The Paul Klamper can be disassembled and reassembled with ease. Just make sure you put the parts back the right way. If you put the parts in backwards, the bike accelerates when you hit the lever.
@davidbierbaum4881
2 жыл бұрын
I hate when that happens. I still remember when I accidentally ran my bike back into the storm door, because I accidentally put the tire on backwards...
@thebrowns5337
2 жыл бұрын
Only if you ride your bike forwards
@laurentdemaisonneuve4990
2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Paul Klamper accidently found the source of free unlimited energy.
@myscreen2urs
Жыл бұрын
Life hack🙃
@MrRedPony01
2 жыл бұрын
Just a note. Hardtail party uses them and loves them too. He took them down some crazy singletrack in Moab too.
@jeffandersen6233
2 жыл бұрын
I much appreciate your reviews for people who just want to enjoy the rise with as little fuss as needed. I'm so reminded of articles in Bicycling Magazine of the 1970s and articles by Frank Berto on low gearing, and fatter tires (the guy was far ahead of his time) to make cycling more enjoyable. Keep up the good work.
@MiguelGutierrez-yl1qs
2 жыл бұрын
I have Klampers on 2 of my gravel bikes, one of which is a MTB bikepacking rig. The Klampers are simply awesome! Easy to adjust, ample stopping power, and no hydraulic lines to worry about while far away. Modulation will come with practice.
@peterbedford2610
2 жыл бұрын
Been using BB7 for 4 years. Still work great. Zero complaints
@canyoneagle
2 жыл бұрын
I used BB7's for many years. Good brakes. Klampers are another league. I've been using the Pauls for 3 years now and there is no comparison.
@xxterribleone1899xx
2 жыл бұрын
Half the price
@thedownunderverse
Жыл бұрын
@@canyoneagle growtac equal
@davidcummings5826
2 жыл бұрын
Your original review helped push me in the direction of Klampers over Spyres. I ended up having them both but am disappointed with the Spyres and am in love with the Klampers. We have very similar use cases and I couldn’t agree more with your review. Well said!
@cesraihandary
2 жыл бұрын
Why? I have the spyres and I think it's great. Haven't got a hand on the klampers
@davidcummings5826
2 жыл бұрын
The Spyres’ adjustment does not hold. A week of hard use and they have to be readjusted. The need for a 3mm Allen key to move the pads is also a pain. Yes, Klampers require an Allen key to loosen the lock screw on one adjustment knob, but it isn’t required while adjusting. The process is way simpler and more reliable on Klampers. I just had to readjust my front Spyre and I have to insert the 3mm Allen key through the spokes - there’s no way to spin the wheel and slowly bring the pad in until you hear it touch the rotor, then back off. The process is spin, listen, stop, adjust, repeat. I like my pads as close as possible and this is a major PIA. I like the basic design of Spyres with BOTH pads having clamping action, but the adjustment system falls short. Klampers prove you don’t need both pads clamping.
@davidcummings5826
2 жыл бұрын
One more pain about the Spyres is that I find I have to “choke up” on the cable. The brake arm has to be pulled up the cable to get good lever feel for me. I could use the barrel adjuster, but I need so much adjustment that my barrel is all the way out. Never a problem with Klampers.
@JakeLuke308
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Russ. I have a friend with very little bike maintenance skills. He has Klampers on his Solace OM-2P. He's had it for a few months and has easily adjusted his own brakes. I have them on my not yet arrived Tanglefoot Hardtack. A beautiful rig with classic lines, why not a classic set of Paul's on it. Now for the big reason. Mechanical disc brakes are easily field adjusted and repaired. You can literally use a piece of barbed wire to fix them in a pinch. I hit my handlebars on a tree with hydraulics once and broke off the bleed valve in my rear brake. A friend had to respond to my plea for help by dropping his bike ahead of me and tackling me off the bike. On any bike you plan to ride for long distances without a bike shop nearby, mechanicals are the way to go. If you can swing them, Paul Klampers are the way to do it in style.
@davidlenneberg4303
2 жыл бұрын
Yes people do still ride Campagnolo you should try the Ekar 1x 13 group set which is brilliant 😊
@johnnydoe66
2 жыл бұрын
I have two sets of Paul Components Cross-Stop brakes, one "cheaper" and the other more mill work, titanium hardware. The finish of these 90's Era pre-V brake brakes are second to none, so I know PC parts are top notch. Steve of "Hardtail" swears by the Klampers and runs them literally on all his bikes, especially if he's building up a frame for review. He rides alot of Black rated trails in Sedona, so that's another testament to how good Klampers truly are.
@sdmedguy
2 жыл бұрын
I have the Klampers paired with PC Love levers and yokazuna cables on my flat bar fat touring rig. I rode TDT with a fully loaded rig and never had an issue. I got them after your first review actually, and have never regretted it. Now that we have snow and I'm running full fatbike, I think they're even better. I think the cable and lever combo matters more than BB7 or some other mechanicals out there. Quality, cheap, light - pick 2! USA small brand made and will last a lifetime...no brainer
@Likelybiking
2 жыл бұрын
Your first review is the reason I got them and I love them! I’ve had them almost a year now too. I have them on my All City Gorilla Monsoon, which I also got because of one of your videos, and they are great! Bomb proof and I feel like I can get good modulation from them too! Thanks Rus!
@thebrowns5337
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an awesome bike build just from the feame and brakes!
@Ray.J
2 жыл бұрын
Although brakes are for stopping, they also can be compared aesthetically. While boxy, the Klampers anodized finishes are quite attractive. So there's that.
@greggr1591
2 жыл бұрын
New PLP channel mantra: • Just Riding A Bike •
@lowpowermodelife
2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly timed video! I was researching these the other day and am definitely a fan of how easy they are to work on. Pricey yes, but can be worth it for the right rider I suppose. I would love to try these on my trail and packing rigs for two “different” situations.
@markfletcher4605
10 ай бұрын
I love the Klampers on my backcountry touring bike. They are very easy to adjust. I have never had any problems braking, including an immediate lock up I had to do during a group ride when someone cut right in front of me.
@johndef5075
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't buy these but I'll give Paul credit for his longevity. Hes been able to stay in business through all the ups and downs in the bike industry. I think 3 decades at least....
@thebrowns5337
2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing him in the early mtb magazines. His early products were always a thing of amazement for me and ths new ones are too. Keeps it simple while solving niggles other major brands would accept (and then they'd sell you an updated/new standard version later).
@ghostdog7306
Жыл бұрын
My old rim brakes have never lacked for stopping, power, even in the rain when pumped. I adjust them once every multiple years. The old stuff still works.
@jwhite3998
2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, Russ. I'm late to the party but my Klamper usage is a bit different so I offer this in case any weirdos (like me) want to try a similar setup! I am running a long pull klamper in front w/ an Avid SD7 v-brake in rear (w/ kool stop salmon pads), SD7 levers, Jagwire pro housing and a 160mm XTR rotor. This is on a 20+ year old steel hardtail frame that is one of my all-time favorites...use it regularly for xc singletrack as well as for shorter bikepacking trips. I've put this brake setup through the wringer during the last couple of years, including plenty of challenging dirt descents, and it's fantastic. Love the Klamper, easy to set up and just works. Easy pad adjustments on the fly. Far less fussy re setup and ongoing "maintenance" than other mechanical discs that I've experienced. And I like the ability to change out the arms for different lever pull (yes, I run Campy on my roadies, 10sp and 12sp). If one has the budget, Klampers are a great choice. The MUSA and non-disposable elements are nice, too.
@louspeed1
2 жыл бұрын
Loving that purple! I can see people buying these for the aesthetics first.
@furleyforever
2 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that these are made in the U.S. but I can't justify the price. Opted for the TRP Spyres and I'm happy with them. They lock up pretty nice and don't have any drag to speak of. Nice review!
@julian5883
Жыл бұрын
Spyre fan here...mate them to good quality compressionless housing and they work great in my book, and they CAN be stripped and serviced relatively simply...way cheaper and better looking than the Klampers, whats not to like?
@elnacho19
2 жыл бұрын
I would agree on the fact that the actuator lever arm is not the best. i also had route the front brake cable externally on my fork because of the same issue you had with your rear one. Aside from this problem I'm satisfied with them.
@herbertharris6406
2 жыл бұрын
I've been using Spykes for couple years. Spykes are NOT maintenance friendly - and the pad adjusting bolts constantly slip (loctite helps for only a little while). I really like the maintenance friendliness of the Klampers! Someone below commented on the fact that switching to hydros requires more than simply purchasing calipers so the cost comparison needs to take that into account - as I have been debating between Shimano XT hydros and the Klampers. The BIG issue with Sypkes is maintenance as water/grit egress into the bearings will happen and seize up the calipers. Now, there is a way to get to those bearings but it is a PITA and will result in gouging the caliper body to get the actuator arms off/on as one has to pry the arms off with a screw driver - and getting them back totally sucks. I've had to do this 3 times. In a nutshell - constant pad slippage and not designed for maintenance will have me replace them in the near future.
@johnbodenchuk514
2 жыл бұрын
My experience with Paul Components is, yes expensive but with replaceable part they will probably outlast me. The kind of parts I swap out before selling a bike. Buy quality, cry once.
@mattdunkin5368
2 жыл бұрын
Great comments on price considerations, longevity and country of origin should be a consideration. These should be factors!
@SebastianDeBeer
2 жыл бұрын
I have Klampers and Love Levers on my Surly Ogre which I use for bike packing. I love the simplicity and build quality of the brakes. I am more than happy to pay a little bit extra for a durable and really well made product. And they work effectively for my party pace style of riding. I am planning on fitting Paul’s QR skewers to my bike as well once I receive them. I ordered them in July 2021 through AVT and still waiting. Something to do with a delay in the supply of the skewer material due to COVID so understandable but the lack of a definite delivery date for my parts from the supplier would be my only negative comment re my experience with Paul Components so far.
@robertlombardo3247
Жыл бұрын
I have had a Klamper on my MTB fixed gear for 4 years. Never once adjusted it, replaced pads once and when we get wet and muddy the bikes with the hydraulics squeal like crazy but not the Klamper [okay maybe for 30sec]. I ride on wet and muddy New England single track. Best brake for me.
@matty1two3
2 жыл бұрын
One more thing to consider (sorry if you covered this, Russ, but I didn't catch it) is the cost of the brake lever/shifters that are required to complete the hyrdraulic brake setup. Ie, ultegra hyrdraulic calipers are ~$75, but the matching shift/brake levers cost 3x to 10x more than levers that work with klampers (which can be as cheap as a $5 parts bin mtb lever). All told, I think paul's brakes are the better value, and that's before adding something that is a HUGE value for me: supporting US workers and not a giant multinational corporation! I've used Klampers with Love Levers via SRAM brake housing on my MTB for years and will never look back. Also like the combo of TRP RRl levers and klamspkies using bc9000 housing (which compresses a lil but is so so buttery).
@slowwerthensnot
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent points on the compatibility with rotors and certain frame clearances! Love my klampers!
@jp93309
2 жыл бұрын
I think they look great on boutique (non-mass produced) bikes for that hipster flair. Also if I ever go the route of welding disc brake tabs on a nice vintage bike, I’d consider Klampers.
@herethere2518
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion too many people attribute factors to the brake mechanism, i.e., calipers and levers, that actually have more to do with the brake interface, i.e., pads and rotors. Brake power and modulation are interface issues more than anything, with rotor size/design/material and pad compound being the primary factors. Personally, I am a big fan of Swisstop pads with the standard compound being my fav. For rotors, lots of large vents makes for very aggressive braking/pad wear. The bigger the better for me in terms of diameter, but forks get spring-boing braking if rotors too large. Different alloys have different coefficients of friction. I find Jagwire rotors are the most affordable that perform well with good pads. Gaffer rotors are very aggressive in my experience and probably do best with semi-metallic/sintered.
@lukehendrickson3669
2 жыл бұрын
Dude. I love your content! Thank you and keep it up.
@davidide1525
Ай бұрын
Be careful, lots of us still ride Campy. And Campy still supports high end 12 speed all mechanical ;-)
@marcocabral4838
2 жыл бұрын
Those are made in my hometown of Chico, CA! The terrain of Chico is some tough mtb terrain! So these were definitely made to last! A lot of the custom mtb builders out here in NorCal use them. If I could afford them I’d definitely be buying a few too.
@nikveldkamp8630
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the differentiated review!
@ericpmoss
2 жыл бұрын
The thing that makes any cable brake better (for me) is compressionless housing. That used to mean Nokon, but it squeaks, is overpriced, and very hard to actually get. So I've switched to the JagWire segmented housing. It makes for both crisper shifting and braking. Coupled with Klampers, I count it as a win.
@tomf3713
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. I had my hydraulic brakes fail on a downhill mountain bike run. I’ll only use mechanical it’s simple. They work
@michaelmann6482
2 жыл бұрын
I also have them on 3 bikes. All built up by me with wheels I built. Paid for by me. I love them - they’ve spoiled me for any other disc brakes now.
@albert85b
2 жыл бұрын
Great to see this long-term review. Once you've spent a few hundred dollars replacing TRP callipers with seized pistons (which can't be serviced or replaced), and you're sick of the sponginess, the price of the PAUL KLAMPER starts to make sense.
@julian5883
Жыл бұрын
Not true...Spyres can be stripped down and serviced, I've done it many times!
@albert85b
Жыл бұрын
@@julian5883 TRP hy/rd can't be serviced.
@dreadsmusiclove
2 жыл бұрын
I love my klampers on my soma Wolverine! One thing I’d mention about them is their external width. If you don’t have a modern frame with the rear brake on the chain stay, the caliper can get in the way of rack mounts.
@alecfotsch3533
2 жыл бұрын
Braking power is absolutely everything, when you don't have enough. Once you have enough then modulation is everything.
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
This brake has enough.
@LoranBriggs
2 жыл бұрын
I always struggle getting a perfectly aligned caliper on the rotor. I think the dual adjustment would help there. Only being able to adjust one side means I have to loosen the caliper bolts and shift the entire caliper over to align the other pad. I imagine tightening both pads into the rotor to center, then backing off just enough for clearance is a breeze on these brakes.
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
You can adjust both pads.
@grantfator
2 жыл бұрын
Is there a disc brake system out there that has an extra wide clearance to specifically eliminate the rubbing??
@bradthomas3188
2 жыл бұрын
Understand your concerns on the HY/RDs but they have been great for me - replaced my spyres and couldn't be happier. Haven't touched them in 2 years and they still work great. I don't use them on mountains or long, steep declines though.
@30bones
2 жыл бұрын
Just got mine last night. Curious on your review. Everything I’ve read and watched has been positive.
@ziggypi4813
2 жыл бұрын
I think if they well made, well designed and last a long time , then price is justified. But would be fun to see a project farm type review of varying brake systems in contrast. Chico is home to Paul, Sierra Nevada brewing and 22reperformance. 3 home grown local cool ass businesses
@TheGotoGeek
2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s EnduroMTB that does laboratory level comparisons of brakes every year or so, but they only do hydros. A similar comparison of mechanical and hybrid brakes would be welcome, because there are large differences in brakes that just aren’t present in other components.
@chadmyles-theclevelandcyclist
2 жыл бұрын
I tend to prefer hydraulic because of the cold weather. If they can somehow design a cable actuated disc brake for the rear wheel where water cannot get into the housing and lock my brakes the Paul Klampers are something I would consider. I like the tool-less adjustability.
@ungarlinski7965
2 жыл бұрын
Are there any handlebar bags for cantilever brakes that strap to the bars and do not rely on a front rack? Maybe with a built-in derailleur or something?
@bentoomey15
2 жыл бұрын
Have you talked about that SONdelux you're using before?
@RicardoRocha-lg1xo
2 жыл бұрын
I would love a pair of Klampers for my disc road bike (currently running TRP Spyres). I just need a good excuse now hahah
@adventurearkansas9926
2 жыл бұрын
Seems like these are one of the only 'high fidelity' mechanical brakes left, because everyone that needs more power or lever feel uses hydros. There's a niche market for mechanical brakes but these are definitely a buy once and take from frame to frame sort of component. Yes they're expensive, but anyone who has owned low quality mech calipers in the past would probably be swayed after riding with the Klampers. For my money though, Shimano or SRAM hydraulic discs. Bleeding is a non-issue, IF the brakes stay on one frame.
@travcom
2 жыл бұрын
A few months on from the premier of this video, have you tried them with your bike loaded down, or maybe pulling a BOB style trailer??
@glu2yh
2 жыл бұрын
Would love to put them on my bike as well, but I think their body is too wide for tubus duo and logo racks. For rack compatibility I will use TRP Spyke with some Jagwire Pro cables.
@kitmichas6985
Жыл бұрын
Yes, Campagnolo is still a thing. You should check out Ekar for gravel.
@kelalamusic9258
2 жыл бұрын
I'll tell you what I like about the brakes, and that is COLOR. I love bright colors. Now if they could only do something with the drab colored bikes men seem to gravitate too. Every time I look for a new bike, I see nicely painted bikes for women, while most of the bikes for men are either black or bloody drab grey.
@jarifauti4586
2 жыл бұрын
Good Promo. Keep it up. most ppl don´t know why things are expensiv.
@HondoTrailside
20 күн бұрын
Is cost the issue it used to be? I went into our large neighbourhood bike shop a week ago, the kind of place that sold serious bikes but had a huge parts department, and even sold second hand skated during the winter. All they have now is 4K Specialized bikes, and up to 7K electric bikes. Meanwhile you can get a toyato tacoma second hand for 9K. Obviously electric bikes are a different use case, but from the look of the shop they are still after the high end bike buyer. It kinda has a kids of rich people vibe. These electrics are not being used by pizza delivery riders.
@I3ene1
Жыл бұрын
What i hate about them is the plastic barrel adjuster. I now know 2 people where on a descent the adjuster just melted leaving the break nearly useless. I don’t know why it isn’t just made from a metal
@mikesiemens4145
2 жыл бұрын
For Klamper money you can get a really nice set of hydro brakes that will just make your life easier. Now those who say that they can't risk a hydro failure in the backcountry, I say that's bollocks. I've been using hydro brakes since 2005 and survived the notoriously terrible Hayes Nine's without issue. I have blown a brake line once, and that was after crashing and continuing to ride the kinked hose for many months until it finally failed.
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
There’s lots of reasons to choose cables over hydraulics. Back country reliability is just one of them.
@JoshKablack
2 жыл бұрын
So, after a year, any sign of corrosion? I commute in a bunch of winter slop, and at that price point even slow corrosion would be a major concern for me.
@LoranBriggs
2 жыл бұрын
oh that's a good point, would like to know the answer as well. Cheap single speed may be ideal for that situation.
@adamdolling4531
2 жыл бұрын
I've been using them in the UK on nasty salty roads for 3 years and noticed no corrosion, even where I've scratched the anodising. I have rebuilt them 2 or 3 times using high quality calcium grease though, just as routine maintenance, and they perform exactly the same as when they were new.
@thisishowiedewitt76
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always been curious about the Paul Klemperer. I don’t own a drop bike bar yet, but I have several mountain bikes of varying sorts and they all have Shimano XT hydraulic disc brakes. For me XT’s have always been the gold standard for components and especially disc brakes. I have had my rear calipers fail a time or two, but it’s easily remedied with a brake bleed. I would like to try the Klampers on my rigid steel bikepacking bike, but I can’t justify the cost of them. New Paul Comp. brake levers, klampers and cables are probably $700+ right there. If I build another bike or end up with a bike that needs a brake upgrade I will definitely give them a try.
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
Buy the klampers and get cable Shimano or Tektro levers. No need to go full Paul for braking. The cable pull isn’t proprietary.
@aaronbanks3232
2 жыл бұрын
these along with Thompson stems brooks saddles and anything by Chris King are jewelry, nothing wrong with having a fancy bike, its fun. But not necessary
@rogercmerriman
2 жыл бұрын
I’m assuming it’s fairly dry where you are? My Gravel bike came with cable disks, which I found ate pads, at best of times a wet soggy ride you could end up having to adjust a few times, plus the wet got into the callipers generally around the pistons and trashed them so I did go though a few! So I gave up and got some hydraulics which being sealed system mud can’t get inside! Plus as someone who is MTBer and heavy. Ie I’m likely to rail corners and so on, and simply cable disks disk or rim just don’t have the power/control for use. Though I do get your use case ie if your riding is fairly chilled in a dry environment plus you swap out kit on your bike, hydraulic is not going to be your first choice!
@rileyharrington7618
2 жыл бұрын
I really do like disc brakes. Mechanical brakes are definitely more simple than hydraulic. I’m just not really sure about high end mechanical brakes. Especially if there aren’t any significant savings with regard to weight or increases in performance. For that kind of money, hydraulic with a bleed once a year makes a little more sense to me.
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
I switch handle bars and shifters a lot. Way easier with mechanical.
@leroyjohnson4774
2 жыл бұрын
Do these Klamper calipers have a spring tension adjustment like Avid bb7?
@mjscpr
2 жыл бұрын
Can anybody help me with the round cable crimps at the end of the brake cable? I actually own a pair but can't for the life of me figure out where they are from or what to search them by.
@ratman6417
2 жыл бұрын
With Mechanical Disc Brakes it's ALL about housing. The argument about modulation falls apart immediately when you consider that you can mix and match compressionless and coil quite easily. Even if you're just running one long length of housing It's not especially difficult to make a double-ended housing cap. Show me anyone who says mechanical brakes do not have enough modulation and I will show you someone who has not experimented with different housing and adjustments.
@andrewsiasparks
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never tried them. I’ve run avid BB5, formula and Hayes MX 4. I think all mechanical brakes have a very similar feel
@canyoneagle
2 жыл бұрын
BB7 is a significant step up from BB5, which (IME) are terrifyingly bad. Klampers are another realm entirely. Closest comparison for me (based on what I've owned and ridden) is XT 4-piston hydros. The Klampers with the Paul levers are another experience in the cable world. You can't really compare them to other mech brakes IMO
@andrewsiasparks
2 жыл бұрын
@@canyoneagle what I meant by mechanicals feeling similar is they go from very little grab to locking up without much modulation. I ride mostly DJ and free ride trails so I like a bit of modulation so I don’t feel jerked around. I’d give the klampers a shot but they’re super expensive especially to get them shipped to Canada
@phillipcowan1444
2 жыл бұрын
Which rotor do you prefer with these?
@Jason-qz2yr
2 жыл бұрын
I find spires aren't always set up well by people and that's why many find them spongy. And trade out the stock pads. Even the Shimano cheap pads are a big step up.
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they ship with crap pads. It shouldn't be up to the end user to know that and fix the problem.
@Jason-qz2yr
2 жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV also, cable housing management and trimming is key. Needs things super flush and good metal ends. Been meaning to write up how to do a good setup. Also the Swiss stop green pads make them quite good. A couple notches above stock and better than shimano base level.
@Hintonbro.
2 жыл бұрын
Per caliper cost: $221 PK vs $57 for TRP Spyre.
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
Spyres are meh IME esp with Shimano levers.
@johnathanmaxey118
2 жыл бұрын
I use Spyres with Tektro levers (gevenalle audax) and they stop very well. 160mm shimano rotors. I'm 130kg. If Spyres can stop me on descents, then they are impressive in my book. I think Russ should do another review but with Spyres paired with different levers on the same bike
@germaincousineau8608
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnathanmaxey118 I have the spyres with sram rival levers and regular cables,the stopping power and modulation is excellent. They feel just like my 105 rim brakes😉
@SpaceDjoxy
2 жыл бұрын
Klampers vs Yokozunas, in terms of stopping power? Because otherwise I guess you would choose Klampers due to lack of any kind of fluid. :) Also, do you use compressionless housing with Klampers and does it make a difference?
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
Paul recommends not using compressionless housing.
@tanhalt
2 жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV Interesting...did he say why not?
@jefftoonstra5087
2 жыл бұрын
I see why you didn’t recommend them for the Thunderhawk, I am waiting for a frame on back order,. Wishing I could have gotten the first version with external cable routing
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
@@tanhalt inner lining can add unnecessary friciton.
Love this! I got a pair of anodized purple back. What the experience of performance with Shimano vs Sram levers with the short pull lever on the caliper? From what I've been seeing online is there's a difference in the cable pull between Shimano & Sram brake levers. I am going to set these up with a pair of Sram levers. Let me know what your experiences have been
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
I have had no prob with them and SRAM levers.
@cuttingedgevintage
2 жыл бұрын
So... would you take the Paul Klampers over your Yokozuna's? have been debating which ones to purchase for a while now.
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@KarlHerr
2 жыл бұрын
This might be sacrilege but I recently got some long pull Paul Love Levers but I just couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger on the Klampers and opted for TRP Spykes. I know you mentioned preferring the Klampers to Spyres with Shimano levers, I'd be interested getting your take on Klampers vs Spykes with flat bar levers.
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
Flat bar Spykes and even Spyres perform great but suck with road levers.
@ewillia007
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting comment and timely! I also have the Spykes and have been debating whether to pull the trigger for the Loves
@KarlHerr
2 жыл бұрын
@@ewillia007I've yet to install the setup - pogies, freezing garage, and all that =-) My take was that I've never really seen a Spyke vs Klamper showdown, and it kind of makes me wonder why....... What levers are you currently using?
@KarlHerr
2 жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV Thanks for the feedback - I feel like I've had pretty good results on another bike with Spyres and Gevenalles with "roadish" levers. At least enough to replace my stock hydros on my Surly Ice Cream Truck with the Spykes. Time will tell if I have ever lasting lust of the Klampers or not =-)
@seanrequiredfieldcannotbel1362
2 жыл бұрын
I mean...for the price, shouldn't I grab some Shimano hydraulic calipers/brake levers? I think hydraulic's ease of actuation and great modulation is a cut above mechanical disc in most applications (all applications).
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on what you value.
@jalbrecht55
2 жыл бұрын
Curious if you’ve ever used Avid BB7’s and how these compare. They seem to be a similar design in principal; granted the Paul is a way nicer part but on the bike how’s the feel compare?
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
I think they brake better than bb7s, stock pads are better in the klampers and the pads are less fussy to replace.
@ioanbola
2 жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV that may be true...everything boils down to the price difference in the end klampers may be "better" but 10x times better?
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
@@ioanbola I address that in the video. Where it’s made makes a huge difference in price. If BB7s were made in the US they would be closer to the price of klamper than they are now.
@postridebeers
2 жыл бұрын
I get the reasoning of having mechanical disc for very long bikepacking trips or if you ride places that are very remote. Is there something else I’m missing? Otherwise, hydraulic is the way to go. Much better performance all around. A sealed system with virtually no adjustment needed.or cables to get gunked up.
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
If you change between drops and flat bars? If you run strange gearing setups that aren’t supported by road hydraulics? Etc.,
@postridebeers
2 жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV ahhh very true on different bar set ups. I guess I’m more of a drop bar on one bike, flat bar on another. These are definitely cool and like you and others have said, durability and ease of adjustment seem worth the money. Also a fan of the made in USA factor.
@davidbierbaum4881
2 жыл бұрын
I can hardly wait for the... braking news... on how these have done over time.
@chris1275cc
2 жыл бұрын
Go to your room and think about what you've done😑
@davidbierbaum4881
2 жыл бұрын
@@chris1275cc ... _I'm sorry_ ...
@keithhunter3910
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbierbaum4881 A second consequence to your poor choice...you will change the fluid in all my hydraulic brakes!
@heyo49
2 жыл бұрын
"Boxy but good" is that a Crazy People reference?
@michaelmann6482
2 жыл бұрын
Curious about Laura’s thoughts - she has Klampers on the Breadwinner right?
@jsr3793
2 жыл бұрын
The colors. My god the colors. It's like HR pufnstuf directed an In Living Color video.
@paulselka7410
Жыл бұрын
Brake and tire upgrades planned!
@anotheryoutuber_
2 жыл бұрын
nokon housing is pretty rad, ever try it?
@cegalleta
Жыл бұрын
how do they manage heat?
@thebrowns5337
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this - was wondering about long term views rather than initial thoughts, I love the looks, the build quality and the brand. I'd buy them in a heartbeat... if it wasn't for the price. I just don't have the spare cash for 2 calipers. What alternative mechanical/cable calipers are closr in terms of piwer, reliability but cost less for a cheapskate like me? I did consider the hy/rd - any good. Coming from mountain biking I saw my hydraulic calipers last a long time with no servicing (except pad change and an odd squirt of break cleaner now and then) so assume a cable actuated caliper with hydraulic piston would be the same?
@Jean-jk4zv
2 жыл бұрын
the hy/rd stopping power is way closer to a two pistons full hydro. I now use spyre callipers on gravel bikes and regret so much my hy/rd mounted on a gravel bike I have sold. i will go back to hybrid as soon as possible
@Steelrailbearing
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jean-jk4zv Would you say the hy/rd have more stopping power than these Paul Klampers? I've been running the hy/rd's for a long time with great success, but I'm looking for something lighter.
@Jean-jk4zv
2 жыл бұрын
@@Steelrailbearing never tried them but I suspect their stopping power to be less efficient than an hybrid hydraulic due to the nature of the mechanism.
@Steelrailbearing
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jean-jk4zv Thank you for the feedback. After some research, I'm staying with my hybrid/hydro. I've been running the same calipers trouble free since 2014. Contrary to what this video says, the hy/rd's are very serviceable.. I like the simplicity of these Pauls, but I'm not going to change something that has preformed rock solid (in harsh conditions) for over 80,000 km.
@charlesholland6851
Жыл бұрын
I just order one klamper for the front. People say for the money go hydraulic. Just sort brifters alone are $450 for the pair then ya got to buy the brakes. The klampers will drop in nicely on my bay a with mechanical disc brakes. No new brifter
@dianatheriault2913
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. You've reviewed many bike stuff, I wonder if you've heard of the pedalcell and if you have one?
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. No.
@donhuber9131
2 жыл бұрын
Please review Paul's cantilever brakes.
@edinelsonramirez5656
2 жыл бұрын
If my wheels lock up when I brake, does anyone really need better brakes? .....might need new tires though! :)
@fukawitribe
2 жыл бұрын
Yes... or learn to brake properly ;)
@andrewhamilton3486
2 жыл бұрын
Timely review. Thanks. Now tell me about the ritchey ascent.
@thomasduquet
2 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@bartmullin8018
2 жыл бұрын
Cool upmarket version of BB-7 brakes but, I'd be more curious if Paul Components made a hydraulic 4 piston answer to Hope's hydraulic 4 piston brakes. [Long mountain road descents are a shade faster and safer with a hydraulic 4 piston and one has more modulation/traction control using less effort; will stick with my SRAM Code R's unless SRAM does a Shimano and becomes a shadow of what they were quality and service-attitude wise. Shimano's gotten rather arrogant (esp. towards the bike-shops).
@merckxamillian
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm a huge fan. KISS principal
@vyr01
2 жыл бұрын
my 20+ year old v brakes work fine
@AlasdairSun
2 жыл бұрын
Love my klampers paired with Yokozuna compressionless housing. gives more more than enough stopping power and great feel too
@ioanbola
2 жыл бұрын
what about BB7 ?? super happy with my set and the price...uncomparable
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
They’re good for the price. I think the Paul’s stop a little better. Also I find replacing the pads on the BB7s really fiddly. Easy to not properly set the pads.
@ioanbola
2 жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV you are right! Doing the pad adjustments without tools is also hard on the fingers for sure!! If I had the budget, then Klampers for sure,!!
@glenzigdan
2 жыл бұрын
I would also klamp up all my rigs if I could, I like lifetime bike parts
@arcoulant87
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I ride Campagnolo.
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
You’re the last one :)
@arcoulant87
2 жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV I don't think so
@PathLessPedaledTV
2 жыл бұрын
@@arcoulant87 judging by the complete lack of any bikes specd with campy 🤷🏽♂️
@arcoulant87
2 жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV Campagnolo is for the more high end cyclist who likes quality and not for the great unwashed.
@lincolnlu9869
2 жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV I got a pair of these cuz they work with Campy mechanical. The are dozens of us out there!
@mediumrick7667
Жыл бұрын
Been running Spyres on my Salsa Fargo for years now. They suck IMO. I'd like to go with a set Klampers but the cheap bike rider in me is having a hard time coughing up the dough. Maybe though...
@DaedalusDesign
2 жыл бұрын
No. I'm not. Primarily for one of the reasons you provided. When attempting to use them they didn't pair well with the 2 piece rotors I wanted to use them with as they were also orange anodized. Rotor was hitting caliper body. That and I prefer the 2 sided braking of the Spyre's with Campagnolo. Using that combination for several years and hasn't failed me yet. And they're lighter than the Klampers. As well as costing a fair amount less. If they hadn't been orange and black I wouldn't have even thought to try them.
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