
5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@iamthecrazybarber
Жыл бұрын
Good job Kevin. Thanks. God that there is automatic translation I want to learn how to use Patreon as a creator. I am learning the English language and it will be a challenge to communicate with the English-speaking community. I really don't know much about the tools. I want to run, but I'm just starting to walk. Greetings from Chile. Thanks Google translate.💪🏼
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Glad the video was helpful!
@mistyfisher9389
10 ай бұрын
Hey hun I got a question.. Is Patreon more lax on their rules than KZitem membership,when it comes to music, cursing, and also does Patreon have the same or more lax on KEY words than youtube is.. I know on youtube is is a horrible thing to mention words like KILL, MURDER, SEX OFFENDER, PORN, CHILD PORN and etc ... is Patreon the same or less lax on these things?
@KevinCrowe
10 ай бұрын
I’m not sure to be honest. I think they’re probably a *little* more lax, but it’s something to look into
@HORRIFYINGPERSON
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@blvdskino9363
Жыл бұрын
What other platform is out there other KZitem & Patreon???
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Some other options are buy me a coffee, ko-fi, and of course you could always host a membership on your own website
@TMVVisualMedia
Жыл бұрын
I followed some of your advice a few months back. Now I'm monetized! thanks for the advice.
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
That’s amazing! Congrats! I still plan on doing a channel review. I’ve just had a lot going on haha
@TMVVisualMedia
Жыл бұрын
@@KevinCrowe no worries. I'm working on several projects now that im monetized. 💪
@Marcos_Milla
5 ай бұрын
Fire video
@KevinCrowe
5 ай бұрын
Thanks, Marcos!
@Collectorsconfessions
11 ай бұрын
How do you handle posting exclusive videos for members on both platforms?
@KevinCrowe
11 ай бұрын
You could do an unlisted KZitem video that you put on Patreon and a link to it on a member-only community post on YT
@Collectorsconfessions
11 ай бұрын
@@KevinCrowe thank you
@lalit4788
Жыл бұрын
nice video buddy keep doing
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Theboxingobserver
Жыл бұрын
Can I implement/include exclusive content via both Patreon and my personal website?
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, definitely. You can do a membership site and put things behind a paywall
@Theboxingobserver
Жыл бұрын
@@KevinCrowe thanks bro
@coachbrian13
Жыл бұрын
Can you limit your patreons per tier ?? For example tier 1 limit to 50 patreons … tier 2 only 50 etc etc
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
Yep! You can set how many spots per tier
@coachbrian13
Жыл бұрын
@@KevinCrowe One last question... And It sorry it may sound stupid... Ok....i want to 2 start 2 channels..... One Real Estate and one Travel and Philanthropy. I want to monetize both.... do i need to create a second google account or can i set up both channels on one email account???
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
@@coachbrian13 you can set up both on the same gmail account!
@charliewilson3369
10 ай бұрын
get KZitem premium, atleast they don't keep asking for your money after you order
@famousamos
Жыл бұрын
I personally prefer Patreon.
@KevinCrowe
Жыл бұрын
I do, too
@psychiclounge
5 күн бұрын
I think Patreon has HACKED MY CHANNEL and locked it
@charliewilson3369
10 ай бұрын
KZitem is a million times better. patreon is a money pit.
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