@@VTEC_RAT Sure did…. Looks like en extremely well maintained runway. I fly in and out of much worse on a daily basis.
@hobie1613
Жыл бұрын
The runway is totally fine. It was poor judgment from the pilot as to why they crashed.
@simpilot001
Жыл бұрын
This runway is fine. The pilot made an error
@Coops777
Жыл бұрын
A grass take-off in that heavy six cylinder aircraft with little pavement wheels was always going to be long. Add to that the sprinklers near half way causing ground softness and extra drag. So glad everyone was ok
@adub1300
Жыл бұрын
No flaps either. Should have been in short field configuration and he would have been airborne before the obstacle.
@Coops777
Жыл бұрын
@Adub 1300 Agree. Also, it seems the pilot became fixated on the liftoff and appears not to have looked at performance versus remaining runway
@glennwatson
Жыл бұрын
70/50 rule. If you haven’t gained 70% of your take off speed in 50% of the runway abort.
@CessnaPilot99
Жыл бұрын
@adub1300 I would put flaps down right before rotating. They just add Drag on the takeoff roll otherwise
@RandyMarsh-nu6lo
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@HoundDogMech
Жыл бұрын
There is a 70/50 rule If you are not at 70% of your lift off speed at 50% of the available runway shut it down and try again.
@shoebetya
Жыл бұрын
Standing water on the runway?
@RJ-sr5dv
Жыл бұрын
Try again…?, Try flaps.. reduce weight, wait for cooler temps etc.
@LudditePower
Жыл бұрын
If you own 70% more than 50% of your IQ, don't fly a plane.
@rylandallas9907
Жыл бұрын
Flaps 10 deg in those conditions
@lostindixie
Жыл бұрын
That's only true 40% of the time. The other half depends on wind direction.
@usmale57
Жыл бұрын
I own a Lance I. This is a Lance II. Soft field, no flaps, T-tail (a very bad design on the Lance II) and a pilot that did not calculate the distance required for take off (having failed to do the first calculation, he would have failed to calculate weight & balance as well). This accident occurred before he even stuck the key in the ignition! I'm glad he was OK.
@StupidusMaximusTheFirst
9 ай бұрын
I was gonna say this. You don't just go and wait forever till the plane takes off. What if it doesn't? Silly.
@thud9797
8 ай бұрын
@@bb-skyBecause of poor planning and a late decision.
@nuclearrabbit1
18 күн бұрын
I have about 3500 hours in Lance's, from bank check days. Both T's and straights. Those T-tails were always a little tricky. I didn't like them near as well as the straights.
@alyx8522
Жыл бұрын
"he gon reck it" was the best part
@skwabo
11 ай бұрын
Yep he wrecked it.
@federicom8765
Жыл бұрын
Flaps are critical for additional lift earlier in the take off roll- which is exactly what you need when grass is slowing your acceleration
@pantherplatform
Жыл бұрын
Flaps are for bots
@mjisurdad
Жыл бұрын
@@pantherplatform flaps are for clapping 👏
@thewhitefalcon8539
Жыл бұрын
Technically you only need lift at the end of the takeoff
@federicom8765
Жыл бұрын
@@thewhitefalcon8539 true on pavement where drag from the runway is minimal. Not true on grass with small wheels where you want to minimize the weight of the airplane (ie increase lift) as soon as possible on the roll because that full weight on grass is holding you back - big time!
@patrickhill7862
11 ай бұрын
@@thewhitefalcon8539 you want to take off faster tho
@RRICKYSPANISH
Жыл бұрын
Someone should tell him about flaps
@Tavarish21
Жыл бұрын
I’m glad a lot of people saw that he wasn’t using any flaps especially on grass 😵💫
@seanjordan8233
Жыл бұрын
Beat me to it.
@wandery2k
Жыл бұрын
thot i wasn't seeing what seemed obvious...
@johnsenetto7935
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, does the pilot have a license?
@jayeean3890
Жыл бұрын
He must have skipped that class on Soft/Short Field techniques! Flaps anyone? Slight back pressure on the yoke anyone?
@asawyer2872
Жыл бұрын
Flaps would have prevented this all day long.
@JohnDoe-yj5ng
Жыл бұрын
Some people need to get to their destinations real fast!
@tenpiloto
Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but you don't know that unless you have the performance charts, a/c weight, obstacle data, wind, and density altitude at that time.
@joshastana849
Жыл бұрын
@@tenpilotohe’s taking off on grass. He needs flaps.
@mylzmckibb8271
Жыл бұрын
10o all day. It was the first thing I looked for when replaying it.
@trin162
Жыл бұрын
@@tenpilotoyou can clearly see they had no flaps deployed for takeoff
@joemomma3572
Жыл бұрын
No flap on grass???
@alwaysflying6540
Жыл бұрын
I Said the same thing
@leeliddle7021
Жыл бұрын
My opinion too. No flaps caused the accident.
@skyediamonds5654
Жыл бұрын
I agree. Any pilot with common sense taking off of a runway made of wet grass with a 20-foot obstacle at the end will use flaps set for short field takeoff setting. What is not known if he also employed soft fiend techniques combined with short fiend takeoff.
@maxwellbutler1022
Жыл бұрын
Glad someone else caught that
@laroudoune
Жыл бұрын
I saw episodes of air crash and I was amazed at the number of fatal accidents due to pilots forgetting to put the flaps in the take-off position this is the first thing that any pilot must do before any takeoff after start-up flaps flaps flaps
@lasereyes555
Жыл бұрын
Dude didn’t do his homework. It’s gonna be a very expensive lesson.
@Loillpopx23
11 ай бұрын
Why I’m pysical tonight
@crazypilot4017
Жыл бұрын
He probably didn’t practice soft-field take off with flaps, during his PPL days. 😎
@pantherplatform
Жыл бұрын
Ppl bot
@SirFloofy001
11 ай бұрын
Since it isnt mentioned, the "obstacle halfway down the runway" was about 4 inches of water pooled across the runway that sapped his speed.
@dan3162
Жыл бұрын
No flaps and partial throttle or a problem getting to full throttle…self inflicted
@zernid
Жыл бұрын
I was looking like he has no flaps set
@paulsilva3346
Жыл бұрын
I agree I noticed no flaps as well
@shoebetya
Жыл бұрын
OK yeah but...hidden obstacle?..was it the standing water?
@shoebetya
Жыл бұрын
@bigteam6919 Sprinklers would have undoubtedly made soft ground..but it looks like there's a couple times when the spray coming up from the tires..pops up...did hitting berms of water..large puddles..arrest speed? Including other factors..
@adub1300
Жыл бұрын
Unfamiliar wet grass runways call for short field takeoffs every time. This plane was in a clean configuration as if it was on pavement. He was not set up for success.
@TB-um1xz
Жыл бұрын
You mean soft field takeoff
@TB-um1xz
Жыл бұрын
@@BigLucs soft and short are two different methods.
@kombolasha
Жыл бұрын
@@TB-um1xzto hell with getting stuck, I’d pick short field and get off well before the muddy mess those sprinklers are bound to make.
@TB-um1xz
Жыл бұрын
@@kombolasha I guess you don't know what a soft field takeoff is.
@joshuac2594
Жыл бұрын
@@kombolashasoft field and short are both 10 degrees of flaps, but soft is yoke back until you see the plane wheelie up, then release a little yoke and as the plane lifts off, push the nose down to gain speed before climbing out above the obstacle. Short field is a normal take-off with flaps, but much more ground roll, which isn't necessary on a wet runway like this. No reason not to do short field.
@ja-is2lf
Жыл бұрын
Pilot forgot to plug his brain in the night before for a full charge.
@adotintheshark4848
8 ай бұрын
probably got a good lay and was too busy remembering it instead of thinking about his plane.
@christianjforbes
Жыл бұрын
Those pesky elevation changes will jump right out when you least expect them … It’s almost like there should be some directory of airport facilities or something … if only that existed
@rohanbaty3155
Жыл бұрын
Hey that s a good idea! You should make a book of em all or somethin
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
Жыл бұрын
@@rohanbaty3155 book? LOL, I’m 51, you must be older than that if you think “books” are still used. 🤣🤣
@court2379
11 ай бұрын
But it's downhill. That helps you, not hinders.
@shark3744
11 ай бұрын
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 I just had to use a book full of chart supplements on my PPL checkride 😅😅😅
@jgreenberg
Жыл бұрын
Short/soft field takeoff procedures really need increased emphasis in initial training nowadays.
@latexhague8267
25 күн бұрын
It is people just forget about their importance and get complacent
@tharin4prez586
Жыл бұрын
I lived in a small neighborhood like this in North Pole AK. I very much liked NOT having to pay airport & ramp fees
@RamblerMan68
11 ай бұрын
Which was your favorite reindeer? 😂
@davidrasmussen2975
Жыл бұрын
His wallet had a “really bad day.”
@mline250
Жыл бұрын
Turbo P32R. They require a stage of flap for a normal take off. And the T-tail model has less control authority due to being positioned above the slipstream. Unfortunately, sluggish acceleration is sometimes difficult to detect. Pre-takeoff safety brief should cover this. Possibly used to flying off long, paved runways. Short, water logged grass strip had the odds stacked against him. It’s a terrible feeling when you know you’re running out of runway.
@anthonygutierrez9108
Жыл бұрын
His flaps were no set so he got no lift
@steilkurbler4973
Жыл бұрын
Planes can take off without them, just takes longer. That's a problem when space is limited.
@FinnACurran
Жыл бұрын
@@steilkurbler4973When getting your ppl you practice soft field takeoffs and landings. You are supposed to deploy flaps and not be in a clean configuration. This pilot is at fault
@steilkurbler4973
Жыл бұрын
@@FinnACurran That's right, but the wing generates lift no matter what the ground surface is. Soft fields just have much more drag to overcome to build up airspeed. IIRC the rule of thumb was around 40% than hard surface runways. You can still take off without flaps, it just takes way longer, which is a problem when space is limited.
@RandyMarsh-nu6lo
Жыл бұрын
That’s not how aerodynamics work…
@FinnACurran
Жыл бұрын
@@RandyMarsh-nu6lo extended flaps do generate more lift, but they also induce more drag.
@porkorosso7885
Жыл бұрын
T/O Flaps????
@reknas78
Жыл бұрын
First, don't try to take off in mid day. 2nd, do your performance take off calculations. Lesson learned
@MyDailyPerspective
Жыл бұрын
First rule as a pilot....FLY the plane.
@sniperfire346
Жыл бұрын
In his defense. If I was unsure whether I'd make it past the trees in the air, I'd rather hit them on the ground.
@ZC.Andrew
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Aborting was a good decision. It was the only good decision, but the most important one.
@Kassiusday
6 ай бұрын
@@ZC.Andrewwell is not that after a certain V speed you are obliged to rotate with some aircrafts ??
@QuinnButler-ww1iv
Жыл бұрын
A few things wrong with this I believe. I haven’t read the AFM for this aircraft but most soft field/short field takeoffs require flaps as well as using as much possible usable runway. Then holding the breaks and using full throttle until manifold pressure and rpm are stabilized at full before starting takeoff. Plus grass adds to your total takeoff distance depending on what it says in the AFM.
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
Жыл бұрын
You can’t really hold the brakes on grass. It will drag the wheels.
@cdncitizen4700
Жыл бұрын
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 The premise is still sound... rev up, hold spot ... release for max distance. Also FLAPS ! (Engage flaps partway down the runway if you need to get speed early)
@tailwheelflier
Жыл бұрын
That was my airplane, it was my pride and joy, life long dream plane. My friend destroyed it and I lost $70,000 . Never under insure your plane
@Hunter-sj9cm
Жыл бұрын
Oh man, I can feel the pain in your comment. Are you still friends?
@kwittnebel
Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear. Good lesson about insurance.
@RIP5582
Жыл бұрын
Sorry friend. Hope some things go your way.
@WALTERBROADDUS
Жыл бұрын
Had your friend operated this aircraft from that field before?
@treeman5263
11 ай бұрын
I love how the people just calmly say “ he wrecked it” like it happens every day 😂
@alanbbrady8196
Жыл бұрын
That's a golf club . Not a runway. As a pilot who knows a lot of drunken surgeons ....I know this .
@Darkvirgo88xx
Жыл бұрын
Better then him panicking and rotating then still not clearing the trees and stall spinning it into the terrain. So that was the better decision he made.
@OneMouseGaming
Жыл бұрын
One hundred percent. A ground base, the board beats taking an emergency into the air below V1 rotation speed. As others have said, there's an error on display here by not having flaps deployed. But the judgment in aborting the take off was smart.
@solovoldo
11 ай бұрын
And that's why, you don't hire crop dusters from craigslist
@chuckmanofgod
8 ай бұрын
I know that for larger aircraft that gave two or more engines, there is a speed called V1, meaning that you must either have made a “go” decision for the takeoff or already taking action to abort the takeoff. I think it’s different for the small lightweight aircraft that have only one engine. There must be a point to where once you meet certain criteria in terms of speed and distance, you must continue with the takeoff.
@muzlp
Жыл бұрын
A proof that not all pilots has all what it takes to carry the responsibility of flying hundreds of passengers in an airliner
@kaitlinjohn3625
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't you walk the runway first? Like if I'm not sure my car will clear a bump, I go check it out, and thats driving 2 dimensionally - I'd probably be out there with yard stick and surveying tools if I had to lift a plane off a grass strip
@crowbaril903
Жыл бұрын
Looks more akin to a golf course than anything the FAA would designate a “runway”
@davidhames319
Жыл бұрын
Should’ve used 10 to 15° of flap
@renatinhoalb2002
Жыл бұрын
He should use flaps for take off
@peted5217
Жыл бұрын
Stupid is as Stupid does
@johnhughes1783
Жыл бұрын
When your drunk neighbor wants to show off his plane.
@YOLO_Raya
10 ай бұрын
Sadly I know someone who died in a plane crash 😢 R. I. P.
@Legendaryloll583
Ай бұрын
Yez😢
@piper0428
Жыл бұрын
taking off in wet runway will quickly dimish take off distance
@ZC.Andrew
10 ай бұрын
I think you mean extend the takeoff distance. Lol. Having no flaps also does not help. Bad combo.
@annepanganiban9376
3 ай бұрын
T
@A.Human.A
Жыл бұрын
"UNFORTUNATELY NOBODY WAS HURT" HELL NAH YOU'RE GOIN IN HELL
@foe1dragnov871
Жыл бұрын
He said Fortunately
@A.Human.A
Жыл бұрын
Yeah he modified the video
@hillbilly4555
11 ай бұрын
Taxi on grass, that’s like skydiving without a parachute
@Blu-pi5zo
Ай бұрын
“He gon’ wreck it.” “Yep he wrecked it.”
@davidhoffman1278
Жыл бұрын
Part of flight planning is comprehensively studying the runway chart for elevation changes before takeoff. We've got a 10000 foot runway and it's got a few up and downs along the way. When it's very wet it affects the aircraft's takeoff and landing rollout. Yes, it's grooved, but that doesn't do much when we have relatively high volumes of rain coming down per second. The fastest jets can have the most aggravating time trying to smoothly decelerate.
@rn2811
Жыл бұрын
And who knows what the outside air temperature was that day.
@VWdabug
8 ай бұрын
At least it wasnt like the botswana crash where 3 people died after a plane crashed into a building
@ninethetwotailedfox
7 ай бұрын
“He gonna wreck it” why did i get reminded of ralph from that movie
@Baguette1424
Жыл бұрын
Poor guy, that outta cost at least 50-60,000 dollars right there
@Cronoxus1
9 ай бұрын
"Fortunately nobody was hurt" The plane itself: WELL THANKS
@oerlikon20mm29
Жыл бұрын
Another reason why helicopters are superior
@Beatzfus1on
Жыл бұрын
For a minute there I thought there was going to be a spinosaurus
@scottstempmail9045
11 ай бұрын
That "runway" looks like a disaster waiting to happen.
@jarrodforet3557
11 ай бұрын
This is why you don't smoke a doobie before flying for a second tyme
@allencoxx5739
Жыл бұрын
“He’s gonnnnnna wreak it”😂😂😂😂
@grumpy3543
Жыл бұрын
That big spray coming up about halfway through the takeoff run is proof that those sprinklers caused a flooded area. That is standing water which increases drag significantly. That could have made all the difference if it was dry.
@jones616
9 ай бұрын
When in doubt, don't. Especially in flying❤
@potterwalker4823
Жыл бұрын
Tower: clear for take off . Pilot: uhhh, we fucked up !
@thesturmvogel6359
Ай бұрын
This is a classic example of not having planned the takeoff, no matter how routine Prior planning prevents piss poor performance
@Misanthropic9294
10 ай бұрын
My mom worked at one of these neighborhoods in Florida. It was a really trippy set up to see in person
@387brooklyn
11 ай бұрын
“Unfortunately” no one was hurt.”
@robertvaughn7036
6 ай бұрын
Flaps!? And yes, I'm a pilot for both: helicopters and fixedwing... just makes sense!
@nicc2366
Жыл бұрын
The runway is a big problem too, alongside the plane’s gear of course. There should be an emergency stop net at the end to avoid this because it could’ve ended badly.
@olddog605
Жыл бұрын
Pablo's runway did about the same thing in Columbia. Aero Commander pilots had some serious vision problems (so I read)!
@markreed2576
Жыл бұрын
The Piper lance has a squirrelly elevator and is not forgiving with low speed and short runways.
@rickhernandez9672
Жыл бұрын
Online pilot classes!!!!???....😂
@joshuac2594
Жыл бұрын
Idk what the winds were, but the tree line at the side he left from were way shorter lol. Flaps obviously since it's a soft field. Idk what the POH says for his plane though...
@EduardoDudu-kw6yr
Жыл бұрын
“nobody was hurt” the pilot: am I a joke to you?
@lovejetfuel4071
11 ай бұрын
Should have been a short field takeoff, which I'm pretty sure it wasn't, as you can see the flaps are fully retracted
@biopsiesbeanieboos55
Жыл бұрын
Trust your charts. By law every aircraft must have a POH, which will contain takeoff charts. The charts are heavily factored and include runway slope, wind, temperature, density altitude etc. If the chart says the aircraft will make it, THE AIRCRAFT WILL MAKE IT.
@thomasmccombs5314
Жыл бұрын
His private license should come under question and maybe taking away from him and not ever giving back to him
@Just-Steve
Жыл бұрын
No flaps.
@romankalinchuk2750
5 ай бұрын
As other people mentioned, he should have flapped his wings like a bird. You can see as he's passing by, he is not flapping his wings
@Potatoincanada201
20 күн бұрын
“Where you can taxi up to your own front door” Taylor Swift is going to find this completely normal 😂😂😂
@joeblowjohnny2297
Жыл бұрын
A little turtle wax ? You back in business boss ! 😂
@VinnyUnion
8 ай бұрын
Why is the "hurt" part always almost universally mentioned in every type of vehicle accident? Jeez it's agitating
@Strahan740i
Жыл бұрын
I like how they worded the video's script so when it loops, the dialog continues naturally :)
@cl5258
11 ай бұрын
Thats why you do performance calcs before takeoff if there is any doubt whatsoever
@bryanr8897
Жыл бұрын
Airpark in Texas? Take a look at the density altitude my guy!
@Spartan536
2 ай бұрын
Soft field takeoff's usually require the use of flaps plus MINIMAL nose pressure, unless the POH states differently. When doing a soft field takeoff you lift off at rotation speed and hold ground effect until you can build up speed to hold Vy. If its s short soft field you use the Vx climb out speed and hold until clear of obstacle and decrease flaps incrementally holding a positive rate. I did not see any of this from this pilot, also looked like no pre-takeoff briefing, and the pilot should have calculated their takeoff performance prior to the flight.
@PatHaskell
18 күн бұрын
It’s great that you have English subtitles, except I can’t read English.
@dino1.0
8 ай бұрын
He gon wreck it -Some random southern dude 2023
@sccrothers77
7 ай бұрын
If you're unfamiliar with runway, how about taxing down the runway first. Assess requirements. Then attempt take off
@SnowingNapalm
Жыл бұрын
being too timid is a thing ya gotta be confident enough to hit full power and pull up❤
@nategoodwin3329
Жыл бұрын
That was one hell of a snowball of errors. Glad everyone lived.
@thekoupekid
Жыл бұрын
All the drugs on board was too much weight for that runway.
@-jollb-
10 ай бұрын
thanks goodness for this narrator I wouldn’t know what was happening🙏
@harrison00xXx
9 ай бұрын
This pilot was just a rich kid without experience
@barthslung
11 ай бұрын
Bet that dude's bank account was hurt
@mistermystery1999
10 ай бұрын
For a soft field takeoff you need 10 degrees of flaps and you need to put the plane into ground effect to gain airspeed
@johnendalk6537
Жыл бұрын
When you can't tell if you're in a plane or a car. It do be like that sometimes.
@Workerbee-zy5nx
Жыл бұрын
Short grassy runway, t-tail, maybe density altitude or poor planning crunched that poor bird.
@Jonyvoid
10 ай бұрын
Folks saying this isn’t a good runway, it’s beautiful and far more than adequate for these types of aircraft.
@REB4444
10 ай бұрын
See, he wasn't stubborn, nor arrogant, and didn't let his EGO get in the way and lived to see another day. This should be a training video for all future private plane pilots.
@logicturtle9838
11 ай бұрын
The pilot aborted early enough not to lose his life. We're all human. Even experienced 5,000 hour pilots are prone to make major mistakes. The pilot got the most important part right, and that involved deliberately crashing it. There's nothing 'instinctive' here - many pilots have died in similar circumstances, being mentally unprepared to call such a decision.
@schaind11
Жыл бұрын
Wrecked him? Damn near killed him.
@keithrickson8522
Жыл бұрын
A lot of unqualified arrogance in this comments section. Unless you know the exact model of aircraft that this is, have read the specific hanbook for it and know the soft field takeoff proceedure, you probably shouldn't be on your high horse about flaps and taking the pilot's licence away and such. Maybe start off by reading the NTSB report or something basic.
@CharlesGervasi
Жыл бұрын
The Southern accents stand out juxtaposed with the narrator's Canadian accent.
@smilnjac
10 ай бұрын
That “T” tail design on the Piper 6s was a disaster. We even referred to them a “T Terrible”. Probably not much of a factor here but no propwash over the stabilator was not a help.
@tomasalvarez6040
Жыл бұрын
For all the people saying that flaps wouls have prevented the accident; ..im assuming that what you mean to say is: treat this as a soft-field take off, set your flaps, apply brake, max throttle, release brakes, apply back pressure, get your wheels off the ground asap, fly in ground effect , then upon reaching takeoff speed, pull back and fly Vx
@ChaseB1896
Жыл бұрын
This is wrong, you NEVER apply brakes and stop on a soft field. I hope you’re not just mixing together short field and soft field together. Soft field you constantly roll and never stop so you don’t potentially get stuck in the grass….
@tomasalvarez6040
Жыл бұрын
@@ChaseB1896 (duh) yes, you are absolutely correct..i mixed both up!! Thankyou
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