Hopefully this will push them to re-vamp the 24-70 to PLM or DC, and maybe also get on the band-wagon with a ~200-600 DC
@robvandenbrink9006
4 күн бұрын
Big news apparently, over 10 notifies between email and socials They’ve got my money once it’s on a shelf to buy!
@christopherward5065
4 күн бұрын
An intriguing read. The new camera would need to be a major leap forwards and be a state of the art iteration of the DSLR form. Hard to tell if it was just a well informed opinion piece or a chat GPT “what if”. The K1iii is imminent and stands to be special regardless of what’s been examined in this article. I am tempted to suppose that CF Express will be needed to cope with the projected specifications. Pentax will work it out for most real world use cases rather than for some flashy moon-shot cases that literally need you to leave the planet for. It’s going to be good, I think. Thanks for presenting this Kobie.
@billlandenberger4505
3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the summary Kobie. In answer to your query about manufacturing in Vietnam, I wondered the same thing. But from what I gather, Pentax have shut down their manufacturing plant in the Philippines and have 'consolidated' manufacturing with the lens production plant in Vietnam. The Pentax 17 as well as more recent versions of the K3iii have a 'manufactured in Vietnam' label on them. So again - plausible.
@Gynra
3 күн бұрын
My K-3 iii Jet Black was made in the Philippines, but my K-3 iii Monochrome was made in Vietnam, so I think you are right,
@raphaelmabo5014
12 сағат бұрын
The latest produced units are all made in Vietnam. The Phillipines facilities became too big (and too costly) when Pentax sales declined from the market peak in 2010, so it wasn't economical sustainable to keep it.
@scrptwic
4 күн бұрын
Kobie Interesting Iwould like to see Pentax put out a new full frame DSLR It shows Pentax is still a player in the camera industry.
@findefuchs
4 күн бұрын
The fastest full-frame DSLR is the Canon EOS 1DX III, it can do 16 fps with mirror and mechanical shutter. So if the K-1 III manages 16.5 fps I'm impressed!
@jimzielinski946
5 күн бұрын
Great to hear that they may be seriously working on a new model. As long as Pentax accepts that they are a niche brand, they should strongly try to think outside of the box. I've heard that at least one old canon model was hacked by hobbyists so that they can custom modify the software. Pentax should either open up the software or at least give programmers an API - many hobbyists would go nuts over this. Along with that, they should provide their tethering software for free. I'd like to see Pentax make their mount modular - I know this would be hard to accomplish, but I think pentaxians would find it interesting to be able to use open mount lenses like the E and L mount lenses.
@richardhale9664
4 күн бұрын
"As long as Pentax accepts that they are a niche brand, they should strongly try to think outside of the box". Indeed, my thoughts exactly. I have my own ideas and opinions of what that niche may be (they differ from yours) but the point still stands, and I believe they are capable of doing so as the film photography project shows. Sure as eggs is eggs, an incremental improvement to the K1 ii is not going to set the world alight, given that digital cameras of all ilk have already been so good for so long and the widespread social media bias against DSLRs and Pentax in particular.
@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x
Күн бұрын
I wish they'd develop upcoming lenses to work for both K and EF mount. There'd be decent demand!
@robvandenbrink9006
4 күн бұрын
It all sounds great, I saw the mention of CF Express also. At ~60Mp and everything else mentioned, I’m in! (if it’s all true that is)
@stevenjohnson4283
4 күн бұрын
Pentax was originally German, well the name Pentax was taken from Pentaprism and Contax and madeinto Pent-ax. This happened after WW2 because a lot of Germany's camera industry fell under East German USSR occupation, and in the sorting out of brand names, the "Pentax" model name was sold to Japan and the German designed M42 rights to Pentax/Asahi. Its basically an Axis foces camera I just realised. But so is Nikon after Germany's Ikon camera merged with Nippon cameras. Cosina bought Voightlander and also makes Zeiss lenses and other products. So because Pentax is from Germany originally, Pentax Japan might be using Pentax in Germany to release this information. I do not think that the K-1iii will have the fastest continuous shooting mode in the industry, that probably belongs to the Sony A9iii. Its just the translation makes it sound like thats what its saying. So the buffer chip they're after is more of a dslr era chip rather than a mirrorless 30fps endless buffers, and so they have to seek that out specifically. Its not going to be mirrorless 30fps, but maybe 10-12fps. I'm personally skeptical of this information because Pentax would have made a video from Japan that they're putting the K-1iii into production. I recall they had announced the K-3iii well ahead of its release and then there was a delay, and finally it appeared. So just dropping a K-1iii will not prepare the Pentax users for gathering together their penny jars, or cut back on their food budgets to save up for this release. They need to give at least a years notice that its coming and not like this, that its entering into production......... Usually the previous model has to be discontinued for a few months before they release the following model. There are large numbers of K-1ii models on my Ricoh website so I do not see it yet, unless Pentax will keep the K-1mark 2 as the lower spec model and this new K-1 mark 3 as the higher spec professional model, kind of like how Sony has the A7 and A7R. So if this is true, then a K-1iii might be here before Christmas, just in time for our countries economic recession. kosmofoto.com/2019/10/the-first-pentax-camera-was-east-german/
@Mr.Thermistor7228
4 күн бұрын
not a freaking snowballs chance in hell that it will be released and on shelves by Christmas that physically is not possible
@sdhute
4 күн бұрын
I’m curious most in the mention of two different body types. Is one of those going to be the new 645 medium format? Or maybe a new entry level apsc camera. Or what I would like is a fixed lenses full frame camera.
@andrewleno591
2 күн бұрын
I believe that for Pentax is absolutely not enough to just release a new Pentax K1-III which must be their top camera but also a new latest and greatest lenses and not just one but a few. They already have a lot of old lenses in their current lineup which need replacement. Would be really nice to get new FF: 50mm*, 135mm*, 200mm*, 300mm* and 400mm*. They need new products to be available to make people excited about and buy it... If they can't do it in-house then some lens designs they can outsource from Sigma, Tamron, Irix...
@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x
Күн бұрын
3rd party has stopped dslr lens development. We'll see only a few lenses. But in world where 'more AI' is main update to mirrorless cameras, just getting quality DSLR with basic lenses might be good enough in a niche of 'purist' photography enthusiasts.
@cdrkennon
4 күн бұрын
The issue with ‘covering medium format market’ is lenses for the 645 can’t work on a K model. So, no value to existing 645 users.
@jimzielinski946
4 күн бұрын
@@cdrkennon I happen to have a 645 to K mt adapter - also a 6x7 to k mt adapter. I believe in both cases, it's manual mode only. I tend to shoot mostly in manual mode anyway, so I've hung on to my medium format collection.
@robvandenbrink9006
4 күн бұрын
I think the comment was to fill the IQ / pixel count gap left by retiring the 645 models, not to re-use those older style (but still great) lenses. Though you def could use those lenses with the right adapter and enough exersize to help you carry that glass around
@jimzielinski946
4 күн бұрын
@@robvandenbrink9006 good points. Yes, the old lenses are heavy!
@billkennon319
4 күн бұрын
@@robvandenbrink9006 Could be! I wonder how many medium-format users will be swayed by this? One of the subtleties of medium format is larger pixels which can give better color quality and tonal range. Newer sensors in all digital cameras are getting better and better, though. So, if a 645 user has $$$ invested in their body(s) and lenses, will they trade them off for a new K1 III with high pixel count or continue with their current investment? I have no idea. What I do hope is we see the K1 III sooner rather than later. I have some overseas travel coming up and would love to give the camera a workout while traveling.
@cdrkennon
Күн бұрын
@@jimzielinski946 Fascinating! I had no idea that is possible. That does open up a great use case.
@joedusel
4 күн бұрын
Yikes, if this info is not bogus and the camera has a price tag of around $4400 (4000 Euro) I am out. LOL, I'd be waiting around 3 or 4 years to find a low mileage used one on ebay. Or, I would be looking at a Sony body and a Monster adaptor.
@barryhiggott9458
4 күн бұрын
I believe rumours when I see the end result, until then I just hope.
@tomsun3159
4 күн бұрын
It is astonishing how a forumthread in a german forum shake the Pentax world, i'm following this thread since the beginning. For me the biggest questionmark/inconsistency is in the type of memory modules. Taken into account the claimed video capabilities what constant write Rate do i need for 4K Video or higher (assuming 4K/120 or 8K/30, does the specification of SD-XC allow that? The most intersting part is the current line-up of FF-lenses do the render accordingly to the needs of a 61MP sensor, or does the majaority of lenses to be renewed (Namely the holy trinity, but also interesting lenses like the samyangs 14/2,8, 85/1,4, 135/2,0, or the limited FA-HDs). The camera in my ears (despite the price) sounds to good to be true (my opinion) as it covers nearly every wish i claimed for a successor. What is missing so far in the rumours are any information regarding dynamic range. And for me the silence from Ricohs side is irritating no denial, no confirmation. I'm very curious if i have to spennd a lot of money in the next year, or an enormous amount of money, or no money.
@Mr.Thermistor7228
4 күн бұрын
i thought the same thing! it really is seeming like pretty much every single gripe people were having have to addressed and fixed, which is so unheard of from companies to do that! Lol, maybe we all just have trust issues and they actually ARE going to make all these changes and fix every issue that was brought to attention by a good amount of people. i am wishfully hoping that they actually are going to do all this. as for the silence i think that is always how Pentax has been, they stay close to the cuff and don't release hardly any information on what they are working on. it is a strategy a lot of companies go for and it does work. It drums up a lot of hype from potential customers on what the new next best thing is coming out.
@l.nauwelaerts195
4 күн бұрын
Interesting stuff to think about!
@athanassiosdesigner
2 күн бұрын
Can Pentax keep the costs of a 60MP down for a same price retail price? The answer is NO. “If Pentax were to release a future K-1 Mark III full-frame DSLR, and they aimed to price it around €2000 while offering a sensor larger than the current 36 MP, they would likely select a sensor that balances resolution, dynamic range, and affordability. Here’s what we can expect based on market trends and technology available today: Likely Sensor Characteristics for the Pentax K-1 III: Resolution: A logical step up would be to move from 36 MP to 42-45 MP. This increase provides higher resolution for landscape and studio photographers, which Pentax traditionally targets with its high-detail DSLRs. Sensors in the 40-45 MP range are common in competing cameras like the Sony A7R III (42 MP) and Nikon Z7 II (45.7 MP). Pentax might adopt a similar strategy. Sensor Type: BSI (Backside-Illuminated) CMOS: Pentax would likely use a BSI sensor for improved light-gathering efficiency. This would enhance low-light performance, dynamic range, and high-ISO sensitivity. The Sony 45.7 MP sensor used in cameras like the Nikon Z7 II could be a strong candidate, as it's relatively affordable for the resolution it offers and provides excellent image quality. Pentax has used Sony sensors in the past, so this partnership would make sense. Dynamic Range and Low-Light Performance: Pentax has a strong focus on landscape photography and astrophotography, so we’d expect the sensor to offer excellent dynamic range (likely 14-15 stops) and good low-light performance despite the higher resolution. A sensor in the 42-45 MP range would still have relatively large pixels compared to higher MP sensors like the 61 MP Sony A7R V. They may improve ISO performance by integrating dual gain architecture like some of the latest BSI sensors have. Cost Constraints: Pentax will likely keep the price around €2000 by not going for cutting-edge technology like a stacked sensor (which is far more expensive). Instead, they may prioritize an existing but highly effective sensor, such as: Sony’s 42.4 MP BSI CMOS sensor used in older but still excellent cameras like the Sony A7R III or a slightly improved version of it. Video Performance (Secondary): While Pentax is more known for still photography, video performance is becoming increasingly important. They might add 4K video with 10-bit internal recording, but Pentax is unlikely to focus heavily on video, keeping costs down. Potential Sensors for the Pentax K-1 Mark III: Sony 42.4 MP BSI CMOS Sensor: This is a strong candidate as it’s already used in various full-frame cameras and is proven to deliver excellent results, balancing high resolution with good noise control. It would be an affordable option to integrate into a camera priced around €2000. Sony 45.7 MP BSI CMOS Sensor (from the Nikon Z7 II): If Pentax wanted to push the resolution further, the 45.7 MP sensor would be a great choice. It offers excellent dynamic range and low-light performance without a huge jump in cost. This sensor would position the K-1 III as a direct competitor to cameras like the Nikon Z7 II and Canon EOS R5. Why Pentax Would Choose One of These Sensors: Resolution without Compromising Dynamic Range: Both the 42 MP and 45.7 MP sensors offer higher resolution while maintaining excellent dynamic range and pixel size that’s suitable for low-light performance. Affordability: These sensors are widely used in the industry and would be more affordable than newer, cutting-edge technologies like stacked or 61 MP sensors, making it easier to hit the €2000 price point. Proven Performance: Pentax’s customers value image quality, and these sensors are well-tested in other cameras, making them safe bets for a reliable DSLR like the K-1 III. Summary: The Pentax K-1 III would most likely feature a 42-45 MP BSI CMOS sensor, possibly sourced from Sony, given their long-standing relationship. The sensor would provide higher resolution than the current 36 MP while maintaining excellent image quality and dynamic range, all while keeping the price around €2000” Source: ChatGPT
@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x
Күн бұрын
Information spare chatgpt output - probably just a bunch of pentaxforum replies glued together
@yhereynowyme
4 күн бұрын
I'll believe it when I see it and I don't think I'll ever see it.
@Mr.Thermistor7228
4 күн бұрын
i almost garuntee you will be wrong. they have to release a k1 mkiii
@GeorgeLee-c8t
3 күн бұрын
If it happens I shall be pleased for a mark 2 at a reduced price.
@lelanddyer9461
4 күн бұрын
A guy can dream! 😅❤
@MichaelRusso
4 күн бұрын
Am I happy they are talking about a new version? Yes. Will I buy it? No, My K-1 works just fine :)
@richardhale9664
5 күн бұрын
Now I can see why Pentax may need to introduce a new K1 perhaps due to availability of parts, but realistically what practical improvements could we expect to see? Faster processing and FPS, improved AF, improved dynamic range and ISO performance. As the K1 is already very good in regard to some of these and no real slouch on the others, I can't see any real reason for most people to upgrade unless cost is not an issue. For most of us it is. I would really rather see a greater lens choice for both their FF and APSC cameras.
@ffll8427
5 күн бұрын
the K1 III will be important not as a necessary upgrade for mark II owners, but as a statement piece that DSLRs will still be able to compete with the mirrorless market for years to come. If the K1 III doesn't deliver on that, it's actually game over (which other people have already called prematurely in 2017).
@SummersSnaps
4 күн бұрын
@@ffll8427 But DLSRs can't compete with the mirrorless market, the market already reflects this change. If there was any doubt here then the major companies would still be producing both, but they do not. Look... all cameras are cameras, some have different specs than others, deploy different tech, but the vast majority of the industry saw that ditching the mirror came with far too many benefits to ignore and created pathways to improvements that just can't coexist with the mirror. It's absolutely fine if the mirror is not an obstacle for a particular user and/or the perks that mirrorless cameras have are superfluous for that specific user, but that's just a singular opinion plucked from the masses. We're talking about the MARKET here, the INDUSTRY as a whole, and that conclusion happened years ago... Yes its VERY COOL that Pentax still do DSLR's, catering to a segment of the market that prefer this user experience, but that doesn't mean it stands a chance at COMPETING with the rest of the dominant market. No one is going to ditch their Sony A9III's for a K-1III etc.
@muriaticfpv2328
4 күн бұрын
You're right, probably too expensive for a lot of people. But, knowing there is a future, it will give Mark2 users more confidence to buy the new FF lens.
@richardhale9664
4 күн бұрын
@@ffll8427 Hmmm. I don't think that it is a case of competing with the mirrorless market any more. After all that market is shrinking too. I think it is a case of finding the right niche (like Leica has done). What exactly that niche is I am not certain but it must be based on the optical experience of the viewfinder, which to be fair Pentax promoted with the K3 iii. I would like Pentax to be really bold and produce a relatively compact FF DSLR. Call is the new LXd if you will. To make it compact - ditch the SR system, use the battery from the KF (but allow a battery grip option) and keep the screen from the K3 iii. To make these "loses" more marketable give it a 24mp BSI sensor which should be easy to source and would improve even further low light performance and DR, highlight how such a sensor would be more usable for legacy K mount glass, even re-release a classic MF lens and a split image micro prism focus screen option. I know this would not happen, but I do think that Pentax does need to think outside the box a bit and do something bold rather than just release a slight incremental improvement over the K1 ii, which let's be honest is likely to be slated by KZitem shills for being a) Pentax and b) a DSLR in the mirrorless age, irrespective of how good the camera may be, if they pay it any attention at all. And Pentax can be bold as the film project is showing.
@Mr.Thermistor7228
4 күн бұрын
exactly what the two above me said. Pentax needs to release a new k1 mkiii, their main flagship model, to keep them relevant in the market. it would be suicide for them not too. i do not believe that there isn't much they could improve on, there is ALWAYS more to improve on and always enough to develop into a new model no matter what company it is
@Mr.Thermistor7228
4 күн бұрын
it would be an absolute detriment to pentax as a company if they did not proceed to develope and release a new k1 markiii. there is no way they dont come out with one unless they just really plan on not being in the market of producing dslr's. They as a company NEED to keep their ultimate flagship relevant and development on it should not be stopped
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