I have the 170, I've shot 7 cases of paint through it, no barrel breaks, no chops, no problems
@ictorvich1920
5 жыл бұрын
This was the situation I was faced with,but settled with the 170r
@ethanpelagalli
5 жыл бұрын
Ictorvich definitely didn’t settle, great choice!
@ictorvich1920
5 жыл бұрын
Ethan Pelagalli hell na but I was stuck on what to get.i realized after I posted that it sounded like it was my only choice and it was like an “ok I guess it’ll do”which wasn’t the case lol
@ImLiterally.Him.
4 жыл бұрын
Do you regret your decision?
@ictorvich1920
4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Perez naa the 170 is chunky enough to fit in my hands good but the xls is pretty sweet also.went pe cuz of gamma core
@cam_p_bells
4 жыл бұрын
I have both but I’m mechanical versions. M170R & Shocker CVO
@kylekincade09937
2 жыл бұрын
I'm probably getting the 170 and buying a freak barrel for it. Best of both guns.
@freddukepoo3359
2 жыл бұрын
I’m going to get the 170r and HK army laser barrel kit.
@v.e.s2884
2 жыл бұрын
170r all day I try lots off guns and 170r is a monster better then my luxe
@62saki91
2 жыл бұрын
The 170r shaft barrels has different size barrel bores on the stamped part that goes into the gun. Same concept as the inserts, different delivery method.
@jakebewley7232
2 жыл бұрын
It’s higher now😥 can I get a coupon
@gotlumpz4upaintball447
5 жыл бұрын
Fresh out the box I played in 30 deg weather with my XLS. No issues at all.
@supremeleader2739
5 жыл бұрын
I'd say one thing to take into consideration when comparing these markers is how well the gamma core handles different environments, like the cold for example, not dissing on the XLS, it is an amazing marker, but overall I would choose the 170r
@JustIn-op6oy
4 жыл бұрын
As far as guns go - I already have a full freak kit. I like the ergos on the 170 better and I have always been blown away by Planet Eclipse products. It's an easy choice, though that isn't meant as a slight against the shocker. They shoot great but aren't as comfortable in my hands. One little strange detail - I actually prefer eye covers that require tools. Removing the fasteners and taking eye covers off is so simple it's a non-issue for me.
@JustIn-op6oy
4 жыл бұрын
I had an eclipse LED that was an amazing backup for 3 seasons. That thing ALWAYS worked. Also have played with Eclipse cockers (mech and e-blade), an Eclipse bushmaster, and egos. Every single one performed flawlessly. I seriously regret not grabbing an Aurora Eclipse cocker with both the e-blade and hinge/swing trigger frames.
@CS-bh4ur
4 жыл бұрын
Planet eclipse for me just because of their AMAZING maintenance guide!
@ounkdfdq7134
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ryanpatteson1309
4 жыл бұрын
I would pick the 170 r. I like to cup the bottom of the front grip a bit since I have big hands and it's not comfortable to do that with a pointed front grip. Though the trigger on the xls is spectacular.
@buzz9296
2 жыл бұрын
Can you fit the freak XL barrel on the 170r?
@EAZYCOUCH
2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@austinistex1462
3 жыл бұрын
Should I get the shocker xls or the gtek 170r
@djpepelp.97
4 жыл бұрын
Well which one would require less maintenance if you play every month?
@xGLITCHESx
5 жыл бұрын
Have had my XLS since relace day and im yet to change an o ring, i love this gun super smooth and reliable plus only needing buy inserts instead of barrel backs is a huge advantage over any other gun
@brianjohnson6164
3 жыл бұрын
Def the 170
@yfnhbmd
4 жыл бұрын
Might be a hot take, But I did not like the way my shocker shot at all. I could’ve had my expectations too high, but it wasn’t for me. I shot a hopper and a pod and immediately sold it lol
@EatYourImagination
4 жыл бұрын
I changed my detents to the green ones in the spare box kit and loved how it shot afterwards.
@topdoug6613
5 жыл бұрын
Finally just ordered my 170
@fouriignboyyadan3999
4 жыл бұрын
Was it a good gun
@ohyeah2565
4 жыл бұрын
FouriignBoyyAdan too expensive for me I’ll wait 4 years
@jeremydeansausages1985
4 жыл бұрын
Are you happy as hell or just whatever about it?? I'm about to buy one of these and bot sure which to get
@Rosinfiend
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@ttboosted7634
4 жыл бұрын
Better barrel (XLS) Vs Better Core (170R)
@Rosinfiend
3 жыл бұрын
Better core because than you can just put a better barrel on it
@dirtbikequadfreaks4767
4 жыл бұрын
I want to upgrade but can not decide between these markers what would you guys go with
@shyanbethune9959
4 жыл бұрын
Gtech 170 R I have one i’ve shot it I think it is way better I am also shot The shocker and if you compare above I think the Gtech is way better
@chaseklein774
4 жыл бұрын
From my understanding the 170r and XLS is the same marker just a different design and Board right???
@joshuamullins189
4 жыл бұрын
Chase Klein no they are different companies and these are the markers that are closest in price range thus the comparison.
@chaseklein774
4 жыл бұрын
J Mull I know they are different companies. But everything that I have read and heard from everyone that has shot both they have said they are very identical...
@gesser4325
4 жыл бұрын
I am thinking about getting a 170R, but I believe i would prefer the "S trigger" over the blade trigger. am i able to put an s trigger/delta trigger on a 170R?
@GlassesGuyVT
4 жыл бұрын
I've been looking everywhere for an S trigger for my 170r do you know where I can get one?q
@stevenwebb583
4 жыл бұрын
@@GlassesGuyVT Any of the CS1 triggers will fit the 170R, so find a CS1 S trigger. A quick google search will show you where to get them.
@evanfrechette6437
3 жыл бұрын
yes
@carlowens2193
5 жыл бұрын
XLS is better package. Come on PE stop selling your markers with .689 barrel.
@GodOfWar109
5 жыл бұрын
Eh. Overboring doesn't hurt anything in a open bolt
@AudaciousAce1989
5 жыл бұрын
"Just because paint is getting smaller in America doesn't mean its getting smaller all over the world" -Jack Wood in a Q&A. In the same Q&A Ledz said that a bigger bore is better for bad paint and paint swelling from humidity. And if you only have 1 barrel you want one that works for everything. Thats the logic behind PE's overbore barrels.
@mathewa.4032
5 жыл бұрын
AudaciousAce Gamer AudaciousAce Gamer You’re not getting bad paint if you’re in a tourney, and if you’re a world wide player you better have different bores to accommodate different paint sizes. Since paint is getting smaller then it makes sense to package your marker with a smaller bore size. No excuse for PE packaging the largest bore other then expecting a lot of noobs buying their markers and crappy paint.
@AudaciousAce1989
5 жыл бұрын
@@mathewa.4032 I don't think you really read what I said. There IS an excuse for PE to have bigger barrels and I'll explain why again. Just because paint is small in America doesn't mean its small all around the world. PE is a big company and sells all around the world. If you put a small bore barrel with the marker, then some people cant use it because thier paint might swell if they play in hot/humid conditions, or if they're using normal sized paint. If you put a big barrel with the gun, anyone can use it, it just might not be perfect for smaller paint. Cmon. Its a barrel. It doesn't make that huge of a difference unless its a crap barrel. A tournament player obviously has a good enough budget to get a better barrel, its not a big deal.
@mathewa.4032
5 жыл бұрын
AudaciousAce Gamer I’m just stating that the XLS is the better package coming with the Freak which you can just buy all the inserts for to perfectly fit the paint to bore no matter what the conditions are. With the 170r your stuck with an over sized bore. Can you buy a Freak and stick it on your 170r sure but now you’re at $900+ invested in the new gun vs a $750 gun that already comes with it. Your bore size is important if you want to shoot ropes with whatever paint you’re shooting. As far as the actual shot both guns are almost identical. Only nod I can give to the XLS is that it is a slightly more quiet shot. Very similar to a Luxe in terms of shot sound. The board on the XLS is slightly better too.
@jeremydeansausages1985
4 жыл бұрын
I do live the trigger on the xls. I'm stuck on which o wanna spend the cash on. Its driving me crazy. I'll probably get the 170r because I can swap the bolt to the cs pro. I wonder if I can upgrade to that trigger form the xls
@_MrBread
3 жыл бұрын
from what I understand the GP core is milled differently, it’s milled larger hence the lower operating pressure, also the bolt guide and tip is different and so as the seal, but i’m more curious as to where you’re going to get the GP core. I know you can buy a different bolt, but not the entire core itself.
@jeremydeansausages1985
3 жыл бұрын
@@_MrBread hmmmm. I guess it's not gonna be as easy as I thought.
@jeremydeansausages1985
4 жыл бұрын
Can you buy the barrel after market n put it on the 170r?
@Rosinfiend
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@michaelpujda8407
5 жыл бұрын
Ah! This has been the biggest struggle, trying to decide between the two. I even shot a hopper full with each. Still can’t make up my mind. Both have their pros.
@Itssconnorr
4 жыл бұрын
Michaël Pujda which one is more smooth?
@harleylindquist8141
4 жыл бұрын
i am going to pick the 170r because you can switch out the cs2 pro bolt for it
@brucecook502
5 жыл бұрын
170r. i like the eye system, no tool required, and can be cleaned with water no worries about shorting anything out.
@ashravenpb
5 жыл бұрын
you shouldn't be cleaning any electro with water. Even if its water resistant, it isn't water proof
@justinschuyler
2 жыл бұрын
This was so biased towards the xls. I own both and the 170r wins hands down. Tool less battery access, tool less eye access, low rise feed neck, pops asa, Gama core, and much easier to swap over to the mech frame. The 170r also has a smoother shot in my opinion.
@thewolftitangg
5 жыл бұрын
After this I’m going with the XLS
@B-rad00
4 жыл бұрын
Both are great choices
@CSULA21
5 жыл бұрын
PE for days! I've got a GTEK & a Stealth! No problems whatsoever. Might even get a 170R just to have the option of a mech trigger.
@sasuke_x_naruto4670
5 жыл бұрын
I really want the 170r but now your making me want that shocker hahaha damn you !!! Great video keep it up guys. I'm learning a lot
@jeremydeansausages1985
4 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same situation right now
@jeremydeansausages1985
4 жыл бұрын
What did you get?
@sasuke_x_naruto4670
4 жыл бұрын
I got the 170r but had to sell during peak of COVID
@Bradley.borg99
4 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the 170 exact same colour also
@chrischu9551
4 жыл бұрын
Have an Etha 2 and a CVO. If I add another mid range marker to my gear it's going to be an XLS for sure. I like the platform enough to have a dedicated mech version and the electro. Shot wise they shoot just about the same with the slight edge to the Shocker for the softer shot
@2ssilence281
3 жыл бұрын
I sold my E2 and getting a used xls in the mail Monday. Yeeeeeeee
@BigJohn5352
5 жыл бұрын
I have both guns I really like the 170R but I got to go with the XLS
@Kim.Elusive
5 жыл бұрын
Liar
@ak-loz
4 жыл бұрын
Why's that? I'm trying to decide between the two.
@Kim.Elusive
4 жыл бұрын
@@___meph___4547 not dependable at all so many of these type of guns have broke down at my field @ victory paintball park in camp pendleton
@socomtaupe4784
5 жыл бұрын
I felt like you owed us a more serious demeanor for once.
@PaintballGargoyle
3 жыл бұрын
Tony, Is this colorewy available on LWP’s site?
@johntrek187
5 жыл бұрын
Please do PE 170R and the DYE DSR. Please. Those 2 look very similar in performance and price range. 1 is DYE's 2018 NT equivalent it seems. A divisional work horse which pro players are using and over the M3 i might add. The other seems to be, quite literally a less expensive CS2? I'd very much like as much info on both and a comparison from THE BEST paintball KZitem channel. For real man. You guys the best. Thx you in advance.... Also looking quite regal with the glasses today fam. Thx, love peace and chicken grease....
@TrentonGauthier
5 жыл бұрын
If you're willing to get used, it seems like the DSR would be an awesome choice. I love the colored O-rings. Else, it seems half a generation behind.
@captaincrisis7157
4 жыл бұрын
Recommend the 170r or a luxe ice?
@walkerbarry4036
4 жыл бұрын
I own both and I enjoy the XLS for it's got better ergonomics (in my opinion) for speedball
@icecoldrugby
4 жыл бұрын
How about a review on how the markers operate, and not just aesthetics?
@nicholassmith7723
4 жыл бұрын
Aren't the new shockers basically using an ion core?
@rickieedwards8946
5 жыл бұрын
How many times have you given Jake the double finger whammy?
@blazzer73553
5 жыл бұрын
Who cares jake is a total douche bag.
@georgemartineziii3855
5 жыл бұрын
How so we get some of the Marker stands?
@williamfmclaren
5 жыл бұрын
was playing in a tournament and a friend of mine was playing with the XLS and his bolt flew out while he was shooting...very odd...havent experienced that with a 170r
@geth547
3 жыл бұрын
The groves are not super required if you shouting a $750 gun I think you should have gloves
@EAZYCOUCH
2 жыл бұрын
Lots of players choose not to wear gloves. Even if you have gloves, they can still get slippery when they get covered in paint.
@jacksrandomreviews7064
5 жыл бұрын
based on dependability g-tek
@tonygreen6944
4 жыл бұрын
What are the best settings for the 170R
@riderfast3444
4 жыл бұрын
I can’t find it for 750. Everywhere it’s 799
@nickedits438
5 жыл бұрын
I was last shooting an 08' Ego around 2009.. what nowadays would be a big upgrade from that, 170R? Open to anything, not really tied down to any company in particular..
@LoneWolfPb
5 жыл бұрын
Either of the markers in this video or a Luxe X or CS2 depending on your budget.
@blakeharvell2926
5 жыл бұрын
I don’t have to choose I own both and love both of them and switch back and forth but my XP’s has seen more use obviously since I just got my 170 two weeks ago
@TrentonGauthier
5 жыл бұрын
Jealous! Did you get mechanical frames for either? Also, could you do us poors who have decide a big favor and weigh each without the barrel? No one online has that info but seems like the PE might be as much as 100g heavier.
@sxavier8684
5 жыл бұрын
Which is more quiet?
@MrIoanni
5 жыл бұрын
@@TrentonGauthier just lift bruh
@liljames7420
5 жыл бұрын
170 is gonna be my tourney gun
@xXD4Rke4PeRXx
5 жыл бұрын
Only nerds were glasses
@CSULA21
5 жыл бұрын
wear* you may want to rethink this comment.
@built4u2
5 жыл бұрын
Steve Acevedo nerd
@CSULA21
4 жыл бұрын
@@built4u2 Much appreciate it!
@D4S_BRZ
4 жыл бұрын
i think paintball is way too expensive now and the sport is dying because of how expensive it is getting. all these brands are overcharging.
@trevorjtorres
Жыл бұрын
It’s been like that for 20 years
@trevorjtorres
Жыл бұрын
If anything it’s better now. At least u can get decent guns like the mini or czr. It used to b either spider/ion. Or 1400 for a high end marker
@davidstutz9893
5 жыл бұрын
Is the hose and battery placement a $250 differencr
@District522
5 жыл бұрын
David Stutz honestly not really, the 160r is still a great gat
@butttalkyes1741
4 жыл бұрын
xls is a better gun honestly, everyone who picks 170 is just a planet eclipse fan boy lol not that its bad gun but ive been playing with both shockers and egos sense 2005, seen both guns go down seen both perform great but if u had both ud know xls is the way to go.
@WadeGerencser
4 жыл бұрын
Shocker from this video!
@carlosancinez9116
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tony thanks so much for the awesome content, I wanted to ask you a question, I am looking between both Gtek170 and XLS, If both guns were the same price with same barrel which one would you lean more towards?
@evanhelm9968
3 жыл бұрын
170r
@freddukepoo3359
2 жыл бұрын
170r… such a smooth shooter. I have the hk lazr barrel kit, planet eclipse st3 soft bolt and infamous deuce trigger. I haven’t broke any paint and I’ve shot about 10 cases of paint (tournament paint).
@fubarunicorn5554
5 жыл бұрын
170 R
@r.w.7232
5 жыл бұрын
Yet another win for PE. .
@markeilynch8884
4 жыл бұрын
Gtek 170r
@Ohsrry
5 жыл бұрын
Lol ah whoever got an extra one ah throw it my way😅
@Paintball1212
4 жыл бұрын
im selling mine for 550 Shocker XLS all black. only used once.
@grahamkitcher1135
4 жыл бұрын
Alan_1212 I’m willing to buy that where can I find you
@havocross4171
4 жыл бұрын
@@Paintball1212 you still got that xls for sale
@tormund_gb1908
4 жыл бұрын
Yah but One works and one breaks a lot... this guy is obviously not a PE fan.
@qwedsawsqwwwww
5 жыл бұрын
There equal both amazing guns shocker is softer 170 more reliable in cold weather that’s it.
@ravenstylea2
4 жыл бұрын
qwedsawsqwwwww from my experience, when I shot a Shocker XLS alongside my Gtek, the felt recoil was less on my gun than the XLS. Now a 170R would be about the same or better due to a better air flow path from tank to regulator and longer hand placement than the OG Gtek.
@Thaggard_is300
5 жыл бұрын
14.5 inch barrel on the 170r
@vixzual2673
5 жыл бұрын
It also depends on what paint you use
@jonwcon79
5 жыл бұрын
XLS all day!!!
@rufusmedrano2962
3 жыл бұрын
170R
@ravenstylea2
5 жыл бұрын
The Shocker looks too fragile and the bolt is meh, but it has a really nice barrel; the Gtek is far better overall, better trigger IMO, stronger frame, foregrip, better feel, more efficient, more reliable and nicer feedneck. I just like it better.
@District522
5 жыл бұрын
ravenstylea2 personally I love the XLS trigger and overall feel of it more, it’s insanely light and easy to snap shoot. When I held the 170r it still just felt like a fat PE gun (I love PE) even though it’s nothing like the CS1, it’s just felt round and it kinda twisted in my hand. But that’s just my opinion and my experience with both markers
@District522
4 жыл бұрын
Joshua Ciardelli are you saying I’m trolling or the guy I responded to?
@parkerjeans5777
5 жыл бұрын
Seems like they are the same gun.
@jonathansmall2295
5 жыл бұрын
170r in my opinion
@freddieMorriss
5 жыл бұрын
170r
@davidstutz9893
5 жыл бұрын
If the 170R has the same exact bolt system as the original Gtek that I have, what is the purpose of spending pretty much an additional $250? @Lonewolf
@ashravenpb
5 жыл бұрын
Because it's hoseless and that's enough for the fanboys to buy them
@davidstutz9893
5 жыл бұрын
@@ashravenpb ur right too.lol. I'm the few that only cares about efficiency. If the gtek when it came out was good enough for pros to use over the CS1 and geo3 just cause and it performed. I wouldnt think about getting an expensive marker. I'd get a used Geo3 and use that over all these. Use that extra money saved on barrels, hopper or clothes
@lachlinselzer5134
5 жыл бұрын
eclipse
@jcpatton720
5 жыл бұрын
Shocker all day!
@JustIn-op6oy
4 жыл бұрын
"Do you wanna push up and slide it out?" - that's what she said
@topdoug6613
5 жыл бұрын
170R pro 1.planet eclipse brand 2.pops asa 3. Short feed neck 4.bolt 5.easy battery swap 6. Sexy mill work 7. Blade trigger 8. Eyes Shocker pros 1. Colors 2. Barrel
@xGLITCHESx
5 жыл бұрын
I would say the only thing better on the 170R is no tools needed to get to the battery and eyes, everything else you mentined is personal preference like Tony said
@jadensikute5529
5 жыл бұрын
lol what???? xls is way better 😂
@topdoug6613
5 жыл бұрын
Until you need to rebuild and sp is out of business
@topdoug6613
5 жыл бұрын
Everyone is a little upset they didn’t spend the extra money it’s ok your angry with your trash gun
@bazookaboy2377
4 жыл бұрын
BR probably hugs ball park hot dogs between his butt cheeks
@dabzpaintball4478
5 жыл бұрын
Rsx +software +freak xl+ grip =xls
@jasonlarson7013
5 жыл бұрын
big bob plus a longer bolt system giving better efficiency and shot quality 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
@dabzpaintball4478
5 жыл бұрын
@@jasonlarson7013 Not really all you need is The Sims out of a tank And bore your paint
@MegaSaginaw
5 жыл бұрын
You wish it work that way.
@dabzpaintball4478
4 жыл бұрын
@@___meph___4547 hey you're 11 months lost 😂🤣 no one cares anymore ...& I sold mine Customer service sucks too .
@dabzpaintball4478
5 жыл бұрын
I got my Rsx now all I have to do is download the XLS software & Throw a freak xl on it and bam xls😂🤣😂
@GodOfWar109
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah.... Not quite
@colingaramella6824
5 жыл бұрын
170 r all the way
@pureblood369
5 жыл бұрын
That's why I can't be f****** around paintball and a hobby one gun is my goddamn rent
@thomashrev
5 жыл бұрын
No one is forcing you to buy a new marker, I just bought myself a geo 1+ for 130 bucks, it shoots rope.
@alexcurtis2802
5 жыл бұрын
Shocker
@viktorstromar8297
5 жыл бұрын
First
@Richie_RHD
5 жыл бұрын
Second
@OGBastard1337
5 жыл бұрын
i have a brand 170r coming off the press, hopefully gonna get it by next week. Keep you guys posted, but wasnt much of a fan on the first RSX and have not shot the XLS
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