When I was 8 or 9, my dad gave me the job of crawling inside of the family TV to remove vacuum tubes to check for replacement. We would throw them into a paper bag and carry them to the local grocery store where there was a tube tester, a cabinet with plugs, dials and switches and a light that would measure the strength of each tube. Then, for about a dollar twenty-five, you could bring home a new tube to fix the set so you could watch an episode of Hogan’s Hero’s that night. The great thing about vacuum tubes was they were replaceable but the bad was that they generated enormous amounts of heat and used enough energy to blow the circuit breaker if the Christmas tree lights were on.
@volvo09
Жыл бұрын
I used to love staring at the vacuum tubes in the TV at night as a kid.
@PeterBee911
Жыл бұрын
That's a time that I didn't know but you gave me a huge shot of nostalgia, somehow.
@erik365365365
Жыл бұрын
What a wonderful anecdote!
@TWX1138
Жыл бұрын
And here I'd say that the bad thing about vacuum tubes was that they required regular servicing/replacement, when solid-state electronics using transistors and integrated circuits have lifetimes that far exceed them even with problems like capacitor failure.
@miganhawkins8390
Жыл бұрын
Much more simpler times. Tv sets designed to be fixed yourself unlike now. Mostly just junk but unfortunately needed.
@mgjk
Жыл бұрын
I used to work with a blind woman who enjoyed the sound of electrical interference while she used Jaws on her computer. It gave her a pleasant level of confidence that an invisible dialog from Norton or something didn't hijack her cursor and have her typing into oblivion. Of course tech support couldn't help her when she would say "well, it normally makes a whirr on this dialog box, but now it's going tick-tick-tick, I don't think I'm in the right window, and Jaws isn't telling me anything". That's when I would sometimes get involved. Tricky though, because she valued her independence and didn't want to disturb me, but I thought it was SO COOL how she used her computer and was fascinated to see how her computer betrayed her. Asking her if I could turn on her monitor to see what was happening always seemed funny to me.
@NJRoadfan
Жыл бұрын
Using audio interference to determine when a machine crashes is actually pretty common. My Apple IIgs is good for that. I also used it a few times during my tech years on various crappy shielded PCs. We had a FM radio in the shop that would go dead with some particularly poor shielded machines!
@nicholasjulianriley
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, the IIgs did the thing where when you pulled down a menu you'd get a different noise for each menu item. Didn't make the connection until you mentioned it!
@acomingextinction
Жыл бұрын
Having to turn on her monitor to see what was happening.... Yep. I totally agree, that is REALLY cool.
@MrDuncl
Жыл бұрын
When we were using CDC9766 mainframe disc drives I worked with a software engineer who could tell the progress of his software booting by watching the gentle vibrations of the drive as the heads moved.
@mycosys
Жыл бұрын
it would have been so cool to give her a lil speaker that made the monitor scan frequencies audible.
@aKuBiKu
Жыл бұрын
The fact that the tube itself doesn't glow at all makes me... Highly doubt if it's actually even used for anything or just a marketing gimmick.
@CHAOSMOVEMENT
Жыл бұрын
Same bro. Likely it's just for looks. 12AU7 are so cheap and plentiful it wouldn't surprise me at all.
@gigigigiontis8
Жыл бұрын
Also the lack of an output transformer... But it makes you wonder why they went through the trouble of building the 300VDC anode supply if the tube isn't used at all
@en0n126
Жыл бұрын
Even audio equipment with properly implemented tubes are largely a gimmick. It's audiophile meme stuff, like vinyl records also being supposedly superior, usually described using unquantifiable buzz words like "warm". Like Clint said "more pleasing analog distortion".
@se7vennld
Жыл бұрын
It glows , i have 2 of these. I disabled the led in one of them.
@Kreeschon
Жыл бұрын
the shroud being made of plastic should say all you need to know
@mfbfreak
Жыл бұрын
10:45 aaah the memories. Certain sound cards pick up a ton of RF noise produced by the motherboard. Tubes have a high input impedance, and therefore often very sensitive to such stuff. If there's no frequency range limitation (such as a capacitor between grid and capacitor) it will very happily amplify and sometimes "detect" (make audible) these spurious signals.
@jeremyerwin2779
Жыл бұрын
From what I remember, the analogue cable connecting my CD ROM to my sound card picked up a ton of noise. I ended up using a SPDIF connection out to a "dac/AC3 decoder". Not the greatest solution, as it meant that CD audio wasn't mixed in with the rest of the sound,.
@wiresmith2398
Жыл бұрын
Right? I actually kinda miss that failure mode. Haven't seen that in years since I moved the DAC out of the PC
@Renville80
Жыл бұрын
Back in my C64 days, if I turned up the volume on the monitor loud enough, it would actually have this high-pitched whine when I had the drive on and you could actually hear the data transfer between the drive and C64, and there was a noticeable difference between the normal way of loading and when a fast loader was present (the C64 game Spindizzy is one that had a built-in fast loader).
@GrizzLeeAdams
Жыл бұрын
Yep, the IRQ lines on the motherboards were basically unterminated antennas given only one card would be connected leaving decent length traces radiating the IRQs as RF. You would also get tons of noise from the harddrives loading down the powersupply.
@tehedx
Жыл бұрын
Isn't this mainly a power supply issue? Or rather a poor smoothing in this device? The amp shares the same power supply as the rest of the PC. Even tiny tasks like moving the mouse make the CPU draw more power, making the power line unstable in that matter. And yes, always when I saw that CDROM audio cable, take it out!
@SquirrelMonkeyCom
Жыл бұрын
10:56 - I want a internal personal computer geiger counter!
@RavenDaSergalOwO
Жыл бұрын
how radioactive is your PC?
@mycosys
Жыл бұрын
They make them for eurorack - would that do? 3u is 5.25in so they should fit perfectly with a lil ingenuity to make a rack, same +-12v and +5v power too
@nojuanatall3281
Жыл бұрын
There's a distortion pedal called the Geiger counter. You should check it out. It has a very unique sound.
@AKCFTW
2 ай бұрын
The crazy thing is… These actually exist.
@davidmcgill1000
Жыл бұрын
Had completely forgot about that electromagnetic interference from CRTs, but those distinct popping sounds brought back memories.
@mfbfreak
Жыл бұрын
Those aren't from the CRT, it's from data transmission within the computer itself. CRTs could produce some interference on nearby radios, but - at least in my experience - never had any impact on interference on audio devices. The other way round, i have had issues. Active speakers with big transformers could distort the colors on my screen due to magnetic deflection of the electron beam in the CRT.
@taben9jake
Жыл бұрын
Yep. I also remember how I could set my old cellphone near the computer and I would hear the buzzing sound letting me now I was getting a call before the ohone responded. I also had one of those blinky antennas laying on my shelf and it would flash by itself sometimes. Never found iut what was triggering it though
@techman2471
Жыл бұрын
We had an old Capehart and we it would breal down, my Dad would call the local repairman, Mr. Daggett. I was intrigued with electronics even then, and he would have me test the tubes right there at home. Such a warm giving gentleman and my love of electronics has been with me all of my life since. I have been an Electronics Tech for about 50 years and still going. Just that little push from a nice old repairman fixing an old vacuum tube TV with a single digit kid is a great gift for anyone to give.
@DisplacedGamers
Жыл бұрын
Dude - I love Oddware so much. It is still my favorite series on your channel. This Musketeer is quite interesting. For a device released around 2005 with that many electrolytics, I bet the sound quality would improve thanks to some replacement capacitors. It is possible it would reduce some of that system noise (noisy ISA bus and any questionable internal cabling aside). I doubt you would want to go to that much trouble with it as it is just a novelty. With some of those other tube-related products out there, I'll bet you could build a totally tubular machine. Thanks again for all of your hard work.
@MrWolfSnack
Жыл бұрын
the capacitors and diodes are not going to go bad in that short of a time period unless it was thrown in a damp shed or left outdoors for years. modern capacitors and electrolytics are built to a higher standard and degree of tolerance than the old ones. they won't just "decay" from time.
@Renville80
Жыл бұрын
I actually remember seeing one of these for sale in a local computer shop back in the 2000s - I picked the box up, looked it over, went "Huh! Okay..." and put it back on the shelf.
@atkelar
Жыл бұрын
I think you redsicovered the reason why all the old 8bit micros were packed into a shielding box :) I bet the "screen noise" that it picks up is some stray bus activity between the CPU and GPU...
@butre.
Жыл бұрын
nah I'm familiar with this. it's a ground loop
@adampope5107
Жыл бұрын
@@butre. A ground loop would be a constant bassy 60 Hz buzz wouldn't it?
@butre.
Жыл бұрын
@@adampope5107 nah that's a shielding problem. ground loops are a separate issue
@atkelar
Жыл бұрын
@@butre. the initial hum may be a grounding issue, yes, but the effect of "hearing" the start menu change on screen is certainly electromagnetic noise that is picked up by the tube, I am pretty sure about that.
@Tiptup300
Жыл бұрын
Could it be microphonic?
@retropuffer2986
Жыл бұрын
Vacuum Tubes with a name like "Musketeer". This product had Oddware written all over it! 😊
@LightTheUnicorn
Жыл бұрын
The VU meter bouncing around during Quake was most enjoyable. 😄 What a cool looking thing, even if it really has no utility. Perfect Oddware.
@communications23
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's the cool part. Analog moving thing that picks up when a digital picture moves? Freaky!
@MaxusR
Жыл бұрын
@@communications23 It's not about picture moves. When you move your mouse around the menus your computer has to do all the calculations to draw the menus. That's when it draws more power than in idle and that's when you can hear the power supply circuits try hard to power the components. It's usually the lack of filters in power circuits and sound card that makes the sounds to be loud enough to be heard.
@mycosys
Жыл бұрын
Its a staved plate valve distortion pedal
@communications23
Жыл бұрын
@@MaxusR I should have thought of that, it's kind of neat though.
@mcearlgrey
Жыл бұрын
You should install all three cooler master units into the same tower and route them through each other for maximum audio quality. That was obviously the manufacturer's intent
@jonathanellis6097
Жыл бұрын
This is what I miss about the 5" bays on cases, you could install useful things in them, and weird, wacky useless things as well, it was great!
@Adam-ln4og
Жыл бұрын
You can still buy cases with them. 😊 Yes, some of us dinosaurs still use optical drives.
@childofcascadia
Жыл бұрын
My Corsair carbide 300r tower thats only 5 years old has 2. I dont know what to put in them though (I dont have optical drives in this PC- they are in my older build), so I never bothered to remove the faceplates. Maybe I should go get some wacky "cool but useless stuff" to stick in there.
@f4u5t00
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, there is a revival of these wacky things for cases but unfortunately all proprietary.
@enginerdy
Жыл бұрын
Mine came with a cup holder!
@mtthyw
Жыл бұрын
I just bought a new case with 2 drive bays. Optical drive in one for sure, now I’m just looking to fill the second spot.
@mikebarillet8666
Жыл бұрын
In 2010 I spent an entire two weeks looking for one like it was a full time job! Such a cool thing.
@JohnVance
Жыл бұрын
LOL I understand entirely, this was primo 2010 material.
@victorisperfect
Жыл бұрын
I think putting that in a case with that weird drive bay CRT you did a video on a while back would look great. Not sure if it would have any practical usage but would look cool with all the amber.
@floatpvnk
Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@spladam3845
Жыл бұрын
"That doesn't sound good, but it sounds awesome" I love the cross noise that things makes, I find myself liking all the audio artifacts there, I want to record something just like the faint popping.
@warrenrexroad1172
Жыл бұрын
Man, I love these drive bay accessories! It would have been neat to hear you play a sine wave, maybe 440Hz, and just just slowly increase the volume until it starts clipping. You could also run your sound card into an external amp to really overdrive it and get some interesting results.
@Aquatarkus96
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a null test of this thing!
@Rutherford_Inchworm_III
Жыл бұрын
This is LGR, not LOOK MUM NO COMPUTER. Different genres of madman.
@andic6676
Жыл бұрын
I built a completely valve TRF radio last year from scratch to my own design using readily available eBay and other parts. I love it x it just sits there, playing away and it is a great link to our tech past... it's just a radio, nothing complicated and no, I don't need an account to use it nor does it collect my personal data!
@420bobby69
Жыл бұрын
Hi LGR!!! Discovered your content recently. Been loving going through your backlog, and oddware in particular. Glad to see you're still making them!
@SUCRA
Жыл бұрын
These Musketeer devices seem purely designed for kids in the early 2000s to make their case look in a certain way of the times. I had a musketeer 1, black, installed in my case for a while back then. I also had a single led fan in an red acrylic support in front that occupied 2 drive bays. A thing of passed, but I'm constantly looking for drive bay accessories now to try and reproduce some of the sillyness. This is one of those things, just fun. Thanks for another one, Clint.
@caerusdharken57
Жыл бұрын
I wanted that thing badly back in the day but in the pre internet days I was limited to what local stores had in store, which meant no luck for teen me.. after watching this video though.. seems like I didn't miss out on all that much in the end :)
@kaliban4758
Жыл бұрын
That noise when the computer first starts up is the crt powering up and running, watch how it mostly stops after the tube is fully powered
@AllboroLCD
Жыл бұрын
Never heard or seen in my life, never knew existed! The proper nomenclature for this type device would ultimately be "Tube Buffer Stage" or simply "Tube Preamp" . I got one as as kit for my HIfI rig, and can attest to it sounding very pleasing. Its well known amongst audiophiles alike that you generally wanna keep tubes away from noisy electronic components as they will act "microphonic" . You especially keep tubes away from computers! Very cool concept either way!
@mycosys
Жыл бұрын
its a starved plate saturation unit
@ZincSpray
Жыл бұрын
Usually the term "microphonic" is used of tubes that are going bad, and their internals pick up vibrations. Usual test with tube amps is to slightly hit the glass parts with a wooden pencil (or something similar), and if you hear the hit through the speakers, you should change the tube. But properly working tubes shouldn't do that.
@AllboroLCD
Жыл бұрын
@@ZincSpray Tubes will ring when you touch em, yes, but doesnt mean their going bad by any means. The sound quality will start to wain when theyre on the outs.
@0KylePrior0
Жыл бұрын
"I can hear myself dying in such a smooth warmth that I've never felt before." This is truly one of the sentences of all time.
@tmoss89
Жыл бұрын
As a music producer I’ll tell u what this is for .. this is the first phantom power .. this is worth alot of money in some circles it’s the first phantom power to turn crappy pianos into better sounding synths .. cheers man
@NinjaSushi2
Жыл бұрын
That pc and desktop with icons makes me miss the 90s. I never realized how great CRT monitors were or how awesome of keyboards we had. Also the speakers were actually worth a damn! Man we had it good back then..
@justsomedude5727
Жыл бұрын
As a musician/ "amateur audio engineer" there's all kinds of cheap tube stuff for that, usually doesnt do much or like you said actually kinda makes it worse. Maybe it would be fun to do a computer build with tube components or do one with all the most useless addons like the cupholder, cigarette lighter ect.
@penfold7800
Жыл бұрын
You would need a tower RAID server for ALL of the pointless components. Those things had at least 8 of the 5 1/4" drive bays on the front.
@davidinark
Жыл бұрын
The nest part of the whole thing was watching the VU meter peg out at max over and over while you were blasting the baddies. LOL That was worth the price of admission right there.
@HawaiianKong
Жыл бұрын
[speaker roars demonically] Subtitles on point
@adamsfusion
Жыл бұрын
Thermaltake absolutely beside themselves for not thinking of this first. RIP Thermaltake vacuum tube coffee heater.
@GuestZer0
Жыл бұрын
"Cooler Master" made me think it was an over the top way of preventing your PC from overheating. You ever see the ice water powered stuff?
@BrianFromBoise
Жыл бұрын
That company started out making heatsinks and fans. I used to have one for my old AMD CPU.
@wcarver2150
Жыл бұрын
That's a nice starter pack! But as we all know, to get internet, you need a whole SERIES of tubes.
@Teaneus
Жыл бұрын
Nice video Clint
@BuddhaPhi
Жыл бұрын
Awesome oddware! I thought the case looked familiar and I just realized that I've had the same Lian Li case since the early 2000s. They are super high-quality and built like literal tanks.
@hjalfi
Жыл бұрын
For a real test, try comparing the Musketeer with the direct audio from the sound card routed through about a metre of low-quality audio cables draped through the very noisy EM environment inside the case!
@Rock4896
Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw that you had to drape the audio in and out through the whole case I thought the same thing. Would have liked to see how it would sound outside of the case
@DreamGrandDragon
Жыл бұрын
I like the Vu meter hard drive lighting it kind of gives it an old analog feeling
@MrRom92DAW
Жыл бұрын
As an audiophile - anytime someone describes something as sounding “warm” I interpret that as just bad sound - rolled off highs and bloated undefined bass seem to be the “warm” flavor so many love, and yes, a lot of tube gear will get you there. High performance state of the art analog gear from the tail-end of the analog-only era, you know, as good as that stuff ever got… yeah, it was never tube, and it was never “warm”… pro-tip to all the vinyl lovers; moving coil cartridges weren’t in vogue at that time either ;)
@BellXllebMusic
Жыл бұрын
As a musician, using a low pass filter and a bass bump isn't that uncommon when making synth sounds
@rubiconnn
Жыл бұрын
I roll my eyes any time people praise analogue audio equipment. Analogue equipment is susceptible to interference.
@BellXllebMusic
Жыл бұрын
@@rubiconnn Yes, that's why musicians like it
@rileyyyyh
5 күн бұрын
you sound like you’re fun at parties. as a musician, tube amps sound better.
@MrRom92DAW
5 күн бұрын
@@rileyyyyh taste is subjective, I only point out that the fetishization of tube gear is a modern phenomenon. The goals of hi-fi reproduction of recordings are also different from those of a musician who is using their gear in a more creative context.
@anjachan
Жыл бұрын
speaking of sounds ... your voice sounds very good. KZitemr is the perfect job for you 😁
@LGR
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gruzzob
Жыл бұрын
The random noise you got when moving around menu items in Windows reminds me of the front audio on my old Antec 900 (v2) case. That was known for having the ground from the USB ports connected to the - on the headphone jack. What this meant in practice was that if you had the front USB connected then you would get load dependent noise on your headphones. There were two ways I knew of to fix it, the first being to disconnect the front USB from your motherboard. The second being to dig in to the black plastic and sever the ground link between the USB and front panel audio. I tried the second option, and instead of fixing the ground loop instead "fixed" the left channel in to not working :(
@SirFrag32
Жыл бұрын
I had the Musketeer II for YEARS. I loved the blue analog meters!
@draggonhedd
Жыл бұрын
That audio interference was common on that era of onboard audio too, so theres definitely some RF interference somewhere.
@baby333
Жыл бұрын
15:57 "I can hear myself dying, in such a .. smoooth warmth that I've never felt before. Mm.. such Analog quality" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL CLINT XD hahahha
@Kepe
Жыл бұрын
Ah, I've heard that weird noise on multiple different machines. Even on my current work laptop you can hear the mouse movements. Whatever signals are running through the motherboard cause interference with the sound circuitry and can be heard as faint noise through the laptop speakers. I also had this exact same issue with my previous sound card, Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS combined with whatever my last motherboard and CPU combo was which had a PCI slot.
@Aquatarkus96
Жыл бұрын
USB polling rates are well within the audio range (I think they top out at 1000hz), makes sense!
@Kepe
Жыл бұрын
@@Aquatarkus96 Yeah, actually Razer has one mouse which can do 8kHz polling and many others have 4kHz polling rate mice available.
@ThomasGorgolione
Жыл бұрын
That intro must have been interesting to film with the angle. It would have been like LGR was talking sitting down on an office chair at a tilt.
@hardlyworgen71
Жыл бұрын
AOpen also made the "AX4PE Tube G" a second-generation tube amplifier motherboard that supported 800Mhz FSB Pentium4 processors. Still using a derivative of the 845 chipset with single channel memory bus. The earlier board you show has the better amplifier though.
@kenjinks5465
Жыл бұрын
I haven't seen a video of yours in my feed for near two months thanks to the algorithm and I am subscribed. Just to let you know.
@justinthomas7222
Жыл бұрын
Looks cool, but as a guitarist, anytime I see gimmick tube stuff like this, I hafta say "show me the circuit & operating conditions!" Anyhoo, they could leave out the backlight for the tube & let the heater glow visibly. Which, on that closeup, there's no filament glow. So I wonder if the tube is doing anything at all & it's not all that complicated gizmotron stuff?
@CHAOSMOVEMENT
Жыл бұрын
Nice to see some others who know lol
@mfbfreak
Жыл бұрын
The heater does work, check the typical ECC8x filament flash at 08:56. The ends of the filament are uncoiled and not thermally connected to the cathode and light up brightly before the inrush current gets limited by the rest of the filament heating up. This is normal for these types of tube, but not for others. Because ECC8x tubes don't light up very brightly, you often find LEDs under/around them. If you look at them from the top or from the bottom, you can see a faint red dot (like from a tiny tiny cigarette) of the cathode cylinder. Mounted in this position, it'll be hard to see.
@CHAOSMOVEMENT
Жыл бұрын
@@mfbfreak Yeah you're right. Missed it because of the backlight. So being it's connected it's still probably starved for voltage lol
@makethingsbetter
Жыл бұрын
I know that this is going to sound a little odd. But as a watcher of youtube videos that show close up, high definition videos, I find it a very nice touch that you take great care of your nails. I am not sure you will see this, but if you do, thank you. If anyone else has thought about this, like my comment ;-)
@plecebomc
Жыл бұрын
That thing probably needs some power filter caps or an rf cage. It's pulling noise in a really harmonic way!
@joshuapettus6973
Жыл бұрын
Or it's those audio cables in the case acting like antenna.
@Aquatarkus96
Жыл бұрын
I also didn't really see any, but perhaps some are in there but have gone bad considering the capacitor plague? I would be shocked if it was that noisy when it was new
@rustkitty
Жыл бұрын
No insult to the tube lovers out there, but to me the whole concept just feels insane, like the audio equivalent of applying a film grain to your screen. I could see it with some niche dedicated device that you can turn on or off in a hi-fi setup, but for a general purpose and then-current PC?
@TheMadAfrican1
11 ай бұрын
"A new PC gadget reaching your soul" is one heck of a tag line.
@s8wc3
Жыл бұрын
I'm not a tube expert but from my understanding their little blurb at 1:50 is pretty accurate. The harmonics at which tubes and transistors distort at are weighted differently, and the harmonics that tubes distort at the most happen to be exactly an octave or two above the fundamental (intended frequency) so it can end up being pleasing rather than crunchy sounding. The thing is of course it's the distortion that's the difference so you have to purposefully overdrive the tube to really hear it. I've noticed PC powered audio stuff tends to have some kind of ground loop that picks up interference when fed audio from the same computer that's powering it. I bet the weird noises would go away if you plugged the audio from another computer into the Musketeer. Sure does defeat the purpose though...
@henryokeeffe5835
Жыл бұрын
To be more precise, the distortion that arises from most valve or tube topologies is even order harmonic distortion (2 times, 4 times, 6 times the fundamental frequency etc.) which sounds "warm" and not bad, compared to most of the distortion that you can get from (very poorly designed) semiconductor amplifiers which is odd order (3, 6 ,9 * the fundamental frequency.
@platimatic
Жыл бұрын
The VU-meter slamming to the Quake 3 id intro is so comical and funny to me 😂
@kopspijker3515
Жыл бұрын
That clicking and popping sound might possibly come from noise on the 12v rail's. Audio stuff require regulated power supply's and and noise will be amplified. The voltage might sag a little bit each time the processor needs to do something.
@4Wilko
Жыл бұрын
"Filters the accurate digital signal of sound to a much more harmonic output in a classical way" seemed to translate to digital flatulence through the speakers for a while there.
@mikefellhauer3350
Жыл бұрын
A decent tube device would mute the audio for a few seconds until the tube warms up. Probably your other tube amp does it.
@mkonji8522
Жыл бұрын
Was so curious what was up when you posted to twitter. Unique as all can be.
@erik365365365
Жыл бұрын
So what you need to do it put both recordings (with and without) then do a subtract between the two tracks. You’ll hear exactly what is added or removed!
@erik365365365
Жыл бұрын
Could even do it on blerbs
@birdbrain4445
Жыл бұрын
Was rewatching your video on the Thermaltake CircleFire earlier and thinking of your video on the Musketeer 2, just trying to remember who made it 'oh yeah, it was Cooler Master'. Any time I think of that video I also think about your mention of the Musketeer 3 because it just looked so cool (and indeed, it looks *really* good in your setup here.) Anyway yeah I fell asleep then wake up a few hours later and see this in my notifications. Was an equal mix of 'oh NICE' and 'wow what a coincidence', especially in my just-woken-up stupor where it was a bit trippy to see honestly lol. Great video as ever.
@rounakdutta6211
Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to try it with some guitar heavy music, vacuum tube amps are highly sought after in the guitar(ist) community. Note: I understand that in guitar signal chain the tube amps are used way differently than in the playback case, but I think it would still be interesting to try.
@LGR
Жыл бұрын
I’ve had it installed for about a week now playing wildly variant genres of music. Results are the same, if even less notable, with rock and metal.
@rounakdutta6211
Жыл бұрын
@@LGR Woah, didn't expect a reply. Been a fan of the channel from a long time. Thanks for the info. :-)
@racso20000
Жыл бұрын
Lgr, run an fm synth through it and crank up tha gain!!!
@racso20000
Жыл бұрын
Create raw sine wave bass destruction
@rounakdutta6211
Жыл бұрын
@@liquid_psyche Thanks!! Your thoughts/ statements, based on your professional experience made sense to me. I think tube amps color the guitar sound most in the overdrive mode, and also the transformers for impedance matching may have some effect on the tone, making tube-amps sound different overall from solid-state. In this case, in the absence of those factors (and probable operation at lower than rated voltage) the effect of tube amp is minimal.
@ArmyK9
Жыл бұрын
That is so steampunk-looking. Very cool.
@me2olive
Жыл бұрын
It might be worth trying a ground loop isolator between the soundcard output and the Musketeer input.
@MichaelEilers
Жыл бұрын
I know Clint intentionally doesn’t put in the usual full effort on these vids as they are more one-offs, but I have to say Oddware videos are still my favorite, partially due to the extra skepticism but also because I just never encountered any of this back in the day. I was a Mac guy, and our peripherals never morphed into the competitive bloodbath that made the PC case market produce so many weird products - just to catch someone’s eye as they read a magazine or walked down the aisles in Fry’s Electronics. So cool to see how weird it got, just to survive in that competitive market.
@truecrimescotsman
Жыл бұрын
That is the coolest 5 and a quarter inch accoutrement I've ever seen.
@renakunisaki
Жыл бұрын
Ah, I love audiophool snake oil. Bit surprised the tube is even hooked up to the audio rather than just being there for looks.
@worldofretrogameplay6963
Жыл бұрын
I really love your channel, Clint. Its soooo ASMR and educational! 😊❤️
@prescientdove
Жыл бұрын
tube interacting with electromagnetism being emitted by the CRT creating a little tempest-esque effect.
@natecw4164
Жыл бұрын
As I get older, the idea of playing music off a CD on your desktop is starting to feel like oddware 😂
@fonarte
Жыл бұрын
Ground loop power leaking through the board. If you get a 3.5mm ground loop isolator and put it between the output(perhaps actually better to put between sound card and the tube input) and your speakers it should eliminate the noise. (And the vu dancing) It might introduce some harmonic distortion at low frequencies though. But unless you use that PC for recording then it shouldn't be much an issue
@cwxdaf152
Жыл бұрын
That soundcard sounds really great anyway. It's a good job the Musketeer is good looking.
@Streetsvillainy
Жыл бұрын
11:08 i used to get that on audio devices all the times, i could tell when the processor or disks were really going at it.
@dandy2157
Жыл бұрын
Love your videos Clint, hope you're doing well
@erickhauser2322
Жыл бұрын
It's all about the looks. And it looks cool.
@acid3x
Жыл бұрын
Cool vid LGR! I wonder if the interference noise could be reduced further by throwing a couple ferrite chokes on the internal audio cables running through the case and back again? Gotta be a lot of electronic noise in that chassis and lets be real older systems didn't always have the greatest shielding of isolating parts from each other. Still looks super cool!
@evergreengamer5767
Жыл бұрын
Those pops and clicks are from power surges in the system they are almost always there especially in older systems you can hear them if turn volume way up with no sound playing and is more noticeable with headphones or by putting ear near speaker. Guessing the musketeer 3 is picking them up through the power supply and lacks any sort of filtering from it I made a usb powered headphone amp from a old cd rom drive and it picks them up in a similar fashion, but musketeer still looks great.
@qazwsx000xswzaq
Жыл бұрын
I recall a friend of mine buying it just for the look lol. Good old early 2000 vibe.
@dantevortex
Жыл бұрын
The electron tube, or vacuum tube is significantly more prone to RF interference. Computers tend to send out a number of mixed signals around inside the case and the grid on the motherboard does leak a few electromagnetic signals. Normally too weak to do anything, but the vacuum tube sucks it all up and amplifies it into the speakers. There's a reason they aren't used in computers anymore, or anywhere else for that matter. Tube amplifiers are a fun niche toy, but I would just stick to proper mosfet transistors for amplifying sound.
@somefreshbread
Жыл бұрын
My favorite part of this video is that you still have N*SYNC hotline installed right alongside all of your other mainstays.
@Applecompuser
Жыл бұрын
I like the metal look of it. Its one reason I like my imac, the all aluminum shell which can truly be cleaned like brand new.
@Pilbsu
Жыл бұрын
It's lunacy to run your analogue audio past the motherboard and back as the cable will act like an antenna for interference, hence why you hear those crackles and pops when you move the mouse. Your analogue runs should be as short as possible, like in the case of the external USB audio interface. Very stupid product.
@reconbbs360
Жыл бұрын
Tube audio components can sound really nice. They certainly do give you a different sound compared to standard. A 5.25 drive bay one. It's all for the looks. My tube preamp and tube amp weight 40lbs all together lol.
@Mad3011
Жыл бұрын
Pretty ironic that a company named COOLERmaster made a vacuum tube amp
@Morjensful
Жыл бұрын
Unshielded 3.5mm stereo cable within an enclosure filled with components using different voltages. You will get dc interference which means sub 20 hz pops which the vu meter reacts to. The only thing this really will add is noise. There is not enough voltage there to drive the tube, which is why it has a led haha. Id just use this as a visual prop, it is quite cool looking.
@PCFixer
Жыл бұрын
You need to get a super tower, Clint, build a PC in it, and fill it full of all the 5.25 bay oddware stuff!
@th33b33
Жыл бұрын
I love this obscure stuff! I remember the Aopen tube mobo! That will be another good vid when you get one lol
@plutoniumshore
Жыл бұрын
6:54 It was right there Clint..."Three Musketeers"
@CardfightVanja
Жыл бұрын
"90% of the reason I own any tube devices at all is because I think they look awesome". I agree completely, same with VU meters (often paired together like this for maximum coolness.... or should I say warmth?)
@davida1hiwaaynet
Жыл бұрын
Really cool piece!
@Chrish1981
Жыл бұрын
great vid! As soon as I heard aluminum monster, I thought of always sunny lol.
@Zoomer.88
Жыл бұрын
Such analog, much wow! :D
@john123abc201
Жыл бұрын
The electrical noise that this thing is picking up is actually the basis for something known as a side-channel attack! An attacker could potentially find correlations in this noise and what the CPU is doing.
@nogoodnamesavailable
Жыл бұрын
I love your voice and your speaking style ... it's like the voice from "Duke Nukem 3D", just great. I love it.
@PENFOLD5
Жыл бұрын
Swap out one of the CD drives in the Bear-A-Byte…..its already sporting a 3.5” Zip drive
@woosix7735
10 ай бұрын
you have to admit that it looks cool
@MrWolfSnack
Жыл бұрын
The reason this exists is because in the mid 00's all these high end stereo receivers and Blu-Ray or DVD players started putting vacuum tubes into them as some kind of gimmick to say "hey this shit is very expensive because it gives you the most crisp superb sound ever". This is because as people made their speakers larger but more compact tabletop units and they got more electronically sophisticated and moved away from analog sound, they became vastly more sensitive to interference noise and ground loop humming. Obviously other companies wanted to copy this for PC's. This vacuum tube fad did not last long at all and I think everyone found out quickly it didn't do shit.
@StitchJones
Жыл бұрын
I would have loved one of those years ago. This is really niche type of thing. Great video, thank you!
@frankmurphy5
Жыл бұрын
I'm 113 years old and this really brings me back to when I used to play Quake at my grandparent's house in the 20's. Thanks Clint!
@andrewdriver3318
Жыл бұрын
I demand a "Vaultec" themed build, using this, that tube motherboard, and that amber drive bay monitor.
@TBL_stevennelson
Жыл бұрын
I think you got to try buying enough to compare with and without for a home theater setup. Epic tube setup
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