Propagandists complain about sample size of this Pew survey. But for the survey which said India has become an autocracy the sample was 10 eminent intellectuals. Yes that was it!
@anonymouslyopinionated656
3 жыл бұрын
if you point fingers at the sample size of this survey (Whether you are India-hating left winger or a Muslim-hating right winger), you then have to point fingers at every single predictive, demographic, social science and election survey about national opinions.
@rbk9915
3 жыл бұрын
@@anonymouslyopinionated656 From what I have seen the "right wing" didn't have a problem with the sampling size of the survey. Don't talk some bullsh*t in the name of monkey balancing.
that point on south Indians being more traditional and nationalist is actually right. I also felt the same. The thing that makes south angry is that they dont get covered into national media. And that is genuine.
@rohitrane1900
3 жыл бұрын
Abhinav sir got one thing right on South India. South India is more traditional. Avg South Indian may not be introduced to/aware of the Hindu right thought. But the devotion to their own local temples/ festivals / traditions( astrology, auspiciousness, etc. ) is very much there in south. Its also that South Indian culture is more understated, subtle and less vociferous by nature that makes their beliefs and practises less outward in exposition.
@porchelviramr4404
3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@NatrajChaturvedi
3 жыл бұрын
One sees it in their movies, music, literature too very clearly. These values in fact get more diluted more northward one goes.
@MrRahul6464
3 жыл бұрын
Kerala is 90% beef eating state. In Tamil Nadu beef is consumed by atleast 10% Hindus. & half of dhumeel Tamil population thinks Hindu term is an Aryan invader construct. Conservatively 20% of Telugus are just Hindus on paper. Actually they are crypto Christians. The only Hindu state remaining in South is Karnataka.
@k.999
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrRahul6464 what about Andhra Pradesh sir?
@siddarth3955
Жыл бұрын
@@MrRahul6464 lol you gonna base who is a Hindu and who isn't based on their eating habit? All tamils who consume beef and call hindu a foreign are not hindus, they are Periyarite atheists. Kerala is obviously communist state. An average Tamil hindu I have personally seen is more into bhakti and following hindu practices than north Indian hindutvadis' who keep complaining about tamils being crypto Christians. The problem with TN is hindi ain't their language and so the local government creates propaganda and feeds it to hindus that modi or north Indians are actually anti Tamil culture. It doesn't help with the fact that some low iq north Indians still keep pushing for hindi as national language. The problem with Tamil hindu vs north Hindu is tamil hindus are not politically aligned or strong so they simply stay silent.
@smoky3302
3 жыл бұрын
About south indians this is my experience too they are relegious and far more traditionalist too I mean most of my south indian friends apply tilak on their forehead and they do certain upvas that I have never heard of . A tamil boy came to live in my colony and the first thing he asked were us hanuman temple too which iam amazed as I always think tamil worship Shiva aur Murugan So I do agree with abhinav atleast this is my experience.
@jyotivyas9286
3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻🕉️🔥
@smoky3302
3 жыл бұрын
@@Somedrvs but sis here the youth became atheist with out migrating and some became akhand papi like me. 😁😁
@abhilash9918
3 жыл бұрын
@@smoky3302 you can be atheist but you shouldn't be leftist strain of atheists who sht on Hinduism. I am not atheist myself but the last time I visited a temple was probably 3, 4 yrs ago. Hinduism is flexible like that lol. But those leftist atheists, man I don't know what they're reading? But they're so brainwashed nd always use 'brahmins' or 'brahminism' to attack Hinduism. That alone proves these fools are following a well thought strategy that knows not to agitate others while use a concentrated disguised approach to target Hinduism.
@MrRahul6464
3 жыл бұрын
@@Somedrvs Kerala is 90% beef eating state. In Tamil Nadu beef is consumed by atleast 10% Hindus. & half of dhumeel Tamil population thinks Hindu term is an Aryan invader construct. Conservatively 20% of Telugus are just Hindus on paper. Actually they are crypto Christians. The only Hindu state remaining in South is Karnataka.
@meetadi4u
3 жыл бұрын
75% Muslims wanting sharia to 85% of Muslims love Indian culture is a political science students nightmare . How two tangent data elements can be correlated. However one conclusion can be derived is that it is essential for Hindu/ Hindu culture to be a majority in India for better social cohesion and a reduction of tension among communities.
@EILF7842
2 жыл бұрын
tbh indian muslims have little to no idea about what Sharia actually is
@uzochiokeke4328
2 жыл бұрын
indian muslims wanting sharia state is the same as hindus wanting hindu rashtra. Neither of them understand what that means and how its going to work they just say they want it to prove their loyalty to their faith and culture.
@randmht9976
3 жыл бұрын
Razib Khan is a great guest. Will like to see him regularly if possible . 🖤
@milanbarot3248
3 жыл бұрын
Im wondering how much sample size is required to conduct, press freedom, happiness index, and all these reports?
@appumini
3 жыл бұрын
No sample, just agenda driven prejudiced and perceptional rhetoric👈🏼 are needed for such reports
@AdroitRoger
3 жыл бұрын
9:10 Karma is not only in next birth/life, its a general concept that if you do good, good things happen to you.. most people in India belive in that concept..Though they may not believe in reincarnation..
@roman5782
3 жыл бұрын
Bad luck yesterday, btw!
@NatrajChaturvedi
3 жыл бұрын
And this is the way in which Indian Muslims believe in it. Jaisi Karni waisi bharni.
@संदिपमांडे-य1य
3 жыл бұрын
What you are saying is " what goes around comes around " which is a Christian concept... Study what is Karma according to shashtras.... Don't believe in anything which is popular trend
@abhayagarwal2589
3 жыл бұрын
My experience has been that South Indian Hindus assert themselves more through their religiosity and tradition and North Indian Hindus assert themselves more politically. I think the main reason is Islamic invasions which eventually led to partition, massive killings and population exchange. This made north Indians politically more conscious and religiously, spiritually, culturally deracinated as their major cultural heritage, temples were destroyed. Also, they developed a certain level of inferiority complex due to subjugation for a longer period of time. This did not really happen in Southern India.
@punyashloka4946
3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is true 👍
@vinjed
3 жыл бұрын
Sound analysis. Even under the British, the Summer capital was Srinagar and Winter capital was Delhi. They also largely governed the hot 🥵 southern India thru intermediaries or princes. Thank the sun 🌞 However one rot did take root: Communism. Now merged with the west led left ideology. The real menace.
@Suryavanna
8 ай бұрын
I'm an Indo- Caribbean and was raised Hindu (Sanatan Dharma) and was always so surprised how Hindus in the subcontinent are so diverse, accepting towards other ways of Hindu Dharma's but at the same time so agressive with caste discrimination. Here in the Caribbean caste discrimination is not present at all and I think it is more in line with old Vedic society. I can't see how discrimination based on heritage and karma is resulting in Moksha. It is actually not logical within the rules of Dharma. I think it's a maladaptive 'trafition' that is only in the interest of the smallest elite.
@kokoinmars
3 жыл бұрын
Evil eye is "Buri nazar waale tera muh kaala" type deal.
@pushpitaprasad7641
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this wonderful and thought provoking discussion. Really great to have a data driven discussion. The discussion around tolerance vs segregation is fascinating but not surprising. Indians have always been divided into umpteen groups all slightly disdainful of others and convinced of the superiority of their own ways. The beauty of India is that all these groups have been mostly content to live a self-contained existence side by side by others. Far better than other countries that have spent endless centuries trying to reshape different groups into one approved template and the endless civil wars and genocides that have followed as a result..The Indian way of mutual disdain is far more peaceful than the alternatives.
@satympal6935
3 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure listening to Razib
@mos5139
3 жыл бұрын
Two great gurus spreading knowledge
@liladevi3169
3 жыл бұрын
Karma is solemnly Vedic hindu concept. Later many philosophy took this concept like buddhist , Greeks, etc
@MostWantedYouTuber
3 жыл бұрын
But its effect is universal. Like Yoga, it can be said it applies to every religion. Different people can interpret it differently like - 'जैसी करनी वैसी भरनी' or 'Your life is your own making.'
@VSM101
3 жыл бұрын
True
@ramsingh6168
3 жыл бұрын
I humbly request you dear scientist sir please change your microphone because we can not hear you clearly 🙏
@jaiprem7413
3 жыл бұрын
“The Laws of Karma” is the “Law of Cause & Effect”…. It a Universal Law….In the Bible it says “What you sow, is what you reap”…. “What you do is what you get”…. “What goes around comes around.” Science says “To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.”And you don’t only get the results in your next lifetime, most often there are instant karma….you experience the results or consequences immediately and in this lifetime.
@shankyxyz
3 жыл бұрын
I am happy to note Shiva is the most popular god. To be fair Shiva is probably the coolest god across all religions combined. He is pot smoking baba at the end of the day.
@anonymouslyopinionated656
3 жыл бұрын
I fell like if you were to add up the various vishnu avatars, then they would total more, but as an individual form, Shiva probably does have the widest appeal
@ritesharora6032
3 жыл бұрын
so he is only pot smoking baba ? how about yoga tantra and meditation techniques that shiva gave ?
@denk3236
3 жыл бұрын
'pot smoking'. No. This is his representation made by pot smokers. He is not pot smoking anywhere in scriptures
@RAIRADIO
3 жыл бұрын
@@denk3236 But ascetics up in Himalayas do, it keeps them warm and in trance. So its life and literature reflecting each other, which is supposed to evolve and change. E.g. Bengali version of Shiva is a pot belied guy. He has a round tummy, which is congruent to how Bengal thinks about cuisine 24/7. Hinduism doesnt run Hindus. Hindus run Hinduism.
@raghunandan9290
3 жыл бұрын
He just meant for fun . Not offensive
@luvsuneja
3 жыл бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised that 85 % Muslims perceive Indian culture as superior.
@rahajengwedha
Жыл бұрын
I met many Indian Muslims & surprised that, they are very Nationalist, more than Hindus
@sachindev0072002
3 жыл бұрын
Razib is a wonderful analyst!!!
@4z4d
3 жыл бұрын
Karma is your deed. Fala what u get in return.. Some fala in this life. Whatever left is Prarabdha that decides your next life.
@nikhilajith8880
3 жыл бұрын
South Indians are more attached to their folk traditions than abstract intellectual religious concepts. They are very concerned about the separation of religion and state, and are very uncomfortable whenever the two are conflated.
@TomTom-rh5gk
11 ай бұрын
A great web site about India.
@Sameer-er3wz
6 ай бұрын
9:46 Karma doesn't necessarily mean reaping the results in the next life but also in the remainder of this life. Karma basically means that there will be consequences for the performer of the actions directly or indirectly.
@anonymouslyopinionated656
3 жыл бұрын
Abhinav, I am going to email you on something relating to caste which i feel would add a lot of value if it is articulated and explained by someone with a social science academic training.
@Chadpritai
Жыл бұрын
Jay bhim abhinav and Rajib sir 💙✨
@anshulthakur6215
3 жыл бұрын
Shiva is also my best friend :)
@suyashawasthi1
3 жыл бұрын
Razib should invest in a better mic.
@msrevanth3523
3 жыл бұрын
Nice insights on the complex issues
@smilinggeek6841
3 жыл бұрын
Had the same sample provided a different verdict, it would have created a different sensational news both in and out of India
@p_gawde2623
3 жыл бұрын
Razib guy is trying so hard to keep his woke islamism under check and I appreciate it.
@shreepanicker
3 жыл бұрын
My reading of his responses too😀 Just goes to show.....no matter where they live, the faux accent they spout, or the multi-culturalism that they're exposed to......finally the jihadi flame does not flicker out😏
@roman5782
3 жыл бұрын
@@shreepanicker Which part made you think so?
@p_gawde2623
3 жыл бұрын
@@roman5782 You could tell from his voice and body language that he didn't enjoy the parts which contradicts the leftist view. Plus the most surprising thing to him was muslims having similar beliefs as hindus. Which is the most natural thing to happen in a largely converted and minority community anywhere in the world. But it was hard for him to swallow only because the community happens to be muslim. Further, his reasonings behind some of the caste related findings were absurd.
@SR-mv2mf
2 жыл бұрын
Umm he is an athiest
@dhruvjolly3818
3 жыл бұрын
Two points on the evil eye and karma are basically pointers at their original Hindu or Vedic Genetic background before they became muslim ... It's coded .. you know best ... Subconscious too ... The evil eye is the All seeing eye 🙏
@lindyswing4368
3 жыл бұрын
The Evil eye comes from non-islamic practices that come from outside Indian subcontinent like Turkey, I believe !
@Yuri.b2
3 жыл бұрын
@@lindyswing4368 not really, many yogis also talk about evil eye. Kirti mukha is placed in many temples and Hindu homes to ward off evil eye .
@RAIRADIO
3 жыл бұрын
Evil eye is the reason they give to make women cover up.
@meetkhatri1099
3 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with Hindi as a criteria for being a nationalist. From west.
@smoky3302
3 жыл бұрын
Nations need a national link language in my view that language should be English . After all English is also Indo-European language.
@meetkhatri1099
3 жыл бұрын
@@smoky3302 There are some points that should be very clear: 1. Not knowing a nation linking language doesn't mean that you are not a nationalist. 2. You can use Sanskrit as the national language. For further understanding checkout this video kzitem.info/news/bejne/y2l6rqudsphmjKw 3. I don't believe any self-respecting civilization would use a language of the colonizers (excluding the fact how inferior english is) 4. Also Sanskrit is easier to learn than English if you speak or have learnt any Indian language (including South Indian languages)
@smoky3302
3 жыл бұрын
@@meetkhatri1099 and how are u going to translate plethora of scientific and mathematical knowledge in a dead language and teach it too the masses. The same problem is in vernacular language u have to translate all this knowledge in 20 languages if u want to taught every one seperately. One of the reason india is not growing is the lack of universal education but in which language u will educate especially science and maths .
@meetkhatri1099
3 жыл бұрын
@@smoky3302 Its a misconception that Sanskrit is a dead language. You can easily use Sanskrit words in any Indian language and people will still be able to understand it. I am not saying we will be able to completely change i.e. from using English to Sanskrit in just one day but in some 5-7 years we will be able change it. "Sometimes its more about the will than about the possibility"
@amlans5314
3 жыл бұрын
I also don’t agree with Hindi being projected as a national language for the nation, probably the only point I disagree in the poll. I would actually go with Sanskrit if it comes to that.
@atharvasharma5814
3 жыл бұрын
👍
@singhs2817
3 жыл бұрын
Razib Khan don;t believe in love jihad... but the same thing applies to you too.. Once you're ancestors were Hindu, Buddhists
@ghost_particle
3 жыл бұрын
karma in common knowledge has been reduced to as you sow so shall you reap... thats why more muslims believe in karma than in reincarnation
@RAIRADIO
3 жыл бұрын
Its been reduced because you being born poor or deformed because you did something badin your past life is a heinous thought and should be in the dust bin. Reincarnation can still happen, but not on the basis of karma points. Thats just inhumane.
@VSM101
3 жыл бұрын
Mumbia is not South was very more traditional they love there language they have centeries of trade with countries outside of india so they are socialy libiral even communist at times but have a strong Hindu idenities so religiously conservative. SOUTH and GOA Hindus eat BEEF.
@veerswami7175
3 жыл бұрын
Evil eye is a abrahmic concepts
@harshalsingh2750
3 жыл бұрын
Suppose hypothetically Taliban gains complete control of afganistan. And they appoint there sultan / king what should be India's move then??
@smoky3302
3 жыл бұрын
Paise pani me gaye aur kya jitna bhi afganistan pe invest kiya tha Taliban ke aane ke baad uska koi mahatav nahin.
@narenbaradwaj5058
3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry talks are going with Taliban Indian govt won't give up Afghanistan that easily because it's very important for India strategically to maintain trade with central asia but also to keep Pakistan under pressure
@anonymouslyopinionated656
3 жыл бұрын
hain? since when does the taliban have a king??
@ganeshav2768
3 жыл бұрын
Abhinav , to understand PEW survey better, you've to get hold of results from specific states like Kerala, Andhra , Bengal which have large non Hindu population. Problem with a common hindu citizen specially the educated middle class n above is that they don't want to see either the huge arabisation of Islam across the country since late eighties or the huge number of Christian denominations proliferating across the country inducing conversions. This group of hindus are happy with their lives , have severed roots from the community bcos of urbanisation and western values, and are carried away by pop culture of the bollywood and of the wokes teeming our media. They don't realise that the governments are even more short sighted and will look the other way as long as they can mobilise votes. They have no feelings for the hindus being religiously oppressed in India and elsewhere. They are happy to believe everything is hunky Dory and to be seen as broad minded. They still don't understand that when at the day of reckoning, broad minded has to be to that extent as to offer one's throat for cutting by muslims as exhorted by Gandhi , or of course to convert saying all gods are same and become slaves of a cult forever. If a section of hindus are are sending the warming calls it is because of the virulent form islam is taking once again after 100 years. Kerala and Tamil Nadu where this community followed local traditions for decades since independence excelljng in local language n literature, one can see them segregated in dress n lifestyle and even oppressing hindus in their ghettos. Remember, the hindus in these two states don't have any bad memories of partition and we're comfortable to live together. Hence a survey results of these states will give a different insights.
@madhosinghgujjar1298
3 жыл бұрын
Abhijit says india will never develop so what's the point of being an indian let's leave it and move to west .
@kusinara8936
3 жыл бұрын
abhijit is a drama queen
@Ashish-ss5nt
3 жыл бұрын
It will take many yrs, usa ko 245 saal lage tab jaake woh yaha pahucha hain
@shreyasprakash2267
3 жыл бұрын
He is not god , then tell me why did'nt sir CV Raman , Dr APJ Abdul Kalam , SirM Visverswaraya and many other noteable scientists leave India to west even though they had the chance and India was way worst back then , any one can easily quit on our country and leave , it takes guts to stand for ur nation and work for it , then only our country will develop
@paritoshdaurwal9484
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think so If reforms are done right It can be done.
@harisadu8998
3 жыл бұрын
If you take a short term view of a world where you must get enjoyment out of life without going through the struggles others must, then yes, you can escape to the west. If you want to be part of the growth of your country that's up to you. It may not be "developed" in your life time but you have to put the work into it.
@uprightwalkingape3483
3 жыл бұрын
Host is soft Hindutava. Deeply rooted in same Hindutava that BJP, Jan Sang, Congress, Hindu mahapreshad was or is Suger coated Hindu superiority, Yogi Modi apologist
@ritesharora6032
3 жыл бұрын
can someone explaisn what Razib Khan says about geentics of indian subcontinent. how far is this true that muslims have central asian dna ?
@ritesharora6032
3 жыл бұрын
@@uccforbharat9664 im north indian. mostly i see brown people
@denk3236
3 жыл бұрын
@@ritesharora6032 Bro come to West UP. There are muslims of Turks ancestory who write turk in their name. That Hyderabad's nawab or whatever was from central Asia. came as commander and was given land to rule. Very few are Central asian and there are written records of them. And you can't differentiate them with skin colour
@ritesharora6032
3 жыл бұрын
@@denk3236 but they came in very small numbers compared to population present in india at that time and they married hindu women
@denk3236
3 жыл бұрын
@@ritesharora6032 Non of them married hindu woman. Most married women born as muslims and some married hindu converts to Islam. Babar's wife and mother came India from Uzbekistan. Mostly central Asians and Afghans married in thier own central Asian and Afghans tribes because they were the ruling class. Only local muslims in the administration who were converted married other converted locals. Listen less to Tarek Fatehs baseless shit that Pakistanio k maaye Hindu thi. Actually Pakistanio k baap bhi hindu the aur dono convert hue
@amlans5314
3 жыл бұрын
@@ritesharora6032 very less, most of them are native converts and only a few have marginal ancestry from outside mostly elites. They only simp to become arabs & turks due to inferiority complex. Dont fall for conspiracy theories from both sides. You can check out genetic studies online.
@lakshyabhardwaj9541
3 жыл бұрын
Cricket is religion!
@smoky3302
3 жыл бұрын
Let us all convert to lingyatism thete is no caste atleast in the vachana sathitya . And u can worship Shiva the most popular god as per the research .
@shubhamtiwari7008
3 жыл бұрын
can you give more practical solutions?
@mos5139
3 жыл бұрын
Finally you read about lingayatism.
@mos5139
3 жыл бұрын
@@shubhamtiwari7008 he is correct it is a caste free form of Shaivavism.
@mos5139
3 жыл бұрын
@@shubhamtiwari7008 Those who are Vaishnav may convert to sankardevs vaishnavavism or follow ( Strictly) Ramanujas Srivaishnav philosophy.
@smoky3302
3 жыл бұрын
@@mos5139how about Ayyavazhi.
@prashantshukla8545
3 жыл бұрын
Jain's don't have caste
@09anup09
3 жыл бұрын
In the report people respond with what is their caste
@vimalm
3 жыл бұрын
Was surprised to hear razib talk about jain Brahmins and banias.
@adityaabishek8527
3 жыл бұрын
All religions have caste but only Hindus get demonised for it to keep them pinned down.
@anonymouslyopinionated656
3 жыл бұрын
jains have jati.
@amlans5314
3 жыл бұрын
Most of them are largely from upper caste bania community actually.
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