The very first time I happened to hear Gog and Magog I felt chills doen my spine. I could not believe music could be so frightening. Guy Evans work is unmatchable in Gog. True, true dark masterpiece. Love from Italy❤
@seghj
5 ай бұрын
Without a doubt one of the most frightening pieces of music. His most extreme song!
@neilparnell5712
2 ай бұрын
@@seghj 1 - Gog / Magog 2 - The Lie 3 - A plague of lighthouse keepers. I know the last one is VdGG but the lyrics are all his.
@johng.arkenberg1070
2 жыл бұрын
Ha! I've shaved my face into that half beard. I kept it for a week and enjoyed watching people's reactions. As a huge Hammill fan I do appreciate hearing people's lists. I'll post my order once I think about it for awhile.
@ImprobableTodd
2 жыл бұрын
I did the half-shave for Halloween and walked into the bank the next day like that. Eyebrows did raise.
@DaniloJovem
2 жыл бұрын
1. Silent corner 2. In Camera 3. Chameleon 4. Over 5. Nadir 6. Fools Mate 8. PH7 9. Future Now 10. Black Box
@dantolino1093
2 жыл бұрын
I feel pretty comfortable with your list. Been listening to VDGG for 45 years.
@ImprobableTodd
2 жыл бұрын
My choices for PH’s 70s catalogue are effected by where I was living (dorms, apartments, etc.) and who I could talk into listening to them. Intoxicants may have been involved. The shock value is very high, so starting out with Modern really sets the stage… !) Silent Corner - Powerful, clever, mostly relentless with Red Shift being the respite 2) Chameleon - My favorite “sing along” album, simmering with angst 3) In Camera - Spectacular, but the Gog and Magog thing leaves me wanting 4) ph7 - Blazing otherworldly trails, more brash. And I confess that I tried not to be an energy vampire to his face. Luckily reverence won out. 5) Over - While not as seeped in the wildness, the songwriting won me over 6) Black Box - A great album but without the high points to make it truly remarkable. 7) Future - Very close with BB above; great but very no “I gotta hear that one” songs 8) Fool’s Mate - I love this album more as a taste of what’s to come than the end product then. 9) Nadir - Didn’t like this direction at all. I was repulsed by punk and discarding the need for excellence in musicianship. All that said, the two Peters - Gabriel and Hammill - are my two favorite musical forces of all time.
@Masqued1
8 ай бұрын
Silent corner and the Empty stage cover represents a womb. And I actually think the In Camera Cover is awesome Hammill looks like a true aristocrat!
@gildersleeve9033
Жыл бұрын
I am a self taught musician and have a far different take than you have on PH. I think In Camera has 17+ minutes of his worst music (if you want to call it music) ever... GOG/MAGOG has a bad vibe to it and absolutely horrible to my ears (Not Catchy nor Well Crafted). The rest of In Camera is very good & I give it the 4th position. PH is a unique artists and his fans all have their favorites for their own reasons. Cheers good video. OVER is my Favorite of all his solo work, followed by Silent, Chameleon, Camera, Nadirs as top 5 for the 70's.
@dantolino1093
2 жыл бұрын
Been listening to PH/VDGG since 1974. I'd send Over lower, and Silent Stage higher, but I pretty much agree on the rest. In camera is a masterpiece.
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@andreasghb8074
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, "In Camera" is probably my favorite PH album ever!
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
I think it might be mine too! After many years I'm always excited to hear it.
@slackdude1
2 жыл бұрын
There is also the development or evolution of his voice and vocal delivery. His earlier work had more of the choirboy element at times and each album introduced a bit more of the dark hierophant accompanied by more incisive lyrics. Going from refugees to Gog or the material on godbluff, which has a world weariness that was unusual even for him, via pawn hearts was quite a progression.. He covers all bases on in the black room. Like Edgar Allen Poe doing Bohemian Rhapsody without the more pompous segment. Great video. Explained a great deal I was unable to quite describe.
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
That's a great point about the evolution of the vocal style, probably something I could have discussed a bit more. The non-chronological format does make it a bit harder to note certain things like that.
@ThatOtherMikeyGuy
4 ай бұрын
Solid list. I'd swap Nadir & Over, personally, but chacun à son goût.
@AlbertoVO5
2 жыл бұрын
This coming from 40 years of listening during which time various were at the top. Acknowledging that the following is splitting hairs: 1. Silent Corner - for me the quintessential Hammill album viz ideas, melodies, words, vocal originality. A titanic accomplishment wherein he presents the themes he’ll revisit over a career. 2. Over - melodically beautifully raw and thematically cohesive showing an intimate vs.philosophical side of the artist. 3. A Black Box - more or less same reasons as #1 but for a later career point. 4/5. tie for In Camera (acknowledging Gog as a masterpiece) and pH7 6. Chameleon 7. The Future Now 8/9. tie for Nadir and Fools Mate
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
That's a really good description of Silent Corner and the Empty Stage!
@AlbertoVO5
2 жыл бұрын
@@electricbrainelectricshado9490 thanks!
@abarkcanoe
Жыл бұрын
Hey there! In 2023 I’ll be imploding my long time handle with the orange HoJo logo which goes back to before You Tube was owned by Google. Continuity will come via abc. Have a good sabbatical! Oh - one other thing. Check out this fantastic cover of A Ritual Mask. I have rarely, maybe never, heard a cover of a Hammill tune that didn’t make me wince but I think this one is on par, even better in some moments, than the original. In a reply to my comment the performer mentions another snippet from Loops and Reels is inserted into the song and challenged the guess. Unfortunately my copy of that album is on cassette (as originally released by PH) and I don’t have a cassette player to review. It’s been years since I listened to it. Pretty sure the insert is the orchestral section around 3:30 or so but can’t peg the song it’s from. And only a couple of songs from L&R are on You Tube and it’s not from any of them. Maybe you or someone else here can unravel the mystery. But at minimum check out the tune. He also has a cover of Birthday Special. Nicely done though not as transcendent as A Ritual Mask. See link below. kzitem.info/news/bejne/25h43GWkopujeI4
@douglasanderson8636
2 жыл бұрын
I have a hangover after seeing Van der Graaf last night in Edinburgh. That alchohol and piss bit gave me a fright every time. Susiiiie I guess you,re on your way to be a star...
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Sorry, I suppose the joke does wear thin a bit. Hope it was a great show!
@lemming9984
2 жыл бұрын
@Maxine McKenzie I don't have a hangover either, and I saw VdGG in Bath 3 weeks ago!!
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622
6 ай бұрын
- The silent corner and the empty stage - In Camera - Nadir's big chance - Over - The Future now - Fools mate - PH7 - Chameleon in the Shadow of the night - A black box
@paulogonzalez1632
2 жыл бұрын
My preferences are: 1º) FOOL'S MATE (early VDGG) 2º) CHAMALEON (PH + VDGG hybrid album) 3º) SILENT CORNER (PH + VDGG. There's a hidden VDGG album inside this PH solo LP) 4º) IN CAMERA (PH + VDGG hybrid album) 5º) THE FUTURE NOW (the 1st real PH solo without the band. Love it) 6º) OVER (PH + VDG hybrid) 7º) PH7 8º) A BLACK BOX 9º) NADIR'S BIG CHANCE But it is really difficult. All albums contain amazing songs.
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the '70s is certainly the decade with the least quality gap between the top and bottom of the list.
@PalaeoClive237
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I'd agree early PH solo albums have a strong VdGG feel in parts. A Louse is Not a Home and In the Black Room were actually written for VdGG to perform - and they'd fit well on H to He/Godbluff and the like.
@MrEndoni
Жыл бұрын
Careering and porton down from PH7 are wonderful. They sound electronic,noisy, modern now too.
@AlbertoVO5
6 ай бұрын
The bass notes that open Porton Down can’t be heard enough or played loud enough.
@thenavajoknow
Жыл бұрын
The late seventies to early eighties are my pH sweet spot. To me it's post-punk singer-songwriting. Love ph7, Future Now, Black Box, Sitting Targets to bits and feel the D.I.Y. sound is more of a virtue than a deficiency. Energy Vampires is one of my favorite songs ever (as are Fogwalking, Stranger Still, Old School Tie, Mr X. /Faculty X). I could never quite pick up on Nadir and Over. In Camera, though, is gold.
@AlbertoVO5
6 ай бұрын
I always harbored the thought that Hammill saw Over and pH7 as inter-related. In addition to feeling very much of the same studio moment the b&w checkered LP spines seemed to be a tip.
@kidflersh7807
2 жыл бұрын
what is the audio from 2:12 at from lol
@comradeabby3141
2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever figure it out? I think its from "like veronica" but I cant find the same version used here
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
It's on the album "Veracious"
@narasimha7187
2 жыл бұрын
I find Over to be all too harrowing a look at failed love, move over Adele! It's funny not to mention the absolute madness that is Gog Magog, there is nothing else remotely like it on any other prog album.Makes Throbbing Gristle look tame. Thanks for this, been listening to all these albums for a couple of decades thanks to Julian Cope mentioning Nadir's Big Chance in his guide to Krautrock music. As that was the first time I heard Hammill it has a special place for me. So the solo albums came first for me, then the mighty VDGG.
@marchersant5758
2 жыл бұрын
here's my opinion : 1. Silent corner . 2. Chameleon. 3. In camera 4. Over 5. Black box 6. Nadir 7. PH7 8. Future now 9. Fool'mate I must say i LOVE all this albums, even Fool !!!!
@zelly8163
4 ай бұрын
"Silent Corner" is a extremely great album - Hammill's best and as good as some of the VDGG albums-IMHO
@michaosanna
2 жыл бұрын
I know I'm a bit late here. I can't decide (and never will) if chameleon, silent corner or camera are my number one, so I need to put all three of them on one! On second are over, ph7 or black box - i think i still can't decide, so all three on number two! The third place is reserved for - as u will imagine - nadir, future and fools, a very good third place in my personal ranking.
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the 70s stuff is all so wonderful! Those groupings make a lot of sense to me.
@massimomarchesin8708
2 жыл бұрын
È davvero difficile fare una classifica dei migliori albums di PETER HAMMILL è chiaro che gli anni 70 sono il suo apice creativo sia con la sua band i VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR sia da solista , ok proviamo 1 CHAMALEON IN THE SHADOW... 2 IN CAMERA , 3 FOOL' S MATE, 4 THE SILENT CORNER.... 5 NADIR'S BIG CHANCE , 6 IN A BLACK BOX , 7 THE FUTURE NOW , 8 OVER, 9 PH7 . Dico solo che sono TUTTI dei GRANDI albums e che il valore medio è oltre L' 8 per me !!!!!! Grandissimo PETER HAMMILL !!!!!
@oolongoolong789
2 жыл бұрын
An intriguing list and one that is strikingly different to my own choices. FWIW, mine would be 1. The Future Now; 2. Over; 3. PH7: 4. Side 2 of In Camera...The other albums I don't rate much. But, the exceptional A Black Box was released in 1980 so should be in your next video, not this one!
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I played fast and loose in a couple of places with boundaries where I thought changes in style didn't quite match up with decades, in this video and also with putting Consequences in the 2000s.
@oolongoolong789
Жыл бұрын
@@electricbrainelectricshado9490 When I said "The other albums I don't rate much", what I meant is I do rate them (i.e. they're not poor) but not as much as the 4 choices I listed. Glad I cleared that up!
@claudevaillancourt3574
2 жыл бұрын
In Camera is the best album, but if you remove Magog which is very boring you end up with only 38 minutes of real music. So because of that I put Silent Corner at #1. But these two albums could have been a super double album, a total masterpiece. 1-Silent Corner 2-In Camera 3-Chameleon 4-Black Box (because Fligth is a masterpiece song) 5-Nadir 6-Over 7-Fool's Mate 8-Future Now 9-PH7
@enzogalli5506
2 жыл бұрын
1 Silent corner 2 Chameleon 3 In Camera
@alanwindsor6383
4 күн бұрын
Actually, his recent work is just as vital.
@Prog_drummer35
2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Fantastic 👍
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@seanpopple5984
2 жыл бұрын
Great album reviews. I only recently got into Peter Hammill via a band called The Amorphous Androgynous (also known as The Future Sound of London). Not sure if you've heard that album (if so sorry). Would like to hear your thoughts on that LP. The album is called We Persuade Ourselves we are Immortal. Cheers
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
I talk about that album in the 2020s video. I'll have to listen to some more FSOL/AA; I don't know much about them. Thanks for watching!
@ildefonspratalsina1641
Жыл бұрын
Over
@antonhaq3503
2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this!
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for watching!
@massimomarchesin8708
2 жыл бұрын
Quando la QUALITÀ degli albums è veramente MOLTO alta èd è il caso degli LP's di PETER HAMMILL solista del periodo più AUREO suo cioè i 70 è davvero difficile quasi direi impossibile stilarne una classifica , sono davvero TUTTI affascinanti dischi da FOOL'S MATE a A BLACK BOX . Peter Hammill è un grandissimo artista ed è uno dei pochi se non pochissimi che hanno saputo esprimere meglio il connubio MUSICA & POESIA !!!!!!!
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
Assolutamente! Questo è un lavoro così eccezionale che la classifica è quasi fuori luogo.
@massimomarchesin8708
2 жыл бұрын
E se devo essere corretto un altro titolo NON l'ho detto bene CHAMELEON IN THE SHADOW OF THE NIGHT e NON CHAMALEON ..... Me ne scuso anche di questo !!!!!
@massimomarchesin8708
2 жыл бұрын
Ho messo anche in A BLACK BOX perché benché sia uscito nel 1980 ma parecchie delle tracce dell' album sono del 79 e quindi rientra nei seventies di diritto !!!!!
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
Sì, mi è sempre sembrato più adatto ai suoi album degli anni '70, quindi ho tradito. Forse un po' sciatto.
@massimomarchesin8708
2 жыл бұрын
Ops il titolo esatto è A BLACK BOX me ne scuso non ricordavo bene !!!!
@nachingou
2 жыл бұрын
Love your comments. Please do a video about vdgg records !
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
That would be an interesting challenge! I haven't listened to the later VDGG albums in awhile so I'll have to go back to those.
@soilentmichi
Ай бұрын
Ich bin mit der Musik von Peter Hammill aufgewachsen und verehre ihn bis heute als einen der besten Ausnahme Songwriter und Musiker der Welt...Ebenso sein Tun bei VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR... Seine Musik und seine Songs kennen nichts Vergleichbares....
@marcbergeron8690
2 жыл бұрын
Good but not for depressive people.
@PalaeoClive237
Жыл бұрын
Yes, there's a bleakness to early 70s Hammill & VdGG. Chameleon is quite baroque sounding and the next two sterile but ingenious. Saying that, Fool's Mate is quite upbeat. Great musically, though.
@hammilliet
2 жыл бұрын
sooo difficult
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Yeah I feel like with this decade they're all so good that a ranking is a little irrelevant but I guess I shouldn't say that about my own video
@markrae1317
2 жыл бұрын
Yawn...
@electricbrainelectricshado9490
2 жыл бұрын
I know right?
@michaelhudson2912
2 жыл бұрын
1. Chameleon 2. Silent Corner 3. Over 4. The Future Now 5. In Camera 6. A Black Box 7. pH7 8. Nadir's 9. Fool's
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