He was for libertarianism when the evangelical was more powerful. He was actually a leftist the entire time. He’s not actually a libertarian.
@cucubanana4226
2 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what i suspected. Some people don't realize they are leftists because they are not that introspective.
@Nah_Bohdi
2 жыл бұрын
@@cucubanana4226 Reminds me of the flag ball meme of smiling Anarcho-Communist mask over an angry all red ball behind it .
@fyrchmyrddin1937
2 жыл бұрын
Narrator: Evangelicals were never powerful
@leslieann6102
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly... the things he most railed against was censorship of porn and other easy issues to pick apart. Especially since back then people didn't furiously attack and cancel. I loved Bullshit, even though i was way too young to be watching it lol.
@churblefurbles
2 жыл бұрын
@@fyrchmyrddin1937 This is true, it was Tipper Gore going after rap music, a battle over Walmart shelves, pales in comparison to what happens today.
@jtrocker9976
2 жыл бұрын
No. Next question.
@Graeme_Lastname
2 жыл бұрын
Government expertise? It's never happened in my lifetime.
@NathanCline12-21
2 жыл бұрын
Or the entire human history
@UmaROMC
2 жыл бұрын
You're both wrong. I cannot think of a single organisation, voluntary or itherwise, that is quite so expert at picking the exact wrong things to do fron a rational perspective. So you're wrong in a way that kinda makes you still right 😉
@NathanCline12-21
2 жыл бұрын
"Anarchy is no guarantee that some people won't kill,injure, kidnap, defraud, or steal from others. Government is a guarantee that some will. " Gustave de Molinari
@Graeme_Lastname
2 жыл бұрын
@@NathanCline12-21 Thank you m8. 😃 👍
@McMeatBag
2 жыл бұрын
Covid taught us that literally no one in the government is an expert at anything, besides profiting off of their positions.
@jimthompson5844
2 жыл бұрын
When it was his values being shut down he wanted less government when it’s the values he opposed now that the government is pushing his values he has left the movement.
@LikeATreeOnAMountain
2 жыл бұрын
"When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles. - Harq al-Ada, Children of Dune, misattributed to Louis Veuillot
@justinhart2831
2 жыл бұрын
But you would never do that.
@ErdTirdMans
2 жыл бұрын
We're all just on sides of a tug-of-rope, pulling the center in our direction. If the center ever moves past your ideal point, you'll "switch sides" too. Right now, the ancaps are my allies. If the day came where we got a classically liberal government and it started veering ancap, I'd be pulling against them
@christiensebastien2442
2 жыл бұрын
The dude literally said he'd rather have a socialist completely fuck up than to have a guy like Trump save lives from pulling troops out of a war, provided the guy was thoughtful in his decision to fuck things up. Like what? And of course, Nick just patronized him the whole time, and should've pushed back on that more.
@electrictroy2010
2 жыл бұрын
PENN was very disillusioned by Trump because he thought Trump was truly dumb. Penn thought the president should lead by example & wear a mask on tv ,
@malachi-
2 жыл бұрын
You do know that his daughter decided she was a trans, so then he flipped on everything, right? Now he can't even answer a simple question without an emotional sales pitch, first... if he ever even actually answers the question at all.
@pathacker4963
2 жыл бұрын
No didn’t know that.
@tsufordman
2 жыл бұрын
Good to know while watching this.
@PurpleHazeVanNederlands
2 жыл бұрын
As if true libertarians give a fuck about adults being trans
@Justanotherconsumer
2 жыл бұрын
So letting people have control over their own identity is contrary to Libertarian principles? Honestly it sounds like a lot of “libertarians” are just conservatives that don’t want to be called conservatives.
@muskepticsometimes9133
2 жыл бұрын
Yup he totally joined trans cult, pretty dad
@lizard450
2 жыл бұрын
No, and he never was
@wade2bosh
2 жыл бұрын
yes he was
@vidyanandbapat8032
2 жыл бұрын
He was staunch atheist for sure, but a staunch libertarian too? Its difficult to answer in one way or the other.
@tallard666
2 жыл бұрын
@@vidyanandbapat8032 He was a superficial vain celebrity seeking atheist who always had blind faith in science. Magicians... sheesh, kiddy food
@David.Harris
2 жыл бұрын
I will save everyone... No. He is not.
@fortusvictus8297
2 жыл бұрын
Never was, was always a Libertine. I was told to shut up by another libertarian once many years ago for saying that back when BS was a popular show. Dunno, but to me, he has always been a very obvious libertine.
@qazmko22
2 жыл бұрын
I don't get the hate from Libertarians he is currently getting. He has never said government should step in and control people (via. taxes or. regulations) he just takes the "personal responsibility" very seriously. He supports, open borders, free trade, low taxes, small police force, small military, but that means he supports personal responsibility.
@kendallmay7977
2 жыл бұрын
I will save y’all some time. It’s a two hour softball interview where a group of guys who, lean more towards Democrats than anarchists, take turns kneeling and eating the bs that each other defecates.
@foadnwol6684
2 жыл бұрын
excellent!
@reignman30
2 жыл бұрын
NGL, I knew how it was going to go and decided to read the comments section instead. And I have not been disappointed xD.
@anubis1416
2 жыл бұрын
Shame, turns out he wants to dictate other peoples lives as much as any one else. Really used to like this guy.
@glenlewis3831
2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter who the president is. The system was designed to protect itself, so one man cannot change it.
@JakeWitmer
2 жыл бұрын
One man could...but not with a servile gov-schooled population...so...maybe you're right depending on your meaning...
@nayaleezy
2 жыл бұрын
Penn sold out
@robertcaccavalla6469
2 жыл бұрын
Jillett never has demonstrated an academic argument. Just his opinion or interpretation.
@darthsmolin
2 жыл бұрын
Would you call him an academic? He literally graduated from Clown College. XD
@robertcaccavalla6469
2 жыл бұрын
@@darthsmolin ah yes haaa. True 👍. I forgot about that 😅
@spiderqueen601
2 жыл бұрын
I’m shocked by how much these dudes believe media spin rather than the words out of Trump’s mouth. These guys should know how misquotes and edits work.
@routinelyrandom9409
2 жыл бұрын
When Trump went on national television and advocated for red flag laws and bigger stimulus checks the media wouldn't even bring it up - they just kept talking about Russia
@paulgeorge315
2 жыл бұрын
They honestly believe that Trump called all Mexicans "rapists". The difference between "they're" and "their" completely changes the meaning.
@chrisjohnson-tn3gl
2 жыл бұрын
@@paulgeorge315 i dont watch the reasontv guy a lot, but was shocked when he implied trump said all mexican immigrants were grapists. thought he would have a more reasonable take on that like... possibly going back to the direct quote instead of media shaded quotes
@badmofaux
2 жыл бұрын
I’ll hold Gillette to the higher standard here, given that he at one point at least positioned himself as some form of skeptic. (Whereas Gillespie is merely the self-described libertarian). In either case though they really oughta know better than to indulge their biases so plainly. They go with the interpretation which suits their argument and don’t think twice about it.
@lancegrandis6230
2 жыл бұрын
@@paulgeorge315 no the instance everyone clings to claiming Trump called them rapists being false is not due to possessive pronouns but rather it is the subject - he clearly was talking about ms-13, not Mexicans. Also, and how these guys never even seem to be aware of this which blows my mind, is how do they think Trump has brought so many Hispanics over to his side, to unprecedented levels which is nearing 50%?
@ThieleMobile
2 жыл бұрын
One cannot be butt buddies with Gavin Newsom and be a libertarian
@pdd60absorbed12
2 жыл бұрын
Penn and company are "emotional" wrecks, having abandoned reason.
@HankMeyer
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think we should ban the word "evil", because that word is a strong indicator of the speaker's capacity for rational discussion. Instead we should ban the use of words based on their reputation instead of their meaning. The word "toxic" for example is being used in place of "evil" because it sounds more clinical, and the people who use it have adopted it to hide how irrational they are.
@jwtlucky
2 жыл бұрын
When given the option between Larry Elder and Gavin Newsom, he got on stage and campaigned with Gavin. I had the misfortune of living under the rule of that piece of trash from 2019 until a month ago. I don’t need to bother listening to any defense of Penn, his actions spoke louder.
@tommyanomaly6193
2 жыл бұрын
Libertarians shouldn't be voting for either one
@jwtlucky
2 жыл бұрын
@@tommyanomaly6193 shocking…. the no real libertarian argument. Yeah I’ll take the man who talks about Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams being his biggest influence over any of the 20 something other people that put their names on the ballot, especially considering that Elder was the only one with the name recognition to actually to have a chance at winning.
@Hibernial
2 жыл бұрын
@@tommyanomaly6193 Libertarians should be taking after the ideas of Hoppe, where gaining political traction at the local level and then privatizing services that way where a political approach is opted for by liberty-minded people and communities. It's merely binary thinking to only view the act of voting as how its is promoted and packaged to be within a strict system.
@frankiel3767
2 жыл бұрын
@Manish Mims And it isn't Elder either.
@drdeesnutts48
2 жыл бұрын
@@frankiel3767 How so?
@glasgowbusker
2 жыл бұрын
Can someone please explain to these obviously learned people that believing abortion to be murder is irrelevant to ones position on choice! You can believe in both. If the world stopped mixing issues and talking about them as if they are one and the same, there would be less arguing and more doing! There is no mutual exclusivity here... Its that old adage, I don't agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it. I might or might not agree with abortion, but it is a woman's right to decide. I would have used the phrase "I believe in a woman's right to decide", but it soundeed really weird when I read it back to myself. What do I mean? Well, I would be like saying "I believe the bicycles have two wheels"... How can you not believe in a fact?
@iluomobravo
2 жыл бұрын
They speak of abortion like being pro abortion is an obvious, easy conclusion to arrive at and no reasonable person could think otherwise as they willfully ignore SO MANY FACTS and common sense
@JakeWitmer
2 жыл бұрын
...on the plus side, more abortions would tend to reduce the number of people who "choose" to have their spawn turned against us all in the government youth propaganda camps euphemistically called "public schools"
@1voluntaryist
2 жыл бұрын
Less religion is less of one type of superstition. There are still billions who feel a need to be protected by a strong, violent force. "The Most Dangerous Superstition" (Larken Rose) is still the majority's reason for supporting violence over reason, rights, choice, in other words, the worldwide political paradigm. When that belief is replaced with a respect for thinking individually, but choosing to share our ideas, working out our differences because we value each other as sovereigns, then humanity won't be in danger of self-destruction.
@EndTheNFApls
2 жыл бұрын
This man is haunted by Donald Trump
@SimBol1216
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if people in the comments realize that Milton Friedman acknowledged externalities (such as secondhand smoke) and argued for government intervention in those cases.
@Feeltheh8
2 жыл бұрын
I think Penn sounded reasonable as fuck. I don't neccesarily agree with everything he said but it was all very reasonable. I don't think the comment section is right to rip on him.
@tallard666
2 жыл бұрын
As a atheist math obsessed biologist-epidemiologist-adjacent, I can assure you that none of his science positions are reasonable. He has always been a faith based lazy activist, only interested in naval gazing, never actual truth.
@saulabrams4292
2 жыл бұрын
With Nick and Penn this is a great example of libertarianism of the past.
@Orangeoohgonetin
Жыл бұрын
Penn is exactly the type that we don’t need or want… fake libertarians like him are more harmful to liberty than communists
@hellothere4765
2 жыл бұрын
No, Penn was congratulating Gavin Newsom after the recall win. Penn and Teller were the most based back when they were doing BS!.
@JakeWitmer
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. They helped me register 4,000+ people into the AK LP in 2005. (I would have kept going until Alaska was libertarian if the FBI agent in the LP didn't fire me...Oh well...live and learn. Our heroes aren't actually libertarian...if they were, the USA would be libertarian...)
@pmm3597
2 жыл бұрын
HHmmm... Face Nappies! What year did they start working against respiratory viruses?? And why do face diapers n hand sanitizers work against influenza but not da New Corona even tho they are approx same size? Is thsi a new form of virus apartheid??
@TurntBucket
2 жыл бұрын
Saying that Libertarians that didnt want to where masks or get vaccinated made him distance himself from the party makes zero sense. How is their policy different that his? He claims he doesnt want forced vac and mask. What is the point in that if you think that they are less valid for making a choice you claim is theirs to make? You dont have to agree with every Libertarian. But if you agree on the policy prescription then that is all that matters. Libertarian party isnt some social club. Its politics. If the politics match then why distance? And I am talking about his take on this specific issue. Not other issues he disagrees with.
@RickDeckard2
2 жыл бұрын
His mask argument is kinda funny, one time I saw his show in Vegas and he did this whole thing on the TSA. Couldn’t you use all the safety arguments for mask for the TSA?
@NeonAnimeDreams
2 жыл бұрын
Yea he contradicts him self alot, definitely not a consistent libertarian
@chrisjohnson-tn3gl
2 жыл бұрын
also, we are aware the common surgical masks and cloth are not really that effective for covid, right? and frequent touching of mask and face to adjust the mask is bad. n95 masks are great sure, but we dont have n95 mask mandates and probably dont even have the supply of them if we wanted to. and even if we could force 24/7 safe and effective n95 mask wearing its fine for people that want to do that, but there are many tradeoffs including social development of our most important demographic (children), use of unspoken language and microexpressions on the face, as well as the fact that masks were outlawed for good reason because it makes it harder to identify the person, as well as improper handling of masks, as well as the waste of masks which are made out of a plastic fabric, and using the mask as a visual cue to "othering" people there are so many negatives that are not even considered, let alone the conflict with mandates and actual libertarianism
@NeonAnimeDreams
2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjohnson-tn3gl all good points, which just goes to show you liberals are not that smart and they don't look into things.
@ErdTirdMans
2 жыл бұрын
Well, no. The TSA doesn't even reach the 12-20% effectiveness that masks had for the early COVID variants. If your argument is that something needs to be 100% effective to be justified, then you're the one who's kinda funny
@NeonAnimeDreams
2 жыл бұрын
@@ErdTirdMans 12 to 20%? Are you joking? Show the actual factual evidence of this or get out here with that non sense, covid is a tiny virus, doesn't matter the variant, they're all small, they can EASLY slip through the fabric of masks, masks are 99.5% infective. These types of masks are to prevent airborne bacterial, fungal and allergens such as pollen from entering your lungs, not viruses!
@_notofthisearth
2 жыл бұрын
You die a hero, or live long enough to become a villain.
@LazyPirate8
Жыл бұрын
Penn always was a villain
@legionofroots
2 жыл бұрын
Cringe. This interview was sad. He said it in the beginning. "It's not logical, it's emotional"
@agwrr71productions79
5 ай бұрын
Penn and Teller should be running. Not RFK or Trump; Penn & Teller!
@spec24
2 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that it is unlikely any of these people will read these comments. They have become the untouchables, and they cannot be bothered to read the ramblings of us peons.
@raymonddunne7153
Жыл бұрын
PJs completely asinine take on masks is the fruit of being libertarian for wrong reasons.
@larrylelemur6854
2 жыл бұрын
These guys seem to me to be totally clueless.
@justinwhitten5975
2 жыл бұрын
Penn Gillette sucks!!
@stephens.6281
2 жыл бұрын
It’s almost like idolizing celebrities is a waste of time
@bobcobb7992
2 жыл бұрын
I think Penn used to be into underground music. Now he drones on about Bob Dylan.
@JakeWitmer
2 жыл бұрын
He's always been a Dylan superfan ...Dylan's a good lyricist and songwriter...but he ruins everything with his shitty nasally delivery ...and, although I don't know much about his politics...he seems quasi-libertarian at best ...Rock out to Sex Pistols or Agent Orange and at least listen to someone who is smart and anti-establishment
@nicedream92
2 жыл бұрын
Penn Jillette did a good job of calling out the "libertarians" who think private business owners shouldn't be able to enforce masks on their property if they want to.
@josephmoore5949
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but he also was in favor of government mandating it. That was not very libertarian of him.
@tallard666
2 жыл бұрын
Governments fearful of losing votes transfer their anti-science woke performance to the private sector. It's dirty and post-modernist BS no matter if it's government of corporate. Same bs.
@nicedream92
2 жыл бұрын
@@tallard666 yes, but at the end of the day -- from a property rights perspective -- the private business should call the shots
@tallard666
2 жыл бұрын
@@nicedream92 as a libertarian, authoritarianism doesn't care if it's government or private, it's nasty and anti-libertarian. This is where libertarians have gone wrong. There's no difference between government property and other properties. It's just a thing, no matter who owns it.
@nicedream92
2 жыл бұрын
@@tallard666 agree to disagree
@ralexttm4368
2 жыл бұрын
i dont get it. how was there any question of his libertarianism? having a belief of what you should do that contradicts a mandatorial policy is (at least im pretty sure) inherently libertarian. having beliefs and not forcing it on anyone but preaching it is all just free speech and sour candy. its just how we progress.
@danielhopkins296
2 жыл бұрын
The idea that someone is constantly changing their beliefs is utter madness: the Buddhists rightly applaud the sage that has reached certainty / perfection: hence they refer to themselves as " retired scholars "
@beanie3427
Жыл бұрын
I think the only two people who could disappoint me more than Penn has the past few years, is if Matt Stone and Trey Parker suddenly started being woke liberal culture warriors.
@lockandbone6784
Жыл бұрын
It's very heartbreaking. I'm just realizing how far he's gone.
@rogermenendez4052
2 жыл бұрын
Old age and senility got the best if him.
@vincesmith2499
8 ай бұрын
There is no right to infect others. That is not liberty.
@angelozachos8777
3 ай бұрын
You can’t infect others if you you don’t carry the germ Treating everyone like they are infected with a killer germ for two straight years -when they NEVER has the germ - is the height of lunacy Y’all became fanatical religious zealots
@Lucas-k2x3r
18 күн бұрын
You aren’t a libertarian you’re an authoritarian
@bobcobb7992
2 жыл бұрын
The drunk driver analogy alone is so unlibertarian - not to mention unoriginal and absurd - I'm thinking this just has to be a big prank.
@tallard666
2 жыл бұрын
Nah, he's always been a lazy thinking contrarian trickster.
@JakeWitmer
2 жыл бұрын
@@tallard666 Emphasis on "contrarian" ...Contrarians make weak libertarians...but they comprise over 80% of libertarians...the people who don't mind losing.
@gcm4312
2 жыл бұрын
1:25:00 What Penn didn't see (and it was admittedly hard to understand so clearly until the past few years unless you were digging deep into the technology and business behind it all), were the power of the algorithms. We don't exactly have "one-man, one-channel" right now because the algorithms are optimized to keep people in a never-ending loop of confirmation biases. Today it takes MORE effort to find content and ideas that are NOT aligned to your core beliefs. That content is massively available but to reach it you need to actively "fight" the algorithms.
@bartolomeothesatyr
2 жыл бұрын
This. I want to see dissenting opinions and divergent viewpoints, but the algorithms keep feeding me the same ideas over and over.
@reignman30
2 жыл бұрын
Close but not quite. Most social media platforms are controlled by the left, so if you're on the right you're constantly flooded with content that doesn't align with your core beliefs, but if you're on the left, you're in a constant echo chamber.
@tallard666
2 жыл бұрын
@@reignman30 Oddly, I'm a libertarian atheist biologist leftist, and my feed naturally tends to more conservative content, which I rarely interact with. I usually stick to heterodox or "alt centre, not centrist, sources. It's weird.
@bobdolemite4035
2 жыл бұрын
Bought and paid for. Sad to see.
@zunalter
2 жыл бұрын
I like Penn but the "I don't want to be forced to wear a mask therefore everyone should wear a mask" argument hits a bit weak to me. Alerting activity because of potential government reprisal is no better than because of actual government reprisal since it comes from the same place: fear of reprisal.
@atlasking6110
2 жыл бұрын
A "bit" weak? It's the height of hypocrisy.
@DwightBernard
2 жыл бұрын
Lol, no, he's not been libertarian for like 6 years: The TDS messed him up.
@alexreeve2973
2 жыл бұрын
I used to like Penn. Shocking the degree to which he has lost track of reality. Very sad.
@bobwmcgrath
2 жыл бұрын
There is a limitless amount of aluminum that is being harvested from sea water.
@JakeWitmer
2 жыл бұрын
Is this true? Where can I learn more about this? I'm actually interested in this...
@rogerxan
Жыл бұрын
Aluminum is everywhere, some sources cost less to extract from, a factor of two is enough to cause a search worldwide for bauxite instead of clay.
@NeonAnimeDreams
2 жыл бұрын
It's very surprising Trump of all people would make Penn rethink being libertarian, while you may be an open borders libertarian (which I find to be the wrong position) you can't discount that Trump did deregulate some business and greatly wind down the war in the middle east ultimately setting things up for the final pull out towards the end of his term at the end. Now weather his more libertarian positions were achieved by his bombastic attitude I have no idea, Trump said many things that were both libertarian and unlibertarian so who the hell knows but he did accomplish somethings that no other president before him did and some things were pro liberty.
@barrydworak
2 жыл бұрын
That's a balanced, empirical approach. Penn OTOH seems to have gone with pure emotion.
@NeonAnimeDreams
2 жыл бұрын
@@barrydworak i believe so and you're never going to reach a libertarian society that way, real libertarians are some of the most logical people you'll meet and for good reason, liberty positions based on emotion alone are fleeting at best because emotional reactions can justify all sorts of things some of which will be quite unlibertarian.
@drdeesnutts48
2 жыл бұрын
The irony of course is Trump is more libertarian than Penn now.
@JakeWitmer
2 жыл бұрын
@@drdeesnutts48 When they're out of power, they all sound libertarian. When they're in power, they all govern as the central bank wishes...so they don't wind up like JFK. They're all cowards, all shills, all amoral scum...except for the freaks...the McAfees, the Brownes, the Thoreaus, the Spooners, the Douglasses
@thatguybrooke
2 жыл бұрын
Penn picks and chooses when he is a libertarian...lost me at forcing vax/&masks
@AlohaBlockchain
2 жыл бұрын
It is sad what Penn has become.
@Bealz709
2 жыл бұрын
This was entertaining at times, but I was largely disappointed with the amount talking points both parties espoused that came directly from the MSM and have been proven wrong. For example, the first few minutes, both the host and guest mentioned that Trump called Mexicans rapists et al, but in the context of that clip, he is talking specifically about MS13, a violent gang that happens to be *from* Mexico.
@Dude0000
2 жыл бұрын
Mexicans coming over the boarder illegally of which 80% of the women are raped, is what he was talking about.
@tubetorpedo
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, contexts in most cases matters and when Trump used the word animals, conversation was especially about MS-13, which is a brutal gang that have used fear and violence as their tactics from torture, rapes, murders; e.g. burning people alive etc. etc. and victims of those crimes also include kids. But for some reason media liked to claim Trump was just talking about immigrants in general. It's _almost_ like they were dishonest... Very similar like with the "very fine people on both sides" hoax, where media claimed Trump called Nazis as fine people when if you actually listened what Trump said, he during that speech more than one time underlined that he is not referring to Nazis, white nationalists etc. etc. when he mentioned fine people. He specifically said that those Nazis should be totally condemned. But how many actually goes to the source and listens what was actually said? Way too few, that is why lies work.
@tallard666
2 жыл бұрын
Watched the entire thing, not once laughed, but then again I'm not a magic fan, just libertarian atheist rational biologist.
@briterobert
2 жыл бұрын
After listening carefully to all of this I have some thoughts. 1- I still like Penn. 2- He is a powerful example of what I've been seeing for the last couple years very clearly: People of all types choose PREFERENCES ABOVE PRINCIPALS. His libertarian principals that he claims and discusses at length here and in other discussions, is set aside for his preference to go with what he himself called "fear" when it comes to masks. Again, he said how he wanted everyone to take the "vaccines". Why? Again, his preference of "fear". In both instances, his PREFERENCE to go with fear above his PRINCIPAL of libertarianism, shows how even a very thoughtful and intelligent person can fail themselves and others who look up to them. We all stumble and falter. Here is one such example where he has done so. Principals should always override preferences if we are to live either a moral or honest life. Otherwise, we're either immoral or a liar... all depending on how you look at the situation. 3- I have empathy for the flawed humanity of Penn. It makes him a real person. 5- His flaws unfortunately have made many who followed him confused and/or angry at him. The first group never really understood liberty, the second group needs more empathy for other people. 4- There was a point about midway in which he said something along the lines of: if there is an effective and side effect free "vaccine" for covid then he thought everyone should take it. Well, frankly there is not a vaccine for covid. The CDC redefining the word vaccine does not change the true meaning of the word. Don't believe me? Use the wayback machine that archives websites and you'll find what the CDC said in 2012: 2012 definition and terms right off the CDC website via the waybackmachine: Immunization: The process by which a person or animal becomes protected against a disease. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation. Vaccination: Injection of a killed or weakened infectious organism in order to prevent the disease. Vaccine: A product that produces immunity therefore protecting the body from the disease. Vaccines are administered through needle injections, by mouth and by aerosol. Now right off the CDC website as of right now: www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected. Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose. Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease. Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation. *If you look you’ll see important differences that prove my comment to be accurate. This is done to allow what is now called the Covid19 vaccines to even be called vaccines. Vaccines prevent or cure a disease or illness. Look at Biden and so many others that have taken these shots. It proves that what they've taken is absolutely not an effective vaccine. Thus they aren't vaccines. Words mean things and attempts by corrupt people and agencies to redefine them doesn't actually change their meaning. It only shows the corruption and/or delusional state of those wishing to alter reality to suit their preferences. By doing so it shows their intellectual and often moral weaknesses. Thus making them less wise and less honest often at the exact same time. Further, there is a lot of information, much coming straight from the CDC and other state sources, saying that many people have been killed and harmed by the shots that are in fact, not vaccines. Thus, what he said about there being a "vaccine" that wasn't harmful, is clearly not accurate. So yeah, I think a new episode of Bullshit would be great so that Penn can do what I often try to do. Look at and then openly discuss how things he/I thought were truth that are now so clearly absolute BULLSHIT.
@lonestar2078
2 жыл бұрын
dude was celebrating Newsom's victory over the recall. he's no longer libertarian
@FWDSUXARSE
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's authoritarian now.
@Frilleon
2 жыл бұрын
He did??
@vidyanandbapat8032
2 жыл бұрын
Newsom is a staunch Anti-gunner getting funded by Bloomberg and Soros. Anyone who supports Newsom doesn't deserve to be called a libertarian.
@Force1Com
2 жыл бұрын
You can never really trust these people. They always have to sell their brand.
@holidaytrout5174
2 жыл бұрын
Source?
@vincesmith2499
8 ай бұрын
How can any libertarian support Trump's position that the president can do whatever he wants and be immune from prosecution even when he"s no longer president?
@miguelacevedo4691
2 жыл бұрын
Man, Ben Affleck really gain weight!
@trey8770
2 жыл бұрын
No, he supported Newsom and Biden lol.
@vidyanandbapat8032
2 жыл бұрын
Newsom and all other DemonRats are staunch communists. And same is the case with their financiers Michael Bloomberg and George Soros, although they earn all of their money from capitalist institutions such as stock markets. Gun-grabbers like Everytown for gun safety and Moms demand Action are all funded by Bloomberg and Soros despite them earning huge money from capitalist institutions like stock markets. There were no stock markets in erstwhile Soviet Russia when it was communist. Would it have been possible for Bloomberg and Soros to become billionaire at there?
@barfo281
2 жыл бұрын
So did Donald Chump.....Donald Chump supported Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Ted Kennedy, Chuck Schumer, Charles Rangel, Nancy Pelosi, Jerry Brown, David Dinkins, Harry Reid, Joe Biden, John Kerry, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Kristen Gillibrand, Anthony Wiener, Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris, and many more leftists.
@trey8770
2 жыл бұрын
@@barfo281 cool I don’t like Trump
@vidyanandbapat8032
2 жыл бұрын
@@trey8770 #MeToo
@barfo281
2 жыл бұрын
@Joseph There was no booming economy under RINO Trump, RINO Trump escalated Bush and Obama wars, RINO Trump outspent Obama by double in half the time, and did more socialism, more gun control, more debt, bigger deficits, more nanny state policies, etc. than Obama, and he distracted you with his childish twitter crybaby antics. No wonder lifelong NY liberal degenerate democrat conman Trump loves the poorly educated. Look at you.
@killaken2000
2 жыл бұрын
When you become an adult you should have realized "the adults" didn't have everything figured out
@reignman30
2 жыл бұрын
Adults are just better at pretending they have everything figured out.
@WithstandTheStorm
2 жыл бұрын
Answer.....no
@brushylake4606
2 жыл бұрын
I've listened to and watched Penn for almost 40 years. I've disagreed with him, but he's always made sense. For the first time ever, he is making absolutely no sense.
@delocon
2 жыл бұрын
He picked his paycheque over his integrity.
@StrawHat83
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying I agree with everything Penn said, but I think being anti-mandate and pro-vaccine is an important distinction and makes a lot of sense. Why are people arguing against individuals choosing to be vaccinated?
@chrisjohnson-tn3gl
2 жыл бұрын
@@StrawHat83 did penn at any point say he was anti-mandate? or did you mean penn is anti-mandate except for covid because everyone should just agree with the mandates anyway? from what i can tell most people are upset about being forced to take an untested emergency use vaccine (that doesnt meet the actual definition of vaccine so they changed its definition) against their will and then entirely unable to hold the creators accountable if something goes wrong. violating every sense of my body my choice, informed consent, and the nuremberg code.
@brushylake4606
2 жыл бұрын
@@StrawHat83 I don't know. I don't know anyone who would fit that description. But, that's not what I'm talking about. From what I heard, basically Penn is no longer a libertarian because he doesn't like Trump. I can respect someone who changes their principles because of some specific event. But, Penn's description of his "conversion" basically distills down to "I don't like Trump" and "I'm afraid of Covid". His reasoning, such as it is, is simply nonsensical.
@tubetorpedo
2 жыл бұрын
@@brushylake4606 _"But, Penn's description of his "conversion" basically distills down to "I don't like Trump" and "I'm afraid of Covid"_ Penn should have just taken the vaccination Trump has been strong advocate from the start (whole operation warp speed in spring 2020) and thus be safe from Covid.
@vincesmith2499
8 ай бұрын
Jillette is still a libertarian, in my book. He is a decent person too.
@555Trout
2 жыл бұрын
Who cares? Oh Reason, how you have fallen.
@voluntaryjerry9835
2 жыл бұрын
No
@kristinaolson77
2 жыл бұрын
No policies, just garbage feelings. Losing respect for Penn, and I could care less about Trump.
@Meton2526
2 жыл бұрын
You COULD care less, so you do care some for Trump? I'd figure someone would care so little that they could not care less about Trump if they lost respect for Penn over this.
@kristinaolson77
2 жыл бұрын
@@Meton2526 His only hatred for Trump is because of his feelings. That's woke BS. Most people in the country especially minorities (which Penn said Trump is a racist) did better under Trump. I'd like to know what policies Penn didn't like. I can't stand Obama, but I liked when he gave all those pardons. I liked that policy. I hated his Healthcare policy. Just want a policy, not feelings.
@Meton2526
2 жыл бұрын
@@kristinaolson77 WHOOOOOSH I'm making fun of the fact that you said "I could care less" which is a common mistake of not understanding what "I could NOT care less" means.
@kristinaolson77
2 жыл бұрын
@@Meton2526 oooooh. You got me!
@WakeRunSleep
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how a borderline libertarian can’t come out of 2020 thinking the government should have less power
@shawnmichaels1150
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Makes you question all of his instincts.
@kanaric
2 жыл бұрын
I came out thinking the government needs the power it had in the 1950s-60s and that the this fake "liberty" chaos actor movement by anarchists needs to be destroyed by FBI and ATF bullets if necessary.
@pablogayhart3050
2 жыл бұрын
He pretty much tells on himself at 32:11 by saying he doesn't believe in evil. It's that level of naivety and the hubris of post modernism that has gotten us stuck in this satanic self-mutalating sludge.
@chrisjohnson-tn3gl
2 жыл бұрын
even old guys like to do the cool thing without really thinking it through
@johnfranklin8319
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. 2020 and CVD has shook my faith in the American People right down to its foundations!! The tyranny I witnessed with restrictions and trampling of our constitution rights and to have the American People roll over and take it shocked me. I’ll never look at this country and it’s people the same as long as I live.
@dark_mode
2 жыл бұрын
Can't blame Penn. He's living the good life shilling for the ruling regime. Cool gig.
@kasimirfreeman
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he's not the one culturally enriched, forced to abandon body autonomy to work, or getting blasted in gun safe zones. He "cares".
@godseed7984
2 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong.
@UmaROMC
2 жыл бұрын
You can be goddamn sure I'm going to blame him. Just as much as all the people who played ball with commies, nazis, monarchists eyc etc for their own short term narrow gain.
@sanriosonderweg
2 жыл бұрын
Would be true if he were young and still building a career, now he bends the knee out of habit, its sad.
@farmyardfab
2 жыл бұрын
He is exactly the type of libertarian that Hoppe warned us about.
@drowjack
2 жыл бұрын
You mean a liberal
@Marshall1914
2 жыл бұрын
Ye
@HarryPainter
2 жыл бұрын
🚁
@farmyardfab
2 жыл бұрын
@@HarryPainter a connoisseur of South American culture, I see.
@Marshall1914
2 жыл бұрын
🚁 💃☭ 🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊
@daskalman
2 жыл бұрын
Those who'd sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.
@sooofisticated0499
2 жыл бұрын
Early in the interview he refers to institutional power as, "the grown ups." The last thing the government has behaved like is the, "grown ups." COVID did a number on the guy. If he trusts institutional power and sees them as parental figures, he was never a libertarian. As an atheist his brush with death probably maddened him slightly, and he refers to covid times (while living in Hollywood, btw) as, "a blur." I have health problems that have threatened my life, I never then lost my ability to think rationally. Another casualty of Hollywood culture.
@sebastiansirvas1530
2 жыл бұрын
@Down with Corporate Amerika What you are complaining about was caused by a chain of government abuse. "In 1910, the physician oligopoly was started during the Republican administration of William Taft after the American Medical Association lobbied the states to strengthen the regulation of medical licensure and allow their state AMA offices to oversee the closure or merger of nearly half of medical schools and also the reduction of class sizes. The states have been subsidizing the education of the number of doctors recommended by the AMA. In 1925, prescription drug monopolies begun after the federal government led by Republican President Calvin Coolidge started allowing the patenting of drugs. (Drug monopolies have also been promoted by government research and development subsidies targeted to favored pharmaceutical companies.) In 1945, buyer monopolization begun after the McCarran-Ferguson Act led by the Roosevelt Administration exempted the business of medical insurance from most federal regulation, including antitrust laws. (States have also more recently contributed to the monopolization by requiring health care plans to meet standards for coverage.) In 1946, institutional provider monopolization begun after favored hospitals received federal subsidies (matching grants and loans) provided under the Hospital Survey and Construction Act passed during the Truman Administration. (States have also been exempting non-profit hospitals from antitrust laws.) In 1951, employers started to become the dominant third-party insurance buyer during the Truman Administration after the Internal Revenue Service declared group premiums tax-deductible. In 1965, nationalization was started with a government buyer monopoly after the Johnson Administration led passage of Medicare and Medicaid which provided health insurance for the elderly and poor, respectively. In 1972, institutional provider monopolization was strengthened after the Nixon Administration started restricting the supply of hospitals by requiring federal certificate-of-need for the construction of medical facilities. In 1974, buyer monopolization was strengthened during the Nixon Administration after the Employee Retirement Income Security Act exempted employee health benefit plans offered by large employers (e.g., HMOs) from state regulations and lawsuits (e.g., brought by people denied coverage). In 1984, prescription drug monopolies were strengthened during the Reagan Administration after the Drug Price Competition and Patent Term Restoration Act permitted the extension of patents beyond 20 years. (The government has also allowed pharmaceuticals companies to bribe physicians to prescribe more expensive drugs.) In 2003, prescription drug monopolies were strengthened during the Bush Administration after the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act provided subsidies to the elderly for drugs. In 2014, nationalization will be strengthened after the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 (“Obamacare”) provided mandates, subsidies and insurance exchanges, and the expansion of Medicaid."
@chrisdaly9863
2 жыл бұрын
And the vegan diet
@sanriosonderweg
2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Enron the smartest guys in the room title. He once railed at religion, but he now just believes in a different set of priests. The type that worships appearances, look the part, sound the part, Sorkin's West Wing/NPR credibility voice, but even that is breaking down. He's a magician who can't tell if the most powerful trick is still working.
@Hibernial
2 жыл бұрын
@Down with Corporate Amerika Trusting big pharma to manage the centralization and planning of medical services reallocated by force through the very bureaucracy you mislabel as a for profit system is the entire problem of going by what's taught by government schools and universities, cemented further by the corporate press. Post lockdown era proves where centralized medical planning leads to, which is a medical caste system based solely around political control. You scapegoat greed onto the voluntary sector, which routinely suffers from the destructive hand of unqualified organizers in the political sector. They care for control far more than profit, and profit is the only means of which practically the nonpolitical person can generate wealth and accrue resources for himself. The rampant destruction of socialized planning is so obvious at this point post 2020 that a person must be a fool to trust blindly in the State. Or some must merely be just disingenuous in their question begging, and would only genuinely wish the destruction of voluntary and peaceful people by vilifying their creating better lives for themselves.
@jthemagicrobot3960
2 жыл бұрын
@Down with Corporate Amerika health care in the US isn't in a free market it's heavily socialzed and regulated
@watchdealer11
2 жыл бұрын
Why do we never hear from Teller? 😂
@karozans
2 жыл бұрын
Probably doesn't have much to say.
@victorfox9623
2 жыл бұрын
Teller is smart enough to keep his mouth shut and take the money.
@lsh3rd
2 жыл бұрын
He should do a podcast... 45 minutes of silence.
@barryfortier6377
2 жыл бұрын
He played the father of Amy on the big bang theory, several episodes, a handful of lines. Also showed up (and spoke several lines) in one of the atlas shrugged series of episodic movies.
@RonHelton
2 жыл бұрын
One's views on liberty should not change just because one is more cognizant of their impending end. That is what we see here with Penn. He is more concerned about his life than his liberty. Such a shame. Penn was a great mouthpiece for liberty in the past. #RIPLiberty
@Raiver-of-Eridu
2 жыл бұрын
He was the mouthpiece of responsible liberty and still is. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
@chrimony
2 жыл бұрын
@@Raiver-of-Eridu No, he is in favor of worthless mandates that take away personal responsibility and individual freedom.
@ShikiByakko
2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't said it better. If anything, this panic put people to the test. When things get really difficult, it is when people truly show who they are. I saw so many people who claimed to be libertarian going to be pro-lockdowns and pro-mandates so quickly it was hilarious, and also I saw many people who were supposedly leftists who actually were anti-lockdowns and anti-mandates and showed that in the places where it matters the most, they were actually way more libertarian than self claimed libertarians.
@sergiootero5904
2 жыл бұрын
Some ppl would rather be safe than free
@foadnwol6684
2 жыл бұрын
@@Raiver-of-Eridu "responsible liberty" is mandating waxxines? Cuz that's what both he and Nick advocate.
@bui77
2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry Nick but you're losing me on this you don't have to lie about him the guy was an ass but don't lie about him
@ruskininja6168
2 жыл бұрын
Nick's line about him not liking Trump because of his rhetoric against Mexicans infuriated me. The only way to make that argument is to cut a single excerpt out of context. If you look at Hispanic polling (and anecdotal conversations), Mexican-Americans have only grown and to continue to grow in their approval of him. Nick is a picturesque example of the "caring white liberal" that Thomas Sewell and Malcolm X warned about; being angry on behalf of those poor, stupid minorities. To quote a previous Reason skit... "please quit making me defend Trump." Push against what he actually screwed up instead of attacking the strawman. There is plenty of good criticism to make, but he decided to poison the well with that fallacious opening critique.
@JakeWitmer
2 жыл бұрын
@@ruskininja6168 It's perfectly reasonable "being angry on behalf of those poor, stupid minorities." ...The smallest minority is one. ...And...look around you...you can't argue that Americans of any political minority aren't "poor and stupid." Whether "unwittingly self-destructive" because of bad schooling or natural lack of processing power, the outcome is the same.
@seancarristhebest
2 жыл бұрын
Damn. Lost alot of respect for Penn. And hes been a major influence on me. Im sure he will never read this, but i wish someone would remind Penn that just because some people use freedom in a way you dont agree with, doesnt mean their freedom should be taken away, or that they are doing it wrong.
@fortusvictus8297
2 жыл бұрын
Many wearing a Libertarian name tag are actually just Libertines. It's a real problem in the LP
@Justanotherconsumer
2 жыл бұрын
There’s a distinction between being a libertarian and being an anarchist. Maximizing liberty requires constraints on those who would use their liberties to trample on the liberties of others. “If you don’t like the way I drive stay off the sidewalk” is not inherently Libertarian.
@shakya00
2 жыл бұрын
@@Justanotherconsumer Yes but the analogy was used by Penn to justify the fact that not wearing a mask was risking people around you and thus - I suppose - : masks should be mandatory. Which is complete BS....
@billmankin6204
2 жыл бұрын
It's not about just masks being mandatory. When you drive on a road, you agree to show your competence by having a license, and your responsibility by having a car that is safe for the road and by having insurance or self insuring by a bond. IMO as a long time libertarian, those conditions are not unreasonable, and neither is the requirement you are going to mask up if you are in my face. We CAN have a reasonable argument about under what conditions all of these are necessary.
@fortusvictus8297
2 жыл бұрын
@@billmankin6204 Requiring masks to participate in society is legally a restriction on freedom of movement. House arrest technically. And that is not even getting into the logic or science at all, just legally it is depriving you of due process as guaranteed by the Bill of Rights and 14th Amendment. Driving a car is not protected as it is a privilege (under property ownership laws) and not a right.
@BryanChandlerStL
2 жыл бұрын
Penn is so in love with The Science (tm) that he can't recognize Institutional Capture when it's right in front of his face.
@tubetorpedo
2 жыл бұрын
It's better to love scientific method.
@mathman43
2 жыл бұрын
@@tubetorpedo Yes and like Richard Feynman said, "the only thing we can say about this theory is that it hasn't been proved wrong yet."
@mugsofmirth8101
2 жыл бұрын
@@mathman43 except when it comes to the CDC's theories they have ALL been PROVEN WRONG.
@AnonYmous-jf8jj
2 жыл бұрын
@@mugsofmirth8101 Those aren't theories. Look up the scientific definition of theory.
@mugsofmirth8101
2 жыл бұрын
@@AnonYmous-jf8jj I did and your CDC theory is DEBUNKED.
@DogeMcLovin
2 жыл бұрын
Is ReasonTV still libertarian?
@barfo281
2 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@SniperDizzyJohny
2 жыл бұрын
Is ReasonTV Not RetardTV
@NeonAnimeDreams
2 жыл бұрын
Not really, more like liberal with slight libertarian leanings.
@ItzBreeschanel
2 жыл бұрын
Had to stop listening to this. Both are full of crap.
@blackonblack...9244
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he should understand that most Libertarianism is meant for less government and more personal responsibility. But that's too much to ask these days.
@WinginWolf
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Guns for one. Lot of lack of personal responsibility there. We don’t/shouldn’t need laws to have discipline!
@Raiver-of-Eridu
2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what he always thought. But he woke up to the fact that libertarians were for the former and showed none of the latter.
@Gary_oldmans_left_nut
2 жыл бұрын
@@Raiver-of-Eridu based
@ShikiByakko
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, the whole "What do we do about the immunocompromised" part really triggered me a lot, because not only that has existed way before covid and he never seemed to give a fuck before covid, but sadly it is a problem of personal responsibility. You are responsable for your own health. If you are immunocompromised you change your behavior to lower your risk, you don't expect all of society to change their behavior for your sole benefit.
@acex222
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShikiByakko If you think he didn't give a fuck before covid you really didn't watch much of his stuff.
@Nah_Bohdi
2 жыл бұрын
Jesus...his political lens is that of a teenager, reminds me of my late teens.
@JakeWitmer
2 жыл бұрын
there's an awesome Nolan chart meme that shows a yammerhead kid saying "I used to be a libertarian, then I became a post-modernist neo-marxist furry, then I became a republican, then I joined the SDS and became a social Democrat..." He's asked how old he is, and he says "14" ...and when you realize that many human brains are just plain idiotic and self-contradictory in exactly that way, a lot of the picture comes into focus
@tallard666
2 жыл бұрын
He's always been that way. I was quite involved in the atheist community in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, and quit the atheist community because of the dominance of his kind of superficial "gotcha" atheism which was not improvement of society related, but self-aggrandising. A magician is always just a trickster.
@edmckay8001
2 жыл бұрын
How did your teens die?
@electrictroy2010
2 жыл бұрын
Libertarian =/= anarchist. Even Thomas Jefferson said “No man has a right to harm another” and government should restrain that man from doing harm .
@NeonAnimeDreams
Жыл бұрын
@electrictroy2010 Jefferson was a proto libertarian anarchist in the making for sure, if only more presidents had been like him....
@jt5747
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a scared old man. He's trying to assuage those feelings by trying to control others. If he can just do that, he can feel safe. Typical, and sad.
@danielhopkins296
2 жыл бұрын
None of them appear to claim they are libertarian but they spend a lot of time talk about libertarian: strange
@TugHillGuy
2 жыл бұрын
I'm questioning whether Penn ever was a libertarian. It's easy to have libertarian opinions when things are fine but it requires true convictions to stick to libertarian principles when you're in a difficult nationwide/worldwide phenomenon like a pandemic or have a president who you personally despise.
@giantsr1eva
2 жыл бұрын
@George Washburn He was never a true libertarian, he supported Walmart on his Penn and Teller BS show. Walmart is the most anti libertarian store out there. They lobby the government to force their competitors to have higher prices so everyone would shop at Walmart.
@tboyd5150
2 жыл бұрын
Good point. When he celebrated Newsome's victory in the recall I knew the old Penn was dead and buried.
@megananderson2618
2 жыл бұрын
He even looks like a different person, and not in a good way. 😕
@bdonovable
2 жыл бұрын
It's like the left or right people who claim to be free speech advocates until they hear speech they disagree with.
@joelhorton5895
2 жыл бұрын
I think he was always a little more of a contrarian and provocateur in the name of comedy and desire for fame
@TheTicktockman321
2 жыл бұрын
Aren't these guys in their 60's? How can you be a grown man and still believe so much of the BS that they are just tossing out there as facts? It is disappointing. I can see the 20-somethings being this lazy but at some point you need to evolve. These guys shouldn't be insulting anyone else's intelligence.
@barrydworak
2 жыл бұрын
I have self-quarantined three times. Never have gotten a positive COVID test result, but I had some mild symptoms and I work with clients all over the area. I have done everything I could, to avoid putting anyone at risk, at my expense. Do I wear a mask? No, I don't, at least most of the time. Neither empirical studies nor theory, suggest that they are at all effective, with the possible exception of properly worn and frequently disposed-of N95 masks which might have a minimal effect. If I really need to wear a mask, say in a medical office, I wear a rated mask that might possibly be slightly effective. I refuse to wear a costume mask, which includes the surgical masks that they give out -- you breathe right around them, in use. This isn't because I'm a libertarian. It's because I'm skeptical, I do my best to be scientifically informed, and I strive to be authentic. I want freedom for individuals, my values include responsibility, and I also want to see the evidence. That USED to describe Penn.
@fogandwhirlwind
2 жыл бұрын
Boom!
@UserNameAnonymous
2 жыл бұрын
The effectiveness of surgical masks has been well-documented in peer-reviewed, scientific studies. Surgeons don't wear them for fun.
@barrydworak
2 жыл бұрын
@@UserNameAnonymous surgeons don't wear them to prevent the transmission of airborne pathogens.
@UserNameAnonymous
2 жыл бұрын
@@barrydworak - Right. They wear them to block microscopic droplets of saliva.
@barrydworak
2 жыл бұрын
@@UserNameAnonymous block, not filter. COVID is airborne and spreads from the upper respiratory tract. A properly fitted filter mask like an N95 blocks saliva drops AND filters exhaled air. And to to the best of my knowledge, only this type of mask has been shown to slow the spread of COVID specifically (and then only by about 20% but it's something, anyway).
@Nothingtoya
2 жыл бұрын
This is hard to watch. He's an old man with insane thoughts. What use to be, is no more.
@holidaytrout5174
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a libertarian and I was pro mask and vaccine, but against a vaccine mandate. I think its fine for businesses to mandate it for entry. I don't really like Trump either. I don't feel like this makes me less libertarian.
@usffan5775
2 жыл бұрын
I guess we can ignore how government coerced these companies to do their bidding, so Libertarians like you can talk about how it's all voluntary
@holidaytrout5174
2 жыл бұрын
@@usffan5775 i don't think the government should mandate companies to do it
@usffan5775
2 жыл бұрын
@@holidaytrout5174 I don't mind a business doing what they want either. 100%. But when I recognize the strong arm pressure that government put on a majority of business to comply with covid madness, I start to side with Republicans like DeSantis who fought against mandates. This way, at least individuals can choose. It's not a perfect solution, but it's the only option we had
@tallard666
2 жыл бұрын
There's no distinction. Governments offloading authoritarianism onto businesses so as to remove pressure on themselves is plain dishonest. #BanAllMandates
@angelozachos8777
2 жыл бұрын
@@holidaytrout5174 So you think it’s fine for businesses , aka NON STATE ACTORS , to enforce vaccine compliance ? So you are comfortable with someone who is NOT law enforcement , nonetheless requesting our papers and private medical records ? Here in the West, we’ve worked very hard to have confidentiality enshrined in the law ( ie Patient and Doctor or Client and Lawyer privilege ) and have put a lot of effort into safeguarding access to medical records by those not authorized or entitled. This changes now because of a short-lived bad respiratory illness ? 🤷♂️ Wow 😯!
@mikenagy938
2 жыл бұрын
As soon as he starts talking about how wonderful wearing a mask is I know he has lost any ability to reason. The virus is 17 times smaller than the weave of a mask and how many times were we told they don't work? Yet he carries on with the line. No respect.
@tubetorpedo
2 жыл бұрын
You should just wear few more mask on top of each other. That'll help for sure. Let's call them _booster masks._
@dejectedfrogcat2840
2 жыл бұрын
I'm against mask mandate. But you really got how these masks work wrong. Imagine you're a bird trying to fly through a dense forest as fast as you could. The gap between the trees are several times bigger than you are. But if you just fly straight through, you're most definitely going to hit a tree and not make it out of the other side. That's basically how a PROPERLY FITTED mask works (anything else are just costume pieces). And depend on the type, the mask could also be statically charged and actively attracts particles as air moves through.
@aleclievens8769
2 жыл бұрын
It's spread through water droplets that get caught on the mask
@bradhartliep879
2 жыл бұрын
Stop #Lying to the People and Try talking to a REAL DOCTOR - Masks have been PROVEN to work if you wear them properly .. You don't understand the SCIENCE of WHY they work ..
@joecoolioness6399
2 жыл бұрын
You are aware that you have mucus and saliva and that is what you expel when you breath, cough, or sneeze. The virus is contained in those droplets which is what the mask is capturing. I shake my head when people like you spout this complete lack of understanding. Masks, when properly used, prevent the spread of disease. I am against the mandates just to be clear, this should be left up to the individual to choose. But at the same time, business owners should have the choice to not let you in their store if you are not wearing one. At 7-Eleven it says "no shirt, no shoes, no service". Does that mean 7-Eleven is forcing you to wear a shirt? No. It just means if you choose not to wear one they will not serve you.
@johnfranklin8319
2 жыл бұрын
I can’t get over how they are ranting on about Trump so much, at a time of the current Wreck that in the White House now.
@Eagles2777
2 жыл бұрын
Being pro-vax but anti-mandate is perfectly consistent with libertarianism. I do wonder why he uses the one group that asked him to speak at a rally as a proxy for all libertarians. He has no way of knowing how representative that group was/is.
@Hibernial
2 жыл бұрын
That the corporate press and its sympathizers present a strictly pro or anti view on vaccinations is propaganda through lying by omission. That is not how normal people think nor view things in life across the board. Every opportunity of choice that presents itself to an individual at any given moment is a tradeoff. The fact that record inflation and mandatory lockdowns occurred where at the same time the subsidized manufacturing of State funded vaccines also occurred was deliberate coercion with a first event giving credence to the second. Without the first event there is no scenario where the second follows, and coercion would not be viewed as preferable because it could have no reason to be presented in such a way. That overarching narrative and bending towards it should answer in effect as to how, rather than why, he uses one group as proxy. It's framing, not inquiring.
@weshamner694
2 жыл бұрын
It does seem to have become a very vocal group claiming the title of libertarian.
@DM-mb3uz
2 жыл бұрын
Canpaigns for Gavin Newsom: “I’m still a libertarian!” Yeah. Ok…
@matthewschwartz6607
2 жыл бұрын
Newsom is highly respected . What is wrong with that?
@gnomatic
Жыл бұрын
Makes more sense than libertarians for Trump. California does have legal weed, abortion rights, and supports freedom of movement compared to Republican states. If he was pro gun, I would suck that man's penis.
@chickenfishhybrid44
2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I'm 15 minutes in and i couldn't be less interested
@JakeWitmer
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah...doddering
@DanHowardMtl
2 жыл бұрын
Worst cases of TDS I've heard in a long time. Seek help!
@MS-ig7ku
Жыл бұрын
It is so pathetic.
@WillCarter1976
2 жыл бұрын
Penn jillette has gone from telling jokes, to being the punchline.
@strawbertco
2 жыл бұрын
it sucks to think that but yeah
@MC-dn8if
2 жыл бұрын
But by embracing the socialist left he gets on TV so has been laughing all the way to the bank. He’s just another sellout.
@LiberatedCastaway1
2 жыл бұрын
True sadly.
@WillCarter1976
2 жыл бұрын
If the comments section is anything to go by, Nick and Penn are both regretting this episode.
@JoeKnows44
Жыл бұрын
Only with the people like you who the majority of us are laughing at.
@ShinAkuma204
2 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing interview for all the wrong reasons. We have a group of people who seemingly think they got it together, repeating objectively verifiable lies. (Trump/Mexicans) Penn has been an icon of reason and scrutiny for decades, yet is incapable of pursuing actual truth. This is not a defense of Trump, he has many flaws, but there is an antireality that "intellectuals" believe in that is shocking. Even Penn's views on libertarianism is kinda wack. This is wild and completely reveals that these (Penn was a hero of mine) people are not nearly as intelligent, or has it together, as we have been led to believe. I will give them credit for recognizing that Trump was less of a warmonger than previous admins. Has it always been this way and we just never noticed? Think about how Penn ends this off - He would rather have a "sane" person making bad policy decisions, for example killing innocent people in the middle east, than a "lunatic" making good policy decision, not killing people innocent people in the middle east. There is never been a more antilogic position than that. The voice of reason is now mute.
@rosselliot8971
2 жыл бұрын
" He would rather have a "sane" person making bad policy decisions, for example killing innocent people in the middle east, than a "lunatic" making good policy decision" That's actually the definition of Trump Derangement Syndrome. In 2020 many knew Biden was a disaster in the making but openly said they'd rather have him than Trump regardless of the policies each advocated. It's also called cultural suicide.
@MikeStallings2023
2 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm saying. All they had to do was watch the full unedited videos for themselves. If they are that lazy then they deserve to be stupid. It is scary isn't it. Because we also were once stupid, apparently. I'm starting to believe that it has always been this way. Trump's true legacy was teaching us that news, and even most history, is all fake. I now have to reevaluate everything I ever believed since I thought as was an intellectual college student, many years ago.
@mugsofmirth8101
2 жыл бұрын
Penn was only touted as a "voice of reason" by his atheist/leftist comrades for obvious reasons.
@wesjones6370
2 жыл бұрын
George Orwell once said "There are some ideas so stupid only intellectuals believe them." The concept of bad decisions coming from echo chambers is very understood in psychology today. It can lead a room full of intelligent men to all agree that launching the bay of pigs attack was a good idea, even though virtually every one of them realized how profoundly foolish and stupid it was years later. A lot of people in show business are detached from reality, and have lost all sense of life for people as a result. It leads to much of what we see. The voice of reason is mute indeed...because we elevate the views of these people so disconnected from reality.
@tallard666
2 жыл бұрын
Penn wasn't an icon of science. He BELIEVED in the science, he's a trickster, which makes him no different than any other person of faith.
@richctv
2 жыл бұрын
"Emotional reaction". He's being honest and frank there. There's no place in entertainment circles unless you embrace the progressive left positions and policies. The emotional reaction being Fear. Fear as a Libertarian he would be labeled Far Right. So he folded like a house of cards on his principles.
@MikeStallings2023
2 жыл бұрын
Ah you nailed it. It is hard to make a man disagree with that with which his money depends on. This is so true and I didn't really think about it about it until just now. Of course Gillette is going to become a brain dead liberal otherwise he would be kicked out of the club.
@vladtheimpala5532
2 жыл бұрын
It does seem that way. I’m disappointed. I’ve always thought quite highly of him. I frequently disagree with him but I thought he was an honest man. I’m a little disappointed in Nick Gillespie too.
@cfluff6716
2 жыл бұрын
@@vladtheimpala5532 Oh Gillespie has been unbearable for a while now
@tallard666
2 жыл бұрын
He never "folded". He was delusional and doctrinaire back then too. Most Humanist-adjacent (Humanism the religion) are just as deluded as any other religion. They believe in the Spockish "live long and prosper".
@20mik20
2 жыл бұрын
Not mask waering equal to driving drunk? That did not age well. Lol
@JChang0114
2 жыл бұрын
If Penn believes in masks why is he not wearing a mask during the interview?
@tom_ad9343
2 жыл бұрын
Most/all so called libertarian's masks have come off by now...
@kristinaolson77
2 жыл бұрын
Must be on the 6 ft BS bandwagon too
@vidyanandbapat8032
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who supports face Diapers and Vaccines, atleast a mandate for it, cannot be called a libertarian.
@Raiver-of-Eridu
2 жыл бұрын
Because it's not 2020 and he is vaccinated.
@JChang0114
2 жыл бұрын
@@Raiver-of-Eridu Vaccinated people can still spread the virus especially if he did not get ALL the multiple boosters. As to it not being 2020, doesn't the flu kill people and won't masks stop it? Now, the flu probably kills less than COVID but it is still risking lives.
@ScienceSleuths89
2 жыл бұрын
the short answer is no. the long answer is no he is not.
@shad2529
2 жыл бұрын
Short answer: no Long answer: he never was
@bennyhannah6562
2 жыл бұрын
Tell me more
@electrictroy2010
2 жыл бұрын
Libertarian =/= anarchist. Even Thomas Jefferson said “No man has a right to harm another” and government should restrain that man from doing harm .
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