Pike: I know it's wrong to put my friends before you Everlight: What am I, a freaking cult leader?
@ShavedTomato
2 жыл бұрын
The Traveler: Did someone say cult?
@liamerolduffy7738
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShavedTomato still feel he should have been a villain, or a tragic villain and the arc could have ended in a bittersweet way.
@zacharyhawley1693
2 жыл бұрын
The funniest bit is that it's factually how gods are supposed to operate. Clerics are their hands in the mortal world. You have to really violate their sacred tenants for the god to reprimand you. Otherwise they are content watch your adventures and spread their name.
@ricardoweber5744
2 жыл бұрын
Everlight "woah woah woah.... Look I may be a god but I'm not a narcissist"
@liamerolduffy7738
2 жыл бұрын
@@ricardoweber5744 “what kind of god do you think I am? An Abrahamic or dragon ball super god?”
@faelyn42
Жыл бұрын
Pike: I'm so sorry for drinking and fighting and cursing Sarenrae: Do I look like the goddess of peace and sobriety to you?
@quincyconnors9391
Жыл бұрын
Well, you don't NOT look the part.
@jahrusalem3658
Жыл бұрын
I like how Everlight wasn't pissed about Pike being her violent, vulgar but still compassionate and faithful self. She was just making it clear that Pike almost hit "I just want your powers" territory.
@BordrKing
Жыл бұрын
More than that, the everlight wasn't really angry at all. Pike was so ashamed of her own behavior because she thought it made her a bad holy person that she accidentally shut the everlight out. This was a case of imposter syndrome. The everlight basically said "i don't care how you choose to be a priest of my order, but you DO need to choose." Without shame and without regret.
@jahrusalem3658
Жыл бұрын
@@BordrKing Exactly, love this fucking show.
@nikkimiddlekillsday5161
Жыл бұрын
We all have faults, but it's not like she's a piece of shit that's sleeping around or killing innocent people. She lets loose like a normal person in a stressful job
@endgame6782
9 ай бұрын
@@BordrKing acc she said we don't choose but I get your overall point.
@TheDiazDarkness
2 жыл бұрын
Player: *cannot show up to the next session* This show: Yep, clever character devolepment scene incoming.
@milesroy9564
2 жыл бұрын
Shout out to this show’s god being so accepting
@benjaminbierley2074
2 жыл бұрын
Seriously, some of the DnD, Forgotten Realms gods "as written" actually come across as not so great...my personal beef was with them having a literal wall of souls they send people who don't choose a god when they die, not sure if current edition still has it, but I know one of the games addressed it with a character recognizing how heinous such a thing is.
@TRFaolan
2 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminbierley2074 The Neverwinter Nights 2 DLC
@Kal8Eth
2 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminbierley2074 It's the Neverwinter Nights 2 expansion, Mask of the Betrayer, which is far superior in terms of story and gameplay to the original game
@WardNightstone
2 жыл бұрын
easy to be more open minded as a diety when you are one of many gods all with differign viewpoints who are still recoverign from a war with your fellow gods
@Meshifuari
2 жыл бұрын
Check out Bahamut
@mastermattvd
Жыл бұрын
It’s missing my favorite line “ any path can be righteous if you walk that path with truth”
@Aceshot-uu7yx
10 ай бұрын
What about the murder hobo nazi?
@andresplatas
5 ай бұрын
Nazis were filled with self deception and self delusion. They weren’t fighting with truth.
@ogom-io3rb
4 ай бұрын
@@Aceshot-uu7yx Truth in this case refers to following the commandments of the everlight. So the everlight is saying is that as long as Pike follows the commandments of the everlight she can do whatever she wants. Here’s the commandments in case your wondering: Inspire others to unite in fellowship. Aid those who are without guide. Heal those who are without hope. Those who are beyond redemption, who revel in slaughter and remorseless evil, must be dispatched with swift justice. The commandments might be different in the show but I doubt that.
@overthinker9616
2 жыл бұрын
Being a holy person doesn’t always mean being a saint. We can find enjoyment in foul languages as it gives more clearance on what we really feel We can still enjoy fighting or rough beating, as long as we don’t cross the line between a thrill and an obsession We can still enjoy being drunk or just going nuts in order to have some fun in life That’s part of life, if we didn’t have those things, the world would be boring, we would just be happy little husks with nothing to do in life. You can engage in chaotic activities while still being a good/decent person. Sorry for that monologue but this scene just gives such a good message!
@JayJayM57
2 жыл бұрын
You pretty much summarize Jesus message. Too bad the larger majority of Christians forgotten about it.
@kidclefspeare
2 жыл бұрын
As a Christian, thank you for putting this into words. The negative stereotypes of faith often alienate others and scenes like this show you don't have to be perfect because no one on Earth is. Perfection isn't a goal to achieve but a horizon to strive toward. There's nothing wrong with having a little fun as long as you know when to pump the brakes.
@boitata2617
2 жыл бұрын
Great message, I liked it in the show but felt like it was a bit "blury", your comment made it clearer. But still, I just I feel like "atrocious" isn't the right word here, maybe it's own my limited vocabulary, as to me "atrocity" and "cruelty" mean the same thing. I think a more fitting word, if you forgive the dnd reference, would be "chaotic activities".
@acemarvel1564
2 жыл бұрын
Thank for convincing me to play cleric or paladin Jokes aside happy to see everyone learning such wisdom
@JDog2656
2 жыл бұрын
@@kidclefspeare agreed. Although you should probably avoid cursing or getting drunk, it’s not the end of the world if you do. You certainly shouldn’t condemn others that do. Just try to be better every day and admit your faults.
@TamTroll
2 жыл бұрын
they did super well with the whole "this is a GOD!" feeling. i was legit tearing up from the sheer PRESENCE that the Everlight gave when she showed up.
@SootherousNoise
2 жыл бұрын
All this time we have to use our imagination, when Matt describes the scene, location, and event. But they brought Vox Machina absolute justice with the animation. From watching them play in the campaign to watching the series. I enjoy it both ways.
@tylamcgilverson3923
2 жыл бұрын
Sarenrae doesn't give a fuck about sex and drinking. She cares about keeping the flame of hope alive
@thermophile1695
2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, she's polyamorous herself, and she's no hypocrite about it.
@Nechrostriker4
2 жыл бұрын
@@thermophile1695 Yup. In Pathfinder Canon, she's dating Shelyn and Desna.
@sadlobster1
2 жыл бұрын
@@thermophile1695 Wait...Pike is Poly? Who else has she been with besides Scanlan
@thermophile1695
2 жыл бұрын
@@sadlobster1 Pike hasn't been mentioned in this conversation once. We're talking about Sarenae.
@Fellkun
Жыл бұрын
Yeah like a person can be a drunk and mind nylanguage here, a slut but still keep the flame of hope alive by help keeping people safe
@BordrKing
Жыл бұрын
I really like the direction they took this. I'm the game pike's crisis of faith came from Ashley's excitement at the chances she got to play with her friends again overwhelming her character and going overboard on stuff like torture and hyper violence but also Matt still relying on older school dm philosophy of how alignment and divine power worked. In the show, rather than having pike going overboard and being admonished by her deity like a naughty child, they made her crisis more of a case of imposter syndrome. She was always allowed to pursue her faith in her own way because the everlight is compassionate to all, not just the prim and proper. But her insecurity about being a "bad" holy woman made her sub consciously shut the everlight out. The only way to open the door? Accept herself and show HERSELF compassion.
@Jai137
2 жыл бұрын
It’s time for you to look inward and begin asking yourself the big question Who are you? And what do you want?
@davesobani9565
2 жыл бұрын
Kosh or Morden...
@themisspultone
2 жыл бұрын
@@davesobani9565 Why are you here? What do you have that is worth living for? ... Where are you going?
@shadowz8378
2 жыл бұрын
Iroh
@JnEricsonx
2 жыл бұрын
I want JMS's reboot of B5 to not get fucked up.
@stephenking5852
2 жыл бұрын
Rey Skywalker.
@GunnerM60
2 жыл бұрын
I believe Sarenrae didn't want Pike to stop being who she was. Pike could still enjoy fighting, drinking, & cursing, but NOT indulge to the level she did. It's a similar premise to me working as a nurse. In my career I am "to do no harm", but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed protect myself or others if harm comes to us.
@dylanfooler
2 жыл бұрын
"Do no harm, but take no shit."
@jahrusalem3658
Жыл бұрын
@@dylanfooler "I'm a healer, but-"
@charchadonto
11 ай бұрын
@@jahrusalem3658 sometimes ze hurting is more rewarding then ze healing
@teytreet7358
2 жыл бұрын
This was so well written.
@elijahtiemens5532
2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@Husky92223
2 жыл бұрын
@@elijahtiemens5532 when they played the session irl she couldn't be there cause she had to work on blindspot and she was gone, in the show they implemented it in a way that fits the character
@sadlobster1
2 жыл бұрын
So, let me see if I have a strong enough understanding of this. The Everlight is saying you can indulge in stuff like drinking, cursing, sex and "devilish" practices like playing D&D AND still be a good person (in terms of what your faith considers good?)
@NebulaDark
2 жыл бұрын
Well....yeah. otherwise no-one who is Christian would enter heaven at all XD. And before you say I will. You have sinned. We all have, its part of our very nature ;) Ps my biggest sin is jealousy and I just learn to cope with it^^;
@sadlobster1
2 жыл бұрын
@@NebulaDark But what do you say about all the so-called "holy people" who call BS to the Everlight's quote of "any path can be a holy one, so long as they walk it with truth"
@NebulaDark
2 жыл бұрын
@@sadlobster1 hmm my honest opinion. I think they are in denial as I think thats a good moral. Before we continue onwards I should note 2 things 1 I was raised half Christian sorta I went to Christian schools so I do know a bit about it. 2...I never saw this anime before so these are sadly my own rakes from this scene and your quote alone^^; (yay youtube recc lol)
@sadlobster1
2 жыл бұрын
@@NebulaDark The main reason some people might question the moral might be due to where the phrase says "ANY path can be a holy one." In which case, they might start bringing up stuff like child predators, murderers and all that. I, meanwhile look at it the same way Pike did here...that if you fight for a noble reason or for those in need, THAT can be a holy path
@dylanfooler
2 жыл бұрын
You do know The Everlight isnt the god of the Bible right? She's one of many in the world of Exandria, and God's can be any kind of alignment. Drinking, partying and cussing arent evil or even close to devilish, especially in DnD
@SilverScribe85
10 ай бұрын
"Any path can be a holy one. So long as one walks it with truth" This is a phrase many modern Christians would disagree with
@Aceshot-uu7yx
10 ай бұрын
Is the guy who kills people out of racial superiority walking a holy path is he sincerely believes it? Cause that phrase would imply he is because walking with truth is truly following it, not any other criteria. I think modern humanity would disagree with thst assessment.
@iagoluiz8467
Жыл бұрын
So the Everlight accepts her worshippers' culture and habits, and does not punish them for it. Nice. Why couldn't Rapu be more like her?
@ProteusChris
Жыл бұрын
Yup that would seem to be the case
@iagoluiz8467
Жыл бұрын
@@ProteusChris And you know who this Rapu I speak of is, don't you?
@ProteusChris
Жыл бұрын
@@iagoluiz8467 can't say that I do.
@malfolin
Жыл бұрын
"I am Pike Trickfoot of the Vox Machina, and we f*ck shit up"
@AnilSaulnier
Жыл бұрын
Virtue isn't about the ways we fall short of standards. It's about the ways the overcome adversity.
@EmptyMan000
9 ай бұрын
There will always be adversity. That's life and there's no overcoming it, only pushing through its hurdles. Do your best and if that's not enough, try to be better, that's all virtue is about.
@TriXJester
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else hyped to watch the Everlight punch a dragon out of the sky?
@magiv4205
Жыл бұрын
I will actually scream when that happens!
@grom4games
2 жыл бұрын
No one is perfect but society is aiming for a perfect world, making it more complicated than it needs to be...
@olegkeatzin
Жыл бұрын
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
@andrewpenny4676
2 жыл бұрын
Well like Danny phantom fought his evil self we stand in our own way.
@justaghostinthesea
Жыл бұрын
This gets me really hyped up for conversations with Uk'otoa and the Wild Mother in the Mighty Nein series.
@tysondennis1016
7 ай бұрын
The Everlight didn’t want Pike to be this sober, perfect pacifist. She wanted her to be honest with herself, and not just use her for her power. I’m sure that this is some sort of commentary on real world religion.
@yaboigamerdouji7573
2 жыл бұрын
Now she’s an astral badass. Or…is her real body somewhere else for now? I’m still not sure. Either way, Pike gets to level up
@ajerqureshi6411
Жыл бұрын
By truly accpeting her faith and who she is as a person, Pike basically leveled up her holy magic...including the ability to astral project herself from the temple to her friends in Whitestone. Her body is still back at the temple and will be reclaimed when the astral projection ends.
@Eszra
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Monstah!
@quinncykaluzniak5429
6 күн бұрын
the light doesn't decide what it shines on, but that whatever it does shall be itself
@thant0s
2 жыл бұрын
Cool scene. Super distracted by Pickle's astral form.
@warrirornunluv801
2 жыл бұрын
Who~ are you? Who who who who Who~ are you? Who who who who I really wanna know~
@josephwolfe9681
2 жыл бұрын
CSI nice
@farmerned6
2 жыл бұрын
I put no stock in religion. By the word religion I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of God. Holiness is in right action and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves , and goodness. What God desires is here [points to head] And here [points to heart] and what you decide to do every day, you will be a good man - or not.
@brothersgt.grauwolff6716
2 жыл бұрын
the Hospitalier from Kingdom of Heaven best speech ever
@peterrosqvist2480
Жыл бұрын
I see you are a man of culture as well
@ShynLamo
2 жыл бұрын
Coming from being recommended. Never seen this show before would someone care to point me in the right direction
@dkops3241
2 жыл бұрын
It's called "The Legend of Vox Machina" and you can watch it on Amazon Prime.
@arktisch36
Жыл бұрын
Damn, that's some Kierkgaard reference here.
@ghostblade5954
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this scene spoke to me as a Christian & a Critter. This scene in the show has so much Christian influence & I'm so happy to see it represented faithfully in something that wasn't even made by/for Christians
@juritudi57yearsago59
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think this scene represented being a Christian at all, maybe a lukewarm one but not a true Christian. The diety believes u can choose your own path and not the dietys way. The diety is not even close to being analogous the God.
@sarahfarr7400
2 жыл бұрын
During the Soltice: *God: Everlight, my dear! How are you this fine soltice?" Everlight: I am doing wonderful, my friend! I managed to help a lost soul realize that she can still keep her faith in me AND be as violent and lucrative as she wants to be (barring that she doesn't go too far). God: Ugh, isn't it the worst when those who "say" they serve us just do the worst possible things to other people because they "are offending us with their foul behavior and bad language." I mean, WHO DO THESE PEOPLE THINK WE ARE!! TYRANTS in the Heavens waiting to bring down righteous judgement upon them. I mean, the Revelations haven't happened yet but . . ." Everlight: My Friend by the time the Revelations start in your world, the humans on it will most likely be dead because of their own waste and short-tempers.* And they keep talking until the end of the solstice. NOTE: Don't get me wrong! I still believe in God and I know the Everlight is a fictional goddess, but this is how I would like to imagine their conversation would go down. Also, I apologize for down-playing the Book of Revelations.
@ladyofbugs
Жыл бұрын
Goosebumps everytime
@yesikanarvaez5027
Жыл бұрын
That is truth acceptance
@martinhill9561
2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile at high guardian spice…..
@Revolvers-and-Roses
2 жыл бұрын
The show that must not be named
@WillRennar
10 ай бұрын
"So I ask a final time: Who. Are. You? Are you one of the holy warriors of the Everlight, who protects the innocent and heals the sick and wounded? Or are you one of the depraved, violent drunkards of Vox Machina?" "... ... ..." [smirks] _"Yes."_
@sniclops15
Жыл бұрын
KZitem: *Yep, this is Infinity Train*
@robertjackson3552
2 жыл бұрын
she is Vox Machaina
@alexs5814
2 жыл бұрын
You had one job!!
@keiroty7187
Жыл бұрын
Shout out to you god
@cinnabarsorcerer8970
2 жыл бұрын
A god that forces you to change who you really are, is not a god
@ericfalcon6615
2 жыл бұрын
(I don't wanna start a fight but just needed to clear up) I don't think the Everlight is forcing pike to choose. She just need to know what path she would go down. Either she stayed with the temple to channel her Devine magic better then before but leave her friends, or go with your friends but channeling my magic is a little difficult. I know it sounds cruel, but when you're a being of light and purity you have to have people who can spread that message. And pike was getting a little to close from stepping into "I just wanna use your magic" territory.
@cinnabarsorcerer8970
2 жыл бұрын
@@ericfalcon6615 when did i say Everlight was forxing Pike? I said that in general
@ericfalcon6615
2 жыл бұрын
@@cinnabarsorcerer8970 oh my apologies
@Jalgorn
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, wait, wait.. A civilized conversation in the comment section? Are these the end times?
@ntlespino
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jalgorn pretty much yeah
@olgerd19
Жыл бұрын
I like this, but....my dreams and power and duty and service to the country, this all no end . And I..give to the others something, but i have to death to exploitation and deception .
@efaristi9737
2 жыл бұрын
is Everlight really ok with peoples that savagely cut off a personn hand for no real reasons?
@WarlordM
2 жыл бұрын
Seems so
@amandadane868
2 жыл бұрын
That guy was the one that picked the fight, not Vox Machina.
@efaristi9737
2 жыл бұрын
@@amandadane868 the fight started after Gorg cut off his hand. He was a jerk but didn't physically hurt anyone, Vax could have just stayed in his table instead of going to provoke them.
@Gabe600
2 жыл бұрын
You know D&D gods aren't like the Christian god, right? there are true neutral gods that don't give a shit about it and chaotic evil gods that actively encourage it
@efaristi9737
2 жыл бұрын
@@Gabe600 yes, i do know, thank you. Except Sarenrae is neither true neutral or evil. A goddess of attonement and compassion is forced to be good.
@majidoujaa5592
2 жыл бұрын
I am the shadow. The true self
@bonkibonk2568
2 жыл бұрын
Shut up, you’re not me!
@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062
2 жыл бұрын
Yes KZitem, this is from avatar
@attackhelicoptercat
Жыл бұрын
intense
@peterrosqvist2480
Жыл бұрын
I don’t like the idea that Everlight approves or accepts depravity and violence. There are still standards and judgments, not everything is permissible, otherwise there is no morality. I think there’s complexity to it although, I think there are exceptions to the rule. Some religions don’t allow alcohol to be consumed, but some people can drink responsibly and without the problems the religion is trying to avoid. The danger with that idea is that you could think that you’re always wise enough to be the exception to the rule.
@juritudi57yearsago59
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I mean this is fantasy, but people are really being blinded and thinking that holiness or just believing in your friends is way to go, because it’s not. It’s a slippery slope with no actual faith to God.
@lagoonman427
11 ай бұрын
@@juritudi57yearsago59 elaborate pls
@jaybee4288
10 ай бұрын
I think what they’re saying is true religion, at least Christian and Islam, isn’t this way. There’s some comments here to suggest that this is a good representation of religion, or it’s reminiscent of Christianity and real world religion, but it’s not. Our religions have strict codes that people these days are adapting and interpreting to allow themselves to follow it while living however they want like Pike, but holy texts are generally very clear about what you can and can’t do under the confines of that religion. While the Christian God is forgiving forgiveness requires repentance and atonement, this sorta thing. If Christianity turns out to be real for example, a lot of self professed christians going to hell.
@samuelspurlock727
2 жыл бұрын
what ep is this?
@tomsawyerpiper9412
2 жыл бұрын
TL;DR: As a paladin, just be ok with the terrible things you do in your free time that very specifically violate your oath and everything will be fine.
@animeotaku307
2 жыл бұрын
She’s a cleric, not a paladin
@blaze4111
2 жыл бұрын
as someone mentioned already, she is a cleric. unlike paladin clerics don't gain their power via oath but via devotion and following the teaching and guidance of their god, which pike does. pike is all about helping her friends and vanquishing evil, drinking and sex is not against that.
@Dragon_Lair
2 жыл бұрын
Also, the Everlight is a goddess of light and truth. She is just as quick to smite others as she is to heal them. In-lore, the gods were betrayed by other gods and there was a great cosmic war and many of the gods and goddesses suffered grievous injuries. The Knowing Mistress being one such goddess who is really badly injured, so those like the Dawn Father go out of their way to protect the goddess of knowledge. Since the gods and goddesses were so injured in that war they can be a lot more flexible in what they allow their worshipers to do because they need as many worshipers as they can to regain their powers and to recover. It has been centuries and the Knowing Mistress still hasn't recovered from her injuries and can do very little compared to the other gods because she has to take as much prayers and faith her worshipers offer her as she can to focus on healing herself. The Everlight has no problem with Pike being rough and tumble so long as she remains kind to others and is honest, with others and with herself, being a goddess of light and truth.
@elbruces
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on what your oath says and doesn't say.
@lb_the_pleb7498
Жыл бұрын
I’m jeff
@thenightqueen0
2 жыл бұрын
Everlight, 100% better than the abrahamic god. Abrahamic god: SERVE ME OR SUFFER FOR EVER!!! Everlight: Only be true to yourself. For I accept and love you no matter what path you walk.
@TriXJester
2 жыл бұрын
Its surprisingly a very Quaker stance, I was pleasantly surprised. Especially since we tell people to "Walk in the light, friend." a lot.
@Aceshot-uu7yx
10 ай бұрын
The Abraham's God quite literally has the opposite approach by pointing out your inequities and showing why you should be punished if you don't turn away. Everlight let's pike get away with everything, in the original campaign pike was being a murder hobo and got punished for it because she was not showing the mercy and compassion everlight called people to do to all, you know, morals. Serving God is following the righteous path, i.e. not a murder hobo flying by every whim. It's not a "clean my temple or I send you to hell" it's a "stop drinking so much because your killing yourself and hurting those around you with you actions, if you don't stop then you will walk right into more and more suffering because I can't let you keep doing this" serving. Plus, everlight's own words of following your own path only truly applies to pike in this instance because pike still stopped that crap after this and became more merciful. If it was truly setting her back on the right path, rather than a "do what you want I don't care because I can't be bothered to show you that what your doing is just causing more suffering for people, i.e. murdering people out of cold blood when the fight was over and getting black out drunk".
@QUEENVIONNA
2 жыл бұрын
I always disliked the thought of limitations of what you can and can't do to appease a god or you will be thrown in hell for eternity this is saying all you gotta do is have fate and live the life you want to
@nonusbusinissus5632
2 жыл бұрын
Nice sentiment, but thats not how faith works. Unless you worship your own ego.
@shadowkat678
2 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. You're definition of faith fits a very narrow box. That or you very deeply misunderstood this scene.
@nonusbusinissus5632
2 жыл бұрын
@@shadowkat678 That was the point. It IS a very narrow box by design cause it works in moral absolutes. When you find it okay to just s--- in the middle of it with some violence, some this and that, then still be absolutely okay with it, then your faith is absolutely not revolving around and moral or ethical absolute, which begs the question what else it could be. And on that note this scene presented fun and friends. Yeah no... its a nice scene, there is a very valid idea behind it in regards of holding yourself back via mental restraints, but this is as close to a monument of self worship and being a narcissistic little sh-it as it gets. "Im a priest of light and healing and i do m-rder and violence for the f of it coz its fun" Right.
@shadowkat678
2 жыл бұрын
@@nonusbusinissus5632 Tell me you've never studied or considered religion outside of cultural Christianity without telling me you've never studied or considered religion outside cultural Christianity. Please, tell me how other faiths all also work in moral absolutes. The Greek pantheon? Norse? Egyptian? This absolute moral form of faith is a very recent thing. Damn, even Judaism which Christianity sprung from has a much more varied interpretation of faith, and they're KNOWN for arguing about it. One of their most influential figures got to be that way from actively arguing with God. Jacob was called Israel for that very reason, which literally translates to wrestling with god. And that's just me listing examples I know you'd likely recognize. You can't assign YOUR view of faith to everyone. You're going to be wrong every time. And that was Pike's core problem blocking her, right at the center of things. But for this specific, also not Christian instance, I'm going to break down exactly what's going on with the Everlight. The Everlight is a deity of truth and redemption. Not of passivism, or of peace. As long as Pike's path puts more good in the world and drives out those who oppose her ideals like the Briarwoods, she doesn't care how Pike practices in her life, and Pike setting up false standards for herself is much more offensive to this type of goddess than any amount of swearing or violence. Now if it was Percy she probably wouldn't be happy, what with blowing an innocent kid's hand off and something like that impacted Pike in the original campaign with going too deep in causing pain to someone she didn't need to. But that hasn't happened here with Pike yet, and Pike's friends are not her followers so she doesn't step in for them. She's only concerned about Pike. And if Pike can continue spreading her tenets while being with her friends, that's all the Everlight cares about. Not to mention, d&d pantheons operate off the idea of gaining strength by the number of worshipers they have. That's another thing we see occasionally in a few pagan faiths in our history. Pike makes the Everlight stronger just as the Everlight makes Pike stronger, and that mutual relationship furthers both of their goals of striking against the bigger evils of the world. The Everlight is not going to be picky overall. This isn't a god of absolutist standards. Not even in truth, necessary. While some things are just that clear cut yes or no, there can be many faces of truth in other instances to different people with different life experiences. As long as Pike isn't creating more darkness than light, and as long as she truly still believes in the just cause her goddess represents, than it's up to her how she pursues her path as a cleric. As long as she's not lying to herself in the process. So no. Faith is not that simple or one dimensional, and I'd heavily encourage learning from and about people outside your specific cultural view of faith and religion.
@shadowkat678
2 жыл бұрын
@@nonusbusinissus5632 Her self doubt and blocking herself from the Everlight also is tied to aspects of her backstory we'll likely see later here, which the Everlight would definitely know about. She knows Pike's current view of her faith and distancing herself from the Everlight due to self-imposed guilt is not only dishonest, but self destructive in the long run. She needs to decide what she truly values, instead of having the internal war between her own truth in her faith and that of other's expectations. Also, there's absolutely nothing wrong with valuing yourself and accepting your own choices as long as it's not causing a ton of undue harm in the process.
@MisterRandom2
Жыл бұрын
@@nonusbusinissus5632 These are word-for-word the commandments of the Everlight: * Lead with mercy, patience, and compassion. Inspire others to unite in fellowship. * Aid those who are without guidance. Heal those who are without hope. * Those who are beyond redemption, who revel in slaughter and remorseless evil, must be dispatched with swift justice. Nothing Pike has done up to this point has violated the spirit of those commandments.
@8elias8
2 жыл бұрын
Wow its like the true form of the lgbtqrblmequity religion.
@cattro9675
2 жыл бұрын
That’s cringe
@fangirl3086
2 жыл бұрын
Touch grass dude. You seem like you haven't been outside of your mom's basement in a while.
@ntlespino
2 жыл бұрын
You sound like you don't like that. Why?
@thechosenone9361
2 жыл бұрын
??? What would indicate that? The Everlight is a canonical goddess in the DnD universe. Also what the hell is a LGBTQ+/ BLM/Equality religion. They are separate and individual movements not religions. Your whole comment is a mess. Have you considered touching grass?
@Spherrum
2 жыл бұрын
So, like embarrassing yourself on the internet, huh.
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