Saw one of these on a BRZ today. A buddy of mine took a ride in it and said he could definitely feel the torque increase low-mid and midrange. His opinion was that its definitely a viable boost option for someone not looking for not a lot of boost and that its more of an every day useable mod. At the very least, it made the car feel like it should have out of the factory instead of what we actually got.
@atrippy5198
9 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that someone came out with this. I've always wanted to make a kit from the compressor portion of a turbo kit but couldn't find a motor that is powerful or reliable enough to keep it spinning. Too bad this is only on demand and it not full time force induction.
@prestonjames6776
9 жыл бұрын
Not only do you not produce any kind of boost but now you've made your car heavier. Congratulations.
@MrEvilTag
Жыл бұрын
You do, it's just in very small bursts and only at full throttle
@whoseverpanic3160
3 жыл бұрын
I had a thought (I am an apprentice mechanic so I do not know much but am applying some ideas and theory) Run a 180+amp alternator with a higher ampere and cca battery with a 250-300cca battery in series (Increasing amps but not voltage) with a switch to open or close the circuit in the interior of the car to activate or deacticate the electric supercharger. You could also run a split pipe, one end running through the supercharger and the other directly to the engine which they converge into one
@paulcherry1520
7 жыл бұрын
These phantom superchargers actually do work they use a compressor which is driven by a big brushless motor and huge batteries when at full throttle they build 5-7 pounds of boost
@ScottPC
8 жыл бұрын
I like the way everyone thinks there Pro mechanics after watching the mighty car mods video!
@ahmedkhalid7383
8 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@nathantaylor9144
8 жыл бұрын
My wife doesn't like it when I watch videos like this. Same thing with DIY Network - Sweat Equity or anything like that. Because I watch the show... then I'm staring at a wall in my house thinking.."hmm.. I don't think that's a load bearing wall..." while I'm holding a sledgehammer in my hands....
@AhrennerhA
6 жыл бұрын
You know whats funny is people clearly havent seen the video where mcm create mad intake from two leaf blowers, which had definitive boost
@MegaLad69
8 жыл бұрын
yea, i put this on a 1.6lt ford fiesta, its putting over 1000hp to the wheels now and destroying lambos and gtr's. hell, i cant launch the car too hard because it alters the rotation of the earth with all the torque it produces but its because i used 15 ups batteries wich also give the car v-tac,AWD,No2. i didnt connect the 16th ups battey because the car would gain hyper-drive and i dont want to end up in the far end of the galaxy. i'm guessing if put the 16th and add a 17th ups battery the car could do the kessel un in under 5 parsecs!
@2exclusive240
8 жыл бұрын
lmao
@simonbell9253
8 жыл бұрын
+OrDxOrD Yeah same in my pug xsi 1.6. Good job we didn't trial the cars together, it would probably have caused a time paradox which would end civilisation as we know it. Again.
@microwavedugfood
8 жыл бұрын
But he claims he only got an extra 65 horsey powers.... He might have used too much electrical tape and cable ties though.
@MasterShot-ke1mr
7 жыл бұрын
OrDxOrD A parsec is a mesure of distance. The Kessel run line from star wars makes as much sense as saying.... "I really saved a lot of time, i got from Tampa to Baltimore in under 500 miles." the trip is 900 miles and a parsec is 3.086×10^13 kilometers or about 3.26 light years.
@godfreypoon5148
7 жыл бұрын
+Викентий Мадзин Yeah well I can get from Tampa to Baltimore in under 450 miles.
@andrewesquivel
7 жыл бұрын
the reason electric superchargers don't work is because generally it's just a fan that tries to blow air into the intake. The problem is they don't actually create pressure. Theoretically, if you have an actual turbo charger and use an electric motor to spool up the turbo you can get a device that's actually designed to create pressure to do its thing. that's the theory anyway
@ohiogeorgiangaming1016
7 жыл бұрын
andrewesquivel i dont look for the small remakes of turbos i usualy look for thin 5 hp preassure blowers that are electric and i have a feeling those would be better its a 400$ system still cheaper than a normal turbo but i never tried it. check out a Dayton high pressure blower
@andrewesquivel
7 жыл бұрын
mr42ndstblvd of that's the case, then in theory they should work
@andrewesquivel
7 жыл бұрын
mr42ndstblvd then I guess most people here are thinking it's the gimmicky electric fans that's mighty car mods tested. If they are actual turbos spooled with an electric motor, then it's nothing like what might car mods tested.
@sergecampeau2844
7 жыл бұрын
You don't know what you are talking about. This one is made of a centrifugal compressor. Only 4-5 psi but still enough for a significant power increase.
@codyburns4149
6 жыл бұрын
Turbos push heat not boost.
@larrynance17
7 жыл бұрын
ok. ive watched the entire vid. just to see if there was gonna be a tune for more fuel. and nope. just because u forced more air doesn't increase horsepower. the more air the more fuel. that is where u get more hp. i do like being able to run it without drawing power from the crank with a belt. parasitic loss. but just adding more air is not doing anything. but im just an ase certified tech. so dont take my advice.
@sojhinn
7 жыл бұрын
larrynance17 I've responded to a few people about this but I never said it didn't need a tune. In fact I strongly recommend it. The tune is loaded through an open flash tablet. I also had to add gas, use a key to turn on the car, and get a license to legally drive.
@2hrsToChooseThis
7 жыл бұрын
Basically a new HO fuel pump and new injectors, right?
@MsSomeonenew
7 жыл бұрын
The boost from this thing is very minor, highly unlikely that any other components need changing.
@nickybotz9115
7 жыл бұрын
larrynance17
@larrynance17
7 жыл бұрын
Richard Sautell yes. the purpose of getting a tune is to turn up injectors. and adjust according to air flow/boost pressure. but i dont believe it will make a huge swing in hp. but i could be wrong. im not familiar with this style of boosting. but adding weight of extra batteries and etc kind of defeats the purpose.
@mwcdx
8 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your hard work you put into this project. I personally would of went another direction with the money spent. Thanks for sharing
@johnwhite1025
7 жыл бұрын
eletric superchargers are awsome I have one on my space shuttle
@eranjones5994
5 жыл бұрын
I've got one on my paddle board!
@ronaldshepard4625
6 жыл бұрын
Always remove the ground first, Not the positive. If you have your wrench on the positive and it accidentally touches the ground you will have a direct short a big spark and a hot wrench!
@GuitarsnCars
4 жыл бұрын
Drinking game, shot of Whiskey every time he says “go ahead” 😁
@charleshlebain3223
7 жыл бұрын
improved low end torque at high altitude? made my own back in the early 90s ran it straight off the bat with a switch!
@arkadiuszmynarski1345
7 жыл бұрын
how much power have you lost ? ? ? :D
@nickybotz9115
7 жыл бұрын
super clean instal brother!!! but no matter what kind of force fed boost/psi or even juice/bottle you need to add more fuel in at least 1 way for any kind of power to be added and for it to work/run rite brother even for a Echarger
@sojhinn
7 жыл бұрын
NickyBotz tune helps with that. Which I recommend
@baddriversofnorthtexas6850
7 жыл бұрын
I down voted this 3 months ago and KZitem recommends me to watch it again...
@baddriversofnorthtexas6850
7 жыл бұрын
and again
@Norenborg
7 жыл бұрын
I heard leafblowers work. Perhaps you should try a few of those?
@MaherTrex500
9 жыл бұрын
Can you show us some objective results please. Like 0 to 60 with and without. Or boost pressure gauge on various rpm. Or maybe a dayno.
@Reedic20
5 жыл бұрын
Maher Alatrash he won’t because I’m willing to bet the car lost power lol
@jonathannavarro8342
8 жыл бұрын
my battery can i use the same one or i have to change it .
@chrisdavidpham
9 жыл бұрын
Wow, big flame war in the comments. I think everybody should be more open minded. Steve, not everybody understands new technology, and people with strong biases rather stay in the dark than learn about how the Phantom ESC works. I think the ESC has its advantages; its cheaper than super/turbo chargers, and it won't cause the heat issues of a turbo that is KNOWN to be a problem in these cars (see ft86club forums). Will it out-perform super/turbo chargers? Of course not, but that's not what this video is about. Steve was nice enough to make an installation video for those looking to buy the Phantom, but the internet trolls have come to flame him because saying "electric" and "supercharger" in the same sentence is a crime /s.
@sojhinn
9 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris you are right. I apologize for my comments as I let someone get under my skin. Thank you for your comments. And if you are ever near San Diego let me know. I'll be happy to give you a ride.
@tomb9818
8 жыл бұрын
+geheimschriver Because physics doesn't allow for compressed air, okay.
@tomb9818
8 жыл бұрын
This might be a valid point if the electric turbo actually drew its power directly from the alternator - but that's not how it works. The turbo is powered from a separate battery bank that is trickle charged during normal driving, thus only sapping a negligible amount of power. Manufacturers don't use it because it is yet to be developed properly, and if you do some research you'll see that some manufacturers are already successfully trialling such technology. The Phantom electric supercharger is a proof of concept, really, and if you look into the results it does actually work very well for what it is. I am no physicist, but the evidence is there, and is says you are wrong. This shit works.
@tomb9818
8 жыл бұрын
Again, I don't know the math behind it, I just know that the evidence says the product works.
@atrippy5198
8 жыл бұрын
+geheimschriver Wow. There are pro and cons to all of these chargers kits (do not add the fan blowers that are advertised on eBay). The most major flaw of the esupercharger is that it can't run constantly because the reliant on the provided battery. It is an interesting setup and worth prototyping but its not for the feeble minded, eg geheimschriver. and people who think this is a turbo replacement. Cost wise it is great but I wouldn't take this over a turbo.
@marinerovrataric4979
8 жыл бұрын
in fact it bothers passing air. why because the engine needs a lot more air. This blower bothered to properly set up the factory intake and a good passage of air. it has been proven that the transfer of the wheels gets less force for 6-8 hp. tested the car has 145 hp -148 on the first measurement. After installation, the second measuring car has 135 hp. at high engine speed 4500-5000 rpm power starts to fall because the car needs more air
@slash320
7 жыл бұрын
hi steve. where i can buy this supercharger please? thanks
@olgitpicker6542
7 жыл бұрын
Steve, great job explaining this diy supercharger..its really turned out pro looking..i used plastic dip on my outside emblems thank you
@jrichard73
8 жыл бұрын
I have no comment on this unit because I am not familiar with it but I think it is funny how so many people in the comments think they know everything because they saw something on mighty cars mods. Actually Valeo I believe builds electric superchargers and they are being tested and may be released on 2016 Audio and Volvo is working with the technology as well. Is this unit the quality of the Valeo doubtful but remember that at one point in time people thought the earth was flat also.
@NotMeeither
7 жыл бұрын
When working with a car battery always Remove the negative (ground , - ) cable first never the positive ( hot , + ) like this guy says ! and you connect the positive first then the negative !!
@BlackCatRedScarf
8 жыл бұрын
I got a small old Fiesta with a 999cc 8v Zetec Rocam with small Eaton M24 blower. The stock engine produced 66hp @ 5800~6000 RPM with 87 octane gas on my first measures on dyno and after setup the blower, Mini MS1 ECU, changing fuel to ethanol and intercooler, I managed to extract the maximum power possible from that M24 Eaton the engine output was 114,8hp @ 7000 RPM with a boost around 0.63 bar (~9.13 psi). After some study on top of the ECU logs, we notice that the engine was actually producing 133hp. This means... a tiny M24 Eaton power consumption is around 18hp... this is around 13kW of power... If my power source to spin the blower was at 28volts, that would means at least 460 amps... which is quite unfeasible without thick wiring and really high standards electronics (usually too expensive for fun or hobby purposes). It would be possible to run the blower... maybe with a lower 'kv' (it's a RPM/volt constant commonly used on RC cars, planes, drones...) with a very high voltage pack could do the job. The most powerful electric RC plane motor that I saw was able produce 7 kW of power, which is not bad to begin with. I would like to know more technical stuff about it... Like... put the car on dyno with and without the electric blower... measure the current draw and voltage during a full boost. Right now, look like there are couple things that simple don't "click" right with this blower. Don't get me wrong, I would like to see a true functional "e-blower" working right in front of me with all the numbers and data proving that it is real. And I do a lot of search about better electric motors to do this kind of job... but so far, the only thing that I saw was big powerful fans that produce very little or next to zero boost when the engine reach higher revs. Anyway, what you feel after putting this blower on the car is very subjective and questionable. Show us more numbers and results, because people can't do anything when it about facts. ;D Thanks for the video!
@jontanneguy4960
8 жыл бұрын
+T “Sukyake Akido” Mathias You can try to compare kW consumed by the eaton supercharger vs an electric motor, but depending on the motor used, it is probably incomparable. One thing that needs to be mentioned is the parasitic losses from the belt and other attachments, as well as the parasitic loss at high rpm. The supercharger is designed to produce a certain flow at a certain RPM and, if a smaller pulley was used, more boost would be gained. So for electric motors, we must take into account the winding style, number of poles, wire gauge, and number of turns per stator (assuming this is a very efficient BLDC). A high voltage BLDC motor would be perfect; low amp draw, low heat, maximum efficiency. Consider the Turnigy RotoMax 150cc Size Brushless Outrunner Motor. The dimensions are 4.3" wide and 3.6" long. It would be nice to have the actual HP figures, but the HP on a 150cc gas engine could be quite high... the max RPM is probably around 8000 or so. Out of box this thing would probably have no problem turning the eaton supercharger; and with a gear drive system, it could probably make the desired boost pressure.
@BlackCatRedScarf
8 жыл бұрын
+Jon Tanneguy Yep. I'm pretty sure the power loss due the belt is there, but looking into some Eaton data, in theory it should should be drawing 17hp at it's maximum boost (pressure ratio reaching 1.7) and maximum speed (18000 RPM ). It's probably higher due the very small pulley and the very well bended 6pk rubber belt, besides the fact that the blower is actually running a little bit... overspeed.. around 19000 RPM, but on the graphs... look like I could got even further on the maximum revs with this 1.0 Rocam (I used to run at 7500 RPM with a bigger pulley on the blower), but I choose to take it easy to ensure that the car could run safely during a 6 hours track day. But... yeah! A 8000 RPM electric with the proper transmission ratio could make a desire boost, but the only problem still... how to make a proper recharging system to feed a high voltage pack (I suppose, I'll be running a 74~96,2V LiPo or something close to that with LiFePO4) automatically? This will require a little bit more study time with electronics here for me. Besides that... I'm not really sure if the root blower would be really beneficial to the electric blower project, since... the good deal of root compressor is the fact it have a nice early boost at lower revs that keeps growing when it reach higher revs, but the efficiency still not so good as the centrifugal compressor and with a electric motor and seems to be quite easy to have a feedback system with a manifold air pressure (MAP) sensor to kill the "turbo lag". In other words, sustain a constant pressure or programmed pressure by RPM (and even throttle position) while the the compressor speed is controlled by the feedback system attached to the MAP... something similar to what is done on a ECU with boost controller trimming the turbo speed with the waste gate. At same time, a centrifugal compressor requires very high speeds (just to give an idea... something between 150k and 230k RPM depending on the design of compressor) to actually work, which can be quite tricky if you are going to need to put a gearbox with large ratios... I wonder if there is a nice high speed electric motor, just like the ones used on the EDF (electric ducted fan) planes that got enough power and speed to make efficient direct drive setup, just like the one shown in this video. And I still wonder how much power it's needed to create fairly high boosts (when the pressure ratio is around 2) for a 1 liter engine @ 7000 RPM... it's very curious information that I never found on the turbo charts, since they use the exhaust power (and creates a bit of back pressure... still not completely free energy! hahaha ;D) to work. This is why I'm interested on more numbers and concrete results from this phantom electric blower. :D Even if I don't know exactly what kind of compressor dimensions are being used, at least I could have few numbers to begin with. And... I don't plan to spend money without being really sure of what am I doing... you know... turbos, roots blowers, batteries and high power brushless motor setups are not exactly cheap and making new parts and designing, making new parts and adaptations requires a lot of time. In short terms, it's a project that requires cash and time. I already know what happens when you try to do something unusual but known on the car... it's already very demanding, but very rewarding when you manage to do it right. hahaha ;D But... it's very nice to see more people interested in a serious concept of the electric blower. It will be pretty cool when we have properly tested and functional electric blower that can be attached to any engine without any need to make major modifications on the engine... like... pulley and belt management of the blowers or the exhaust pipe, oil ducts and even water cooling modifications of the turbos.
@jontanneguy4960
8 жыл бұрын
For electric scavenging, the best thought is to use a set of super caps for quick drain/quick charge. Sustained boost for more than 10 seconds would probably be out of the question. One thing to look at on modern cars is the alternator. The ratio is about 3:1 so when your engine is spinning at 7k rpm you have an alternator with a decent sized iron core mass spinning at around 21k rpm. To reduce the alternator to a 1:1 ratio, thinner gauge wire should be used, and a more powerful bifilar wound magnet for the exciter. Multiple thinner gauge wire could be wound up in parallel to try and increase the output. However the wires need to be isolated by diodes and can't just be soldered together (just at one end). It's said an alternator consumes a considerable amount of horsepower and I'll believe it; especially at high RPM. 150k rpm for an electric motor is definitely possible. The best operating voltage would be around 5kv to 10kv and run at radio frequency. Special wire must be used to avoid arc over. The amps would also be very low so it should be extremely efficient. The pulse circuitry would be on the low end and then to a highly efficient transformer setup. Professor Gennady Markov has a nice patent on the type of transformer needed for such a setup. I wish I had the time and money to experiment!
@frankgonzalez24
9 жыл бұрын
If you think this product works, I'd like to talk you about ocean front property on the moon I have for sale. Quiet, great views and no neighbors for miles. SERIOUS INQUARIES ONLY.
@1337pudding
9 жыл бұрын
***** Very basic systems are around 4-5k if you do the install yourself not including supporting mods or tune.
@dominicdaley5702
8 жыл бұрын
hahahahahaa
@franciscohernandez398
7 жыл бұрын
Frank Gonzalez. how much is the least you take and are there schools near by
@robvoyles
4 жыл бұрын
bring me the property because i installed one and at 5psi boost i picked up 62hp.
@adrongarretson6195
7 жыл бұрын
And by the way your Fasteners are called hose clamps and you never never never take the positive cable off first you always take the negative cable off first
@shexdensmore
8 жыл бұрын
i know that I'm not a gearhead, but there's a HUGE difference between turbos and superchars. what you are using is a TURBO charger.
@tylerbonser7686
8 жыл бұрын
You are certainly not a gearhead. A turbo charger is powered by your exhaust. This clearly is not hooked up to his exhaust. You might want to youtube how a turbo and super charger work before you make stupid comments.
@sheenawheeler9808
4 жыл бұрын
I hope they come up with one that works better.I like the way these don't take up so much under hood space.I think a concept like this would be great in. A plow truck or something you want just a little more torque from with out all the plumbing..Wonder if they could gear the motor to spin the bitch up faster it may actually boost instead of choke..looks to me like it would be a big restriction unless your full throttle..I also think it should work all rpms...not just a switch...I'm sure technology will catch up and make this a great product...
@sojhinn
8 жыл бұрын
I appreciate everyone having so much interest in this video. I also find it funny that people spend on average thirty seconds watching the video and then making comments. I have had multiple iterations of the Phantom Installed in my car for the past two years now. My batteries haven't blown up, my alternator hasn't fried, and I've been producing 5 psi at around 3000 rpm. Later this week Ill be installing a boost guage for my car, and I'll upload a video that shows boost being produced. I can care less if you believe the system works or not, since there are hundreds of people now using the system across corollas, miatas, BRZ/FT86, and volkswagens. If you just take a look on the net you can see how its worked and what people think of it. Including third party testers. And I've said before I'm just a user and have no stake in the company that produces the kit (though I wish I did). I created this INSTALL video to help those that bought the system. Have a great holiday everyone.
@benttt12
8 жыл бұрын
+Steve Grau wondering how to know it creates 5psi at 3000rpm when you said you don't have a boost gauge.... this does nothing but stop being in denial, these are a complete waste of time
@sojhinn
8 жыл бұрын
I have a logger through the odb2 port. I've posted logs down below. Also have a boost gauge installed now that shows the boost. It supports what I said about 5 psi.
@Awesomeman1987
8 жыл бұрын
I find it very interesting that you are able to notice a significant difference. from what I read, the calculated force/speed required to flow air for a 2l 4 cylinder is extremely high, like 1 hp pool pump type of power output. but then again, that is from a forum.
@eivis13
8 жыл бұрын
+Awesomeman1987 toyota 3zz fe (1.6) sucks in ~90g/s of air @5550 rpm so in theory this the boxer should need ~113g/s of air at the same speed if the ecu map had the same or similar algorithms. If i were you i'd check the air speed and not the pressure, since i've seen ~4bar when downshifting from 4th to 3rd on that same engine.
@SteveBlues87
8 жыл бұрын
+Steve Grau But WHERE DO YOU BUY ONE!?
@idiotwithasolderingiron
7 жыл бұрын
how does a fan create pressure in a vacuum and if it did I see no inner cooler. boost 101 pressure creates heat and hot air expands making it less dense. Therefore loosing the benefit of the turbo.
@erikdevaney4781
7 жыл бұрын
dont ever rely on hand tightening when your dealing with electrical components. decrease in power and reliabiblity
@justinhughes134
9 жыл бұрын
Very detailed install vid im glad some people actually take time to put these together very well made and very informative thankyou
@OHHyaKnow
5 жыл бұрын
I’m not a fan of extra weight yet you’re adding this shit to the car😂😂😂😂
@crazzyzack
8 жыл бұрын
I would recommend getting the perrin cold air intake or the mishimoto cold air intake because they will work with the supercharger.
@sojhinn
8 жыл бұрын
+Zakaria KTM I actually bought the mishimoto intake. It works great.
@Wolfdogelite
9 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, you mentioned having an aftermarket tablet install and that others were using aftermarket decks as well. I'm on the waiting list for the system, but as I'm currently doing a complete audio system overhaul, speakers, deck and amp + sub, I was wondering what your thoughts are on how it will work with the required battery setup. I could ask phantom themselves, but I know they're busy and don't always get back immediately so I thought I'd ask you as well. My biggest concern is the charge cycles they would go through. I would think constantly discharging and charging the batteries could wear them out faster than intended with all that draw on the electrical system.
@sojhinn
9 жыл бұрын
Actually I just setup a complete audio system in the car with an amp and sub. Since the main battery is separate of the charge pack it doesn't effect the audio system. It's been working great. If you want message me on the forums (sojhinn) and I can help with the install or ideas.
@Wolfdogelite
9 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Will do. Thank you for the info, and the video, it will be very useful 6-8 months from now when I actually get my charger hah
@starbattles1
7 жыл бұрын
you would need a boost guage and see if it makes boost. Then you need an ECU that you can program for bost. Or stand alone ecu and laptop you can tune. The current ecu will not make the adjustments on it's own. Even if it only made 3lbs of boost. If you have the right fuel curve it would make optimal gains for that boost. I am wondering how many it would take in a line to make 15 lbs of boost lol. What does each one make? I guess it's possible if the intake is set up for boost. Check valves in place on PCV system so boost don't leak to the internal engine via valve covers. The intake has to hold pressure. Cap off the intake and pressurize it. Make sure it holds at least 1 minute. I could see how it might make 2-3 lbs. But can it keep up at high rpms? Normal turbo's speed up with exhaust speed. Super chargers speed up on RPM speed. These are just a constant flow. So boost will start high and taper off as rpm's go up. Might provide a little low and mid range improvement with an ecu mapped right and air tight intake system.
@WhiteGravey
10 жыл бұрын
did the dyno tuner laugh at you when you told them you had an electric supercharger?
@sojhinn
10 жыл бұрын
Honestly a lot of people thought it was a joke at first. But there are about 50 of us running the system now, and they have been proven time and time again. Its hard to shake the skepticism but its the real deal.
@WhiteGravey
10 жыл бұрын
***** telling someone to educate themselves when your running a 30K car off powerwheel batteries... nice one kiddo.
@johnnybertolli1851
10 жыл бұрын
KoG GoK im sure the tuner along with everyone there laughed his dumb ass out of the shop
@WhiteGravey
10 жыл бұрын
***** dont forget to use some slick 50 and some of those mpg gas pills...
@johnnybertolli1851
10 жыл бұрын
***** hey bob i heard flame decals add 20+hp. I got the dyno and the forum replies to prove it lol
@HomasterX
9 жыл бұрын
The whoosh only happens if you have a blow off valve, I didn't see you install one
@mystycim
10 жыл бұрын
There are electric superchargers that do work but NONE of them are 12 volt, 12 volt does not and can not spin fast enough for the RPM needing to pressurize air, only 24 and 48 volt can. Audi is running a 48 volt turbo on their triple turbo diesel, and it works, VERY well.
@sojhinn
10 жыл бұрын
This system runs on 24 volts. Works great. I have had the system in my car for a year now.
@mystycim
10 жыл бұрын
Steve Grau And what sort of boost does it even make?
@MillaMilla7
10 жыл бұрын
But how good is it with supporting mods say full exhaust, custom chip, k and n CAI, Brian crower stage 2 cams, port and polished heads 500cc injectors, 255lph walboro in tank fuel pump, port and polished throttle body, and under drive pulleys?
@sojhinn
10 жыл бұрын
If you are spending that much just go full time fi. This system is for those who want an extra 75 hp 85/tq while not breaking the bank. If you can casually drop 6k just get full time forced injection.
@larrybroad8746
Жыл бұрын
would it not be easier to just get a higher amperage alternator to run the turbine?
@WraithCommander42
10 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I am not buying this until someone shows me a dyno test where an air pressure gauge is attached showing how much boost is made. Turbos spin at 100,000rpm for a reason.
@robertmarkham6558
7 жыл бұрын
Isn't it plastic? can't someone put a stupidly powerful electric motor onto a normal turbo and just blank off the exhaust side and huck up a motor?
@JoeTaco83
9 жыл бұрын
Ok. Lets say this does work. Why cant it be done with the regular car battery. Now to me it looks like it does work but im sure its about half the power that you would get from a full on turbo system. But if it give you a minimum 15% hp increase than maybe it is worth it but only if this phantom system is less than $1000.
@firefox7530
9 жыл бұрын
Jose Olvera Does your car batterly deliver 28V? ;-) Ok, if you drive a Scania Truck with a 24V system then maybe but normal cars just deliver 12V. The electric motor needs a 24V system to run.... Audi actually uses in one of their studies a 48V system to drive an electric charger.... You can leave your starter Battery where it is and just find an other place for the 24V battery pack..... Of course you have to rewire everything.....
@nickybotz9115
7 жыл бұрын
nice instal brother super clean job ....... but no matter what to add power via any forced induction and or the bottle/spray you need to add FUEL in at least 1 way even for a E-Charger and u def need a ecu Reflash/or ecu Tune/reflash On The dyno even just a fuel regulator would do the job for a Echarger
@maxsu8795
5 жыл бұрын
How much psi increased from the supercharger? 1 or 2 psi? Why not mention the most important number?
@larrybroad8746
Жыл бұрын
should have ran the activation switch to the T B you did not show me anything start from the beginning and show people what wires and vacuum lines go to what connector on the control box i am completely lost at this point.
@ItsJustCarl1983
7 жыл бұрын
How much weight does all this add to your car?
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym
4 жыл бұрын
If MAP are correction by vacuum in intake mainfold what happend with MAP after addicted air not correct for RPM or LAMBDA sensor?
@OverlandTT
7 жыл бұрын
I watched the entire video, but maybe I missed are you starting and charging 30volts on your car?
@otownhardcore
7 жыл бұрын
Dyno sheets or you are trolling. You can't be so I'll informed... Can you? As stated all ready, putting more air in the motor does not create boost. Boost is created by the air density in the cylinders. Even if this did work, you would have to change the timing, spark, fuel pressure/flow etc. If not you would just be running lean. The car would run worse. This is pretty basic stuff dudes.
@lilm1kemike
7 жыл бұрын
are you still able to run subs and lights and stuff on that little battery ?????????
@aumetalmental8403
5 жыл бұрын
What's the horsepower to weight of batteries ratio??? More air, same amount of fuel...🤔
@joeKisonue
2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't say anywhere what car this is being installed in. Nice title and description 👌
@TheHAMR1111
8 жыл бұрын
I do believe that that will create some boost however i didnt get to see the compressor wheel so i know if it does have the turbo ability because normal fan will not create boost. But even if it does create boost that doesnt mean its creating more power. Since that does not have an intercooler the heated air (because of compression) is not very efficient.
@TheHAMR1111
8 жыл бұрын
Plus that electric motor does not have the ability to spin the compressor wheel as fast as the exhaust gas can turn the turbine wheel
@CONSPIR4CY
8 жыл бұрын
what is electronic super charger? what does it do? i already have a turbo on my evo 8 can i install that as well?
@josecasado7511
8 жыл бұрын
I actually feel bad for this guy...
@jesusjessereyes6633
4 жыл бұрын
Yo I feel bad for the car!
@lsx_moe
8 жыл бұрын
great install vid, but I wish it was you installing a real supercharger, this will restrict air in the top end, it's a wayste.
@coltonhart7660
7 жыл бұрын
Alright awesome. I have a Turbocharged 05 Mustang GT. do you think I could hook one of these ONTOP of the turbocharger?
@kingfishersingh2813
7 жыл бұрын
colton hart Are you joking ?
@coltonhart7660
7 жыл бұрын
no, my mustang GT is boosted but i want more horsepower without cranking my turbocharger over 8 psi. it goes to 38 PSI but thats unneeded...
@kingfishersingh2813
7 жыл бұрын
colton hart this thing is garbage.... i suggest you chose other options
@MsSomeonenew
7 жыл бұрын
These are only for small engines and 5 PSI tops, so you are already far far outside their range.
@coltonhart7660
7 жыл бұрын
Summit X The turbo wasnt added from factory. this is an 05 Mustang GT.with a 4.7L V8 modular 3 valve. mine made a little over 512 horsepower. and i was looking to add a little bit of other boost without cranking mine up to 36 PSI
@sergecampeau2844
7 жыл бұрын
I did not watch the whole video. How long does it need to install this whole system?
@tylerbonser7686
8 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many rpms this thing turns. Since a belt drive supercharger turns at 100,000 rpms or more. I'm really doubting this comes close to that. Need to do at least a airflow test to see how many cfm it flows. Seat of the pants tests prove nothing no matter what mods you do.
@trymonster6670
4 жыл бұрын
trust me you're adding more weight than you can gain in power if that makes sense so basically you're making power to weight ratio worse by doing this.
@crashken7173
7 жыл бұрын
Where's the fuel adjustment? Where's the timing adjustment and other tuning?
@joshcoverston6084
8 жыл бұрын
How can I get one? I've emailed them an waited a couple weeks and have heard nothing. Suggestions??
@CHANGONATION
5 жыл бұрын
Man you made me not want to look into this anymore with all the trouble you are going through to set it up. Thanks for the video though.
@adrian_zombturtle148
2 жыл бұрын
Isn't a electric supercharger just a fancy leaf blower?
@MasteringHow-To
7 жыл бұрын
What if my battery is in my trunk
@kev60625
3 жыл бұрын
Hey steve, how come the new install video is unavailable? Thanks
@brojynks
9 жыл бұрын
hey steve, several of the guys from my forum are trying to get ahold of phantom with both phone calls and emails with no reply, how do we get ahold of them?
@sojhinn
9 жыл бұрын
Best way to get a hold of him is through the ft85 forums. As a heads up there's about 40 people waiting for the system. So expect a 6-8 month wait time.
@sojhinn
9 жыл бұрын
Ft86 forums
@brojynks
9 жыл бұрын
sounds like they need to ramp production, lol. thanks.
@williampotts3008
5 жыл бұрын
The claimed horsepower is also phantom ......
@ironlama1
9 жыл бұрын
Would a supercharger powered by a small lawn mower engine work?
@hotpapayasalad
8 жыл бұрын
+bourbonballs b i think it would work great on my push mower. cut grass like hell LOL
@cr4zyw3ld3r
4 жыл бұрын
I have some weird issue with mine where at idle the car frequently just dies. Then all of a sudden the turbine spins. Or the car starts to idle really rough with the rpm jumping between 600 and 1900 rpm randomly and the turbine spooling all over the place. Not sure if this is some kind of wiring problem on my end or something with the main car battery . Any advice would help.
@sojhinn
4 жыл бұрын
cr4zyw3ld3r foot switch or procede?
@cr4zyw3ld3r
4 жыл бұрын
@@sojhinn foot switch. It looks like going over your video my kit seems to be missing the DRS output piece. I have the 5kW model.
@sojhinn
4 жыл бұрын
cr4zyw3ld3r sounds like a loose wire. Check all your connections and see if anything needs to be resoldered. Start at the foot switch and work your way back to the controller. You have a tune yes?
@cr4zyw3ld3r
4 жыл бұрын
@@sojhinn yes Ecutek tuned*
@cr4zyw3ld3r
4 жыл бұрын
@@sojhinn the foot switch seems to be just fine. I think that the missing DRS piece is the issue here since the turbine is not spooling to atmo without that piece. I will recheck the other connections as well.
@vaioskaliakoudas6388
7 жыл бұрын
Can I use the stock battery of the car to control the supercharger?
@travisroach8847
3 жыл бұрын
Could this be done with a k&n cold air intake kit
@johnlucier5654
6 жыл бұрын
These things really work! I installed one on my Bugatti Veyron and gained .5 horsepower and shaved .002 seconds off my 1/4 mile time. You can really feel it in the seat of your pants, makes you say "wow I really got bent over and reamed".
@sugeilsantiago6567
8 жыл бұрын
I would like to purchase one gone to phantom website can't see how to purchase system
@easttnlocalmusic6313
5 жыл бұрын
Why the fuck am I watching this lmfao... I guess probably because is hilarious
@SteveBlues87
8 жыл бұрын
How do you purchase one? Nothing on the website
@theredvallesupershow
8 жыл бұрын
Hello Friend I am impressed this turbo electric is different to step watching on youtube... very interestingwhere can I get one? you have any link or online store to buy this turbo electric
@Past12Gaming
10 жыл бұрын
Alright, I'm about to lay down some knowledge. So firstly, let's all agree what forced induction is. Forced induction is the compression and densification of air taken in by a combustion engine. Now that we've got that out of the way, let's ask a big question: Can (in theory) electric superchargers work? Yes, absolutely. Have you SEEN how much torque a Tesla S makes? A shit ton, and they're using electronic motors to run their cars. Let me follow up with another question: Will this specific electronic supercharger work? Tentative. Honestly, I don't know enough about it to say. I don't know the specifications of the motor, or the size of the compressor etc etc, to affectively answer that question. It is likely, given past experiences, that no, this electronic supercharger doesn't make boost. However, it could be on the THRESHOLD of making boost (somewhere around 0.245 psi), which would result in better throttle response and torque. I've seen the dyno graphs the original poster has placed for us, but frankly dyno graphs can be faked. Therefore, I offer either the original poster or Phantom Superchargers a challenge: Make a video in which you 1) Connect a boost gauge to your intake piping and show us how much boost (forced induction) the system makes. 2) Perform a true and live dyno pull to show gains. If you choose to accept my challenge and prove me wrong, I WILL BUY a supercharger from Phantom and put it on my own ride. If you fail, you must denounce the product as a hoax. Do we have a wager?
@specialblend32
10 жыл бұрын
You wont be able to buy one though because there is a waitlist of approx 65 people.
@sojhinn
10 жыл бұрын
I have a dyno run somewhere at my house. I'll gladly post that for you. As for the boost gauge I don't have one but I can read the boost off my open flash tablet or I can post some logs. Your choice.
@atrippy5198
8 жыл бұрын
+Past12Gaming Stick with your videos games.
@rasec1889
10 ай бұрын
Donde se compra el Phantom Turbo?
@joserochaflores3859
5 жыл бұрын
Where you can buy one of electric superchargers
@pallavi9267
9 жыл бұрын
Damn, I love marketing guys! they can sell any crap they want!
@fishingct1663
8 жыл бұрын
when u said brass nipple I laughed so hard
@smhri
7 жыл бұрын
And the subtitles make it even better they say "breast nipple" instead of brass nipple
@jonathannavarro8342
8 жыл бұрын
i have a chrysler 300m 03 can that work for my car
@pieczarrr
10 жыл бұрын
Do you ship them to Europe too ? whats the shpping cost and custom duty cost?
@sojhinn
10 жыл бұрын
Best to contact rob (the creator) for more information on that. He can me reached at the ft86forums or at www.phantomsuperchargers.com
@stevecobratei8538
2 жыл бұрын
Just a F.YI. The wheelwell is where the tire and wheel is. The footwellis where you are working inside the car.
@jonsalisbury979
8 жыл бұрын
it might be cool to put on a small block depending on cost
@jesusacosta729
7 ай бұрын
Is there a link to buy?
@marinerovrataric4979
8 жыл бұрын
im am from ex Yugoslavia and when i was kid i have that kind hairdryer. for real, just got electric heater on front side but look is the same and that big. for .real, true! trust me. socialism, komunism . made in SSSR. from 1980-is by us all gadgets was made in SSSR. and still work like swiss clock
@okramw1
6 жыл бұрын
I installed one on my chainsaw, OMG it's fast. I can't lift it, but it's most impressive 😂
@jamesholland5560
9 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure there worth it because it looks great. Granted, but they cost 1800 dollars and that's about the same as a real turbo. Not sure if to get one plz help
@atrippy5198
8 жыл бұрын
+James Holland Once you go the turbo route, money just doesn't seem to keep falling out of your pocket. Fix this fix that and some odd reason the shop will always have you coming back to them for stuff. This kit doesn't run all day long so I wonder if you'll end up paying less money because it'll cause less strain on your engine.
@mikesecondo2254
5 жыл бұрын
Dyson vs shark...mmmm???
@KarsUpGraders
8 жыл бұрын
se ve interesante me gustaria ver el aumento de HP antes y despues de la instalacion y a mi punto de vista profesional me parece mucho mejor dejar la bateria original del carro pues el CCA es mucho mayor y estable
@mattsez2879
5 жыл бұрын
most fishing lures are designed to catch fishermen.....not fish. Save your money, do it right
@lesdavenport6649
7 жыл бұрын
Verbal preparation would have done this video wonders.
@rigstig
9 жыл бұрын
Wow some mightycarmods fans can be such dumbasses, Marty and Moog tested an electric supercharger on ebay that doesnt have a compressor housing, the impeller is acting like a fan ie. accelerating the air which is useless. The Phantom supercharger actually has a compressor housing, or scroll, or the SNAIL that mightycarmods enthusiastically refers to, except the impeller isnt driven by a belt or exhaust gas, but a big electric motor. This supercharger does work because it actually compresses air to create boost. The anatomy is exactly the same as a turbo, except the electric motor part.
@ItsAdust
7 жыл бұрын
Batteries should NEVER be placed directly on to concrete or the ground for that matter! IT'S CALLED GROUNDING OUT FOR A REASON! Use a block of wood or a wooden workbench.
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