I enjoy Penson. He is definitely the fun brother. I like how he gives Penuel the space to be himself. He allows the interruptions and listens attentively each time. He loves and honors his brother (Penuel). So beautiful to watch.
@pensonmlotshwa
5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Thato! Penuel is Penuel… he’s been like this from when we were kids 😅
@Mr.ExtrodinThinks
4 ай бұрын
100%
@fuzuyisezulu1829
15 күн бұрын
Ubhuti omdala uyahlonishwa period
@kimlouise-rf5rr
5 ай бұрын
I have said it before and I will say it again. I truly hope you both understand what you have to offer South Africa. With your thirst for knowledge, enquiring minds, ability to talk and listen to guests from all walks of life and at the same time have the courage to have the necessary tough conversations. It is a privilege to make time to listen to your podcasts. Even though there are times when guests will infuriate me and other times, your guests will give me hope. So THANK YOU for all the hard work behind the scenes in order to prepare and present a platform upon which we can all learn something from each other.
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Kim 🙏🏽❤️
@akhonalion
4 ай бұрын
Yoh this conversation was soooo interesting, especially the last point Penuel raises on single fathers wanting to parent. Sana, I was raised by a man and he did such a great job! Cooked for us, was at every Dr's visit, netball match and where he couldn't meet us emotionally, he'd take us to therapy, and all that other stuff that are deemed as feminine like doing laundry etc did not take away from his masculinity. We still see him as the head of the house and treat him as such.
@godpenuel
4 ай бұрын
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@chartneypuffs8646
5 ай бұрын
From my experience..I used to go to soccer at school and after school Friday afternoon I found another soccer team that plays at the mosque only after 16:00 I didn't really like the sport but my father made sure I had everything I needed so there was no excuse to not go..I learnt a lot about committing to one thing and persistence and consistency..I apply those principles in my life🤞🏾
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
Shoutout to your father 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@sibusisomichaels
4 ай бұрын
I'm raising a boy, still very young but I'm trying to be the father I never had..was raised by my grandparents and really learnt a lot. Thank you for this bros, we're learning
@thembalethubigt4019
5 ай бұрын
Penson has a better understanding and curiosity of the effects of "white" schools on a African child. 👏🏽👏🏽
@pensonmlotshwa
5 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏽 I’m learning from my own experiences when I was in school, as a pupil, as an ex teacher, and now as a parent…
@botlebybotle2253
4 ай бұрын
I am so happy that I can have a multitude of men to point to that my son can look up to when he is old enough. I am a firm believer of healthy masculinity in boy-children. Thank you, thank you, thank you Pen & Pen♥
@MillardMoyo-kp6cf
5 ай бұрын
Always a learning experience with the two brothers live long , because you are not only teaching south Africans but it's a global space kudos am from zambia
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
Love to everyone in Zambia. We appreciate you 🙏🏽✊🏽
@Rodgerskayula
4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 I thought I'm the only one who watches Penuel from Zambia 😂😂😂
@godpenuel
4 ай бұрын
@@Rodgerskayula I'm a big deal in Zambia... you better ask somebody!!! 😂😂😂
@Rodgerskayula
4 ай бұрын
@@godpenuel I see sir it's clear and loud, when do you plan to visit Zambia or I visit you that side Lol😄😄 Otherwise You are dope sending love from 🇿🇲🇿🇲🇿🇲
@lisemelomazaiwana1682
5 ай бұрын
I love listening to you both,listening from Zim...you are both true to urself and journey while still respecting the other person s different journey...its beautiful having this as siblings who were raised by same parent. And as someone married ...listening to Penson opened my eyes on how I have unintentionally not allowed my husband on other areas to bring the masculine side to our kids.I now understand that they both need feminine and masculine side to be able to handle different aspects of life. Thank you both...looking forward to your next conversation.
@boipelommileng
5 ай бұрын
This conversation.❤❤❤ Im thinking about my daughters(under 5). They are sheltered. The most important thing right now is loving on them. Already, dad comes back from work and says to me, "No playing with boys." to them... obviously expecting me to implement as the primary caregiver, I literally maintain that. I don't expect an explanation or anything like that. I know there will be more "plan" he will want to implement through me, I don't question because I already have an unfair level of influence on them being that I'm the mother. Parenting isn't 50/50. I chose him because I'd be so proud to have a boy child who turns out just like him. I LIKE HIM. Even with the girls, I trust his plan. It goes back to the "deputy mom" chat Penson speaks about. It seems to be harder when you're co-parenting to get the mother to "follow your lead."
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
These are really interesting thoughts to share. Thank you so much 🙏🏽
@Rhenadhis
4 ай бұрын
These Pen and Pen convos always make my heart feel full. It is the love between you two, the banter and even the disagreements that makes this real and relatable. I also really love how you two are always committed to having to having the toughest of conversations.
@AceShapa
5 ай бұрын
The bromance between these guys 😂😂❤
@Mrtdogg101
5 ай бұрын
Never a dull moment with the brothers!
@pensonmlotshwa
5 ай бұрын
We really tried to be serious with this one 😂😂😭
@Mrtdogg101
5 ай бұрын
@@pensonmlotshwa 🤣🤣🤣and dropping gems as always
@pensonmlotshwa
5 ай бұрын
@@Mrtdogg101 Dankie brother 🙏🏽
@siphosethusihlangu
5 ай бұрын
I live for the episode where the two of you come together. Love to see the brotherhood but also how you both process thoughts whilst learning from each other in front of us. It is priceless. Question: What do you do as brothers to safeguard your relationship, especially in times and season that you don't see eye to eye on matters???
@kgotsochabangu9107
5 ай бұрын
They are both smart. I have a brother, and I can relate to their relationship. All I see is love.
@Mrtdogg101
5 ай бұрын
Having been raised by women with very few competent men I understand Penuel's frustrations. They just don't get it fam, the sad part is that its always as if they only understand it after disaster hit and even if after that you cant say I told you because you have to nurse their emotions. I don't know how to quite articulate it but I get you as someone who has seen many trainwrecks coming way before they hit but it fell on deaf ears. Thank you for using your adversities as a teachable moment because my approach to it is now simple-be that utmost best version of yourself, take 100% responsibilities and accountability of your life including in the raising of children to a point where a woman's role would almost be negligible. Be that guy first and they ll be no negotiating-thats my approach, no one can tell Trump, Lebron, Julius on how to raise their kids.
@KingKZA
5 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed tha podcast.. I think tha ultimate answer is “know thyself” study your history (lineage), biology, purposes & tha differences between you & “them” (white people, females etc) to find what works best for you & your like or kind Then subsequently structure your life accordingly &/or change how tha society is structured - at large - if it doesn’t favour you but works better for those who dominate & disadvantage you for their exclusive agenda (prosperity)
@kimberkhoza6558
4 ай бұрын
yo. this chat took us there. the love and repect that I have for you Pen. You're always taking us there. That place that we know we need to go but are too afraid to bring up. Love and respect.
@fanelesibongemthethwa153
5 ай бұрын
Intresting topics guys, its personal for me cause no one taught us as Mothers on how to support our boys. I been winging it and its no childs play to raise the boys....😢
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
I know you're trying your best 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@snothodlamini5869
4 ай бұрын
That surfing comment really took me out🤣🤣🤣😂purely because there's a Sphitjo who's an engineer that i know and is also acquainted to you😅mans catching strays unprovoked🤣🤣
@samukelomadide797
Ай бұрын
Great convo❤❤
@karatekidmyende1578
4 ай бұрын
Wt a hot session, thanx to these to Gents for a mind opening session. 1day we must look more deep to the fact that after all children are human, they have got their own preferences, yes we as parents are meant to guide them bt we must try and not find our selves driving them instead of guiding them, it's goes deeper when you notice that kids parents strugle to install lessons in their kids heads where else friends do it with ease, till this day i can't count 10 children who would rather spend time with parents over friends, and i personally believe it's true that we become what we saround our selves with. I feel like a friend is a strong catalyst with a serious impact on what our kids may become in the future and i wonder if there is anything we can do about that as parents 🤔
@alfred8027
4 ай бұрын
"Angaz' ukuthi nashelana kanjani"🤣🤣🤣🤣
@KHOSA_E
4 ай бұрын
That one took me off😂😂😂😭
@Zy-gote
4 ай бұрын
Penson is low-key funny 😅
@leratom7106
5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this super important conversation gents. If possible, could you please do a round table and invite an Afrikaner, Jewish, Xhosa, Zule etc. persons for a discussion about their life experiences, raising kids and their challenges in the modern South Africa. This an important topic and it would be great to have regular episodes since there's more to learn and we can learn a lot from each other. My concern raising kids in this modern South Africa is that, as Penson, mentioned we (native Africans) are modeling our fatherhood based of western culture/styles as unfortunately we do not have enough role models to learn from. Ubaba Mbuso Khoza is one good example I think of as our Africa role model.
@johnathannaidoo4231
4 ай бұрын
Much respect to this 2 gentleman. Always enjoy they podcast.
@levi2123
3 ай бұрын
Their love for each other reminds of me and my siblings ❤
@Rorisang_Ramakhala
5 ай бұрын
I had the privilege of meeting both Penuel and Penson,this is by far the best Pen&Pen episode I’ve ever watched. I appreciate you guys so much✌️.You’ve become my older brothers👍.
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
Love you, Rorisang 🙏🏽
@fanelesibongemthethwa153
5 ай бұрын
Totts...Wish my boys get to meet them one day...i indirectly parent via them as Mom...
@ntando25Dconcepts
5 ай бұрын
I love this topic gents. I needed to hear this.
@sihlemiya4339
5 ай бұрын
Such an awesome thumbnail! nice one majita.
@onaleronamabuse5802
5 ай бұрын
Great episode gents. Wish you had more insights on public vs private education in the context of girls.
@fanelesibongemthethwa153
5 ай бұрын
The part about selling a model in co-parenting. Am even sharing your links to a Super Baby-Daddy...Lord help us
@lushhustle
4 ай бұрын
nearly skipped watching because things can get pretty chaotic when you guys are together. But I'm glad I didn't miss out! Penson, your emotional intelligence really shines through, man, and as a Zulu man, you're holding it down! (Aye, uyazama, homeboy.) I'd love to hear more about the co-parenting topic. Maybe Penuel could bring in a female perspective next time for a different viewpoint
@ToxxicMafia
5 ай бұрын
former ModelC public schools are generally way better that those cheap private schools like Spark or even Curro Academy
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
I agree with you. Penson might disagree.
@thulitukisi1711
4 ай бұрын
I agree with you
@nomvulangozo4277
4 ай бұрын
I initially enrolled my kids in a Christian private school (not those top notch ones)...then moved them to public schools one Afrikaans the other English and I must say the old Afrikaans school is way there with the top notch private schools.
@thulitukisi1711
4 ай бұрын
@@nomvulangozo4277 mmhh🤔 I think the structure of construct/culture/traditional based schools win by having a basis to build on
@fanelesibongemthethwa153
5 ай бұрын
Humour up in here🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MangoLimuwon
5 ай бұрын
I always enjoy PEN&PEN 🤣😂😂Great Convo as always gents✌
@WandileKgotatso
5 ай бұрын
I've always learn from your two guys two brothers of destruction Two greatest minds ❤️❤️
@fanelesibongemthethwa153
5 ай бұрын
And still so hillarious😂😂😂...Mac G. “WANT TO BE“ #repeat
@OkuhleMazeka-jj3id
4 ай бұрын
I'm so glad I came across this episode. Insightful. The parenting tamplet part... Kudos grootmans
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
Do you think we do better when we speak to the camera or when we're engaging each other... thoughts?
@iampreacherx2599
5 ай бұрын
Both
@lukhowitbooi8281
5 ай бұрын
Each other. Need that Moeletsi Mbeki sit down.
@BrownMedallion
5 ай бұрын
Engaging with one another. It simply allows for the most authentic conversations, as the conversation above. Thank you for your work Pen. 🙏🏽🔥
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
@@BrownMedallion Thank you 🙏🏽
@kgotsochabangu9107
5 ай бұрын
With each other.
@nomynoms1969
4 ай бұрын
Awuu My Mlotshwa Brothers Madoda🥰 Gravitated towards Penuel ke today. I think this brother is calming down a bit…😜🤣🙈 It’s amazing how after All this discussion about parenting y’all still don’t see/ would not admit on the value of marriage, especially on the parenting side….through out the problems mentioned I was just thinking, “would be solved if parents were together in one household, influencing & convincing each other about these parenting styles even in Pillow talks” would be way simpler & easier to decrease that 90 vs10%… Otherwise this future of education involving home economics, might I add “ needle work “ 😂is reminding me of stories our parents & grandparents would to tell us about their education… It is indeed interesting times & this very education is soo expensive. Penuel is lucky too Bcoz he seems to also have independent baby mamas with these 7 kids. Imagine if all fees had to come from 1 pocket, even the schools one doesn’t like would have to be an option. Enjoyed the discussion. Upwards & onwards PurpleBlood😉😝😁🐀🐀Rhodents.
@sibongisenisakhele3114
5 ай бұрын
Independence has no sex. Being entrepreneural and productive are critical life skills. Resilience is the most needed trait for more. Life is hard and if lack resilience puts one at risk of surviving many of life's challenges
@fanelesibongemthethwa153
5 ай бұрын
i was with Ladysmith/ Newcastle/Vryhried/ Greytown boys in Portshepston Camp...
@sammtolo9226
4 ай бұрын
Penuel the conversation is interesting its would have been lovely to include a female for us mommies with daughters. I am busy applying for High school and I went to a township's school. It would have been lovely to also get a female perspective because you guys also have boys it makes the conversation not inclusive.
Well guys, I think that we all grew up during a time where it was always forced down our throats that private education is better than public education. I think that we can all agree that the ultimate epitome of education is tertiary education. If you look at the top 20 best universities in the country it is all public universities. Ngisho wena UCT, RHODES, UP,UJ,UFS,NMU, Stellenboch University etc... in fact, UCT is the best in the continent and amongst the best in the world. UCT is a public institution. So in the space of education I'd argue that government trumps the private sector. In fact, a majority of student who go to private institutions of higher learning only go there because they've been rejected by a public university. So I debunk this notion that private is the best because our universities are a clear demonstration of that. Name one private institution of higher learning in the country that can compete with UCT, UP, UJ, WITS etc... I'll wait..
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
We'd need to look at relative percentages for context. The private schools are a fraction of public schools. The wealthiest and most powerful in SA seem to reference private schools a lot.
@claimantone5450
4 ай бұрын
Ay your brother Penuel 😂 😂😂 and pronunciation 😂😂😂
@DrUnatiDrMHealthCorner
4 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this!!!
@tyescoelludick8028
5 ай бұрын
Hey pen. I hope you are well. I hear your point on wishing nkunzi and Africa could learn certain things from you such as catching taxis and hustling their uncle's. You are at a greater stance financially and intellectually. You need to expose your children to greater experiences such as teaching them trades and how to manage employees from tender age, Increase their imagination, Instead of them catching taxis, they should start things which will allow them to drive and catch lamozines. Their training should be in prep for the life you want them to live, and not the one you lived...
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
I agree with both. I can teach them both. But the grit must never ever be underestimated.
@Mrtdogg101
5 ай бұрын
Penson whats your workout routine-im trying to bulk up this Winter so i could be Spring ready...a segment-nyana on that one of these good days could come in handy....Pen clearly stands no chance if you guys were to do a charity boxing match
@sibongisenisakhele3114
4 ай бұрын
Penuel, it depends on the influence of the mother when growing up. I had strong masculine presence and happen to have more inherent traits from my father. So, I have very mixed parenting styles. Not just feminine.
@godpenuel
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing 🙏🏽
@Thei_da_bruh
4 ай бұрын
King Edward VII old boy locked in✋
@luluspele9486
3 ай бұрын
Penson?! 🥰 I’m in love.
@AsemahleMqubuli
4 ай бұрын
My favorite duo❤
@nolaquev
5 ай бұрын
Penson is more rounded. I also choose private but co-ed. Boys and girls must interact because in the real world males and females must work together. .
@nkaliphomkhize2702
5 ай бұрын
Brothers of peace ✌🏽
@nozukogacula5448
4 ай бұрын
Penuel ngicela ukunika izingane, lol i love your parenting idea of parenting.
@BOBINKINGA
4 ай бұрын
Bhuti omdala, please visit Goldstones at Maritzburg College against a top school and trust me you won't regret it 🤞🏾❤
@Thatotherguy803
5 ай бұрын
The Black Pen!
@nomynoms1969
4 ай бұрын
That Penson point of loving from far then coming in & wanting to change things then wanting to move again NEEDS to be investigated💯Blacks need to fix this for real anywhere. To Penuel’s closing point of well Balanced parenting…Afrikaans families/Muslims families are not only using their templates but they do it together & not apart☝🏾… they’d also/ also face exact SAME challenges if they were doing it apart especially a case like Penuel’s where it is also worlds apart… so don’t beat yourselves up too much. Y’all are already doing Great & better than most. Especially by even having these conversations, it means you learning& there’s no manual anyway❤️🔥..Another dynamic is that Afrikaans/ Muslim females mostly have NO say in these things in their families, they are not as vocal as black women or exercise their rights,mostly bcoz fathers are sole providers & their word goes/ culture etc… so it is not so dual or 50/50 as one would think. It might be 70/30 or less towards moms who can’t tell a father nothing. Y’all have got this under your different circumstances. Keep moving, learning & improving by the time you look back Y’all will be surprised at your awesomeness & what great Dads you have been.
@TsholoMebalo-vh9lh
4 ай бұрын
I wish my son's father was presently in his life but his not interested .. 😢😢 so as a mom i am very proud to have a humbly boy ❤
@Healingson
5 ай бұрын
i'm curious to know what you guys think of boarding school environments
@TheLastDrinkZA
4 ай бұрын
It would be intriguing to dig into the "mans plan" vs the "woman's plan" pertaining to life structures conversation.... Baring the Will and Jada relationship model in mind. Will had a plan, and it was a full proof plan and Jada hopped onboard but was unhappy for a significant amount of time. Because they assimilated to Will's plan.... The opposite of that is the woman's plan which I believe is what you used the "schooling systems" to describe.... Which is an intriguing interpretation of the woman's plan... Penson went on to describe the woman's ability to hop onto multiple men's plans (in not so many words) by describing how a woman's plan can be reduced to hopping onto any mans plan regardless of her own desires... My question with all of this in mind is, do we as human beings think we've ever gotten to a place where we allow ourselves to converse about these proposed plans before deciding to pro-create? Second to that, do men in South Africa think that a woman's plan is to hop onto a mans plan?
@christinemarnewick2847
5 ай бұрын
Guys, you make me laugh. It's even tough for my white kids who are parents to keep up with the Jones. Stuff the Jones. 😂😂
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
Stuff them indeed 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@Bingley33
5 ай бұрын
At 1hr 30 - Penson dropped the real deal with our people
@Bingley33
5 ай бұрын
Penuel's idea on how to raise 'soldiers' is pretty dope! However no sane mother would allow half the stuff. A kid going to play soccer with goons hiking taxis coming from privilege can easily be prey! Though comfort may ruin kids we understate the protection a bit of privilege can do for a child. School performance though its not a blanket statement, on average a hardship actually ruins alot of potential. The success stories we hear that were made from hardship sounds good to our ears but these people compared to the masses are less.
@KHOSA_E
4 ай бұрын
I’d love to sit down with the two brothers, share some ideas, exchange knowledge and criticism .
@tentrickspony8925
Ай бұрын
I sometimes confuse you two 😂
@fanelesibongemthethwa153
5 ай бұрын
Malwande Hlophe Landbouh ( U19- Captain-10/ 12) going to Italy as well. Please come back to Midlands to support us single mothers😢😢😢
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@wongalethunyombolo2423
5 ай бұрын
PEN, I can't believe J cole/ fold folded
@pensonmlotshwa
5 ай бұрын
Why did he though????
@wongalethunyombolo2423
5 ай бұрын
@@pensonmlotshwa His been going around claiming his the Mohammed Ali of Rap. The boogeyman Kendrick had to put him in his place.
@pensonmlotshwa
5 ай бұрын
@@wongalethunyombolo2423 DAMN!!! Lemme go check it out
@molemomosia8913
5 ай бұрын
Pen what’s your thoughts on Denzel’s movie Fences? I think he fairly tries to build a solid gent as well
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
I've never seen it. Only seen a few clips, especially the one where Viola Davis is crying and where Denzel is admonishing his son.
@fabianbooysen3718
5 ай бұрын
Thanks brothers dope convo, does excellent school results qualify a person to be successful in the secular world? Does growing up in kassie give you an advantage being streetwise over those growing up in the suburbs? Are street wisdom a requirement to be successful?
@CM-to2zp
Ай бұрын
Please come to Queen's College reunion next year
@nompumelelondlovu2859
4 ай бұрын
Ey nibahle maan nkosi yama viyo
@MandisaManci
5 ай бұрын
Doggy Dog world or dog eat dog world🤣🤣🤣
@godpenuel
5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@MizzAP4
5 ай бұрын
It's probably best to come to an agreement on how you want to raise children before they are made.
@fanelesibongemthethwa153
5 ай бұрын
My Fav Duo🧚🦾🥰
@thulitukisi1711
4 ай бұрын
Controversial suggestion for Penuel: Get a woman or more women by a criteria to sign a co-parenting contract in order to try and experiment your ideal parenting styles, yeah?
@sellonkomo839
4 ай бұрын
Wow this two are siblings I didn't know that
@coachMims
5 ай бұрын
49:31 super dope wena mara narcissist tendencies
@dominik6653
4 ай бұрын
« Meek mill »🤣 😂 🤣
@mokhoromichael7827
5 ай бұрын
GOATED Penson comment on 1:04:47🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@user-fr3pg2uc1x
4 ай бұрын
lol ima say ths for penson.... "let him finish"
@sibongisenisakhele3114
4 ай бұрын
Penson, we need African research on parenting
@christinemarnewick2847
5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@MizzAP4
5 ай бұрын
Rating a black south African father a 1/2 and a white one 6/7 is a indication of what you've been exposed to. Growing up in a 2 parent home I could never rate black fathers a 1/2. Additionally, I'd never score any of the black fathers I know 1/2. Growing up without a present father is really tragic. It clearly distorts your view.
@sammtolo9226
4 ай бұрын
When I send my child to school I want her to focus on education and other schools activities. How she is dressed should not even exist hence I am against the thought of uniforms dying. Children with parents that can't afford will have their kids dying because of peer pressure 😢.
@zodidikhumalo2214
4 ай бұрын
What happens to them at tertiary (university and college)?
@thulitukisi1711
5 ай бұрын
Guys no😂🙆♂️
@zolileputuma4631
5 ай бұрын
Pen Let your brother speak
@coachMims
5 ай бұрын
1:24:06 what the hell ameba. Definitely no homework I refuse 1:26:25
@thabangtefo3365
5 ай бұрын
Why don't you play that tennis match for him to also learn skills of conflict resolution?
@mphahamankunyane2804
4 ай бұрын
🇱🇸
@UnluckiestManAlive-n6g
5 ай бұрын
Please bring your sister sometime....
@sphalush8261
4 ай бұрын
Penuel is trying so hard to make his brother as opinionated as him😂
@KatisoNtshonyane
10 күн бұрын
Stop swearing man, don't forget this is a public platform
@JustKiingzaBackup
8 күн бұрын
nah this is a left platform not right go watch sabc news
@thulanibongani9166
4 ай бұрын
Why do not advice people to become entrepreneurs
@JamesBond-006.5
4 ай бұрын
Joe Rogan has nothing on this channel.😅
@godpenuel
4 ай бұрын
NOTHING!!!!
@Dr_Mathe_Omdala
5 ай бұрын
This guy is saying a whole lot of nothing. Just define a father . A black father and a white father.
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