this is exactly what i needed. average flier, just coming into the whole flight aspect of the game and this series is a huge help. thanks for posting
@252V_Pyro
10 жыл бұрын
Did anybody notice the Liberator around 2:30, on the left side of the screen?
@MedicOnDutyVids
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out, had a good chuckle at it. What makes it even funnier as the camera comes back around (at 2:40 or so) you can see the Liberator is totally screwed.
@LordLuminor
8 жыл бұрын
Hahahha at 2:30 the Lib gets flipped by a Reaver and at 2:40 it gets shot by an tank, poor lib
@FinalHeresy
11 жыл бұрын
To anyone having trouble with this, and i don't recall him mentioning this. Rebind your Pitch up and down keys to something reachable. for example i have pitch up as Q and pitch down as E. That way when you're not fighting your sensitivity settings to do this properly. Hitting those buttons gives you maximum pitch immediatly
@Story_Anon
11 жыл бұрын
Excellent maneuver, I always had an inkling that something like this was possible after I noticed it was easier to skim around the dome of biolabs using this sort of turn than the traditional method. Great video.
@XxDevilsLettucexX
11 жыл бұрын
Wanted to send a quick thank you for your PS2 flight tutorials. Being fairly new to the game and extremely new to the flying aspect, these tutorials have helped me much in getting a jump on advanced flight. There are a lot of really good pixel pilots out there and starting fresh means little room for error. Thanks again for the helpful and well done vids :) Peace
@piuli95
9 жыл бұрын
THIS MOVEMENT IS ESSENTIAL! I played this game over 200 hours and i wondered why i cant goddamn learn to fly like others. It was all about this momevent, den i b'cum ace! THANK YO.!
@LinusProbst
11 жыл бұрын
I have learned this maneuve from another video, and used it all the time since. Really the fastest way to turn around. And it works on Libs too!
@LConnal89
11 жыл бұрын
essentially you want to be pulling down on you mouse to use the pitch down to help swing your aircraft through the turn. If you're having trouble may I suggest binding pitch up/down to buttons, preferably thumb buttons on your mouse. That way you simply hold S, roll your craft on its side and then press A/D (essentially in the direction you wanted to turn before you rolled over) and hold pitch down. You still need to correct the roll as you come around but that's a good starting point
@frydac
11 жыл бұрын
To make this easier, bind pitch down (and up) to am mouse or keyboard key, and use that for maximum pitching. This technique alone has greatly improved my uptime in the reaver.. Thx again!
@AL00ZER
11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial! btw, you should post part 2 as a video response to yourself to this video. Your flight videos will get more views easier and be easier to find. Would love to see your channel grow more!
@mrFFFox
10 жыл бұрын
3:35 explanation
@adonisalonso7779
10 жыл бұрын
thanks
@EdsEnemy
11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ironfist, I play with one of your mates on NC Mattherson, with the blue lions. Guilmon he's called, nice guy. Your tips have been very helpful to the outfit, especially when it comes to air cav training, just wanted to say thanks.
@mystech2125
11 жыл бұрын
For this turn you should be using your mouse to both roll and pitch. Roll onto your side, and basically pitch the nose of the aircraft down so that, were you level, you'd be doing quite a dive. That's the main force that's spinning the craft about, though the yaw (A or D key) helps things out a bit
@idc731
11 жыл бұрын
Yes! another video! ive been waiting :D
@LMSTVx
11 жыл бұрын
The swinging motion is a kind of directional movement of the mouse. Depending on whether you have your flight controls inverted or not. Its more of a trial and error thing and it depends on your approach angle. Keep experimenting till you find the right movement as I'm sure it differs from person to person. I will see about having a mouse cam in the next videos, although I'm not sure whether it will be more of a hindrance than a help.
@CountCocofang
11 жыл бұрын
Its not exactly as pictured in this video but my god is it easy that way! I bind pitch up/down to my secondary mouse keys and its a whole new feeling.
@whocares2kill
10 жыл бұрын
Technically speaking, a VTOL Aircraft like a reaver, mosquito, or any of the PS2 aircraft, this is quite possible, though the engines don't move fast enough in the game animations to make it look so. The G-forces on the body would be pretty intense
@Troubleshooter11
11 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the Apache attack helicopter or the A-10 attack aircraft. Ugly aircraft, but rugged and they make you soil your pants if you're in an enemy tank. :)
@elikei3349
8 жыл бұрын
2:30 is so funny
@LordLuminor
8 жыл бұрын
Hahahha at 2:30 the Lib gets flipped by a Reaver and at 2:40 it gets shot by an tank :D
@DJChiefX197
7 жыл бұрын
Classic NC
@Fiah9000
11 жыл бұрын
I haven't practiced this maneuver yet, but it looks like you you have to pitch down hard while you're banked over, then as you're completing the turn, you roll it to level out. Sounds like it would work perfectly with a mousebutton bound to pitch down.
@lolzomgz1337
11 жыл бұрын
I've heard this explained lots of times...and point 4 is always what gets me..."use the mouse"...? To do what? "Swing the aircraft to the left" ...? What's kinda like saying "use the thing, to do the thing!" What direction of mouse movement does that translate to? I'm confused...D:
@mchaney2003
11 жыл бұрын
Just so you know, this move is VERY, VERY simple to do with a pitch up / pitch down keybind. Just turn your aircraft on its side and press your pitch down key. Done. Thats it. It gets even easier if you bid Q and E to roll left and roll right. Then, just press Q or E for a moment, which will evenly roll your aircraft, then press your pitch up or pitch down key for a moment. This will execute a perfect banking turn. easily.
@bobbyras90
11 жыл бұрын
If it's not too much effort, would it be possible to have a video of you controlling the mouse in, say, the bottom right corner of these videos? I know for me, proper mouse manipulation is by far the most difficult part of flying. It would be a huge help. Thanks for doing these, they're excellent!
@halsed
11 жыл бұрын
Great vids - thanks for taking the time to put them together. Would be very useful if you referenced the key function (aka: roll right, break, strafe left) as opposed to the actual key (hold down 's') for those of us who re-map the default keys.
@SwagKidRazor
11 жыл бұрын
This video has helped improved my flying skills! Thank you good sir! I do have a curious question watching your video, I noticed when you practice the banking, it's always to the right, is this something you would say most flyers would stick to (banking to the right/left all the time) and if you anticipated it, would that still give an edge to the shooter?
@RoyAnderson
2 жыл бұрын
Very perceptive comment. :)
@Detril2000
11 жыл бұрын
This game's controls are so weird! Thanks to your tutorial I was able to do a noob banking turn, but it isn't useful if I can't stop piloting my ship straight into the groud! xD
@LMSTVx
11 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm back :) Been having some issues, but all sorted regular content is back on the menu!
@XShadowzVarcolac
8 жыл бұрын
Ironically i ended up mastering the reverse maneuver by accident when i attempted to practice a bank turn at a full stop.
@tehbloxxer502
11 жыл бұрын
Ok let me make this a little more understandable. When your aircraft is banked to the right. moving the mouse up turns the plane to the right. move the mouse down turns it left. So when you move it down it completes the turn as you will see if you do it in game
@tehbloxxer502
11 жыл бұрын
It took me about 5-15 tries to get this, maybe 20. And I experienced the same problem with the aircraft turning toward the sky when you attempt to complete the turn. Ok so here is the position of your turn. You have slowed down. You are banked. Now when you go to press A or D the aircraft just turns upward. That's completely normal and I'm using the weaver. To remedy this tell your move your mouse down(if you're not inverted) that will complete the turn.
@Sarasseo
11 жыл бұрын
in the future, is it possible to give small clips of it being the technique being in action? Great video as always though.
@ruedigersyt
11 жыл бұрын
Flying rookie dropped into home base, killing all. LOL :-D
@martininml
11 жыл бұрын
Dude, you're excellent pilot grats!! I have a question: How many mouse sens u use? Regards!!
@Huztl
11 жыл бұрын
I learnt this from another video, I'm not entirely sure it's the same thing, since i can't do the reverse manuever straight after, yet it turns on the spot 180'. Looks like this to bank to the LEFT. 1. Roll to the right with your mouse. 2. Press and hold Space Bar. 3. Press and hold both A and D key 4. Pitch down (Preferably with a key bindid to pitch down to get a clean turn) 5. Hold this until you are turned where you want. To bank right, roll to the Left and hold D key.
@JohnnyMaverik
11 жыл бұрын
I do that all the time xD Makes you feel like an idiot, trying to pull a banking turn and suddenly O.o... oops... hello ground...
@christonejazz
8 жыл бұрын
REALLY useful video. Does Stability help this maneuver execute faster? I've been running dogfight performance. It seems like either performance could help this maneuver, but the hardest part is when my opposition responds with the reverse maneuver in your other video. Thusly lending Stability superior to Dogfighting, in a dogfight. Any input on which performance performs well all around, as opposed to just any one form of air combat? (Again, GREAT video, really helpful :3 ).
@LMSTVx
11 жыл бұрын
I will be doing an episode on dodging A2A missles. Stay tuned :)
@Mark467
11 жыл бұрын
It's all about timing and when you hit your hover key (Space).
@Kevizyke
11 жыл бұрын
I think he's talking about the "Look up" and "Look down" keybinds under vehicle keybinds because those 2 things are not bound to anything.
@jeroenvanede
11 жыл бұрын
Happy thet you are back. I'd like to see missle dodge. The lock on missles where eazy to dodge but they made the misses turn faster. I dit do it a few times whit the banking turn then turbo. But it dint work all the time.
@markusminny9472
11 жыл бұрын
That is why u go to VR training and prac. it doesnt cost any resources and u take no damage
@Shivalyn
11 жыл бұрын
Clarification, and perhaps a video/picture in picture of your mouse/keyboard movements in the corner, might help future videos make more sense. For instance, I'm currently trying this but don't understand the 'swing your aircraft around with your mouse' bit and have nothing to reference. The only movement I can get out of my mouse is to make my aircraft roll or pitch up and down. I certainly don't want to roll and the pitching doesn't seem to swing me around, so I have no idea what to do.
@1Celebrindor
11 жыл бұрын
I think you should have uploaded an introduction video that explained everything you were trying to do. This would have allowed you to avoid beating around the bush and means that if we want to rewatch the video we don't have to listen to 4 minutes of explaining the series before we get to find out what you are teaching us. But good video
@MrThompyson
11 жыл бұрын
This dude doesn't fly, he dances in the sky.
@mauiwowie3538
10 жыл бұрын
he should have started by having everyone keybind pitch up and pitch down... you should only ever be using your mouse for light turns and aiming a full kill turn should be done with your keybound pitch down it holds a perfect line and is the fastest turn possible also the fastest kill turn is done with decelerating and pitch down when you add vertical thrust it makes the turn take longer
@MattiAceGaming
11 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a fellow pilot, keep up the good work. Thumbs up and +1 sub //MattiAce
@briareos-lawrence
3 жыл бұрын
Found this in 2021 but it still wery useful lessons
@shimaokku1814
11 жыл бұрын
Thx a lot, helped me out a lot!!!
@PicklesReallySuck
11 жыл бұрын
Do you stream or anything? NC on Mattherson always gets their ass beat in the air, I'd like to see some actual uncut, non-highlight, gameplay. I play NC as well, figured it would be easier to get strategy from real play.
@DrunkZergling
11 жыл бұрын
I agree "Swing your aircraft around with your mouse" is completely unhelpful.
@331benni
11 жыл бұрын
Good video,but i have a question about the certs of the reaver. Because i think your last cert video isnt up to date...cause the patches the armor of the reaver so can you pls update the cert guide Thx Benni
@Ifarmplasma
7 жыл бұрын
Yo LMS could you make a console version of these flight tutorial videos please, this kind of confused me on ps4
@Mark467
11 жыл бұрын
I can do this, the issue I have is shooting down the enemy ESF AFTER facing them. What use is a reverse maneuver if you can't shoot them down after that.
@walmartian
9 жыл бұрын
omg thank u for this,, playing it on the console beta
@Enkiev666
11 жыл бұрын
2:30 (see the reaver starting to fly and make the liberator crash) "..." *faceplant*
@27POP27
11 жыл бұрын
I don't think that this goes against all logic and physics like you said in the intro. Considering how the jets are turning downwards in a 90 degree angle, I see this acceptable to logic and physics
@Xemnashnz
11 жыл бұрын
thank you very much dude
@zack1e
11 жыл бұрын
sweet, thanks!!
@goldenbucket2484
5 жыл бұрын
Scythes are better when performing this manuever due to higher agility and speed.
@thecrush3r
11 жыл бұрын
By Zeus's beard, I've got it. :D
@lilkhmer5
11 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend racer airframe or the hover airframe on a reaver? I use the racer since the reaver has great vertical thrusters anyways but would u recommend the hover over that.
@GGShinobi77
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :)
@collindaley4909
7 жыл бұрын
Should we use hover frame or dogfighting frame for this? And what would you recommend in general.
@LMSTVx
11 жыл бұрын
My new cert video is completely up to date and relevant.
@Frodudus
6 жыл бұрын
So, what exactly is the specific motion you gotta do for that last step?
@richardashley3641
11 жыл бұрын
I use a stick and bank and pull up. huh.. I'll have to try this.
@Melonizeable
9 жыл бұрын
I can do the first three steps fine but when it gets to pulling back the mouse on the fourth step I need a runway for my mouse. The issue is I can't up the sensitivity unless I want my esf to be rolling for days by the slight horizontal deviation of my mouse.
@HotaruZoku
9 жыл бұрын
+Melonize I'm going to see if I can bind pitch to a couple of mouse buttons, and use them in these exact situations. Move the mouse to position the craft, but press the button for the full locked force to get through these big turns.
@turkishdelight5486
8 жыл бұрын
+Melonize If you have a gaming mouse, you can assign pitch up and pitch down to mouse button 3 and 4.
@Adenzel
11 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is a lot harder than it looks. Feels so weird as well.
@JohnnyMaverik
11 жыл бұрын
You make it look way easiest than it is -_- Had a bit of a practice this afternoon and after 20 minutes I got about as far as kind of being able to do it sometimes.
@thecrush3r
11 жыл бұрын
For the last 2 hours I've been trying to do this with no luck. I'me pretty sure that is all about the mouse movement more then the keyboard movement, so for the love of all that is holy show us a video with the mouse movements and spare us this horrible nightmare xD
@kevinsmith5437
10 жыл бұрын
So he says hit s to slow down before you roll over, but he's clearly not slowing down. What am I missing?
@Mathrigo666
10 жыл бұрын
I am absolutly too stupid to fly, i cant even do this. I better stay on ground.
@subhanbsb69
9 жыл бұрын
is it okay to use a controller like xbox1. im used to mouse with low sensitivity (to much counter GO :P) so I feel like flying with controller is better for me.
@harresdirksen1950
11 жыл бұрын
Are you using inverted mouse or up = up down = down?
@Brokkolesz
11 жыл бұрын
I like it. Armored and powerful looking. Too bad it isnt armored and it isnt powerful:C
@stefanmitrovic2763
2 ай бұрын
Can this still be done in 2024? :). I can not do it with vanu scythe :(
@thebritishpillock9625
7 жыл бұрын
Can someone please explain how to do step four as I can slow down bank right and hold a but if I swing my mouse in the opposite direction it just levels me out I really cant seem to get the hang of it.
@tehkky4456
11 жыл бұрын
I have managed to do this in my scythe from a stand still but not while moving. What purposes do the A and D keys serve for this motion? I have managed to do it using only the S key and pitch down. I can do it with the A and D keys as well but I don't know what they are for. I still have to work on getting the timing right to do it after stalling my forward motion.
@nimble5692
7 жыл бұрын
Video starts at 3:36
@LMSTVx
11 жыл бұрын
You can do this turn in a completely stock aircraft.
@soku890
9 жыл бұрын
Aaaah fuck flying where is my tank?
@1337b3nnyvav00m
11 жыл бұрын
@Teh Kky it sharpens the turn and elevates you. Once u turn the craft on it's side, the thrusters that a and d control are facing down. It sharpens the turn. Same purpose as the spacebar except the a and d ate esential. You weren't using this turn to its full potential. Listen to LMSTVx he knows what he's talking about.
@darktrooper4
11 жыл бұрын
what frame do you have on your reaver? i am using the dog fighter frame
@SteveWFitch
10 жыл бұрын
Is there a way, and if so, to bind this to buttons on your mouse?
@ErikEllison
11 жыл бұрын
In order to pull this off I am having to REALLY pull the mouse down to make the turn. I tried cranking the sensitivity but that didn't really help. Any ideas as to what I might be doing wrong?
@TheHalomaster256
11 жыл бұрын
yeah, when I press a or d, it goes up or down not left and right when i'm banking, do you mean the look left and right?
@richardw8487
11 жыл бұрын
If it helps I think it's easier at least for me to hold space while you do it
@T3lkwa
11 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about, the game does not let any mouse axis movements to be bound. I go to Aircraft-mouse click a control, move the mouse and it does nothing.
@thealexgher
11 жыл бұрын
one thing that makes flying in this game so inaccesible is that there's nowhere to train yeah i practiced the banking turn for half and hour but the second i get into a dog fight i panic and die. now although i'd like to try agian i have to wait 10 more minutes and at that rate i can't learn anything
@Grey4Hunter
11 жыл бұрын
But when do you have to press space then?
@chetmcgovern9985
5 жыл бұрын
I don't think these still hold up quite as well. They are, in fact, 6 years old. I mean...SoE is still in the link =P
@straenbahn3271
11 жыл бұрын
can you show the key which you are using?
@chrisnova90
11 жыл бұрын
do i have to unlock some perks to do this properly?
@Rabidog13
11 жыл бұрын
good film. it almost made me think i could actually fly... till i got in game. I am so tired of a couple fighters wrecking my whole ground assualt teams that im quitting the game as i think that its broken. 2 good fighter shutting down a whole assualt is stupid.
@ElfenForReal
11 жыл бұрын
when i used it with the mossy, it keeps putting my nose up on the run. PLEASE HELP! =(
@Ifarmplasma
7 жыл бұрын
On PS4 is it good to bind throttle to R3?
@DragonGuard1337
11 жыл бұрын
Doing this is my mossy feels very slow, I'm suspecting that it's mainly the braking speed of the default mossy though (from what I've seen it actually has the lowest braking speed of the 3). Can anyone perhaps confirm this or am I just doing something wrong here?
@AprilSecondd
11 жыл бұрын
is there a problem if i can only do this in first person?
@kwanpark8051
10 жыл бұрын
can i download your flight school videos and make a sub and distribute it to my korean community? i will state that is from your youtube channel...
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