WOW I have no idea how I did this. Thank you for bringing this up.
@milahancock6405
4 жыл бұрын
Questing Refuge must have been a typo. It’s fine, you’re welcome
@lemurblue6041
3 жыл бұрын
I thought her name was Renee.
@LostEngineProductions
3 жыл бұрын
@@lemurblue6041 i think they mean the actor
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Renee is the character. Madison is the voice actress
@effeffiagonalick5078
3 жыл бұрын
Music: iT wOuLd hAvE bEeN tOo hArD fOr aN aUtIsTiC pErSoN tO dO tHiS rOlE! Loop: Let's get an actually autistic person to help us out and provide accommodations so she can do her work without getting overwhelmed. While we're at it, let's work with a community-driven organization so that we make this story as tasteful and true to life as possible. Also, the non-autistic boy isn't a hero for tolerating Renee's presence because that's just called being a decent human being.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Haha I absolutely love this
@JETS5
3 жыл бұрын
@@QuestingRefuge same
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798
3 жыл бұрын
Me To Pixar Who Make Loop = Clap For Pixar
@MrZakiaashraf
3 жыл бұрын
@@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 Literally they deserve 1TRILLION AWARDS FOR MAKING THIS MOVIE LIKE IT WOULD HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE AND NOT SOME STUPID STEROTYPES.
@Yeti-xc4jg
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, a voice acting job is the same environment as a full acting job with dancing.
@vannah_04
3 жыл бұрын
I like how they actually make the guy actually fustrated in the short. I have seent so many times where the person helping the autistic kid is portrayed as this paitent saint who could do no wrong. When in reality especially if you're an uneducated kid, you're gonna get confused and fustrated when interacting with someone who is that level of autistic. However in the end he learns how to properly communicate with her and even relate to her. I like his character because it's realistic. It's normal for miscommunication and frustration to happen between both parties but once the parties become familiar with one another then they get a better understanding. And let's be honest this society is ableist and doesn't teach anyone about autism and disability.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
I do like that part too! While I feel the coach encouraging shows a lot of those misconceptions really are from the ableist society like you're saying
@BubbleArcadia
Жыл бұрын
I wish everyone could be that mildly frustrated with me instead of going straight to yelling at me for getting overstimmulated. 😒
@BethanyHarbaugh
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that they accommodated a real person with nonverbal autism to do the voice of the nonverbal autistic character is BEAUTIFUL. I was so angry to hear when Sia’s movie replaced the original actress because they wouldn’t accommodate her and her needs. But to hear they did so with this short is so heartwarming and incredible. Good for them for truly trying to work with people to get a fair representation in it. It’s not my form of autism, but I’ve had moments (particularly when I’m having severe sensory overload) that I get the same way as the girl from the short. I haven’t seen this short just yet, but I will be seeing it very soon.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
It was so nice to see that! Absolutely awful Sia removed them and then responded hostile to other autistic actors.
@agoosed3281
3 жыл бұрын
Not quite, in other interviews, Sia said that the role was created for Maddie. The music rabbit hole only gets more infuriating as you look into it. Fuck Sia.
@SkullZie
3 жыл бұрын
@@agoosed3281 omg i used to like SIA, now im very dissapointed and confused about everything that she is.. i used to like her music, i used to like it so much. But alas, it was all for nothing XC eek why did she have to do this to us all
@agoosed3281
3 жыл бұрын
@@SkullZie Ableism is unfortunately the norm in the entertainment industry. Hopefully, by boycotting their products, we can force them to do better.
@darianstarfrog
3 жыл бұрын
There was no autistic person. .she lied
@charliequartz2085
3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE that they went to ASAN for council on this and not Autism Speaks. A lot of entertainment companies go straight to Autism Speaks and it's super disheartening. Seeing a major company like this back and work with ASAN is incredible.
@graveyardscarlettanis13
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Autism Speaks is outside my country but still, screw them.
@katietaylor8314
Жыл бұрын
Autism Speaks can fuck right off ~An autistic person
@MsYukizomesorangejuice
2 ай бұрын
ALL MY HOMIES LOVE ASAN!!!!
@riotbreaker3506
3 жыл бұрын
Sia should've taken notes.
@princesaplantano
3 жыл бұрын
She really should
@Logitah
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed.. *sigh* Indeed!
@randomcat1962
3 жыл бұрын
She kinda messed up on her movie *a lot*
@mokko759
3 жыл бұрын
Why would she do that? She clearly knows more about how autism affects people and how autistic people behave better than the autistic community knows themselves. You should be thankful she wrote and produced that charming movie and cast her creepy child crush in it! I am extremely sarcastic here.
@handfulmousefly
3 жыл бұрын
Sia claimed to have done extensive research, but were that true she would've known Autism Speaks is considered a hate group by the actual autistic community and that the restraints she depicted are deadly
@amysarahace
3 жыл бұрын
better than music
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Haha that's a REALLY low bar
@WoofleSnoot
3 жыл бұрын
Anything's better than music (Movie wise, we dont include autism speaks)
@sketchs_art_corner
3 жыл бұрын
@@WoofleSnoot I was about to say that
@HawkinaBox
3 жыл бұрын
My thoguhts exactly
@imthecoolestguyalive
3 жыл бұрын
A headcanon made by the fandom of the "CharacterName is autistic." variety is better, than Music. My DMs with an autistic friend about a video game is better, than Music. It ain't that high of a bar.
@_TSC_46
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t get like why people use autism as inspo porn. Like hanging out with someone who is alone is just being a decent person regardless of neurodivergency. Seeing her stim definitely reminded me of how I stim as well(I mask most of the time but when I don’t iTs very freeing) hand movements are the biggest stim I have but mostly happen when I’m listening to music or overly excited and seeing her made me want to do it as openly as well. I loved loop it was so good i remember watching it for the first time and relating to both characters equally
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
It is really strange. Unfortunately, inspiration porn probably isn't going anywhere for a while. Glad you enjoyed Loop as well!
@princeofvos
3 жыл бұрын
Im not Autistic, I have Adhd, but I wanted to say I feel you on the hand stimming part. When I end up stimming hard to music I start running around and jumping and moving my hands a lot. It makes me laugh a lot cause when I do it in front of my mom she thinks it looks weird and that im trying to be weird, so when I do it alone it makes me smile. Also in general I stim involving my hands a lot. Constantly pressing on my knuckles in an organized pattern when I get anxious, banging on the table, shaking my hands up and down when I get excited, more that I forgot because bad memory lol. Im glad I have someone to relate to with that :]
@_TSC_46
3 жыл бұрын
@@princeofvos oh yes Im NOt on the spectrum I also have ADHD. Glad I’m not alone on that lol
@toothless3835
3 жыл бұрын
I talk with my hands a lot. Use them when Im trying to remember. I don't believe it to be a tick or anything. I just thought some people talk with their hands, and some dont. Couldn't tell you if I have any type of mental disorder, I know I have undiagnosed anxiety of some sort and depression, along with social issues. Now that I've written it out, Im confident it's some sort of social anxiety along with other anxieties that relate to schedules, breaks (like when I was I. School, summer and winter break always destroyed me), and fear of disappointing or letting others down. I need money. I'm too poor for proper evaluation and therapy.
@JustAnzia
3 жыл бұрын
And I'm somewhat happy that I went to a school for people with autism, for my last 2 years of school. the only downside to the school was the crappy teachers, that thought that we were very dumb kids. that would not see through their shitty act of using us for inspo.
@pondererofpointlessdreams5029
3 жыл бұрын
"...even going to a better environment to record for Amanda." Take notes, Sia.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Please! The whole industry
@rainyrainr3571
3 жыл бұрын
4:34 After seeing Sia's new film trailer... unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case. :/
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Well said. Ugh
@desiree7633
3 жыл бұрын
i came here because of that
@NameName-yj7lp
3 жыл бұрын
What was the new one?
@ellievampmtf
3 жыл бұрын
@@NameName-yj7lp I think they were just referring to the "Music" movie, which, to say the least, did a fucking awful job of presenting people with autism
@broadwayaddict6665
3 жыл бұрын
@@ellievampmtf FRRRRRR it felt more like a mockery than anything. I get physically sick just watching small snippets
@angelsartandgaming
4 жыл бұрын
I'm autistic and while I'm not like the girl, there's one part that I relate to on such a personal level that I could never explain. The tunnel scene where she hears that loud noise and it's unbearable, it makes her panic, it hurts, and I cried because that's exactly how it feels! Whenever I describe my aversion to some noises, I have a hard time explaining what it feels like. That was a perfect explanation of what I go through.
@QuestingRefuge
4 жыл бұрын
It is so hard to explain sensory differences like this you're right. Many noises don't bother me as much like nails on a chalk board, but other noises make it so I can't think at all and it's so painful!
@Rose-wg7hm
3 жыл бұрын
That used me be when I was younger I would freak over the noises
@Rose-rx4zn
3 жыл бұрын
I don't freak out but stuff like velcro and air horns make me cringe .
@angelsartandgaming
3 жыл бұрын
@@Rose-rx4zn AIR HORNS!! Okay that and firetruck sirens. I go into major fight or flight mode.
@sheenawarecki92
3 жыл бұрын
I can't remember it atm but there's a name for it! I have it too and mine is mainly high pitched whine noises
@WhoisPersona
3 жыл бұрын
I have a saying that when you meet a person with Autism, you meet one person with Autism. As a spectral disorder each person will experience it in a different way, I have high functioning Autism which means that I have a lot more awareness and control over myself. That being said i have no gauge on volume and even at the age of 25 I still am a ways of from being an independent person. I think the greatest aspect about myself has to be the ability to get lost in myself, I can just turn everything else off and enter a state of thought where I feel safe.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Love that saying!
@SkullZie
3 жыл бұрын
:) when i used to be a kid i would always get lost in myself all the time when i used to think too much for my own good but its starting to fade away :'( i want to go back to that feeling so badly but i just cant. But im waiting very patiently for it to happen and then i forgot all about it.. thank you for reminding me of my happy moments when i used to blackout in the middle of the school playground thinking about my life :3
@beywheelzhater8930
3 жыл бұрын
Even amongst specific sections like Asperger's it can differ wildly, some symptoms even going against each other like a lack of volume control versus a robotic voice with basically no tone changes You could hang out with an autistic person all your life, walk up to me, and just be immediately confused as to why I am walking in circles aimlessly having no idea that the sudden hand movements your friend may do and my walking are both different levels of stimming
@windcrystal1349
2 жыл бұрын
Autistic person, not person with autism.
@TheAnxiousOwl
Жыл бұрын
Me frickin' too.
@Kiku91
3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I know the reason I loved Loop was not so much because of the boy's actions. Honestly as far as being written between the ages of 12-15 he acted like a real kid. He was frustrated, confused, but willing to compromise and use the information he is given to find solutions. And Disney is good at making great, believable kids once in awhile. I loved this film because of the portrayal of Renee. It was a "show not tell" story where nothing was demonized, satirized, Renee is a young girl who has her niches and loves canoeing. She also just can't talk with words, but has her own vocalizations, is prone to stimulation overload and uses nature sensory to calm down. Maybe it's because as a preschool teacher I have worked with non verbal autistic children, and it brought me back to those times I was learning how to communicate with them without losing my patience. Because being a bit on the spectrum myself, the last thing I want to do is make a child feel like they are broken.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
This is said beautifully! And an interesting point, in that focusing on the common mistakes I did center reasoning more on Marcus. You're absolutely right about the points you've brought up
@hanne_draws
3 жыл бұрын
After the terrible "representation" in Sia's Music, Loop is so refreshing! I'm excited to see more things like Loop!
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Music was really a HUGE step back, like off a cliff. Hopefully we will see more like Loop
@Br1annaFr33man
Жыл бұрын
@@QuestingRefuge Off a cliff with a grand piano strapped to its back.
@TrueLadyEvilChan
4 жыл бұрын
There's also the case of characters with autism being just the token "autistic". Oh they're "always" quirky, brainy, maybe aloof or not all there or stand offish. While these are true to a point, these are just traits that apply to a bunch of people. And it gives the impression to the uninformed/the "average" people we will say, that these traits are a 101 on identifying someone with autism. There's also the harmful (if accidental at times) implication that because this stereotype is a thing, that this is the only kind of people with autism in the world. Where it's very much not so. The creators of these characters also should be careful to create them with the mindset of character first, autism second. I can make exceptions obviously for films or other works centered on this; it's kinda the point. But there are definitely works (that I can't think of at the moment but I'm sure there are) where they did not portray those with autism in a fair light. I'd never want anyone to be spurred into a relationship with me just for my "disability" and I definitely would be hurt if they did it knowing or hoping or expecting some 5 mins of praise and fame. Congrats you treated me like a person? I want to be noticed for who I am, not *"what"* I am.
@QuestingRefuge
4 жыл бұрын
"Character first" is exactly right! You can see this so much in various media. I find it extra upsetting when it's a news story because those are real people. It's so nice to see a different type of representation in Loop that is informed. I was so surprised to see no mention of them being familiar with autism at all and yet they put in this effort.
@ViktoriaMagrey
4 жыл бұрын
I fit what you described but that's completely true, that's not all there is to it, there is a *lot* more. And there are many other things not just relating to my autism but who I am as a person. There are a many ways in which it can manifest. It also doesn't help that there only seem to be maybe a couple of standard presets used for autistic people and disabled people in general, that are just plain...generic. Heck, it kinda hurts because some people who know me will start claiming that Aspergers makes people really intelligent or artistic and that's not...true. I'm not your standard for what an Aspie is, it's a part of who I am, yes, but I'm not the gold standard - and that's not what being autistic means. It also creates this certain insecurity in me that tells me that if I behave even slightly more off than usual or demonstrate some of the more obvious traits I'm going to be toast. People considered low-functioning, I've known them. Some of them are people I know, people I consider my brothers and sisters, and they are usually treated like garbage because they aren't autistic in the more socially acceptable way that I am, and that hurts more than anything in the world.
@QuestingRefuge
4 жыл бұрын
@@ViktoriaMagrey that is awful your siblings are treated that way. We have such a long way to go to accepting people how they are. It's difficult inside of a system that places value on our productivity. I relate so much to this idea of how people may perceive you too. It's like having to manage 2 versions of yourself. Even though I've learned to worry less about it, you can't help but notice or think of it. I think people want these measurable differences to point to. It's so hard to describe a system difference because it affects everything. There's not really anything I could say for sure would be the same if I wasn't autistic.
@ViktoriaMagrey
4 жыл бұрын
@@QuestingRefuge It's worth noting I don't actually have blood siblings with autism. But I've made family and very close friends with some people on the spectrum like me - especially online, so yeah. It's kind of a big deal. And I appreciate it. Because I hear them say this a lot, and it hits very personally, as you can imagine. That's a pretty big problem there is in the system, not just for autistic people, but for everyone who isn't a perfect standard for productivity, like you said. Yeah! I've tried to manage it in a way that doesn't affect my sanity too much, and I definitely feel better knowing that I'm not alone the way I was when I was undiagnosed, but sometimes it can be too much for me to manage, and it can really suck the life out of you. A balancing act, I guess. The last part is also very true. It's too deeply rooted in who we are - in the same way that NTs have personalities and differences but they're also all based on their brain and the way that they are structured, there's just no real one trait that defines autism as a whole, which is why the idea of a spectrum is so brilliantly put - but I guess that especially due to how little variety there is in how we are represented, people usually don't understand how that works even a little bit. I wouldn't mind having as many savants as we do if we at least got a little more nuance and effort into representing them as people outside of autism and of course, more variety in terms of how autism affects them. I heard another person who reviewed these same shorts say that they felt kind of outed in the media because they were "average". Not a genius, not a person who was mentally challenged in some way, just pretty "average", and that's also that needs to be discussed because of how often representation tends to move to perceived extremes on here.
@TrueLadyEvilChan
4 жыл бұрын
@@ViktoriaMagrey That is really unfortunate to hear, my friend. As for myself, my autism started with me; something just ALIGNED and so I'm the only one in my family tree - barring people who were missed obviously - who developed it. My parents don't have it nor my brother. So that's not helped in the earlier stages of learning about it, believing myself to be a defect. I'm also not very productive when it comes to maths or sciences, so I'm not a logic or number kinda guy at all - which according to the public would be inconceivable that someone with autism wouldn't be "smart". Aside from one teacher in preschool or early elementary, whichever, told me I was solving questions wrong because I was "too slow" and doin it the "wrong way", but I was getting the right answer so that was very silly and unwelcoming. I really hope you and your siblings can get through this.
@TheMissileHappy
3 жыл бұрын
Every time someone says "Things are going pretty bad" in a video, I immediately look at the date, the video was uploaded. Like, is it a 2020 video or a "before" video.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Haha this one was right on the edge
@MastaGambit
3 жыл бұрын
hey totally unrelated but props for the Keen avatar
@jenealeisman268
3 жыл бұрын
I read the title as, Australian representation hard to find in Pixar
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
😂You must have had quite the surprise
@user-jc8by2wj8g
3 жыл бұрын
I mean, I havent seen a single australian character from pixar so i guess thats kinda true
@l.pietrobon3925
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-jc8by2wj8g As far as we know, the dinosaurs from The Good Dinosaur could be aussie.
@beywheelzhater8930
3 жыл бұрын
G'day Woodie it is me ya new best mate "Stereotypical Austrialian Action Figure!"
@cptTK421
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-jc8by2wj8g So we're just gonna ignore the whole latter half of Nemo, then? /s
@adrianghandtchi1562
3 жыл бұрын
I am non-autistic I will say as much, so I might never understand what it’s like to be somebody who is, but what you say helps bring me closer to understanding and communicating with people who are neuro-divergent. I can’t articulate it any other way to show my gratitude for this video.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm really glad to hear that
@MJHootHoot
3 жыл бұрын
In my case it’s fucking hell.
@BubbleArcadia
Жыл бұрын
I greatly appreciate allistic people like you who are willing to try to understand those who are greatly discriminated and misunderstood.
@ladygrey4113
3 жыл бұрын
I hate the inspo porn. I’m on the spectrum myself and people think of me as “high functioning” though I prefer to think of it as I’m more able to mask my symptoms. It feels to me that folks use folks who have more difficulty communicating conventionally to both feel sorry for them and “aww” like they’re puppies. Also it just made me feel awful as a kid that folks were so faux-concerned for one end of the spectrum but folks like me who pass as eccentric or “odd” still need help were ignored or told “you just need to work harder at being normal”.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
It's absolutely awful. No one wins in this way of doing things. I hope you are able to not spend all your energy on stuff like masking. It's so hard.
@ladygrey4113
3 жыл бұрын
@@QuestingRefuge Thankfully, my "professional behavior" for work helps do the masking for me.
@drawnwithlove3499
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I hate it when you're so good at masking (which is alot worse than it sounds) so people don't believe you're autistic. I've learned to mask so much in my life I don't even know how to be 'autistic'. I only found out a few months ago, instead of burying my anger, I can STIM it out! Excuse me????? Why didn't anyone tell me how great stimming is as an outlet??????
@Eusong
3 жыл бұрын
There are people I've encountered who have no difficulty masking but will go out of their way to feign incredible difficulty with their condition; I know because their behavior changes wildly depending on who they're talking to but they specifically feign it towards people who treat them better than other people for it. They seem to crave the "brownie points" of being autistic and as someone who does her best to mask at all times including around those I'm close to, it pisses me off to see people milk it even to the point of lying about their struggles. Especially since they don't treat others with it the same way they expect to be treated. I believe there's a sense of social decency people should maintain and it doesn't matter if you're "normal" or not, certain behaviors are always unacceptable. The hypocrisy is nauseating and honestly I prefer hanging around those who don't believe autism is a thing because at least they treat me on an equal level. I've had a lot of very bad experiences with others who claim to also be autistic.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
@@Eusong how do you know they are feigning? Masking by it's very nature isn't low energy. You may get used to it as a new "normal" for you, but it definitely will save lots of energy not doing it. Not saying no one may feign, but of the issues that seems like it'd be pretty insignificant to what most deal with.
@JayEmsey35
2 жыл бұрын
I know I am WAY late, but I wanted to say this. As an autistic person myself, I agree with your point about news stories like the ones you mentioned. It always really bothered, even disgusted, me that these stories seemed to regard the person on the receiving end of the kindness as a prop. A background character that isn’t actually important to the story. I’ve only really seen a handful of times where the person conducting the interview even SPOKE to the person, let alone in depth. That kind of stuff implies that disabled people don’t deserve basic human kindness, and for them receive it is newsworthy imo.
@candiicane9386
Жыл бұрын
Fr I’m not autistic but every time I see those types of stories on the news it confuses me bc people are getting congratulated for being a decent human being, and the person who actually is neurodivergent isn’t asked if they’re comfortable with any of this being on the news
@grandmotherstales966
4 жыл бұрын
Things will change (again) when neurodiverse people will be looked at (not down), and not with fear, caution, evasion and dismissal, but with curiosity towards what they have to offer. Like any other people.
@QuestingRefuge
4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to that as I think we have so much to offer and learn as more types of experiences as shared. Much like we have seen with discussions around gender.
@moret25
4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't hold your breath. Humans will always be afraid of the alien, the outcast, the odd, the other.
@emusaurus
3 жыл бұрын
I have an even greater fear of special needs people now because of this film.
@grandmotherstales966
3 жыл бұрын
@@moret25 as long as we live in fear-based mentality we are trapped in the fight-flight-freeze responce, sadly
@grandmotherstales966
3 жыл бұрын
@@emusaurus being educated (about special needs people) gives you power to slect your reactions/respoces more wisely than just being afraid. If you choose to avoid engaging with special needs people, that is fine, and knowing when not to engage will help you find your boundaries and feel safe, No need to be afraid - living in fear does not serve anyone
@sharktenko267
3 жыл бұрын
as someone with autism, all we want is to be treated like anyone else and that goes for verbal and non-verbal as well also thank god pixar didnt work with that OTHER autism(well anti-autism really) group you know the one
@alexandersean4708
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, THAT one. They can go- actually, KZitem probably won’t let me finish that sentence.
@xdoge_x
Жыл бұрын
@@alexandersean4708 fuck themselves.
@TMBKTheLazyBee
Жыл бұрын
@@alexandersean4708 they can somersault off a microwave!!!
@amandamakin1542
Жыл бұрын
They can go & take a hike (yes I know who that group is)
@graveyardscarlettanis13
Жыл бұрын
Yeah ikwym. Absolute hate-group
@carmel9583
3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I went to a new high school, I didn’t want anyone to know me because if you’re on the spectrum, everyone pretends to be your friend out of pity for you
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry. No one should ever have to feel that way. I hope you get more acceptance now
@quirkyeggmuffin
3 жыл бұрын
I recently learned that I’m on the autism spectrum. While it isn’t like my sister’s it did explain a lot about my personality and how I express myself when no one is around. It started to feel strange the more I thought about it but I think I’m alright
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
I hope that new understanding of yourself helps! I know it was really rough for me at first but a huge help over time.
@incarnatemus
3 жыл бұрын
hello hi obligatory "im autistic" but maybe i shouldn't write an essay so i'll just say this was cool and i'm glad to see representation of the spectrum getting better
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Obligatory ✊
@tiffanypersaud3518
9 ай бұрын
❤
@cyannepanda
3 жыл бұрын
Loop was a beautiful film it made me cry . My sister is autistic and while she is not nonverbal a lot of what happened in the short reminded me of her. I hugged her so hard and then we went on a drive and got a snack lol
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
That sounds really nice. Hope you both had a good time!
@apparentlyasun
3 жыл бұрын
thank you for talking about the inspo porn thing omg!! as a neurodivergent person who has a lot of autistic friends it drives me up the wall when people who see us hanging out and see it as "inspiring" for literally treating them like i would any other person. Its not inspiring, im not friends with them because they're autistic, im friends with them because we have stuff in common and enjoy each others company!! It also completely ignores what they have to say a lot of the time babies/talks down to them in a way that is really uncomfortable. they're people too and have thoughts and opinions like everyone else, and these people really should listen to what they have to say
@jesusfalacomigo33
3 жыл бұрын
Just wanna say I'm a mother of an autistic kid, I'm watching your videos e finding out how much I can make it better for him. Thank you!! You are doing this for my kid and for me!!
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This means a lot to hear. Hope you and your kid are doing well
@jesusfalacomigo33
3 жыл бұрын
@@QuestingRefuge yes we are!! He is a fabulous son, he deserves the best. And you're helping me a lots. Thanks for what you're doing here!!
@maddie_productionsbehindth1302
4 жыл бұрын
Great vid , I’m a person wwhos been on the spectrum , but i don’t like it when people baby me, try to alienate me, Or take advantage of me as an artist, Or when my parents try to spread it like it’s a “super good thing” |:
@SkullZie
3 жыл бұрын
Ee, same but i only get annoyed when people talk to me like a kid, especially my little sister but i dont tell her that cuz i dont wanna be mean XC
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
That is absolutely awful to deal with. All too common sadly
@JustAnzia
3 жыл бұрын
taking advantage of someone in the family who's an artist is a bad thing, I keep getting asked to draw things for family members. I know they can't pay for it, but they keep asking for me to draw them something cause they are family.
@a.w.e.5263
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, you don't know me. I just found your channel and looking through your videos made me want to reach out. I was hospitalized on Friday for anaphylaxis after getting an iron infusion for the first time ever the day before. The hospital had a policy similar to most right now unless you are under 18 you cannot have anyone with you, well my wife and I tried explaining to 3 security officers that I am autistic and have mental health issues. Throw that ontop of not really being able to breath or see at the moment and I really couldn't do much for myself. They said "it doesn't matter hospital policy, if I see you trying to enter the hospital I will be forced to take action" yeah so I end up being brought to the back where I am constantly talked down to for doing what they asked. Clothes off robe on tie in back... she specifically said tie in back 3 times... she comes back after I've changed and yells at me for tying the robe because "how can I put the monitor on if it's tied". She gets me hooked up to the heart monitor. I'm still for a couple minutes while my breathing is slowing regulating. I start flapping, than rocking and I hear something from the hall "not that room were ignoring her until she calms down " I stop with the physical stimming and focus on a stim toy I had on me and asking to see someone. An hour goes by Noone come my heart monitor has gone off several times... another hour goes by this time my heart reaching 176 I pull the wires and walk out to the hall... finally get someone's attention he says I have to wait for a doctor.... I go back in the room and wait the alarm goes off 4 more times the doctor finally comes in (no more than 5 minutes after the last alarm) and says "it looks like you've calmed down you can go now" After anaphylaxis you re often hospitalized on observation to assure the adrenaline from the epipen doesn't cause any issues with your heart such as an attack or stoke. They didn't care at all about my heart rather my stimming, and this is not the only instance. I'm sharing my story with you in the hopes that you could cover the topic of medical neglect when it comes to patients on the spectrum
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry you had to go through this. That is absolutely horrifying to be treated that way. That is a great topic to cover, I will definitely write this down. There's so many different aspects related to this too. But this really highlights how the stigma causes a focus on behavior they don't understand versus your actual well being. Thank you for sharing this.
@a.w.e.5263
3 жыл бұрын
@@QuestingRefuge I liked how you cover things so thought my story could possibly do some good.
@skylerpoduska
3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, I"m so sorry that they did that. It's absolutely a problem in the medical field that their biases hurt others, or neglect them.
@JustAnzia
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you had to go though this they are much kinder at hospitals towards children than adults, I learned that the hard way when staff laughed at me in the ER for mental health. when I was under 18 they treated me kindly but when i went as an adult they laughed at me a belittled me. for not being perfectly mentally stable at 19, fun times I haven't gone to the hospital since.
@FluffyEclairs
Жыл бұрын
I know you. I actually don't. 😐
@ShaDHP23
4 жыл бұрын
I'm 50/50 on this short. On one hand Renee is realistic and not entirely sold as a complete burden, but if we see this short as realism as opposed to a contained story, Marcus is basically saddled with being a psuedo-counselor to a special needs child whom (based on his dialogue) he knows very little of. This sort of thing makes for a good story when it's a contained, fictitious short, but in the real world (where this is a regular occurrence) this is barely a step away from neglect and has disastrous outcomes more than 50% of the time because of how uninformed the other children and even the supervising adults usually are. I'm grateful representation of autism is improving in media, but it may be time to start moving past romanticizing the integration of autistic individuals with the general public. Maybe Loop and Float are baby steps. Time will tell.
@QuestingRefuge
4 жыл бұрын
I can kind of see your concern. I think the only thing that would need to change in a less contained story is that the children wouldn't have been left stranded for such a long period of time. I don't think Marcus was expected to be a counselor and the idea that you would need to be to interact with an autistic child is not true and part of what was good about this. From the short story we can tell Renee is regularly there and if anything Marcus is just hesitant because has never interacted with individually probably because of social norms. We have no reason to believe Renee cannot handle herself on the water with the way the story is conveyed. In fact, we see she can row and manage many aspects quite well. The entire point here is we are still human and you don't need special training to interact with. There was an abnormal circumstance in the environment (as far as we know).
@whatthehellzgoingon
3 жыл бұрын
I definitely lean towards this being a romanticized world that while nice is unrealistic. But given that its a pixar short, I can deal with. In some ways romanticizing things seems to be the stepping stones for normalcy and then actual action. I think to how depression was put in either a romantic or kumbaya love pulls us together kind of light. A lot of characters had it and it ranged the whole line of terrible to good representation. But even with the bad representation I think it did a lot of leg work to bring it to peoples attention and normalized getting treatment for it and not just "getting over it". Autism is a weird one because its a spectrum. A highly functioning autistic person may relate to some things but these representations on the far end of the spectrum are not really representative of their particular life. So then is this representation for those on the far end of the spectrum? Many have intellectual disabilities so I don't know how many would even watch loop and really grasp the "their like me!" representation this is suppose to achieve. To me this feels just like those news articles, its kindness porn. Meant to restore your faith in humanity without looking at the reality of the situation and the difficulties it entails. But for a cartoon, I'll take it
@icantthinkofanything798
3 жыл бұрын
I had that same thought! I was afraid it was offensive to bring up, but isn't the camp counselor at least a little in the wrong for putting Marcus and René together with no supervision when Marcus didn't really know what to do? I mean they were stranded on an island for a while because René was hiding under the canoe, it's lucky Marcus knew what to do because if he didn't it would've been an even more needless traumatic situation for René.
@amberwarnke6434
3 жыл бұрын
I think the cousnsler should not have expected him to know how to treat her since he’s just a random person
@lucyandecember2843
3 жыл бұрын
@@amberwarnke6434 .
@deviantartest
3 жыл бұрын
This absolutely should just be the norm. To be treat everyone with kindness and love. I’m glad you’re talking about this in a slowed down way that makes the “inspiration p**n” problem.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
You'd think! Unfortunately, we seem to still repeat this with most marginalized groups
@gamingkitten7580
3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad loop isn’t just showing the “quirky” part or the bad part of a disability. It’s too common especially with “childhood” disabilities. I myself am not autistic so I can not comment on that part. I do have a set disabilities that is often poorly shown And has lead to a lot of jokes which are cruel. I know as a diabetic that the way it’s shown as “oh you can’t ever eat sugar that’s why you are diabetic” happens to be the worse. Autism spectrum disorder is often shown as ether fully negative or fully positive.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, disability representation in general is... not great. I'd love to see more nuanced representation like this.
@avettcore
3 жыл бұрын
My cousin is autistic and is pretty high functioning, however he’s had trouble with teachers not understanding his needs in the past and has some language difficulties and his intellectual age is behind his current age (aka: he doesn’t really act his age). He’s the absolute sweetest! Every time I see him, he’s always ready to tell me about his day and scouts. and this convo below is something he says multiple times per visit: John (not his name because of privacy reasons): Jane? (Also not my name for privacy purposes) Me: Yeah, buddy? John: You’re my favorite cousin. I love you. Me: *melts inside* awww, I love you too, John! I hope he never loses the spirit and kindness he has as he continues to grow up.
@taionalmeida5337
2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the two shorts, At same night, before sleep, with my girlfriend. I'm 36 and the diagnostic as an autistic person is something that came pretty recently on my life - since then i was looking for information and media stuff for a better understanding. As any other minority group, representation from a Far margin, is generally terrible. But about these two shorts ... I might say I felt something better. Prefered Loop over Floating, but I considered, in the end, that the message "The Park is for ALL children to play" important. The World is still Full Of prejudice but the father changed and now the child can play free. About Loop. I don't know, maybe I'm a bit like you on this short, but I genuinally think It was an honest effort. Both characters are relatable, there is a ponderation over the time and It takes from a person with Special needs to recover from their crisis - witch is a relief considering How much media tends to value the Idea Of a "Quick result action who fixes ALL stuff" ... This kind Of thing do not exist, at least for everyone, so I think is better to not put It on account when whe see situations Of crisis. As you Said the boy tries to share Her experiences and construct bridges for comunication and better relationship. But he is not a Hero, HE'S a person dealing the best he can with a situation he was not prepared. The non-verbal girl is, at same time, a person trying to have Fun in the cannoe. A person who share's a Lot Of feelings and even when whe had some stuff we don't necessarelly Get the same way as she (the app with collors and sound effect surelly has an impact over Her that most neurotypical people probably Will not Get) the framing Of the movie make's ALL this relatable. You understand Her joys and difficulties... At least, If not understand ALL the difficulties I Guess is enough stuff to empatize with Her. A short movie that, even If not perfect, i Will not lie makes my heart feel a bit more warming at the end Of the night. Your Channel is amazing. Keep UP the great job :) Greetings from Brazil.
@QuestingRefuge
2 жыл бұрын
Obrigado para um lindo comentário! Eu amo Brasil! 💚💛 (I apologize if I got this wrong I've been slowly practicing Brazilian Portuguese)
@taionalmeida5337
2 жыл бұрын
@@QuestingRefuge não se preocupe. Seu português está ótimo. É uma língua bem complicada quando comparada com outras ^^ Don't worry. Your portuguese is great. Its actually a pretty tricky language when compared to others. And, by the way, I Hope my english is ok too. We consume a Lot Of media, specially Here, with english subtitles for helping follow ... But when we need to write ourselves maybe some stuff sounds confusing :p
@QuestingRefuge
2 жыл бұрын
@@taionalmeida5337 Thank you! I can only imagine how difficult English can be to learn with its weird rules (or lack thereof sometimes). It's fascinating to see so many learn mostly from media. I know that is how my wife learned as well and she's also from Brazil. Which is why I'm always so happy to run into another Brazilian! Take care!
@tynishabradley7370
4 жыл бұрын
I loved it! Helps me understand my daughter better.
@QuestingRefuge
4 жыл бұрын
So happy to hear this too! Need more that doesn't just make parents afraid
@snowypanda6006
3 жыл бұрын
Omg hi parent!!! My mom has raised two autistic kids (me and my little brother ) by herself for my whole life so far so of you have any questions you can ask and i can relay them to her then have her answers relayed back to you :)
@SatireDepartment
3 жыл бұрын
I love this short, as someone with autism this is a great example. I like how they acknowledge they’re people and not just a thing with a disorder it’s a person that has just a different way of thinking. It’s not necessarily bad to have autism, it’s not bad at all- I’m saying this because recently I was called a retard in the term used as “Ree” which is a meme to mock autism. The person’s excuse is because I support a bad thing, I don’t I support the people, I treat them like people because me myself have some of their struggles that I have to deal with in my own way, and what’s stupid is that they compared it to supporting dementia which has nothing to do with autism, it was started by someone attacking someone who had autism then using the excuse of It’s a Joke and they didn’t see how it’s offensive, even though we kept telling them to stop and it was offensive. I talked to them but once I said I have autism and they said it’s bad and I disagreed they called me a retard. I’m not seeking attention I just wanted to let people know some stuff- sorry if this is long
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
I'm really sorry you experienced that. Especially to resort to using the r slur towards you. It would be nice if people were more willing to learn rather than buckle down into more bigotry.
@baldfatprincess2733
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sia, takes notes!
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE
@snowypanda6006
3 жыл бұрын
Wait what'd she do. I live under a rock and i don't listen to sia hardly so idk what's going on
@snowypanda6006
3 жыл бұрын
@@lile574 oooooooooooooooo tea
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798
3 жыл бұрын
@@lile574 so bad in fact it was even titled as a dangerous film
@kirbobirbo0446
3 жыл бұрын
Watching you talk about Float and Loop is a bit refreshing to hear, because those were almost my exact thoughts after watching those two recently. I haven’t been diagnosed with anything, and I have very little experience with people that have, because I was always afraid of the exact scenario you described. I would hate to have someone think I’m only friends with them for publicity or compliments, and it still happens to this very day. Hope that makes sense, English isn’t my first language and I’m pretty bad at explaining in general.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
That makes perfect sense. I think we have to not think about that too much and just do what we genuinely want to do. But that can be hard with anxiety and other pressures
@k4r4k0
4 жыл бұрын
Hey! This was great to listen! Your explanation about inspirational news was well done and in no point I thought you were implying that liking such things is wrong! You had a great way of criticising it as a whole and I never thought of them as harmful! I do admit that I am getting tired of seeing the non-autistic person as "the hero" or "the shepherd". It is weird because I have been in that role (but never because I wanted to). I remember so clearly when I told my friends how my boyfriend dealt with his meltdown. He does not get them usually so I wanted to share how well he dealt with it. I was surprised when my friends started complimenting me for being "such a support" and "a good girlfriend". The tone of the responds astounded me. Because I wasn't the one having the meltdown and trying to go through it? It was weird to see how *I* became Hiro and my boyfriend.. Was Sandy The moral of story: I never thought how wide spread this mentality was until I started talking openly about my boyfriend's autism. After realising that shorts like Loop irritate the heck out of me.
@k4r4k0
4 жыл бұрын
Someone here in the comments dpoke about how the character should be thought of first before the decision they have autism. And I agree!! Which is why I believe there are so many headcannons which character is autistic and which not. Usually made by fans themselves who have autism and can relate. It is really interesting to see who are usually seen as autistic / fans have a headcanon of such charavter being in the spectrum. It also shows the variety of autism as a spectrum: From Peridot from Steven Universe to Miles Edgeworth from Ace Attorney.
@QuestingRefuge
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It can be so difficult to talk about things at more of a systemic level so I'm so glad to hear that came across. I think these things become so normalized it's hard to even see it's there in the first place. I hadn't thought of this until now, but your story makes me think of how I might get praise from random strangers for doing basic things as a dad like just being outside with them or something. It feels so weird to get high praise for something like that. Wishing you and your boyfriend the best. Sounds like you have a really supportive relationship!
@k4r4k0
4 жыл бұрын
@@QuestingRefuge Hi! Thanks! I think it is odd to hear a compliment when something you made is as mundane as going to grocery stores. We don't see it as a big struggle or something to be complimented about, so when we hear compliments it is odd. I think the worst compliment for me was when someone told me how "brave" I am. Because I am dating.. A man who happens to have autism. It really belittles my partner as a human.
@TrueLadyEvilChan
4 жыл бұрын
@@k4r4k0 Hi! Thanks for listening to my comment! I definitely understand the frustration of your partner being belittled-even though I am currently not in a relationship... The worst thing that had any "public association" with autism is that stupid anti vax thing... as though such vaccines can cause someone to develop autism... even worse, make it sound, if it were true, as though autism is a "fate worse than death" (because of not being vaccinated). It's frightening how ignorant or... Frankly confused and stubborn some people can be especially over something that is factually inaccurate and or morally questionable. What some people will go to their graves over... this is the world we live in and likely why so many lives are unfortunately lost when they could have been helped... People are afraid of what they don't understand. And they can become feral, hysterical and vehement in their beliefs if they don't take the time to educate them or others.
@k4r4k0
4 жыл бұрын
@@TrueLadyEvilChan I cab't fisagree with what you are saying. It is true that many are unaware how wrong they are when talking about autism. The antivax thing was so so stupid. I do hope that we as species will develope and realise that not everyone is same neurologically and that is ok. I hope we would do less research WHAT causes autism and more how autism works and how we could help people who are deep in the spectrum make their lives easier! And thanks for commenting on my comment! I couldn't see yours through my phone :")
@randomotakunerd
Жыл бұрын
As a person who's not autistic, but was non-verbal for my first school years and have to live with agoraphobia my whole life: Dear god, is it awful to have to deal with people when you aren't able to communicate and I really related to the awful feeling of people speaking for you and treating you like a prop. I really like how people are starting to actual see non-verbal people as actual people who can communicate in other ways and adapt to the other person (Fun awful fact: My Speech Therapist when I was a kid BANNED me from writing responses to her questions or to talk to the other kids in therapy. The one positive thing is it made me love books and writing from an early age). I hope more stuff like this comes out.
@nibelheimnixxus
4 жыл бұрын
This is definitely a sign of things changing if it wasn't the case those stories wouldn't even be made in the first place. Those things take time, step by step. We have to recognize that for it to change, the story have to speak to the "Hero" audience because they are the one that needs to change, it's only then that some of them/us will reflect on their own behaviors, see and do things differently. I do feel like right now, it's about making people comfortable with the topic of autism (Float and Loop are good examples of that). It will come a time where stories will be made and autism wouldn't even be the theme of the story but just a story that happened to have an autistic hero and that will be a victory. Storytellers (movies, comics, videogames, books etc) are aware of this or at least those who are deeply connected to this topic and I can assure you they are working on it. Those things take time to be made but also to be seen by the mainstream audience.
@QuestingRefuge
4 жыл бұрын
I think you're right. I think the worry is sometimes things kind of stall in the area of telling the story for the "Hero". Looking at other types of marginalized groups we can see this. I am hopeful that all of these groups are kind of working together to make momentum for all of them though because we are seeing more experiences push on society.
@kitsutilo
3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see a change happening. When I told my friends about my bf the main focus was that I'm a "normal" person and he is autistic and that i am brave to do soething like this. No I am not. First of all I am autistic myself, people just tell me that I am not because autistic people behave in that one specivic way (I suppose the experts who diagnosed me are wrong, because i am not the stereotype, lol). Second of all. Autistic people are humans too and deserve to be treated as such. Besides he is the most caring person i know and we complement each other perfectlyl. I am not a hero, this is just what a healthy relationship looks like and i feel as if "you're a hero for being in a relationship with someone autistic" implies that autistic people can't be good people and can't be in healthy relationships. And to that i say: fudge off and educate yourself or I'll poke you! >:|
@kadeorade5296
Жыл бұрын
I never saw the short before this video, I just watched it relight Bettie the video and it made me so happy! You rarely ever see Marcus’ perspective of Renee’s meltdowns, when you do they’re followed by Renee’s perspective of it! It was executed so well, it’s just so similar to my experiences- which I don’t ever really see! I noticed that when Marcus called Renee intense it was immediately followed by an apology, because that’s the right thing to follow it up with! It’s all about Marcus seeing her as a person and a friend, rather than trying to show how “weird” or “distracting” she is. I’m trying so hard to think of anything I don’t like about it and there’s just absolutely nothing, it’s all so good and it made me so happy to see, I’m just so glad that there are people who saw this that didn’t understand before that now do understand, because it helps in real life, because this is a very accurate portrayal of autism, maybe not for absolutely every autistic person, but it is for some, so it is.
@greenhairedfae
4 жыл бұрын
You did a good job of talking about representation here and some of the consequences of not having very much. It's difficult to gauge what you do end up getting when that is sort of all there is. I look forward to seeing more videos from you.
@QuestingRefuge
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@BlueyHeelerHere543
Жыл бұрын
I love how Pixar actually accommodated an autistic person and captured on what they actually are feeling and didn’t make assumptions on what they thought they were feeling.
@shiedakayn562
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy that they reached out to ASAN for approval of their representation. That's so important.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely! It should be a bare minimum reaching out to an org like them!
@clairejones624
Жыл бұрын
I’m not non-verbal however, the tunnel seen was sooo relatable. It’s painful and I wanted to cry.
@jessieblakely7492
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a diagnosis for anything yet (my therapist is working on getting me tested) but I love the way loop portrayed overstimulation because that’s something I struggle with a lot and it was a way for me to tell my parents, “this is what I feel when I have to leave the room at dinner with earplugs in and my eyes closed.” It just makes the conversation that much easier
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
It can be so difficult to describe these experiences to others who don't have them! Glad this short has helped in that way
@midnightgir6
Жыл бұрын
I really liked this short. I also liked you including the article. I never thought about it like that. I've never gotten a diagnosis, but I think I'm autistic. I sometimes have a hard time reading the room and I don't feel comfortable being touched sometimes. Renee does remind me of some of the kids I've worked with. I liked that Marcus seemed to become friends with Renee after the canoe trip.
@drenvara1843
3 жыл бұрын
in my opinion, marcus's role is more about the viewer idenfication and example. At first he acts how most people act towards autistic people, he's ignorant, hesitant, judgemental. He doesn't know how to act, and the fact that the man at the beggining doesn't tell him anything about rennée adds to this ignorance, so he has to learn about her himself. He then starts to be curious, understanding, and sees things from her point of view. I think the message about marcus is "you, too, might judge people too fast, try to learn about them first" About Renée, some people say she's not an accurate representation of autistic people, but autism is different for everyone, and even if I don't want people to think that only people who act like that are autistic, I think pushing her autism to some extremes was necessary. It's clear that Renée is non-verbal, she's sound sensitive, touch sensitive, and more things that are CLEAR to the viewer. It's a great way to show some autism traits to people who don't know about it, the repetition of the sounds, the need to touch the plants, the need to get out of the tunnel because of the echo, all of this was clear to the viewer, we understood how she felt about it and how much she needs it. It's telling the viewer "if the person repeats sounds, let them do it, if the person needs to get out of some situations, help them, if they need some time alone, let them have it" ( One last thing, Renée doesn't like to look at people in the eyes, and at the end she looks at marcus, I just thought it was sweet to see her making efforts as well )
@OfficialCourtesyCourtie
Жыл бұрын
This is the sweetest video I have seen. I am a autistic therapist (In Training) you validate and love this short film by Disney the way I do... I adore this film so much. This is why I love Disney. They understand people like you and me. I'm also of mixed race decent and seeing a W/COC (woman/ child of color) as a autistic character is so uplifting and inspiring towards people like us is badically intellectually beautiful. In so many ways. Thank you for uplifting this film and its award worthy efforts.
@QuestingRefuge
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kindness! Hope you're having a wonderful day and best of luck getting through the training - I know it can be rough with some of the things ingrained in the system but I'm sure you'll help to make it better
@ABCQTBREB
Жыл бұрын
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@RentingSpam
3 жыл бұрын
I think this film is such a great step towards representation and inclusion. However, I think one of the biggest takeaways from this film is the understanding that communication with both the world and others can happen in ways that many people would consider to be unconventional. That's something that is overlooked so much and something the real world needs to understand as well. Just because people who are nonverbal don't "speak" doesn't mean they're not communicating. Perhaps we're just not listening to their way of communication.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
So much this!
@racconsoup
3 жыл бұрын
im autistic and semi-verbal, i relate very hard to the character in loop, on days where i need the same thing she gets from touching the grass, playing the sound on repeat, and do the same hums and movements she did to tell the guy she needed something, i felt so comforted the first time i watched loop and kept rewatching it. i even reacted the same way she did to the phone sound, to the point i searched for it for myself to do what shes seen doing in the film. i like how she was protrayed and i like the little details they put into loop (edit: im also dyslexic, so here i am correcting my mistakes)
@allorapaterson5175
3 жыл бұрын
just watched the movie,, and OMG the audio was so good! the way they show audio stimulation (the good & bad) was very well done. It did it in a way to make the viewer feel the same way the character did! I'm glad I watched this before I found the movie because I would've never watched it otherwise. Im glad that autism, in most varieties, are becoming 'normal' and respected in film :)
@one_smol_duck
3 жыл бұрын
When they consult ASAN and not Autism Speaks 😍😍😍
@tiffanypersaud3518
9 ай бұрын
Just saw Loop with my mum and loved it. We were both captivated. It’s great media to show people that people are different. On the basis of “not your business”, yes it is. I might not need to know someone’s specific condition, but I need to know how I can best serve them. I served teens with specific needs before when their parents dropped them off at camp. And I got angry with my supervisors for not preparing me. They misinterpreted me demanding that I needed to know about the teens’ conditions. And I explained to them I didn’t. Service is not cookie-cutter. You need to know what to do and if you’re harming them more than helping them. It doesn’t always need a training diploma. But a little heads up would be nice especially when you don’t want that person having an awful experience when they’re just out there trying to have a good time. I like that in Loop, it’s shown the boy is not thrown with her out of the blue, but he already knows her and knows about her. He is reluctant to be with her because she is nonverbal, and I loved that the supervisor trusted him enough to be with her. And that she trusted him and was able to from a bond with him eventually. I also loved that they got an Autistic person to voice the character and made an environment comfortable for her to do so. Those are great strides in the industry and it means a lot not only to nonverbal people but to all the rest of us.
@TheRealDaisyTDM
3 жыл бұрын
It’s actually kind of fitting in my opinion, to be honest I am on the autism spectrum however it doesn’t affect me as much, because of this I am able to talk like a normal average person, the only sign of my autistic disability which is the unique part of my personality, is that I do stemming, intent to play things on an actual loop, and to be honest, my autism only affects my imagination, which I see isn’t invented since I’m a creative person, although I don’t get disturbed by loud noises unless it’s a high-pitched music note playing, those hurt my ears, i’m just glad the Pixar along side with people who specialize with the autistic community were able to make this animation, because it’s actually showing the positive side of autism since the media tends to show its negative side which I do not like one bit, it’s rude, it’s disrespectful, and I don’t like it, and loop actually address The positive side to the media(for once), it’s like a negative weight been lifted off my shoulders and other people in spectrum too, it’s a really great short film 😁
@sonicfan82
3 жыл бұрын
I can relate to you,on the part that I am verbal and it affect my daily routine.
@KristianGab
3 жыл бұрын
Loop is such a great short! Really like the Pixar sparkshorts, they are really well made and manage to tell such important stories and messages in a very short amount of time. Great video! Your channel is very underrated honestly!
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
I have loved most of the Sparkshorts too! Feel like we're seeing a lot more experimentation. And thank you so much!
@haleycopans296
Жыл бұрын
As an autistic person I LOVE loop and extraordinary attorney woo. In EAW Though the actress is not autistic she does an amazing job portraying autism. I see myself in woo young woo and I love the show
@caileyrookids
Жыл бұрын
I'm autistic too. I'd never heard of Loop before this video and just went to watch it. I'm mostly fully verbal, so I didn't feel a strong sense of "I relate," but it still feels very meaningful to me and makes me hope that maybe I can accepted somewhere other than the small community I've built for myself.
@IratusEris
3 жыл бұрын
it's nice of pixar to make this film, as an (probably) autistic person myself it's really hard to explain how much loud noises and unclear statements make me extremely distressed and why I can't really concentrate on stuff easily and why I tend to have a strange behavior sometimes. Also it's really cool they included people of color as protagonists in this one AND brought an autistic person to partake in the production of the film!!
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
I know exactly what you mean about the noises and unclear statements. Can be so stressful!
@sirenagu9394
2 жыл бұрын
From Turning Red If I see Ming telling the story as a panda, almost ruined and mad at parents, Mei’s hurts herself as a meltdown but her parents don’t scold her not to do that,Mei’s rage to Mr K while friends take her to bathroom talk about mom’s duties, complaining the money goes for the 4 town, hurting others at the birthday party Guess what from Sparkshorts “Loop” I’ll put Renee’s meltdown multi language for good
@totallynotapersonlol
4 жыл бұрын
My new favorite! I love how you point out the inspiration porn happening! Love the message!
@QuestingRefuge
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@BananaBug
Жыл бұрын
1:24 ... nooo NOOOO SURELY NOT XD as someone whos autistic and went to a special school this is sooo helarious to me XD I mean firstly the news I watch mostly talks about world events and polotics and stuff maby thats in like a small local town news papper but still thats so helarious XD
@meta5175
3 ай бұрын
As a probability high masking and cannot unmask person, I felt extremely uncomfortable the first time watching it that I was pinching myself, but what I felt was along the lines of, why can’t she “control” herself! I’m so embarrassed! Oh no she’s “bothering” him so much! And imagining myself just shutdown and be frozen and go home and never go this class again… it reminds me of all the uncomfortable moments that I’m extremely exhausted but force myself to go through everything just not to be “abnormal” but actually be dead inside and dissociating, it makes me sad and frustrated about my self hatred and why are we and our needs are seemed as weird and bothersome by social standards and we have to push through things all the time😢
@bunnymcbunny4327
3 жыл бұрын
if someone had sat down at lunch with me or invited me to prom that would have been news worthy to me *sad laugh*
@generalveers9544
Жыл бұрын
An example of it done right that I love is Tech from Star Wars: the Bad Batch. He pretty clearly has Asperger’s or some kind of high functioning version of ASD and they don’t really touch on it at first but in season 2 he gets into a spat with another character because the other character doesn’t understand why he seems so nonchalant about a loss their group experienced, until later when he points out that he still feels the same way, he just processes things differently. That was great because I had *never* expected to see neurodivergence talked about in Star Wars
@EriksGarbage
3 жыл бұрын
Broke: Music Woke: Loop
@Kylometers0
3 жыл бұрын
How the hell do you have 3.5k subs?? Your content absolutely slaps
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@Kylometers0
3 жыл бұрын
@@QuestingRefuge no problem m8 ,hard work and good content should be acknowledged
@bn6p556
3 жыл бұрын
those news articles you talk about are like posts about people saving an animal from off the streets which is dehumanizing in itself but but it also questions that persons competence and makes it seam like the Nero divergent person would be helpless in our society if it weren't for some saving grace.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right! It's disturbing on many levels.
@Elliottrwar..
Жыл бұрын
Sia: I'll just pretend i didn't see that
@BrianaLynn7
3 жыл бұрын
She represents the two non-speaking autistic teenagers I work with pretty well I think, and I rarely see that kind of raw representation of them.
@Something5451
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. When articles showcasing human kindness to disabled people are written as exemplary, it points out the fact that these actions are viewed as going above and beyond, and not the status quo. The narrative needs to change. In most media, disabled people are used as props, which is why I hope to see more like Loop.
@gaiagruel
Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for this for schizophrenia. Im so tired of feeling that im evil (i rlly like horror films) and yet, still wont contact anyone woth it., so it also spreads misinformation everywhere, even if it doesnt out right say that the character has it at all, its implied. And thats what deludes NT brains.
@sarahgray430
3 жыл бұрын
I'm on the Autism Spectrum, and my problem with inspiration porn is that it's all about neurotypical people feeling good about themselves for doing a good thing, and you never see the other side of the story (no headlines reading "Autistic person puts up with an overly touchy feely chatterbox for several hours" et cetera) and it's good to see a film about Autism that at least TRIES to represent things from the autistic person's perspective. Speaking from personal experience it's sometimes embarassing and irritating when someone treats me like a "special project", but I feel I am just as capable of helping others as they are of helping me and I want to contribute to society, so when someone makes a sincere effort to behave in a decent fashion I reciprocate as best as I can.
@voluntaryextinction8710
3 жыл бұрын
"Autistic person puts up with an overly touchy-feely chatterbox for several hours" Lol this is certainly worthy of praise I can barely deal with any amount of this kind of behavior and Im, not even on the spectrum.
@sarahgray430
3 жыл бұрын
@@voluntaryextinction8710 I know...but people commonly assume that being chattered at and grabbed and poked makes people on the Spectrum feel "accepted" and "included" even if we tell them otherwise.
@mo0ny._satvrn
Жыл бұрын
As someone who has been diagnosed with autism in 3rd grade, I agree it’s hard to find..
@Rigiroony
3 жыл бұрын
My mother worked with special needs individuals when she worked at a school. I showed her Loop and she was really impressed by it.
@LilyYuriko
27 күн бұрын
I have a non verbal autistic sister. The short film was actually very accurate, the stimming, playing a sound on repeat, mimicking the sound, the noises the Renee makes, the breakdown, it was all so accurate. Especially the other kid getting frustrated with her. I'm so happy that it's not being portrayed like garbage :D
@urarakaochaco790
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with the title, I don't have autism but I do have ADHD and it's so hard for me to find any representation that isn't 'crackhead energy kid' or where they just decided to make a character on a sitcom who's chaotic suddenly be diagnosed with ADHD, good representation is hard to find
@twistedghost3585
Жыл бұрын
As someone with autisum i can relate to her alot but also im on a difrent side of the spectrom. I am verbal but woth the overwelmd noise
@Memelord2020
3 жыл бұрын
Loop > Music
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
💯
@buddyman1990
10 ай бұрын
I'm a high school para educator. I was THOROUGHLY impressed by not only the representation in loop but the level of respect for Madison from the other characters written into the story. Tbh, Madison actually reminds me a lot of one of the students in the classroom I work in ❤.
@dakingofyeet4541
3 жыл бұрын
Its hard to represent *all* autistic people, considering we live on a spectrum.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely! But we can see if it adds in some way. One specific piece of media won't be able to fill all representation needs.
@acinemalens
4 ай бұрын
The intention of diversity and representation is a good start, but the way these media delivering is true to what you say: treating them like objects I enjoy this short video, really feels personal! Will check out more of yours!~
@QuestingRefuge
4 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy!
@amethystrose1888
Жыл бұрын
I think maybe telling Marcus she's autistic would be necessary information??? I'm autistic and I know how hard it is to be the person who has to be "dealt with," and it's at least a little easier when people know it's not within my control.
@katerynlopezshiranui6661
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm Katy, I'm an autistic adult and I really liked Loop. I also repeat sounds and words to feel good. some people have been cruel to me for doing it.
@QuestingRefuge
Жыл бұрын
Those people suck. Hope you have some people who are more accepting around as well! Our household has a lot of people repeating sounds like that 💜
@katerynlopezshiranui6661
Жыл бұрын
@@QuestingRefuge Now I have with me people who accept me and accompany me with much love. I am happier after knowing that I am AUTISTIC 💕
@Blooperssss
Жыл бұрын
Even tho I’m not autistic it feels really nice to see an autistic character who isn’t “quirk” or stereotypical, so many times when a character has a disability or a disorder there always so unrealistic in a way? Like they give the character let’s say autism and than makes there whole personality a whole stereotype of how autistic people ‘act’, when in reality autistic people can act like them but not everyone single person like that will. I also hate when newspapers and such have something like “popular guy hangs out with black kid” it makes me so angry that there just adding that detail, because it’s not the ‘normal’ and it has to be said to be more interesting, when in reality not every black/mixed kid will be like bullied and such, it just makes me really angry (it’s also the fact that I’m black and neurotic person or however you say it) i just wish that they’ll use the word more lightly instead of just using it as some to ing to grab peoples attention.
@avaarrow7478
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I feel you. Only, I AM autistic (undiagnosed), and I agree with everything you just said. Including that thing about the races. It’s like, “bro?! Why does this even matter? Yes, it’s good they treat them with human decency, but it’s pathetic that it is headline worthy!” And, even with that, people still laugh when someone who’s very clearly neurodivergent freaks out. It’s sad to know that I know better how to help then my teacher probably. Also, the thing that you’re thinking of is neurotypical.
@Blooperssss
Жыл бұрын
@Ava Arrow tysm, I forgot the name of it lol. And I completely agree with what your saying!!
@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4811
Жыл бұрын
@@avaarrow7478 I agree, it shouldn't make headlines when someone makes an autistic person feel heard and like anyone else. We should treat people with respect and be mindful of others and give people space when they need it.
@christianmeile1466
3 жыл бұрын
i love this vid, because besides explaining a great message, it'll also help me analyse stuff in my language studies...
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that!
@mimipinkdot
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Loving the discussion being had in the comments section too.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And agreed have been very grateful for such great comments!
@assassinunknown6664
Жыл бұрын
If you award someone for treating a certain person like a human being, they’re not gonna do it out of kindness I’m gonna do it out of greed or attention
@ughugh3767
Жыл бұрын
Loop is a good first-step into Autism representation and I’m all for it. But I find it funny, as an autistic person, that her noise-machine made me freak out and bothered as I’m overwhelmed by alarms and other buzzing sounds lol
@QuestingRefuge
Жыл бұрын
haha sorry that one gets to you! It can be interesting navigating the different confliction sensory issues we all have sometimes
@mothwood4781
Жыл бұрын
Also something really important about having Marcus not be a " hero " is that this kind of behavior with acting as though being friends or even just tolerating an autistic person is so hard is also often promoting the idea that caregivers that abuse their autistic children or patients are justified. It's really frustrating.
@blaineyeamlak
2 жыл бұрын
“Miranda” is actually Madison (I don’t remember her last name) and she’s from SF
@QuestingRefuge
2 жыл бұрын
You're right! Thankfully someone corrected me earlier I've left notes about that. I still can't believe I messed that up in the recording
@nancymcmonarch
Жыл бұрын
Madison Bandy, and she actually lived in Oakland when this was made. Sweetest young woman you could ever meet.
@ksmart1235
3 жыл бұрын
I'm autistic myself and I like Loop
@eu3801
3 жыл бұрын
Love how you used inspirational p*rn to compare. The media needs so much more representation of autistic people who need a lot of assistance in their daily lives and not just quirky savants. Maybe they could’ve done better by showing a side of Renae where she shows her ability to help others instead. I hate that autistic people, especially nonverbal and ones with other intellectual disabilities are depicted as ‘dumb incapable babies’ when they can have perspectives that are so much more mature than many neurotypicals.
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a longer film or series of something like you're describing!
@TrebleKurt
3 жыл бұрын
It is great to see Autism Representation like this and feel satisfied with it coming from someone who is autistic myself. There are a couple of movies and shows that are trying to make that attempt, but this one is better. Great video, bro.💯💯💯
@QuestingRefuge
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Hoping we see more attempts like this one.
@Fizzymilkshakee
Жыл бұрын
I soon wanna see a headline like: "boy asks autistic girl to prom! She said no!"
@BurntSushi.
Жыл бұрын
I'd pay money to see that
@Fizzymilkshakee
Жыл бұрын
@@BurntSushi. I'm going to edit that onto a news article
@QuestingRefuge
Жыл бұрын
YES! I'd love that lol I'm sure that would never get reported or somehow would get framed as a "problem" of the girl
@LightBringer127_dragonart
8 ай бұрын
I’m autistic and one thing I really liked is how Marcus admitted that Renee was intense. It’s okay to find autistic people challenging, we are. I don’t mind when people get things wrong, only that they try.
@y2kona
3 жыл бұрын
the chad loop vs the virgin sia movie idk what its called
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