It's definitely Philly. We aren't the ones who are about to lose our franchise because of the lack of fan support. We come no matter what. We boo other teams and we boo our own players as well. We are the better hockey town.
@seanifer06
17 жыл бұрын
funny they have alot to say since they have crosby and malkin now took them a little bit to get some people that work somewhat good together
@BritIronRebel
15 жыл бұрын
Damien Cox of ESPN : [quote] "......after all, is this was a 101-point team in 2005-06, the first season after the lockout. The drop-off from there -- 55 points -- was actually greater than the improvement this season, 39 points. The Flyers ended up with a league-worst record because that was their intent; to gut the club if it meant repositioning it for the future."
@BritIronRebel
15 жыл бұрын
Those ESPN attendance records are based on NUMBER of tickets sold. With all sold-out games last season, Pittsburgh still ranked only 19th. But in PERCENTAGES the Pens outsold the Flyers. Comparing a 17,000 seat arena to a 19,000 arena is comparing apples to oranges. If you go to 2004, it shows Pittsburgh as last in NUMBERS, but if you do the percentages they are not last in attendance % figuring-in our smaller capacity.
@Crawford1987
17 жыл бұрын
thankyou, haha, you are a true hockey fan. Im glad your not one of those fans that goes around and bashes the flyers like alot of penguin and rangers fan do, just because the flyers had ONE bad season. This year's series between the pens and flyers should be very intense and much more competitive.
@Hiei2k7
17 жыл бұрын
I was only being sarcastic, lol. We'll have to see how the city reacts with the new arena deal, because after all, Mellon Arena has been a bit of a dim on Hockey there, weren't the greatest sightlines, small place, leaky roof, etc.
@BritIronRebel
15 жыл бұрын
Actually we DIDN'T have the worst attendance. And if attendance is an issue anyhow, then there are teams like New Jersey who you have a right to criticize. The ONLY reason anyone talked about relocating was to force the politicians to keep their promise to build the new arena after the Pirates and Steelers got theirs. Mario has already said publicly that he never had any intention of actually doing it.
@NJtuber88
8 жыл бұрын
As a Devils fan I hate both the Penguins and flyers, but I will say the Penguins have better fans who know the sport better.
@vinceniederman3235
8 жыл бұрын
Philly Fans are Way Better Then Pittsburgh Fans When Comes To Hockey and As a Flyers Fans I Know The Sport Of Hockey!
@Crawford1987
16 жыл бұрын
If the penguins were truly a mightier team that year they would have blown the flyers out in every game since their defense was awful because of still adapting to the new nhl. It's amazing how the penguins swept the flyers last year, yet havent won a game against them this year with the best young talent in the league and Petr Sykora. Although, the flyers have been able to shut down crosby/malkin,leaving the penguins empty since they arent getting legitimate support from the whole team.
@19shanedoan19
17 жыл бұрын
ty 4 agreeing
@mynameisbob3
14 жыл бұрын
@LetsgoPitt58 maybe if your city cared it would try harder to rebuild its team. any organization can tank for four years get four great draft picks and then get help from the league to win a champioship. but we actually care enough in philly to try and rebuild teams fast so we can actually enjoy them in the playoffs.
@BritIronRebel
15 жыл бұрын
Why is it that when I go to the Flyers website, I can order season tickets for '09-'10 season if they are so passionate? The Pens have a 2+ years waiting list and it takes a $200 deposit to hold your place. Just wondering????
@BritIronRebel
15 жыл бұрын
If the Great Depression hadn't forced the Pittsburgh Pirates hockey club to move to a larger market and change their name to the Quakers, then Philly wouldn't have even been exposed to the game of hockey. Pittsburgh hockey firsts include the first indoor artificial ice surface in the world & the first professional hockey players when Canada was still all amateur.
@flyersfan2588
17 жыл бұрын
Man i was really pullin for the red wings against the ducks. lol i dont know why.
@Crawford1987
16 жыл бұрын
yea...the flyers own the all-time record between the two clubs and have smashed the penguins alot before the 2006-2007 season. And even in that seasons, look at the last 3 games...they were all decided by 1 goal (one by 2 goals, and the other 2 going to a shootout) and the flyers were still beat up and using their ahl team against them.
@Crawford1987
16 жыл бұрын
yea man, thats so true..the thing is that penguins fans believe that just because of owning the flyers for one year, that they're gonna own them for the next decade like FittnessKicker stated. No way that's gonna happen with the flyers having improved so much in defense, offense and now having more reliable goaltending.
@KD05X
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@BritIronRebel
15 жыл бұрын
"the wachovia center holds about 4,000 more then mellon arena" Wachovia Center = 19,519 (hockey) Mellon Arena = 16,940 (hockey) Difference = 2,579
@hives9393
14 жыл бұрын
Pittsburgh is not a hockeytown, its a football town. Fair weather fans that came with Sidney Crosby. Philly gets the nod and i'm a Sabres fan.
@Chazwozel1
14 жыл бұрын
@frankie8420 relocation had NOTHING to do with fan attendance.
@ravenfour
17 жыл бұрын
that guy at 2:45 kicks ass GO FLYERS!!!
@kenglin13
15 жыл бұрын
the guy at 1:30 said the fans in pitt are always upbeat and have faith. Didn't the team almost fold because nobody went to games
@Irishmahn87
4 жыл бұрын
kenglin13 the franchise was I danger of relocating not folding, and although no Philly fan will ever admit it they’re glad the team stayed in Pittsburgh
@BritIronRebel
15 жыл бұрын
In 06-07, the Flyers deliberately TANKED their season:
@rdaws73
16 жыл бұрын
DETROIT IS HOCKEY TOWN We're not hockeytown because of our fanbase, We're not hockeytown because of our arena We're not hockeytown because of our superstars we're hockeytown because we're one of the most successful American hockey teams in NHL history. and in 11 years we've won 4 Stanley cups and are the closest to a dynasty the NHL is going to see for the time being.
@hives9393
14 жыл бұрын
@LetsgoPitt58 Championships are why you are a fan. Fair weather FTW! Philly proves they have better fans by showing up even though they haven't won.
@BuzzsawtheHedgehog
15 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, man. We'll always have the better fans, better team, and better spirit. Don't let any Cryer fans bug you. We NEVER, EVER get down whenever times are tough, and I LOVE that. GO PENS!!!! =D
@eyeasted
17 жыл бұрын
Pens fans are better because they stood behind their team when times were rough. they go nuts when their defenseman breaks up a 2 on 1, they appreciate hard work and cycling behind the net. i've been to a Flyers game and the only time the crowd cheered was when they scored. go to a Pens game and the crowd will be on their feet when they kill a 2 minute power play or win an important face off. philly is a football town, and the eagles suck too
@BritIronRebel
15 жыл бұрын
Philly hasn't won since 1975. Stats mean nothing when it comes to fan loyalty to the SPORT of hockey. The Eagles also have better stats over the years than the Steelers....but who would trade mere stats for 6 Super Bowl rings OR argue that Steeler fans are not loyal?
@shivakrishnarama
16 жыл бұрын
The Pittsburgh Penguins' have gotten a free ride to the cup finals just like Ottawa did last year. The Eastern Conference is such a joke, no goaltending, no defence and no substance. There's only one team (Chicago) in the entire WEST CONF that had a losing record vs EAST CONF. Penguins fans will now learn how REAL hockey is played out west. Detroit in 6! WEESSSIIIDDEEE!!!!
@mochopz
13 жыл бұрын
Philadelphia obv. like 5 years ago, pittsburgh almost moved cause no one showed up.
@BritIronRebel
15 жыл бұрын
Don't even try to convince anyone that Philly fans are the most passionate about their team. Montreal easily wins that debate and if you wanna talk about filling arenas when you suck, then look at Toronto who hasn't won since 1967 and still beats Philly in attendance every year.
@SteelersRock75
16 жыл бұрын
The better hockey town and sports town is definetly PITTSBURGH because of our history and the fans are EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@alexshudrums
8 жыл бұрын
Go pens! But Crosby's still a CRYBABY!!
@eyeasted
17 жыл бұрын
why didn't they win a stanley cup the last 12 years they were in the playoffs
@kmj.willemail
17 жыл бұрын
Yea, because lack of attendance/fan support is the reason the Pens would move.
@paullucci
16 жыл бұрын
I'll tell you this, arguing this shit is pointless. The rivalry will always live. No one will ever "win" the argument. Have a good season. Go Pens.
@aries7777
17 жыл бұрын
It has nothing to do with Hockey, but I never said it did, I'm just giving you an example of Philadelphia's hypocracy(sp?).
@RJ8812
17 жыл бұрын
they werent booing, they were saying "knuuuuuuu" when Knuble had the puck nice try
@SuperHenderson13
17 жыл бұрын
well gee did anyone really expect a philly fan to say they think pittsburgh is better or the other way around? i mean come on
@gannongolfer
15 жыл бұрын
Bottom line. Pittsburgh is a crap hole. The igloo is pathetic. The food sucks, the beer is pathetic, the Pirates are a minor league team playing in the majors, and oh, the Penguins wanted to leave Pittsburgh because the city is broke. What a shock. Philadlephia fans come out in bigger numbers, more consistently and for good reason. Flyers have the second highest winning percentage in the NHL franchise history second only to the Montreal Canadiens.
@eyeasted
17 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that 2nd girl is WAY off when she says Nittymaki is awesome...HAHA Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Fleury
@BuzzsawtheHedgehog
15 жыл бұрын
jrdkck is right. Pittsburgh is much more friendly city. I love their sports, well not the Pirates, since they're not that great like the Roberto Clemente days. Pittsburgh is the home and heart of Steeler Nation as well. In Philthy, it doesn't only have a higher crime rate, and being dangerous, but it is also the filthiest city out there. You can become one of my friends, jrdkck, GO PENS!!! I
@parkerbeard6170
6 ай бұрын
As a Rangers Fan I hate both teams. But I have to say Flyers fans are better. They're more passionate about their team. Win or Lose they still showed up to cheer their team on. Penguins fans were nowhere in site when they sucked for years. The second they won the Lottery for Sidney Crosby they decided to start showing up again. The fact that they say they're True fans is absurd!
@EdmacZ
17 жыл бұрын
And for all you Philly fans who brag "Oh, we had the franchise's worst team and we still lead in attendance, so we're better." Try having 3-4 consecutive putrid seasons in a row and let's see the "loving, diehard Philly fans" show up.
@completewords
17 жыл бұрын
Haha i love how all of you sit there and bash crosby.The kid just won a scoring title at 19 years old.You have to give the kid some respect.And in 16 games and 30 points against the flyers i can understand why you would be mad.
@Hiei2k7
16 жыл бұрын
It's funny that in a span of 5 hours you reply to yourself while people like me have a job and a life. I can refute them. Wings fans are too busy thinking about next year's cup and enjoying this one at the same time. Plus, how do you disprove the fact that the west is not the better conference? Not to mention, that if you were to put Dallas/Pittsburgh, Detroit/Philly, or Dallas/Philly, I'd think the west comes out of that one 3/4 times (the one being Philly/Dallas.)
@BritIronRebel
15 жыл бұрын
Really? I could have sworn you got bounced out by Pittsburgh in the Eastern Conference Championship and Detroit won that championship. I just saw Fedotenko on TV saying that when he played in Philly, no one recognized him walking down the street, but in Pittsburgh, he gets swamped with Pens fans. So I'm not too impressed with your "passion".
@19shanedoan19
16 жыл бұрын
smoketown by far more pit fans at away games than philly fans at away games
@SuperHenderson13
16 жыл бұрын
and a philly fan has a lot of room to talk about winning championships...
@BuzzsawtheHedgehog
15 жыл бұрын
Damn straight!! PITTSBURGH RULES!!!!
@eyeasted
17 жыл бұрын
thats 0-12, that's more than enough chances to win a cup, they just can't do it
@Hiei2k7
17 жыл бұрын
The Better Hockeytown (TM) is Detroit, Michigan. Flyers Fans: 1997. That is all. NEXT QUESTION! :)
@EdmacZ
17 жыл бұрын
I'd demand excellence too if my sports teams disappoint year in and year out. As for saying Pittsburgh fans don't support their team, millons of Pens fans were pulling for the Pens to stay despite them sucking. Winning on 2006 only helped the support. If we're such terrible fans, why did Gary Bettman want to keep them in Pittsburgh? Why is Pittsburgh still regarded as a strong Hockey Market? Are all Philly fans this stupid?
@flyersfan2588
17 жыл бұрын
First of all, the question was between Pilly and Pttsburgh. The better hockeytown is without a doubt Philly. Pittsburgh almost LOST their team 3 times!!!!! End of discussion.
@BritIronRebel
15 жыл бұрын
Dude....we've been playing hockey in Pittsburgh since the 1890s. Pittsburgh had an NHL team in 1925. The AHL Hornets won multiple Calder Cups (and one in 1966 then year they became the Penguins). Lack of ticket sales was NEVER the reason for any discussions about moving the team.
@BuzzsawtheHedgehog
15 жыл бұрын
Please. Flyer fans have NOTHING to cherish these days except their loses to Pittsburgh. GO PENS!!! Wanna be friends, dude?
@Chipoffurblock88
14 жыл бұрын
R u joking?? Flyers were in 27th place in the league not too long ago, and it was packed when i was there. Flyers fans r always loyal and arent bandwagaoneers like pittsburgh. The only time pittsburgh has ever cared for their team was when Lemeuix played and now, no other time. Now that is whats embarrassing sir...
@vinceniederman3235
6 жыл бұрын
Philadelphia is The Better Hockey City Cause Pittsburgh Has Bandwagon Penguins Fans While We Flyers Fans Have No Bandwagon Fans!
@Irishmahn87
4 жыл бұрын
Vince Niederman every team has bandwagon fans it’s inevitable, but some teams have more than others for sure
@woodyjp
17 жыл бұрын
Last time i went to philly, i had to step over a homeless mans shit, which he so rudely left in the middle of the walkway, so im gonna have to say Pittsburgh is way better
@xkilledcore
16 жыл бұрын
at 4:05, that philly fan deffinately just called her hockey team the Phillies. lmfao philly fans dont even know the names of their teams. they don't even give decent answeres either "its philly!" "we have forsberg" "our players are hot" "crosby sucks". i guess if i played for a philly team, i wouldnt have won a championship in 25 years either knowing that im being supported by a fanbase like you guys. go pens!
@SteelersRock75
15 жыл бұрын
THE CITY OF CHAMPIONS !! GO PENS
@paullucci
16 жыл бұрын
So, Pens fans = polite and knowledgeable? and Philly Fans = Drunk and bloated? This video seems a little partisan to me. That said, Go Pens.
@BritIronRebel
15 жыл бұрын
Philly was ranked THE fattest city and the town with the ugliest people. Pittsburgh is ranked America's #1 Most Livable City AND Rand McNalley says Pittsburgh has the #2 most beautiful skyline. Don't take my word for it...Googe it and see for yourself!
@havenoliduponmyhead
16 жыл бұрын
how about that kid: pittsburgh is the best in all sports. what? your baseball team is beat & you don't even have a b-ball team. pens, how about when you were dead last in the hockey world? hardly anyone went to games. i got a ticket the day of the game at student rush & sat 5 rows from the ice, and sid was on the team! at least when philly was dead last a few years back, people still came to the games & supported the team. you might have won some cups, but no one has better fans than the flyers
@BuzzsawtheHedgehog
15 жыл бұрын
'The Hell does that have to do with this video?
@pizzaparty62
16 жыл бұрын
you got that dead on
@luvmywings
16 жыл бұрын
The best HockeyTown? There is only ONE HOCKEYTOWN and that is DETROIT! GO REDWINGS! Ozzie! Ozzie! Ozzie!
@KD05X
12 жыл бұрын
Brotherly Love and Sisterly Infatuation.
@Irishmahn87
Жыл бұрын
😂
@hives9393
14 жыл бұрын
@Chazwozel1 For every Penguins fan you find 214758932238975 Steelers fans.
@pizzaparty62
16 жыл бұрын
i would say pittsburgh because there even in cups and they had lemieux but i award it to philly because pittsburgh fans are nothing but fairweathered. Except football
@mynameisbob3
14 жыл бұрын
@LetsgoPitt58 i forget did the steelers make the playoffs last year. no they didnt. the pirates are about to be sold to kansas at this rate. and the penguins are just a bunch of bandwagoners that got help from the league to win the cup.
@IcedEarth1792
14 жыл бұрын
LETS GO FLYERS!!!!!! :)
@RJ8812
17 жыл бұрын
Crosby, or even the Penguisn for that matter, wont even be in Pittsburgh for the next 10 years hope you like Kansas City!
@Hiei2k7
16 жыл бұрын
I think it's been proven that the West is better, since the RED WINGS won the STANLEY CUP. Can you drill a hole in that steel dome you call a cranium and put in a note that says the season's over and the Pens lost? The more different they are, the more they stay the same. Both Philly and Pitts have lost to Detroit in the finals, only 11 years apart :)
@baunceychillups
17 жыл бұрын
you know, there is only one hockeytown: Detroit City after Detroit used the name, loserteams like philly think they're allowed to use it....too sad
@Hiei2k7
16 жыл бұрын
Here's a point. REGULAR SEASON MEANS JACK SHIT COME PLAYOFF TIME. Refuted enough for you?
@SuperHenderson13
16 жыл бұрын
philly is the best? at what choking in the playoffs? losing? complaing about their own fricking team? if u mean that, then yea yr right
@vinceniederman3235
8 жыл бұрын
Philadelphia is The Better Hockey City Without Question As a Huge Flyers Fan I Hate Pittsburgh and Cindy Crosby So Much Go Flyers Penguins Suck P.S. If The Pens Were Out Of Pittsburgh The Pens Would Had Never Drafted Crosby In The First Place!
@wayfaerer320
15 жыл бұрын
Is this a joke? Philly is by far the greater hockey town. It's not even a contest. You're comparing fans of a city who stopped going to games when their team did shitty (Pitt) and fans who sell out games no matter how shitty their team is doing (Philly). Pittsburgh is a football town, not a hockey town. What does it say about the caliper of your fans when your team considers moving to another city because of poor attendance? Last time I checked, that never happened in Philly...
@justinvienneau
16 жыл бұрын
but crosby rock! :)
@mynameisbob3
14 жыл бұрын
@IslandersFan25 all i gotta say is offsides
@SixFeetUndr101
14 жыл бұрын
Phily is Pennsylvania's sewer in all aspects of life. Go Pens!
@cristowall
16 жыл бұрын
montreal is
@BuzzsawtheHedgehog
15 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Like I said to Ibuzz234, 1975 FOREVER!!!!
@eyeasted
17 жыл бұрын
philly is too big and slow for the new NHL, just deal with it, you're going to be in last place for a long time, once you get all those #1 overall picks you might be alright
@aries7777
17 жыл бұрын
Pittsburgh is a better hockey town, and not only because of the teams itself, but because I used to live in Philly and hated it. For christs sake you guys threw shit at Jeff Garcia until he started doing good, your town is so incredibly hypocritical!
@rdaws73
16 жыл бұрын
No, they all came once the got Cindy Crosby and Malkin. They only started coming to games in the past two years. Remember, they almost lost their team to KANSAS CITY!! Haha. Hcokeytown? Um No.
@SuperHenderson13
16 жыл бұрын
what was the point of this, go to a rangers vs islanders devils vs rangers devils vs islanders game and ask them... dont ask same from city
@darkheadshot
17 жыл бұрын
burgh > philly
@Krebstar87
15 жыл бұрын
Pittsburgh all the way
@BuzzsawtheHedgehog
15 жыл бұрын
Right on, Maxiball17!!! The Pens are the best. You don't know much about Pittsburgh, o you, Ibuzz234? Well guess what, like Maxiball says, Philly sucks!!!! Go Pens!!!!
@berrytwix
17 жыл бұрын
Pittsburgh > Philadelphia
@Egungon
14 жыл бұрын
you cant ask a chick about sports.... shes like crosby?
@Crawford1987
17 жыл бұрын
haha this is funny cause the ducks aren't on this list and they won the cup.
@wayfaerer320
15 жыл бұрын
NDirish2112, I don't give a shit how many championships more Pittsburgh has won than Philly - you're completely missing the entire point of this video...Who are the better fans. "everyone in da burgh has loved the pens since 1968" Really? Enlighten me, what constitutes "everybody in da burgh"? Apparently not enough to actually make games to keep the Pens in town. Enter Crosby, Malkin, and Fluery, and a winning streak - fan attendance sky rockets overnight. Fair weather fans...
@mooman925
16 жыл бұрын
Philly!
@Giggeli15
11 жыл бұрын
313
@crzyinlove
17 жыл бұрын
OMG The first guy talking in this vid is one of my friends Dan!! Hahaha what a loser!!
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