I liked when jimmy showed us the difference between pitching from a windup and from a stretch!
@macblastoff7700
11 ай бұрын
All kinds of guys would post this at half the length and say "Look at this guy, he fell down in front of XX,XXX fans." Not Jomboy. He takes us through the inning to contrast the pitcher's performance before runners on base, with runners on base, and then the root cause of the problem. So love not only the what but the why.
@icefalcon2243
11 ай бұрын
Good point . I learned so much from this video
@fang_shi_tong
11 ай бұрын
Fabulous explainer! I’ve been watching baseball for years, but never understood the difference between the stretch and the wind up. Thank you!
@kyuka67
11 ай бұрын
Who tf is Jimmy
@jacrispy8008
11 ай бұрын
@@kyuka67No way you’re serious
@victortachiquin4965
11 ай бұрын
"Hey whatever you do just don't fall down and throw the ball away mid wind up" and then he fell down and threw the ball away mid wind up..I died jomboy is literally the best and funniest sports commentator out there.
@PopOutPaulie
11 ай бұрын
This right here shows you the huge difference in why its important to have certain managers in your organization. Now a good manager isnt gonna let his rookie pitcher tell Him "Im good Im good" after he just fell on the mound. Hes gonna go out there and see wtf is wrong with the pitcher or whats wrong with the mound. Either way theres no way the rook gets to make that decision for the team. Thats not showing the rook up. Its trying to secure the win
@Lank2thepast
11 ай бұрын
Say rook one more time
@PopOutPaulie
11 ай бұрын
@@Lank2thepast Haha
@lrut5274
11 ай бұрын
already had a mound visit
@Josh.WDW.
11 ай бұрын
But you can go out to check for injury. Traded for this young Starter, don't want him trying to 'tough it out'. If you pitch with your back or legs hurt you can really f**ck up your shoulder and possibly cause an injury requiring surgery.
@PopOutPaulie
11 ай бұрын
@@Josh.WDW. I swear I thought I had responded with the same thing but I guess it didn't post. You're 100% right. They still had a injury visit and it was definitely time to use it.
@eduardo0796
11 ай бұрын
The fact that they let him on the mound after the first wild pitch is beyond belief.
@MrJack-nd7hc
11 ай бұрын
It’s despicable really, he damn well could’ve thrown out his arm, he was nervous out there on the mound, the coaching staff should’ve recognized that, he just didn’t want to acknowledge it out loud, due of embarrassment
@spanzotab
11 ай бұрын
@@MrJack-nd7hc Hard to fault the staff for taking the man at his word
@brentholmes5412
11 ай бұрын
This is the state of the royals pitching coaching since the WS. Absolute trash.
@Dulcimerist
11 ай бұрын
They must've thought he was channeling Mitch Williams.
@Scoots1994
11 ай бұрын
Nah, he's an adult and he said he was good. What he should have done is say that he's having a problem with the mound.
@asdfaeou
11 ай бұрын
I think it turned from a physical to mental thing quite quickly.
@drxp6544
10 ай бұрын
Yep definitely had a mini case of the yips
@acebetts4205
11 ай бұрын
I was hoping for a Mark Fidrych reference but I think Jimmy’s right about the fatigue. Rest easy Bird.
@Dulcimerist
11 ай бұрын
I thought about him, too. The Bird would've done some extra mound grooming in order to get the mound feeling right. The grounds crew had come out right before the pitch sequence in this video, and probably messed up what he was getting used to out there.
@Ganjikhan
11 ай бұрын
Jomboy always has the highlights I’m looking for.
@Lilitha11
11 ай бұрын
If you start feeling the mound is a foot taller than it was before, it is definitely time to come out. Pretty sure they didn't add a bunch of dirt mid game. Unless there is a sinkhole under the rubber and that is sinking.
@fishinthewater
11 ай бұрын
it was really sad seeing a 20+ scoreless inning streak go away like this
@138senomar
11 ай бұрын
True but it made for an excellent, excellent breakdown though
@davids9520
11 ай бұрын
I would have taken him out after the first time he fell down. He was going to be thinking about falling with every pitch after that. Young starting pitchers are too valuable, to be messing around with them at this time in the season. Protect him him for the future.
@andrewroberts7428
11 ай бұрын
good learning moment tho, coming at a relatively inconsequential time
@mercster
11 ай бұрын
Alternatively, you set a bad precedent. Young players also need to learn to work their way back after an issue.
@Neotenico
11 ай бұрын
@@mercster But when the issue involves him rolling his ankle during the delivery like that, you have to prioritize the kid's health over training good mental. That's something that can be developed over multiple games (games that he'll miss if he sprains his ankle).
@mercster
11 ай бұрын
@@Neotenico Fair enough... I'm not saying the decision made was right or wrong, just... there's several considerations.
@Dulcimerist
11 ай бұрын
They could've at least done an injury check and have the ump allow a practice throw or two in order to get comfortable again after the first fall. If something about the mound didn't look or feel right, the grounds crew can come out and check on it. In any case, I agree that something needed to be done after the first fall.
@MrInfinityGD
11 ай бұрын
Was listening to this on the radio as a Jays fan and was super confused by this sequence, was fully expecting him to get pulled after walking 2, but this was a whole nother level of wtf is going on here? Seeing this helps clear up what happened, highlights didn't show nuances like his foot getting caught on the mound. Keep it up!
@Apollo55_
11 ай бұрын
What is this 2008? Who's listening to anything on the radio anymore. That was your first problem.
@martelkapo
11 ай бұрын
@@Apollo55_ how else does someone catch a game while driving or working?? Even a quick Google search shows that radio listenership for MLB is up this year lol
@redngold3005
11 ай бұрын
@@Apollo55_ Yeah, it's not like people still drive cars or anything.
@Apollo55_
11 ай бұрын
@@redngold3005 Yeah? Wow I didn't know. Did you know that car dealers report 80% of people are insisting on having Android auto and Apple car play in their vehicles? No radio on there. And having the radio on in your car and actually listening to it are 2 totally different things.
@malcolmsvensson6585
11 ай бұрын
@@Apollo55_ Wanting Android Auto / Apple Car Play is not the same as never using your radio. If I want to listen to music I want to listen to my music rather than what a station decides I should listen to, but I'm happy to turn on the radio to listen to a game or other talk radio broadcast.
@daevydjae
11 ай бұрын
Great breakdown, especially the side-by-side of windup vs stretch.
@elliottbutts153
11 ай бұрын
The young man has a good arm, 98 mph fastball 👍🏻 I think you are correct, he was getting tired. Looked like he was throwing a good game. Still threw a good game.
@CarrieFlattsFan13
11 ай бұрын
I'm a Jays fan and this was wild and tough to see! Ragans was destroying the Blue Jays until this insane sequence of events!
@mikero14_gaming
11 ай бұрын
They tied it 2-2 with 0 hits lmao, the crowd was going insane
@07foxmulder
11 ай бұрын
When this happened, I turned to my gf and said, “Can’t wait to see this on Jomboy.”
@sethhull881
11 ай бұрын
I'm glad we're at the point that when we see something, our first thought is "Can't wait to see Jomboy cover this." And will be right a lot of the time. Lol
@raynb0w6
11 ай бұрын
there was one time me and my dad said that to each other and jomboy never covered it 😭
@willionaire73
11 ай бұрын
Yes!!! Was watching this live and I’m like: Yup, this is going to be on Jomboy 😂
@Blueshirt38
11 ай бұрын
Most surprising part of this is 54 people watching a KC - TOR game.
@Thisisbailie
11 ай бұрын
@@Blueshirt38blue jays are only one of the most popular teams in mlb but go on.
@HerbisRGreen
11 ай бұрын
I played this entire clip back in slow mo a few times. There are a bunch of different things going on here. The first thing I noticed were flaws and inconsistencies in Ragans' mechanics. His pitch count was getting up there, but he was still lighting up the gun in the high 90s. Jimmy noted how Ragans looked at the ground but didn't offer an explanation for why he did that. Ragans was looking at his landing spot (the spot where his front foot lands as he strides toward the plate). It's awfully tough to be accurate if you are trying to throw to the ball the same way but from a different spot every time, or every other time. When a pitcher has sound mechanics, his stride foot will land in the same exact spot on the mound no matter which pitch he throws, no matter if he's in the windup or the stretch. The stretch is simply an abbreviated version of the windup. A pitcher goes to the stretch with runners on base so he can be quicker to the plate. Some guys only pitch out of the stretch because it's easier to stay balanced and keep all of the other mechanics under control when you pitch from the stretch. Less moving parts. Even if the pitcher mixes in a slide step out of the stretch, he should still land in the same spot. Ironically, the first time Ragans gave the ground a dirty look was after his best pitch of the inning. The pitch was out of the zone, but his fundamentals were sound. The pitch was down, and the movement was sharp and late in the zone. The action he got from this pitch was due to his posture and where his arm and body weight were at the release point. Ragans didn't like it because the indentation at the bottom of the hill where he normally lands was probably a little deeper than it was in prior innings. Which is why he kicks some dirt into it. The last thing I noticed is where Ragans was located on the slab. When Ragans winds up he slightly slides his left foot (plant foot) backward on the slab before he lifts, strides, and fires. He wasn't adjusting for this slight relocation when pitching from the stretch. Maybe it was because his landing hole was compromised. Maybe it was because he, and his pitching coach, failed to recognize this tiny important detail. Subconsciously his body noticed it though, and we see what happens when the body and mind are not on the page in this breakdown. And people think baseball is a simple easy game. LOL
@chazmaru9583
11 ай бұрын
Always appreciate your explanations for us non-American sports fans watching these baseball videos out of curiosity.
@BBraich05
11 ай бұрын
To give some context, which Jomboy kinda alludes to, Ragans was pitching an absolute gem and making the Blue Jays look clueless, this came from absolutely nowhere. I don't think the Royals had anyone even warming up, as it seemed like he'd finish the 6th with ease.
@MrJethroha
11 ай бұрын
My dad sometimes helps maintain and setup a AA baseball field and it's kind of crazy how precise they have to be in every aspect of the field. The Pitcher's mound is the most important, but also the hardest to get exactly right, and its important to get it right because the pitchers are used to a very spectific geometry. IDK if thats the case here, but you gotta know the field crew is going to be triple checking their mounds for the next couple weeks at least.
@Eh-ot4vz
11 ай бұрын
The guy threw 5+ excellent innings from the same mound. Every other pitcher had no issues either. To me it's pretty obvious that he was tired and should likely have been pulled after the first wild pitch, if not sooner.
@feelincrispy7053
11 ай бұрын
@@Eh-ot4vzalright alright you didn’t have pull his pants down and spank him. He just wanted to give his dad a shout out and that’s fair lol
@schwamforfreedom
11 ай бұрын
@@Eh-ot4vz None of that means that the mound is to specification. Is this the first time he's ever been tired pitching? Probably not, but he probably does get closer to the mound than other pitchers and is the first to have problems if the mound is out of spec. Could have been just fatigue or something else but other pitchers not having problems just as easily be a difference of mechanics, not lack of fatigue.
@benjaminwirth1208
11 ай бұрын
If the mound wasn’t watered correctly there could’ve been dry clay chunks at the bottom. Might be indicated by the way he’s kicking the dirt around his landing spot. Sometimes the metal cleats can’t break through it.
@AEMoreira81
11 ай бұрын
Interesting that you mention that. In MLB's minor league realignment, that is a large reason why the Yankees moved their AA affiliation from Trenton to a then-independent Somerset; the Trenton field is horrible while the Somerset field is pristine.
@AndrewP3329
11 ай бұрын
My man got tired carrying the Royals pitching staff
@joshfly210
11 ай бұрын
Sometimes as a coach/ parent you have to do things the player/child doesn’t want. You know what’s best for them, but more as a coach for the team. Doesn’t matter what they say they can do, you can see as a coach when you need to step in.
@aarontelander
11 ай бұрын
Speaking of pitching from the stretch: I would love a video analyzing how pitchers do from the stretch vs windup. I wonder which pitchers have the most and least drastic differences 🧐
@MaxMckayful
11 ай бұрын
Middle and right on the last segment show how pro these guys are. Such a perfectly mirrored motion. Untold thousands of reps to get there. Even the worst of MLB (mostly) are artists at this.
@user-iz9rx9ly7e
10 ай бұрын
I appreciate the explanation of difference between "pitching from the windup" and "from the stretch". If you did a video on that, it would be great. I never understood that before.
@jams8015
11 ай бұрын
Imagine having your player insist that he's fine, you trust him because hey he's been a great asset to the team so far and you don't want to show him up, and then he throws a couple more wild pitches and another dolphin dive just to really make you look like a fool
@ChuckoCrafts
11 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this Breakdown all week. The second I saw this I requested it to be made into a breakdown, now I’m super glad it is! Well done as always Jomboy
@johnchidley-hill1763
11 ай бұрын
After the game Ragans blamed it on the mound crumbling away but Blue Jays starter Jose Berrios disagreed. "Sometimes that mound gets really weird because when they open the roof and it's a day game it starts getting hard and the hole starts getting bigger but today it was not bad," said Berrios.
@-Skookie-
11 ай бұрын
Coaches should have noticed something sooner that there was something wrong in his mechanics, probably because they don’t know him well enough yet. As usual, Jomboy’s insight and video skills are the clear winner here.
@Dulcimerist
11 ай бұрын
The grounds crew at Rogers Centre come out to quickly groom the field every five innings, which would've been right before the pitch sequence we see in this video. I don't know how much they smooth and fill in on the mound, though. Divots, grooves, and the landing spot could've all been altered right before the pitch sequence we see in this video.
@rustylee1836
11 ай бұрын
Very interesting! It still makes sense that it was fatigue some (he's been a reliever so shouldn't be throwing over a hundred pitches when he's still throwing 98mph) but a pitcher's mental state and mechanics can definitely be thrown off by a change like that!
@CoffinDaggers
11 ай бұрын
I was at this game and had to explain to my non baseball fan friend that what they just witnessed was a once in a lifetime event akin to Rick Ankiel. Ragans had the Jays on lock down the entire game. The moment he fell off the mound was the moment all the momentum swung to the Jays. I love baseball.
@TEEDUBS
11 ай бұрын
Good on Cole for not flopping and acting like he was hurt; he just shook it off, like an adult/professional, and kept going.
@douglass1221
11 ай бұрын
Huh? The adult would have realized that something was wrong with him (tired) and gotten himself outta there. He did the EXACT OPPOSITE of what an adult/professional should do. You have the same mentality that Cole had which cost them those runs….
@stashito
11 ай бұрын
@@douglass1221 I can’t think of any pitcher that would take them selves out in that instance. Well maybe De Grom, but he would have hurt himself somehow. He is young and a little embarrassed doing that in the show but a veteran would have had the mound measured to kill time and gain composure after the first one. Definitely after the second time
@Willy_the_gunslingin_studentOD
11 ай бұрын
I appreciate how Jimmy shows what he is talking about. I like baseball but I do not have time to watch it much and I forget all these nuances and its nice to see examples with a good explaination!
@Requinix17
11 ай бұрын
Fatigue sounds reasonable. Very weird though
@opie32958
11 ай бұрын
I forget who it was but there used to be a manager who always sent his pitching coach out to pull the pitcher. He was afraid if he went out himself the pitcher might talk him out of it but he knew that if he ordered the pitching coach to do it, the pitching coach wasn't going to come back to the dugout and say "he wants to know if he can stay in."
@paulazmudzinski9225
11 ай бұрын
Charlie Dressen of the Brooklyn Dodgers had that rule. When Charlie went out to the mound the pitchers were not aloud to speak. -mikenotpaula.
@opie32958
11 ай бұрын
@@paulazmudzinski9225 Ah. And I remember that name but hadn't thought about him in years. Thanks!
@pierrelevasseur2701
11 ай бұрын
I was watching that game live. Jays' broadcasters were saying how the Royals got a potential gem from the Rangers (got him for Aroldis Chapman). Apparently, the Rangers did not want him to throw a changeup. So the Royals say, throw your changeup more and we'll make you a starter. Worked out well for them. Well, at least until the sixth inning of that game. He pitched kind of well against Astros on Saturday, until the 7th, so I'm curious to see what he'll do in his next start, should be Friday in Houston. What I don't understand, if you look down multiple times after a pitch, you think there may be something wrong with the mound, ask the groundskeepers to fix it. If you fell, even more so, now's the time. He likely cost his team a win but I'm glad it was against the Jays who needed a win. I hope it will be a learning lesson for Ragans.
@tankinator451
11 ай бұрын
He got flustered after 2 consecutive walks and was more focused on keeping the ball over the plate than he was on his delivery, which combined with fatigue led to him falling mid-delivery. Once he fell once it was all he could think about and was destined to keep happening. Pitching is hard man, it's a constant mental battle with yourself that can very easily turn south.
@plaguerat7634
11 ай бұрын
"Wild thing, you walk everything"
@thewesty101
11 ай бұрын
Haha. "Footage" 😂
@jordanroberts1519
11 ай бұрын
Speaking as a former HS pitcher, I feel very qualified to answer this quandry. I will say from my recollection, windup felt so much more natural than from the stretch. You have more momentum and power it seems than from the stretch. That, along with fatigue, probably didn't help Ragans.
@Apollo55_
11 ай бұрын
High school pitcher here super fucking qualified 😂😂😂
@danielhoward4566
11 ай бұрын
@@Apollo55_ Beats being a former little league player. lol
@Apollo55_
11 ай бұрын
@@danielhoward4566 Lmao I guess You're not wrong.
@danielhoward4566
11 ай бұрын
@@Apollo55_ High School, one step above Middle School. 🤣
@calebos268
11 ай бұрын
Pitch tracker was going crazy this AB lol
@sundaynightdrunk
11 ай бұрын
Fantastic look at this. I saw this highlight and guessed the mound was messed up.
@LucianDevine
11 ай бұрын
Eesh, I don't know. First time could be random, maybe I leave him in maybe I don't. 2nd time in a row is obviously a pattern though. I take him out for sure, specially with the tying run on 3rd.
@jakethesnake1366
11 ай бұрын
Braves fan here, can we please have this guy? I like his spirit
@dragorionsarge2024
11 ай бұрын
That 3rd batter looked like a oompa loompa lol
@bjornkempe9570
11 ай бұрын
Remember going to the kitchen for some snacks after the Schneider walk, came back and it was 2-2 and the graphic showed we still had 1 hit (from earlier)?? Couldn't have been more confused, and then trying to come to terms there were actually 3 wild pitches and that the 3rd one was not a replay of the 1st...
@reaganharder1480
11 ай бұрын
Looking at the side by side comparison of when he fell versus when he didn't, the later pitches he had his lead leg quite a bit straighter at the knee when he caught the mound. Wouldn't surprise me if that was just fatigue.
@lexa5631
10 ай бұрын
This is a fatigue thing. You'll see different guys show it different ways, particularly in the stretch. For me my rotation above my waist gets a bit behind and pitches that were hitting the outside corner (on righties as a RHP) start to move in and up. When you get tired, some part of your body gets out of sync and stuff like this happens. My HS pitching coach was a 9 year pro and he always had us running on non-bullpen days to build stamina. Play with some former college and one or two minor league guys in rec. now and it's the same.
@cacciatoredigiovanni8052
11 ай бұрын
Guy pitching has the same delivery motion as Cole Hamels. Couldn’t stop seeing it after the 3rd pitch I saw.
@Sindraug25
11 ай бұрын
Have you ever been walking on a surface you expect to be level, and slightest little raise in the ground trips you up? We don't realize how precise our steps are till something like that happens. The pitcher clearly had a problem with the mound before tripping, as you can see him continually looking down at it and kicking the dirt. Something was off. Fatigue might have made it worse, causing him to trip, and then conscious overstepping threw off his accuracy when he did clear the spot.
@stashito
11 ай бұрын
Mechanics issue possibly caused by fatigue and some mental. You can see he wasn’t as upright at the apex of his stretch motion. Caused his foot to drag and his pitches going high. Whether this is a mental thing to try and gain more momentum from the stretch… well they’re figuring it all out right now.
@willh4340
11 ай бұрын
The stretch only decreases the time to deliver the pitch, making it more difficult for the runners to steal, which is why all pitchers switch to it with men on base. Some use it without, but everybody uses it with men on base!
@davidmillar2594
11 ай бұрын
Maybe he recently changed cleats? I have several pairs of running shoes, and one pair, it seems I always catch my right foot on something when I run, stumble, almost fall. After three times, I never ran in them again. Never happens with other shoes...
@robertcrist124
11 ай бұрын
:02 Cole “Raygun” Ragans, my homie. Dude K’s up the zone and is such a steal for the team via trade acquisition!
@Alexander_Grant
11 ай бұрын
Typically when you pitch from the stretch you don't lift your leg up as much. You're trying to have a quicker motion towards the plate, so your foot is typically lower. The mound was obviously a problem before he fell, so he had probably felt it already, probably clipping it with his cleats, that's why he threw that one in the dirt. I can't think of any other reason why he would have tripped since he's pitched thousands of times before. When I pitched in high school you sometimes had to go work the mound a bit where your foot would land depending on the other pitcher's stride. Sometimes there'd be spots that other pitchers had kinda dug out where your foot could catch in or you'd land awkwardly.
@JoeGess
11 ай бұрын
Only good detective work on this play. Love you Jomboy
@bradenwilson712
11 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if it's unique to the Jays, but the ads that are infront of the first row aren't actually green screens. They seem to be on some kind of belt that rolls from top to bottom during the comercial breaks
@dynaguy3
11 ай бұрын
3:06 that look on his face was great
@Xeno17289
11 ай бұрын
I was so happy when this happened. This won the game for the jays
@bikeny
11 ай бұрын
I just want to say it's nice to see that KC doesn't have any ugly sleeve patch ad.
@The.Enmikelopedia
10 ай бұрын
So speaking as someone with MS… someone needs to get him under an MRI asap. Super easy to treat if caught early.
@veterinaren
11 ай бұрын
I love how you understand that some of us, like me, are watching this not for the sports but for the commentary. "For you non baseball lovers". As in, "I know you guys are gonna waste your time on this but you don't understand, let me explain".
@DingusKhan42
11 ай бұрын
Man, finally see the royals on a breakdown and it's us with egg on our faces. Pretty on brand I guess.
@taputechnic
11 ай бұрын
I'm curious what the side angle looks like, that is, from the first-base side. I wonder if his stride was shorter from the stretch, and so he wasn't clearing the mound? The guy must have thrown tens of thousands of pitches though. It seems strange that this problem would crop up now all of a sudden.
@brandonfrancey5592
11 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say that this didn't cause the Royals to lose the game. Jays later went on to score 3 more runs off the relievers so even if the wild pitches didn't score any runs, the Jays still would have won.
@whittscott
11 ай бұрын
I was watching this live and thought the third passed ball was just a replay of the first. Wild night
@JustMeELC
11 ай бұрын
Baseball gods with Jays ;o) When this happened I was shocked. Worried about his health bc there was no prob with the mound. NEVER seen anything like it.
@daveomalley3847
11 ай бұрын
I watched this live and was instantly hoping you would do a breakdown... thanks.
@jessecamilleri23
11 ай бұрын
Saw this live at the game. We were all blown away!
@detrickpolk230
11 ай бұрын
I believe fatigue was only part of it. The mound being hard is probably another factor. That is the reason he was kicking the mound and looking down. Sometimes they get a little dried out throughout the game. In extreme situations it will be hard to land cleanly with your cleats. Too bad he did not make it to the seventh inning stretch so they wound add a little water to mound as they redo the dirt in the infield.
@paulclement4222
11 ай бұрын
I think it was Jose Berrios who said sometimes the mound get weird at Rogers Centre when the roof is open. The analysis in this video looks pretty good, and the side by side stuff was telling, but he was kicking at that spot on the mound. The Sportsnet TV announcers were (iirc) saying why wasn't he asking grounds crew to come out a see to it?
@benjaminwirth1208
11 ай бұрын
This is a mound issue. Key indicator he keeps kicking the dirt around his landing spot. What can happen especially later in games is you can get dry clay chunks that sometimes your metal cleats can’t break through causing your landing foot to feel like it’s on ice. It’s a very unnerving feeling.
@Dulcimerist
11 ай бұрын
The grounds crew at Rogers Centre come out to quickly groom the field every five innings, which would've been right before the pitch sequence we see in this video. I don't know how much they smooth and fill in on the mound, though. Divots, grooves, and the landing spot could've all been altered right before he went out there.
@Math.Bandit
11 ай бұрын
His landing foot wasn't even landing was the problem. Jomboy breaks it down very clearly in the video; he wasn't getting his foot high enough so it dragged. Had nothing to do with where it came down. But sure, must have been an issue with the mound that popped up mid-inning out of nowhere and then went away without anyone working on it as soon as a not-gassed pitcher came into the game.
@Dulcimerist
11 ай бұрын
@@Math.Bandit Or the next pitcher noticed the routine 5th inning field grooming had added a bit too much dirt back on the mound, and used their cleats to shape it up better.
@Math.Bandit
11 ай бұрын
@@Dulcimerist and the "routine 5th inning grooming" was fine for nine batters until suddenly on the 10th batter it caused the pitcher to drag his front leg and get less lift than he had two batters earlier?
@Dulcimerist
11 ай бұрын
@@Math.Bandit The video clearly showed something was not fine, since he kept looking down at the mound several times after pitches, as if something wasn't right with it. He kicked at the dirt a bit, and if things weren't feeling right, it would slightly change his mechanics. Then he went into the stretch and changed how he set up on the mound, which set up the fall. Watch the video, dude!
@smallputt
11 ай бұрын
Certified Jomboy Classic
@critic2000
11 ай бұрын
Yeah I hope it was just fatigue too. I was at that game, it was the craziest thing to see and until then he had been pitching really well.
@Swoopdaddyy
11 ай бұрын
Looks like he is landing slightly positioned to the left more when he was comin outta the stretch. He's a bit more to the right comin outta the wind up. Maybe that had something to do with his landing of the front foot
@samneverleft10
11 ай бұрын
His hips are lower from the stretch, so where the leg would normally clear because his hips are higher, from the stretch they are lower with less room for the foot to clear the stride to impact. It also messes with the plant of the foot and the rest of his mechanics.
@kahopukehau
11 ай бұрын
That third clip on the right his foot cleared but the dirt broke hard when his toes made contact
@zacharyfett2491
11 ай бұрын
If the pitcher is having an issue with the mound, can’t he or the team call for the grounds crew? Those guys come out to shore up the mound when it’s raining; why not in this situation?
@Dulcimerist
11 ай бұрын
The grounds crew had just been out there. The Rogers Centre crew run out to quickly groom the field every five innings. They likely smoothed over the grooves, divots, and landing spot right before the pitch sequence in this video. Perhaps that was the problem, since the mound would've suddenly felt different than the previous inning.
@GeoffNelson
11 ай бұрын
I like how Jomboy says “I’m not a pitching coach… at all”. Like, not part time or nothing.
@justink1075
11 ай бұрын
Good diagnosis Dr Jomboy. Maybe he has a wooden leg. Perhaps a move to Pittsburg for him?
@uba2
11 ай бұрын
this started to feel like the SNL Olympics ice skating sketch with jason priestly
@Escobart911
11 ай бұрын
Thanks Jimmy
@HiImSeanIPlayBass
11 ай бұрын
Seems like that mound wasn’t crowned correctly. With him kicking at it so early on, he knew something didn’t feel right. The rubber might even have been wiggling a little bit.
@Dulcimerist
11 ай бұрын
The grounds crew at Rogers Centre come out to quickly groom the field every five innings. Curious to see camera footage of what they did. If they had filled or smoothed the landing spot and other divots Ragans had been getting used to, it would've happened right before the pitch sequence in this video.
@stemlator
11 ай бұрын
"Hey, whatever you do, just don't fall down mid-windup and throw the ball away, ok?" "The next pitch...oh no! He fell down mid-windup! Threw the ball away!" LMAO
@patrickcarder1644
11 ай бұрын
His anchor left leg is also bending a lot more in the stretch. Like he’s getting deeper into it
@martinvarona4419
11 ай бұрын
as a newbie baseball fan, i thank you
@ABock4
11 ай бұрын
Of course our starter that we got in the Aroldis Chapman trade basically dominates for like 8 starts, but then has one of the weirdest moments in recent memory lol. That’s a very Royal thing to do 🤦🏻♂️. And as soon as I saw this happen, I was like, “Jomboy.” 😂
@nhlanhlankosi7014
11 ай бұрын
bro i thought i was in a dream when he dropped a second time! LIKE WHAA get em out he's in his own head lmao. great vid
@halfpastblog
11 ай бұрын
As a Jays fan I was so happy when they left him in.
@ShaneT5S
11 ай бұрын
My dad reminded it and showed me and my first thought was “I hope Jimmy covers this”
@Jeathetius
10 ай бұрын
I was at this game and it was like watching a car crash in slow motion. I have never seen anything like it.
@tuckerprice9663
11 ай бұрын
2:32 #30 on Toronto looks like he is straight out of Backyard Baseball.
@Teenieweeniemussolini
11 ай бұрын
The mud is building up on his shoe too, so it’s like he’s goin an extra inch of heel.
@peterjeffery8495
11 ай бұрын
Maybe a psychological glitch. They happen and that's what it looked like live.
@douglass1221
11 ай бұрын
It clearly shows immaturity when a person can’t put his team above himself; when a person can’t tell that the right move is to not have themself in the game any more. THAT is the talk the manager has to have with him.
@andrewcalhoun7214
11 ай бұрын
Manager's got eyes. It's on him to take him out.
@Jeremy-The-Bullfrog
11 ай бұрын
His pitching motion looks a lot like Sidd Finch's
@aconsideredmoment
11 ай бұрын
It seemed like he was uncomfortable with the mound, but could not see enough to justify fixing it, maybe, so instead altered his delivery? What are the rules for calling for the mound to be groomed/repaired in the middle of an inning? The triple comparison, I wonder if the middle shot, he overthrows because he is not confident in his plant foot.
@nachobroryan8824
11 ай бұрын
Not surprised the Royals had a Jomboy breakdown of something like this.
@josephbradshaw6985
11 ай бұрын
Those cleats. Don't they look a bit heavy duty on the heal?
@chimaican01
11 ай бұрын
All I know is it was entertaining to watch as the Jays tied it up.
@andrewbloom7694
3 ай бұрын
I think he caught his foot once, and then immediately started overcompensating, trying to make sure he fully clears and then lands on the ground
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