Every time I watch one of your videos, I am taught something new. Thanks for sharing your SF knowledge with the rest of us.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
It's always been about sharing for me. Why keep the good stuff for yourself when it's such a joy to discuss it with others, right?
@rickkearn7100
7 ай бұрын
I had no idea Burroughs read a lot of Kuttner. It's phenomenal, OB, that you inject so much biographical detail into your episodes, effortless riffing actually, that gives one a better picture of the author. This and so much more. Thank you, for another eye opening pearl of wisdom, regarding Nourse and Burroughs especially. You Welshmen really are a different breed. Cheers.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
I have mentioned Burroughs' Kutnner fixation at least twice before, I think, certainly in my early video on how to read his trilogy, Thanks as ever!
@joebrooks4448
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for recognizing Alan E. Nourse. He wrote some great stuff, and by the 1960s, he was well known in the US Science Fiction world. Not prolific, but he has penetrating thoughts on many topics. A few short stories that come to mind: Brightside Crossing, Nightmare Brother, The Martyr (immortality is considered), and Psi High are just a few. He appeared frequently in Astounding and many other magazines in the 1950s. I recently picked up another SF novel of his: "The Invaders Are Coming." So many books to read!
@anthonyparkinson4517
7 ай бұрын
Blade Runner - 1982. The Citizen Kane of SF movies. Damn fine sequel too.
@TmRnBn
7 ай бұрын
When I (and a buddy) saw it on release, we knew it was a PKD adaptation. Probably got this info from Starlog or some such magazine at the time. Never got the association with Alan E. Nourse. Have to look that one up. Only have Scavengers in Space... Also, healthcare systems here in the US are bad. Really bad. No service required for day to day living should be cost-based for maximized profit. Bring the NHS here! Please!
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
I can't recall where I heard about it, but my mate Andy & I went to see it specifically because we were PKD fans too. But I won't forget seeing the mention of his death in the credits, what a shame!
@penitentialarts
7 ай бұрын
I read the Nourse book when I was 13, before the movie "Blade Runner" came out. I was a little confused at the time about why the movie had nothing to do with the book I read. :)
@andrewb.3076
7 ай бұрын
Interesting to see your video on where the Blade Runner / The Bladerunner title came from. I've been aware of it since a few years back and have owned and read the Alan E. Nourse novel as well, in fact I actually have the same paperback in my collection as the one you've shown here in this video. But it's great to see your knowledge on the additional bits of the Burroughs film script. I haven't read that one, maybe I should get to that some time as well... I have two other Nourse novels in my collection, the short "Gold in the Sky" and the hardback McKay edition of "Raiders from the Rings" that seems to be pretty common. I've yet to read those...
@paulcampbell6003
7 ай бұрын
For thirty years I have owned both the Burroughs and Nourse books. My copy of the Burroughs is the 1979 Blue Wind Press paperback edition with the white cover showing a drawing of a trainer/sneaker. My copy of _The Bladerunner_ is also the Ballentine edition from 1975. The price in pencil has been rubbed out, but you can still see the indentation: it cost me *£1.50* ! 😅 I read it many years ago and, yeah, it's a cracking read! 👍
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I love the cover of the original Blue Wind, great design!
@angusmckeogh659
7 ай бұрын
I worked in the NHS and now live in the States and work in a private practice. Both systems have their pros and cons, but with experience in both systems (and being a human being) I'd say healthcare needs to be socialized. I see way too many patients paying massive premiums with no coverage, not being able to afford doctor's visits, and/or unable to afford the medication they are prescribed when they finally manage to get into the GP. It's a ridiculously broken system over here.
@Vgallo
7 ай бұрын
If you have money private systems offer better quality of care, if your poor socialised health systems are better. So universal healthcare saves more lives, cuz most people aren’t rich
@joelstainer65
7 ай бұрын
Great little history lesson on this one. Thanks again!
@StrayGator
7 ай бұрын
I've always wondered why the SF Masterworks version of Pohl and Kornbluth's The Space Merchants has the floating advertising ship from Blade Runner that advertises the off world colony on the cover.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
...because the novel is about advertising and environmental concerns, plus Gollancz probably thought if they made it look like 'Blade Runner', they'd sell more. In a way this works, as the (M)ad men of the novel are cynical enough to advertise offworld colonies claiming they are paradise- of course, when you read PKD's 'Martian Time-Slip' and 'Three Stigmata', his Martian colonies are pretty...well, unpleasant.
@unstopitable
7 ай бұрын
Wow, to learn about PKD's death watching Blade Runner for the first time in theaters. A punch to the solar plexus. If I recall correct, he cried when he was able to screen a few bits and pieces before he passed. I was able to check out Burroughs's treatment a great many moons ago from a community college library, of all places, and remembered being entranced by it, not just the work itself, but it revealed to me (pre-internet) what seemed like an arcane tidbit of knowledge about how films actually came into being. I can't remember if this is in the treatment, but I have this image of junkies riding hang gliders through a desolate city. Thanks, Outlaw! I hope you're getting along all right.
@Spacejack-xx2yp
7 ай бұрын
I only found out like last year that THE BLADE RUNNER is science fiction. All the descriptions I'd read of it just talked about smuggling medical supplies, didn't mention the setting at all!
@BooklessPete
7 ай бұрын
I'm glad you discussed Burroughs' appreciation of SF and other genre books. It always saddened me that in the old Grove Press omnibus of The Soft Machine / Nova Express / Wild Boys there is an transcript of a taped interview of Burroughs by Ginsburg that has Henry Kuttner's name misspelled "Kottnor" or something. This is not a mistake Burroughs would have made I'm sure, and whoever oversaw the transcription and editing at Grove couldn't be bothered getting it right.
@athoszubiaur2144
7 ай бұрын
you, my friend, are a fount of knowledge! thanks, as always, for your insights
@joemountains1539
7 ай бұрын
Love the titular history lesson! Am also eager to hear what you think of Hampton Fancher.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
Not much. He didn't like the book, he said nothing in 'Blade Runner 2049' he didn't outline in the first film. I think the main reason the first film succeeds as much as it does is due to the intervention of the other writers.
@KiwiExpressCream
7 ай бұрын
What a cracking video, I really enjoyed this and learning about where the title of one of the greatest SF movies came from. I'd like to read Nourse's book too, it sounds great and remarkably prescient (unfortunately). Nice one Steve, Jason.
@ledatape
7 ай бұрын
Thank you again Stephen - another corking episode - I remember seeing Ridley Scott doing a Q&A at an sf convention in Brighton just before the film came out and they showed the opening I recall... where you there? I do look forward to your talk on Burroughs -his influence on the uk underground was crucial - keep on chooglin mate!
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
No, that was before I started going to Cons. Thank you too!
@carltaylor6452
6 ай бұрын
I picked up the recently published edition of Burroughs' Blade Runner: A Movie from Tangerine Press. I'd not read it before. I was lucky enough to get hold of the HB: a very nice edition.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
6 ай бұрын
Yes, it's a nice book, that.
@mario6279
6 ай бұрын
Gimp 😂 that’s funny when you described how it had to do with bondage. Great channel I subscribed. By any chance have you read Radix by AA Attanasio?
@outlawbookselleroriginal
6 ай бұрын
Of course! I read it back in the early 1980s when it was first issued in the UK. Love a bit of Attanasio, I've referred to him several times in videos here. Welcome aboard the channel!
@deeebeee1758
7 ай бұрын
Cool video - I watch'em all. In a contemporaneous interview, round about the summer of 1982 - I think it may have been Heavy Metal Magazine - Ridley Scott said his daughter suggested the title and he liked it. That could have been kayfabe. Could be one more peice of the puzzle. All the best to you, man. Stop finding ways for me to spend money, but don't stop what you're doing. Cheers.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
Well, Scott is well known for not reading the books that inspire his films because he feels it will interfere with his 'vision': typical film director schtick- without writers, directors would be blind,
@Mistersandyrobertson
7 ай бұрын
Very interesting stuff. I wouldn't call the Blade Runner metal DVD box stuff that clutters up your house as it has all the different versions including the work print. Though I take your point as I'm overwhelmed by "stuff" myself! I knew Bill Burroughs briefly and loaned him methadone while he was waiting for a doctor the home office had arranged on a visit to the UK. Brilliant man.
@new_memeplex
7 ай бұрын
Clever and fascinating video once again. KW Jeter did some Bladerunner sequel books, right? Have you tried to read those?
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
Yes, the first one. It was ok, but hackwork really, written for money, superior to what most would do, but nothing compared to his own work. I wouldn't waste any more time on them really.
@chocolatemonk
7 ай бұрын
cheers to house clutter my friend! I got Adder because of your video
@silex9837
7 ай бұрын
Great information. Thanks!
@sylvanyoung
7 ай бұрын
Health Care in T&T 🇹🇹 is free to the public . Its paid for by the government and tax payers . Thanks for the info . And adding to my TBR list . Which i call To Be Found list . Only in the second hand/ used book shops can i find those SF authors . And alas those shops are losing ground. Again i say Thank you . Till next time , ( the powers that be permiting) .
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
Great to hear from you Sylvan, it feels like ages! I'm sure it's not, just my addled memory (suffering from a dreadful cold at the moment!).
@candlefire8411
7 ай бұрын
Hi Steve, im off on holiday to france. Are there any good SF french books to read? Cheers mate
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
Yes, 'Planet of the Apes' is French and different to all the films- it's excellent. Should be your first choice!
@skeller61
7 ай бұрын
So, that answers where the title Blade Runner comes from, but not why it was tacked on an adaptation of the PKD book. Strange, if you ask me.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
As I said, Burroughs' screen treatment was floating around Hollywood at the time, the makers didn't like any of the proposed titles and gained permission to use it from Nourse & Burroughs. No other reason than they liked the sound of it. Arbitrary and typical of Hollywood thinking. Why did they use 'Replicant' instead of the perfectly good 'Android'? Screenwriters always think they know better than novelists, but are usually wrong....
@skeller61
7 ай бұрын
@@outlawbookselleroriginal I guess so. After all, it took three adaptations to get I Am Legend as the movie title. In this case, I think having a short, catchy title, followed by the full book title (like what Kubrick did with Dr. Strangelove) would have been a better way to go. Anyway, thanks for the SF history lesson!
@buffstraw2969
7 ай бұрын
As a long-time SF reader, it's mildly frustrating to me that Hollywood seems to mash up SF titles and stories into an unrecognizable mess. By contrast, when they adapt religious stories into films, they take great pains to be accurate to the Scriptures, consulting ministers, priests, rabbis, even the Pope. Hollywood has great respect for the Bible but none for science fiction. They casually butcher SF, and/or openly steal from it and take credit for ideas and tropes they didn't invent.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
Film makers have -90% of the time I'd say- made a mess of SF from the dawn of cinema. Tragic!
@DKBiedron
5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@outlawbookselleroriginal
5 ай бұрын
Many thanks! Very kind.
@theoneunder
7 ай бұрын
I read one of jeters bladerunner sequels he wrote after pkd died. I believe he wrote a small series.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
Yes, there are several of those. Not bad in their own way, but ultimately hackwork and not a patch on his personal ouevre.
@AlienBigCat23
7 ай бұрын
Typical. Just another typically brilliant nutshelling of diverse strands of SF knowledge. Cheers Steve 👍
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
Thanks mate.
@amyschmelzer6445
7 ай бұрын
As an American, if I hear gimp I think of someone with an injury or major illness that makes it hard for them to get around. It has taken on a derogatory connotation so it’s not something I would say towards a person with a disability today. I’ve never heard it used like you mentioned.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
As I said, it WAS used in that context and I made the contemporary derogatory usage clear. 'Gimp Suit' is common usage when referring to costumes worn in BDSM - type the phrase into 'exact' on google advanced search and you'll find such references instantly. I'm assuming the latter usage is what you mean by 'used like you mentioned'. The US and UK are divided by different usages of a common language.
@raleighsmalls4653
7 ай бұрын
David Peoples re-wrote the film and made it spin....And, and...Blimey ! He didn't really tell where the term came from. He came close, though. A blade runner was a guy who would circulate illegal medical blades surreptitiously between superstitious tribes in Africa that believed the blades we're evil magic and deemed dangerous to the prevailing healer monopolies.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
7 ай бұрын
Did you actually watch the video? Sounds like you may not have- I cite the source as the one credited in the film, the books written by William S Burroughs and Alan E Nourse.
@raleighsmalls4653
7 ай бұрын
Sorry, Kap'n...I just never heard you say what the origin of the actual word was only the mention of book titles which would be stating it; prob in the Burroughs title you mention. There's a fascinating book on Burroughs, the early days, in Texas trying to make it as a farmer with his wife; pre- william tell backyard party disaster that he's famous for. Photos of Bill looking well scrubbed, clean and young...
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