This was filmed 9 years ago, today almost a decade later: -The iPhone is a little bigger -Snapchat has face filters -Energy is extremely expensive -Air travel is a total nightmare -We have made no progress on cancer or aging -No new groundbreaking scientific discoveries that capture public imagination -More inflation and government debt -No new large infrastructure projects -Healthcare is more expensive -School is more expensive -Houses are mostly painted white now, otherwise the same -We've not made it any further into space -Container ships are even slower -We have 5g, not 4g -Nuclear Plants are still closing down The only companies attempting to do anything that could be called real innovation are companies that Peter himself has invested in. We've been "5 years away" from a cure for cancer for my entire lifetime, and I'm losing hope I'll ever see the day where it is a reality. Very interesting to see how similar life is today to when it was when this was filmed. Looks like Peter was right.
@vimalcurio
Жыл бұрын
They found a God particles and Tesla is getting good at driving and now you have dynamic island on your iPhone lol
@neslzkusfep
Жыл бұрын
And much of the Twitter workforce has been dismissed.
@rideroftheweek
9 ай бұрын
You’re forgetting we’ve made great strides in e-cigarettes
@PlaneToTheBrainES
6 жыл бұрын
Peter deserves a big, big applause at many points of his speech. Brilliant.
@zes3813
4 жыл бұрын
wrg,idts
@zes3813
2 жыл бұрын
wrg
@drewwolin3162
2 жыл бұрын
Often is true for him
@gnagyusa
6 жыл бұрын
They both make good points. Thiel is right about the FDA suffocating innovation. And, not just for drug development. For example, there's a new and amazing artificial spinal disc (M6-L), that developed right in Silicon Valley, by Spinal Kinetics. It has been used very successfully all over the world, for a decade. But, you can't get it in the USA! The US bureoucracy is so difficult and expensive to deal with, that Spinal Kinetics doesn't even want to bother with having it approved here. US patients have to fly to Germany, or Australia to have the device implanted, that *was invented in the US!* The irony! The FDA is literally causing the suffering of millions of people who have back injuries, and their condition doesn't allow them to fly internationally.
@dothex4919
2 жыл бұрын
One thing that didn't age well was "self driving cars are so close" ... it's almost 2022 and still nobody can actually ship a car that drives itself day to day the same routes your average human would take.
@RandyVollrath1
6 жыл бұрын
The moderator had a tough job, and I thought he did a good job of adding value to the conversation, keeping things structured, and letting Marc and Peter talk.
@rokyericksonroks
6 жыл бұрын
Randy Vollrath While an amiable host, Giles is still a stooge for The Economist. This podcast can be enjoyed only by remembering that.
@zes3813
4 жыл бұрын
wrg
@zes3813
2 жыл бұрын
no such thing as tough or job or add or etc
@4tops
6 жыл бұрын
Elon Musk is almost single-handedly proving Thiel's point: many sectors have been underperforming in innovation: Car industry, Rail Industry, Aviation and Aerospace have been slacking. High speed rail: 70s technology, Concorde ahead of its time and not surpassed since, Rocket-engines made in Russia instead of US, EVs where ugly and with poor performance
@alex0711a
6 жыл бұрын
4tops and yet Musk is not an innovator himself. A car is still a car.
@tusharrakheja7741
5 жыл бұрын
@@alex0711a If this comment was any more short-sighted it would be looking back at itself.
@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO
4 жыл бұрын
@@alex0711a - I think he's definitely an innovator, but since PayPal (which was innovation), he has focused more on Big Picture innovations (dreams, goals, to benefit humanity overall).
@mikeyhealthy4376
3 жыл бұрын
that wasn't the argument he was supposed to take on. He was supposed to argue in favor of AI genius lmao
@tomski2671
6 жыл бұрын
Peter Thiel is right, he looks at more "end result" indicators, and more qualitative ones. Moreover energy costs are an incredibly important factor to the growth of the economy, a fact that has been largely ignored by most economists and pundits.
@Bayarsaikhan
2 жыл бұрын
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@Bayarsaikhan
2 жыл бұрын
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@Bayarsaikhan
2 жыл бұрын
Y. Yy
@vimalcurio
Жыл бұрын
Pundit is originally a hindi word that means the person who worship the God. Edit : you can also call them hindu priest.
@deenzmartin6695
2 жыл бұрын
as time goes on, the more correct peter seems. i think it's a huge fallacy to assume that number of science degrees awarded or number ofscience papers published equates to amount of scientific innovation occurring, particularly when academic researchers and scientists are captured by economic and ideological factors.
@DustyBilbo
6 жыл бұрын
Both of these guys are on the boards of Facebook. Those meeting would be an interesting to watch.
@zachariahwade8532
3 жыл бұрын
you probably dont give a shit but if you are stoned like me atm then you can watch pretty much all of the latest series on instaflixxer. Been streaming with my brother for the last days :)
@dakarieaston9442
3 жыл бұрын
@Zachariah Wade yup, been using InstaFlixxer for since november myself :D
@vimalcurio
Жыл бұрын
Ye
@solidgod1093
6 жыл бұрын
Given this discussion, I would totally invest with Thiel, not so much with Andreessen. Peter appears much smarter and more focused on what is most important to me.
@rokyericksonroks
6 жыл бұрын
Solid God Andreessen is sure he can solve all of the problems that are of concern to you, provided of course, that you surrender your political will to the political platform “that is needed” for Marc to succeed.
@jeviosoorishas181
5 жыл бұрын
Ironically, Andreessen is a much better overall investor than Thiel. That said both of them are billionaires, so you can't go wrong either way.
@gauravdwivedi2808
4 жыл бұрын
@@jeviosoorishas181 How so Peter Thiel has almost 1.5x net worth of Anderson.
@dstyle00
3 жыл бұрын
Comparative net worth according to Forbes dated 1/21: Peter Thiel: $6.7 B Marc Andreesen: $1.6 B
@michaelramirez6771
6 жыл бұрын
Peter Gregory won the debate
@javiertrevino5535
6 жыл бұрын
I tend to side with Peter Thiel a lot more... Zero to One is my favorite book, but I do think they both have valid points, software is eating the world as Marc always says so it remains a GREAT space to be in as a businessman or employee, investor. The rest of the technology areas have fell behind for the most part, and we do need to address this via entrepreneurship and governmental changes. I would say for the most part, if you wanna get rich build a successful software product, if you wanna improve the world and possibly fail at it, build something that is not software
@garywood97
7 жыл бұрын
Lol twitter makes it easier to meet people who aren't like you? That's the exact opposite of how it's being used. People use it to create echo chambers.
@constantavogadro7823
6 жыл бұрын
Gordon Freemason But the problem is not in the technology itself. If you want to create an echo chamber - there you go. If you want to meet people of different culture and worldview - no one's stopping you. Of course, for those who choose the latter, it provides huge benefits.
@notbot8830
6 жыл бұрын
Has for me. It's really cool, but Peter's absolutely right, it's only a bridge
@squamish4244
6 жыл бұрын
So the problem is human nature. Human nature is the biggest bottleneck in technological progress. Thiel has never proposed very convincingly what we should do about that.
@DannyReed
5 жыл бұрын
I hear about Trump's tweets all the time and that's definitely not in any echo chamber of mine.
@blessedspear2642
6 жыл бұрын
Peter peter peter need to pay close attention to Peter during his lifetime he knows what's up
@chemicalbiomedengine
6 жыл бұрын
great debate from both side..but marc seems naive in fields hes not familar with (aka academia) and peter theile remains strong in knowledge in every field..i like peter lots
@johnpaulevans
8 ай бұрын
27:37 “[Twitter] will have great job security for the next decade…” lol
@healthymealthy775
6 жыл бұрын
George Friedman has spoken about this extensively. The economy is suffering from a lack of innovation. Nothing revolutionary since the microchip.
Those four things came from microchips, and the rest are moving at an incredibly slow pace or just aren't that great of 'innovations"
@Tenebrousable
6 жыл бұрын
@20:00 Don't forget Paul Krugman, in the year 1998, comparing the future economic impact of the internet to the fax machine. Glorious stupidity.
@nat6106
6 жыл бұрын
I find Thiel's views to be really interesting in general. With a big exception. Towards the end of the debate, he utterly misses the point on innovation happening in other places than the US by saying it's happens mainly in the US or when not in other developed countries either Western developed countries or other usual suspects like Israel. He is missing the point for China. China is a formidable player in technology. It has not a visible, global presence to which we can relate to in the developed world in general because it is primarily focused on its domestic market, so we, Westerners, tend to underrate its significance. Yet its tech industry is doing incredible strong. If we consider Peter proxy measures of capitalization to which I'd add VC funding. Chinese tech giants are elephants. Alibaba and Tencent are around half a trillion USD market cap by half 2018. Looking at VC investments, they were half the level of the US in 2017 (north $40B). Those numbers are incredible high compare to those of the rest of the world plus the trend is clearly upward. In addition, the Chinese are super focused on anything related to AI, in mobility, speech recognition, logistics, or anything serving the government vision of the country. Because another feature of the Chinese tech landscape that we cannot overlook is that it is heavily supported and directed by the communist party governing this country. The latter sees technology has a powerful force for economic growth, technology sovereignty/autonomy and... control of its population. This means the tech sector is benefiting from favorable policies, from large tech companies to small upstarts, but the Chinese population is now at a point where they are tracked and watched by their government in all their online discussions, when walking on the streets (thanks to tons of cameras everywhere with AI-facial recognition technology), the government is on the verge to adopt a scoring system of its citizens based on how good they are behaving, not to mention voice analysis that we can assume the government is working on. So technology ends up being a very mixed blessing to the country. This alliance of tech and government, or rather the caption of power of technology by the government perfectly exemplified by China is a reason we can't be blindly bullish about technology. It unlocks power and make it easier for government to watch then control people. Yet, it would be wrong to attribute this dystopian perspective to technology alone, as Mao's era showed how much wrong a government could do with little technology (or the Stasi in the former East Germany). PS : Andreessen made an interesting point on government interventions in the energy sector in the form of granted monopoly and subsidies as the main causes of slow-down of innovations in Western developed countries.
@nikhilgoyal007
6 жыл бұрын
correction to some of peter's points - 1) wealth of top 400 richest americans is $2.7T. 2016 federal deficit was less than $600B 2) companies of the 90's ( google / amazon ) have a higher market cap than companies post 2000 doesn't imply decelerated innovation. fact, that companies from 2000's are growing at rapid pace means innovation happening even now.
@bwhit7919
Ай бұрын
Twitter employees have “great job security for the next decade” lol Theil couldn’t have been more wrong
@junyin2200
6 жыл бұрын
peter do a good job
@JamesScottGuitar
6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps we're overlooking the simple fact that, collectively, we're doing very little to improve the quality of life of the Planet that provides life for us all? It seems to me that innovation is moving in the form of a funnel....innovation is happening on a more granular level, because our needs have mostly already been met, on the grand scale.
@maori_brotha
6 жыл бұрын
Neither of them addressed this...but surely it is one of the major issues of our time.
@f1l4nn1m
6 жыл бұрын
I think you hit the point.
@squamish4244
6 жыл бұрын
I also think they're both off target. We can meet all our basic needs, and yet we are still pretty unhappy. We need innovation in the study of the mind more than anything, as we are still stuck with preindustrial technologies like meditation (seriously!) for it, and that is not nearly enough.
@ebrelus7687
6 жыл бұрын
The planet had no mercy for human kinds being few time on edge of extinction same as all species before human. Why would humans care?
@kulak8548
6 жыл бұрын
JamesScottGuitar spoken like someone born into a western democracy.
@RJYounglingTricking
6 жыл бұрын
every time you watch this you get something new out of it.. so much condensed knowledge here
@RichardHeart
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah so Peter was right, and Marc was wrong. Videoconferencing still sucks, transportation still sucks. Computers aren't getting much faster, just more cores. (Amdahls law states why that sucks.)
@Kaizenhuman
6 жыл бұрын
what a surprise to see your comment here, fellow Bitcoiner
@squamish4244
6 жыл бұрын
Five years ago, when this conference took place, the recent breakthroughs in AI were thought by many to be decades away. AI is becoming far more efficient and far less dependent on brute computing power. Thiel makes many good points, but he's not right about everything. He didn't see this coming, as most people didn't.
@Tenebrousable
6 жыл бұрын
Eh, Peter is right about that it is stagnate. But Marc is right about that there is potential. And government spends all the gains, and regulation slows more gains.
@benyaminewanganyahu
6 жыл бұрын
I agree with all the above comments. However, I think that although Peter was/is probably right, innovation does not evolve linearly and innovation happening only in the digital domain is actually *not* because of government regulation (although that has taken the oxygen away), it is because it is the next useful/productive industry for humanity and focusing on anything else IMO would be dumb. E.g. imagine if we had developed flying cars but did not develop the internet???? And the reason for the non-linearity is because we eventually reach bottle necks in innovation - we had the agricultural revolution and then it was thousands of years until the industrial revolution. E.g. Peter wants to measure human lifespan as a metric which is laughable since there are fundamental biological reason why it becomes extremely hard to increase life-span beyond the 70-100 year range - we will innovate out of this range but progress will not be so smooth a transition as Peter seems to think.
@squamish4244
6 жыл бұрын
Thiel wants to use lifespan as both a metric and as an indicator of the speed of innovation. It is obvious that in a hundred years we will be a vastly more technologically advanced society than we are now, barring a global warming or nuclear war disaster etc. But Thiel wants to *live* to see lots of innovation happening, specifically in longevity, and at 50 years of age he knows that in the next 30 or 40 years it better be very fast or he won't. I'm almost 40 so I can respect Thiel's psychological dilemma but I can also see how it has maybe affected his thinking. Ray Kurzweil is the uber-example of existential anguish coupled with techno-libertarianism, as he is 20 years older than Thiel and his timeline for technological progress is way more demanding and IMO actually insane. And yes, I think we will also innovate out of the 70-100 year range but it will not be a smooth process. It is unfortunate that Thiel used perhaps the HARDEST metric to innovate out of (biological complexity and the human lifespan) as a defining one - not a hundred other metrics that would weaken his argument.
@Brightlinkx
6 жыл бұрын
It's always great to listen to the brightest brains talk to each other.
@sasha6454
6 жыл бұрын
Progress in any field can be graphed logarithmically. So deceleration in progress is inevitable.
@squamish4244
6 жыл бұрын
They're both right. It's ludicrous to think there isn't massive innovation now that two billion people are carrying 1990s supercomputers in their pockets. (And those are far more in number and far more advanced than when this debate was held.) And yet, government regulations also bog down a lot of innovation. So: invest in companies as though innovation is happening rapidly, and work with government as if it has stagnated.
@jonseltzer321
3 жыл бұрын
The question isn't whether we are or aren't progressing - the question is: if we're not progressing, why?
@felixyates
6 жыл бұрын
Thought they both made good points, and enjoyed the friendly debate
@vairagya108
6 жыл бұрын
I love you Peter Thiel. Never heard a guy talk so straight and make so much sense.
@Aodhan45
6 жыл бұрын
talk "Straight" you say ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@Ambrose_Heria
6 жыл бұрын
vairagya108 I bet he is a cyborg
@kouohhashi
6 жыл бұрын
Why does wages have to keep increasing? If we can enjoy better life with same amount of wages, what's the problem? I think our standard have improved with recent technologies.
@danavram8437
6 жыл бұрын
You may want to look up this thing called inflation.
@endeuinable
2 жыл бұрын
Clash of titans. Very interesting and enjoyable discussion, with a moderator that did a fairly good job.
@likebutton11
Жыл бұрын
man you may not find three softer set of hands on one stage
@felixguerrero6062
2 жыл бұрын
Andreessen has moved closer to Thiel's position in the last few years.
@vivw3654
2 жыл бұрын
In his wildest dreams...Thiel is on a league of his own. In terms of originality only Musk comes close
@felixguerrero6062
2 жыл бұрын
@@vivw3654 Thiel is unique. I agree.
@drewwolin3162
2 жыл бұрын
@@vivw3654 I think you misunderstood. The original comment was that Andersen developed views that are similar to what Theil’s already were.
@matts3414
7 ай бұрын
Just saw a podcast with him and this is what I noticed too
@dosumuopeyemi6999
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this
@redhookproj
6 жыл бұрын
I am just surprised that no one mentions corporate monopolies as a barrier to innovation
@drewwolin3162
2 жыл бұрын
Read Zero to One. Corporate Monopolies don’t stifle innovation, according to the guy on the right ;) And he’s pretty smart
@yourliestopshere
6 жыл бұрын
Simply cannot call Hegel a debate.
@Palantir_Daily
3 жыл бұрын
I hope Marc was joking about a flying car (VTOL) just to tease Thiel.
@maxgetuba7577
3 ай бұрын
Marc andreesen seemed to be more right on most points in this but great debate.
@meritorioustechnate9455
2 ай бұрын
Marc is an unwritten philosopher imo. A true gnostic. I respect him, but oppose his libertarian views.
@wouldbegood
6 жыл бұрын
The reason people are scared of technology is because our system of goverence is so flawed we are worried about getting locked into it by technology which has the ability to lower entropy even more than money and 'democracy' has managed to.
@energ8t
6 жыл бұрын
What’s better than autonomous vehicles and fancy traffic apps? How about a city designed around human foot traffic instead of autos? Making cities fundamentally structured and focused on the automobile creates a society dependent on those autos. How about not having to drive everywhere all the time all day long. So, it’s not just about better tech to make autos and traffic so “advanced”. It’s about getting rid of unnecessary tasks and time wasters. Anyone who’s spent time in a European town that pre-dates automobiles can see the benefits of a human-centric transportation at least in every other neighborhood.
@squamish4244
6 жыл бұрын
Often, Thiel takes aim at the wrong indicators of progress. He's obsessed with space travel, for instance. I don't give a shit about that, and how exactly does it benefit 99.99% of humanity?
@smirza860
6 жыл бұрын
Cost of developing any new product is high . And lot of wastage in free market.
@rokyericksonroks
6 жыл бұрын
s mirza Waste? That’s what the VC crowd calls burn rate, no?
@aamir6666
6 жыл бұрын
Peter is very skeptical. Marc has great rebuttals.
@Ayo22210
6 жыл бұрын
55:25 totally down with charter cities idea. I think Whidbey Island by Seattle is a perfect candidate to compete with the "Four Asian Tigers"
@sohilgupta2009
6 жыл бұрын
Clash of the Pessimist versus the Optimist. The exponentialist versus the incrementalist. Invention of Aeroplanes versus 140 characters. Invention of Cars versus removing Headphone Jack from iPhone.
@alanpinnt
2 жыл бұрын
Still agree with Peter on this. We haven't had the innovation like we did in the past. We've had incremental change and deceleration of innovation but not zero to one change as he would say.
@robertmontgomery2047
6 жыл бұрын
No Q & A ??
@curbesidenation
6 жыл бұрын
Peter Thiel is brilliant!
@DanHowardMtl
6 жыл бұрын
Where's my jetpack!
@notbot8830
6 жыл бұрын
"It's not an efficient way" -monopolist 2017
@123axel123
6 жыл бұрын
The moderator gets really exciting when he can add his personal experiences of sitting in a traffic jam. The Economist is more and more looking like a JOKE
@amidnightstroll376
4 жыл бұрын
This was way too short
@RiCsoundbox
6 жыл бұрын
Most of the advances are on the easy stuff and have more to do with social interests and personal pleasure. And most of it is all superficial. Transport is still transport and computers are still computers. There's no interest in investing in the tough stuff if you have so many hurdles to take and costs that keep rising vs the real gain you might get.
@epicxpvperx1
Жыл бұрын
Marc literally created the internet, by founding Mosaic --- no one has done more to help humans communicate.
@evyatarmor2
6 жыл бұрын
Great!
@mithilmallya2829
2 жыл бұрын
ngl, Peter won the debate before even saying a word
@ramdas363
2 жыл бұрын
44:54 "Government bubble", haha. Perfect Peter succinctness.
@kevando_gg
2 жыл бұрын
there's nothing quite like a peter thiel joke.
@tripjj8662
6 жыл бұрын
was Marc Andreessen correcting homework or something
@EFCasual
6 жыл бұрын
tripJJ Some people think better by writing.
@Shoutinthewind
2 жыл бұрын
Looking back at this from the perspective of 2022 Marks arguments fall flat…particularly about social media…he got one thing right though it certainly is “a big deal”
@mr0market
6 жыл бұрын
Telephone was invented by Alexander Graham Bell, not Edison (Marc saying so)
@newspeed8000
6 жыл бұрын
nope, he said how Edison was thinking the application could be!
@dejabu24
6 жыл бұрын
I thought it was Antonio Meucci invented the telephone not Bell
@filobrosgolf
6 жыл бұрын
My analogy of why we are not innovating would be the concept of, concept cars at automobile show. It's shocking to me the excuse for lack of innovation is always cost. A dead cowhide is a dead cowhide. I'd work for 3 years for free for Peter.
@SiddharthSrivastav2992
6 жыл бұрын
To some extent, the mediator did a poor job. He did not correct Marc who was solely talking about growth which isn't the opposite of deceleration (Peter's point). Of course, we have experienced growth but not at an increasing pace. Also, he didn't correct Peter who was citing lack of innovation whereas it should be lack of invention. Of course, we have had innovations - incremental improvements, but maybe they aren't enough.
@enhex
4 жыл бұрын
the internet is instant global public messaging for free. twitter just makes it easier to do.
@SN-nh9sz
3 жыл бұрын
peter Thiel is smart asf
@BLUEGENE13
9 ай бұрын
the moderator needs to shut up and let them talk, stop giving us your clever comments
@thatPSNguy99
5 жыл бұрын
HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT'S MEGAMIND GUYS
6 жыл бұрын
Flying cars are unlikely !? Really ? And what about autonomous flying taxis ?
@robin100012001
5 жыл бұрын
Is that Humpty or Dumpty?
@gcgrabodan
6 жыл бұрын
For once, a non-boring introduction
@htetnaingoo5087
Жыл бұрын
How to meausre these things.Accelerating the scale up is the most important. Bio Tech. Clean Tech. If we talk about the bio tech, you have to learn about the goverment and regulation because if govermen don't have such a qualification, you might not get FDA so that how you can trust user. It might be pending and stuck in the middle. That is one of my concerns.
@morrishbs
4 жыл бұрын
As they say truth stands at the test of time. Peter talking about MSFT being done and the iPhone near end had aged poorly. He's a type of thinker whose ideas sound good because they are presented well but are not actually good. Marc on the other hand seems to be the opposite. It's clear Marc is an engineer who understands the nuance of building technology and Theil a lawyer who good and creating a certain perception based on his own views.
@aeneasseasteader4459
6 жыл бұрын
When did this interview actually happen?
@runes6843
6 жыл бұрын
The year displayed is 2013. I'd like to see an update from Thiel, if he has somewhat changed his views.
@vimalcurio
Жыл бұрын
Same question
@vimalcurio
Жыл бұрын
@@runes6843 are you 100% sure?
@vimalcurio
Жыл бұрын
@@runes6843 seems like he hasn't
@wildreams
6 жыл бұрын
Peter is not an optimist, he is a cynical idealist. lol
@lipidsled
4 жыл бұрын
32:23
@isohumulone
4 жыл бұрын
Twitter should never have existed. We didnt need a monolithic bias engine as content host. We had simple peer-to-peer schemes like RSS. It is sad that the aggregators ended up hosting and policing the content.
@williamwilliams2729
4 жыл бұрын
@marc at 47:11 you used language like "developing world" implying that we are in fact "developed" how the hell is that an arguement for the existence of technological optimism. Asking for a friend?
@robertmontgomery2047
6 жыл бұрын
Peter hot out of the start
@ajm01010
Жыл бұрын
The host spoke for far too long at the start! Thiel and Andreessen were great
@harrison6082
Жыл бұрын
8:34
@awh4272
2 жыл бұрын
10:40
@brandoYT
6 жыл бұрын
Peter only cares about money. Elon wanted to revolutionize banking starting with PayPal. Peter couldn't wait and while Musk on Honeymoon in Australia. Fired Musk and sold to E-bay. Elon doesn't hold a grudge and the money he got allowed him to start SpaceX and invest in Tesla (later he became CEO if /Tesla. Peter typifies a big part of the problem. I think this talk is at least 5 years old. wish bstore would be honest and tell us the original date.
@yonilevitan
Жыл бұрын
Go to 17:41 and you'll see this took place in 2013 (there is a sign for the event that includes the year). Cheers
@hgjghyhjf8990
6 жыл бұрын
wtf its 2013
@voiceofhermit2823
4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft slowind down? Really?
@JorgeHernandez-dd1so
2 жыл бұрын
Now that I know what accelerationism is I understand where there are coming from and it’s dangerous because they want to accelerate towards the unknown which is chaos. Technology is their god.
@likebutton11
Жыл бұрын
basically you get on these guys bad side your online experience is fucking doomed soft hands software soft hands
@ZachFootballTV
6 жыл бұрын
One guy's bald head too flat. The other, too pointy
@rokyericksonroks
6 жыл бұрын
Zachary Nickerson LMAO! The third guy’s head is the only one with any brains in it.
@sp8cetime
4 жыл бұрын
INTP vs INTJ lol
@Starlightlive
2 жыл бұрын
Marc is thinking , this peter thiel guy is on another level, hes extremely well read and has a memory to recall data like no one else!!
@garys.1415
2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious hearing someone talk to the founder of Palantir about innovation.
@qwerty6574
6 ай бұрын
27:28 Twitter and job security😂 ppl
@mikeyhealthy4376
3 жыл бұрын
look at all these Elon Musk fan boys in the comments
@iphoneemail9404
6 жыл бұрын
Peter is right on Japan - even Japanese startups are making the “Japanese version of X”
@rokyericksonroks
6 жыл бұрын
iPhone Email That’s why innovation is so difficult and simply producing more engineers is not going to solve anything.
@wesleythomas5985
6 жыл бұрын
Innovation in philosophy/ metaphysics: dead. Innovation in science/mathematics: bursting like a bubble. Innovation in Economics/financing: trying not to die. Innovation in social fabric/politics: crawling out of a swamp.
@DangerDan922
6 жыл бұрын
Bitcoin mining is going to incentivize advancements energy production.
@ProfessorDopefiend
11 ай бұрын
Creeps
@TheMraptor
6 жыл бұрын
old
@vladpaul01
3 жыл бұрын
Peter demolished Marc. I believe Peter’s arguments focus more on the raw technical advancements, rather than Marc , who’s entire philosophy can be reduced to him considering that small incremental ways of repurposing tech or adding a small twist like a chat... actually are technological advancements.
@maverikmiller6746
6 жыл бұрын
Wow that Marc guy is full of **** and able to flabberghast at your face real time. 41:46 He can not distinguish the advancement of nuclear power or reactor design from having more nuclear reactors. "Look guys a I have a million World War 2 era tanks in my army. My tank technology is so advanced ! "
@Lululemon2023
6 жыл бұрын
Marc can go into the specifics to substantiate his arguments while the other guy just keeps to the general and theocratical side, perhaps this is the reason why one takes notes and the other doesn’t. Of course the mass audience like the easy diet, as usual.
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