I would not call your Pilum as light model though.Those really light models looked differently.This is what is considered a heavy form of Pilum and it was occassionally made even hevier through added weight balls.It was not always just one ball as far as 3 weight balls on a single Pilum are safely attested and one relief perhaps shows even 4!Also-there is very littl evidence that heavy Pila with added weight balls were ever a normal form of Pilum among ordinary legionaries.99 percent of all depictions of it is showing it with Praetorian soldiers and other units serving in the city of Rome.There are only few reliefs which perhaps shows Pilum with added weight ball with standard Legionary soldiers.
@APinchOfHistory
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! There's always more to learn for me!
@jonc2914
Жыл бұрын
False. There is NO archeological evidence the ball weighted pilums ever existed outside of only one... yes, 1 sculpture...
@paprskomet
Жыл бұрын
@@jonc2914 falshood is only on your side and so is also ignorance about this subject if you only know just one "sculpture" (relief in fact)which shows it. I'm perfectly sure which one you have on mind-the only one guys like you with only superficial knowledge are aware of why they are absolutely ignorant of others they never seen not because they don't exist but because you know basically nothing about it, never did any actual research of it and from that reason never seen any others. .
@jonc2914
Жыл бұрын
@@paprskomet where is the evidence smart guy? None have ever been found.
@paprskomet
Жыл бұрын
@@jonc2914 do you even realise how stupid you sound saying just one relief exist while you only say so because you personally are ignorant of any other? That you don't know something and that your knowledge is very limited is not quite the same thing as something not existing just because you don't know it.
@BeowulfandCoffee
2 жыл бұрын
Nice format. Look forward to more.
@APinchOfHistory
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@charleskelly1887
2 жыл бұрын
What a devastating weapon. Glad you cleared up the part about the shaft bending after penetration. These were not made for a single use. No reason not to use them again after the battle. If the owner of the shield survived the initial strike, the point on the butt end of the shaft would dig into the ground after the shield was penetrated. This prevented advance and created a row of anchored spikes pointed upward through discarded shields, impeding those behind. I suspect that the pila would be thrown from the front row of the formation for the most range. The soldiers with the best throwing arms would be there. Fresh pila would be passed up from behind.
@cannonfodder90
2 жыл бұрын
I love it! I also really dig the fact that you have a real life example of the object you talk about. Since youtube is such a visual medium, it really ads to the whole production value. Once again, like I said on other videos, I can really see the work you have put into this. It's always good to see someone have a passion and interest in history.
@APinchOfHistory
2 жыл бұрын
When I'm taking about an object I always try to get one, so that I can better understand and show what we're talking about. It's amazing to hear your feedback! I think this is what actually motivates us, creators. Thank you!
@Dlokey4315
2 жыл бұрын
Great channel you have here and it always great to learn more nolage of anything that interest a person and it might even save your life one day. ✌️😎
@APinchOfHistory
2 жыл бұрын
Delighted to hear! Thanks a lot!
@luckystriker7489
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I subscribed. Please don't use a second camera from the side, because it appears as if you're talking to someone else. If you don't look directly at your audience, your audience will lose interest and leave.
@APinchOfHistory
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@KhoiThai
2 жыл бұрын
I saw a test between a dory and an aspis recently, and it shocked me how easy it was to punch through the face of a shield with the lightest if spear jabs. The real problem however is pulling the spear out. With the first thurst, the multiple layers of laminated wood was gripping at the spear head to tightly that it would have been impossible to get the spear out in the middle of a fight. Javelins, Pila included, would certainly have made such an impact with enough energy behind the throw, and be a pain to get out. I ceetainly agree that Pila don't need to bend to be stuck in the shield. But that brings up a question, why was the Pilum designed like that?
@APinchOfHistory
2 жыл бұрын
As I pointed out, the shaft is long enough to wound a person through the shield. That's the main reason behind the long shaft, I believe.
@KhoiThai
2 жыл бұрын
@@APinchOfHistory definitely long enough, and I believe the smaller diameter of the shaft also makes it easier for a pilum to penetrate a shield. Only somewhat easier however, because I do believe it is quite difficult to throw a pilum with that much power from the middle and back ranks of a formation.
@APinchOfHistory
2 жыл бұрын
Pilum was thrown at a relatively short range, 20 - 30 metres being the effective range for the heavier pila. The lighter ones had a longer range but less impact. The Romans also used a leather strap called "amentum" to stabilise and strengthen the throw. So, considering that, I think it wasn't that rare to penetrate a person through a shield on the battlefield. :)
@KhoiThai
2 жыл бұрын
@@APinchOfHistory Considering the weight of a pila it surely could do some serious damage, do you happen to know if it was perhaps heavier than other contemporary types?
@APinchOfHistory
2 жыл бұрын
@@KhoiThai not sure about that also it's hard to say because different pila had different weights, it was pointed to me that my pilum is somewhat heavy as for the lighter pila so most pila would probably be similar to mine or even lighter actually. The weight is about 1,5 kg.
@RevanTrajan
2 жыл бұрын
Where do you get the evidence that pila could penetrate mail armour? This is pure speculation.
@APinchOfHistory
2 жыл бұрын
Good point. I based this statement mostly on the test Matt Easton from Scholagladiatoria made here on KZitem, take a look: kzitem.info/news/bejne/y6hvk6mKbmqLY20
@getuliomuramoto8737
2 жыл бұрын
Valeu 👍 obrigado. Boa explicação da história do pilum parabéns. De fato o pilum é confundido com a lança. Mas cada uma dessas armas tem a sua função. A lança me parece ser de uso contínuo e constante do soldado romano, como o Gládio ou seu escudo. O pilum tem a função de ser lançado coletivamente pelos legionários numa batalha para conter um ataque do inimigo. É uma arma de arremesso como o dardo olímpico. Não é uma arma retornável, a não ser no final da batalha, onde seria recolhido para reúso após sua reforma. Sua ponta quadrada é altamente perfurante de malhas de aço e escudos e armaduras dos inimigos da época. Caso perfure objeto duro como escudo no calor da luta e do ataque inimigo, sua retirada pode ser inviável e o guerreiro praticamente abandonaria o seu escudo. É lógico que não se pode analisar a arma sozinha, pois ela fazia parte de um conjunto de medidas preparatórias para um combate entre dois exércitos no campo de batalha. Os romanos somente faziam o engajamento tendo supremacia estratégica ou das armas. Portanto, antes de entrar em choque corpo a corpo, os romanos lançavam sobre o inimigo todas as armas de arremesso de longo alcance disponível em seu arsenal, catapultas, balistas, onagros, Scorpions e flechas e a curto alcance lançavam chuva de pilum sobre a frente dos guerreiros mais corajosos do inimigo, dizimando instantâneamente boa parte desses combatentes. E quando os exércitos se chocavam no corpo a corpo, a disciplina militar romana fazia a diferença, com os legionários enfileirados, e o primeiro da fila combatia certo tempo e ao apito do centurião, o soldado seguinte assumia o combate, assim sucessivamente e aquele primeiro legionário ia para o fim da fila, como se fosse um carrocel, sempre com um soldado novo e descansado no combate e isso valia para todas as fileiras da centúria, formada por oito a dez contubernios, que continha de oito a dez soldados, ou seja uma fileira dos legionários.
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