The NWA nerf hit LAs and Battleengies the hardest I think, which is not great at all. LAs - because cqc playstyles involving icarus hoping for example attracts more bodyshots from the enemies, and the 20% damage reduction is very needed, but the 10% speed debuff has a noticably frustrating effect on the momentum you can gather before pressing space purely from sprint speed. Both of those factors force you into using nanoweave but suffering from that at the same time. And the battleengi - engi was not a great ivi class from the get go, but it was usable as a challenge with symb/nano. Now with the reduced movement speed and symb being binned battleengi is unusable (w/o the lowskill gimmicks like turrets and asp shotguns).
@ZealousVidya
2 жыл бұрын
I can't think of a single reason why this Nanoweave change would increase new player retention. If the Devs made Nanoweave apply to heads, that would make sense to lower the skill ceiling and therefore you could look at New Player skill metrics before/after to determine new players are dying less/more than before. The Nanoweave change only makes sense through the lens of a meta shift for vets, so the game feels a little different and there's more variety in loadout options. In part the change was obviously a nerf for players abusing movement, which is kind of a shame because I don't think there's many games that have movement as a skill mechanic.
@DokPYT
2 жыл бұрын
You've stated the reason why the change would increase player retention in your very last sentence. But i did also explain it in the video at 0:50 in case you missed that.
@ZealousVidya
2 жыл бұрын
@@DokPYT But that isn't something that's going to impact new players at all; new players die disproportionately to salty heavies with 30%+ HSR & cheese. Movement is barely a factor.
@DokPYT
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZealousVidya Janky movement that throws new players off is one of the problems (see Wrels comment and my explanation of it that you are dismissing for seemingly no reason) and this adressed it while balancing out suit slots at the same time. There is no ultimate instant solution to fixing the NPE, it gets better one incremental change at a time and this one is part of that.
@ashen4003
2 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to formulate my opinions on NW for LA for a while and I still am not sure where I'm at. For jaeger I think I'm swaying towards not liking the change as 1) LAs have no overshield like HA so the survivability nerf of not equipping NW feels more noticeable and 2) being slower on LA feels worse than HA due to their playstyle (although this might just be me having to adjust to abusing jumpjets differently to eliminate NW slow). For live I think the change feels better... but I don't play enough to really understand it yet.
@Kerkqt
2 жыл бұрын
bad take
@ZealousVidya
2 жыл бұрын
I've heard similar things from LA players ironically even more so now using Nanoweave less than Heavies, which further increases the skill gap. Not sure what the 'meta' is on jaeger but at least on live Nanoweave made things worse probably.
@pegasus6124
2 жыл бұрын
warping around corners with athlete isn't as strong but I have not noticed any significant differences in playstyle to anything on live OR Jeager. 10% slower movement speed isn't enough to change being able to clientside with good to perfect input and info nor did it accomplish any of the points it set out to. I can still shuffle like an idiot but only in less scenarios. if you wanted an analogy for how this change effected the game, it's like they dialed down BS about 10%... 90% of the time it still happens :)
@DokPYT
2 жыл бұрын
Dialing down BS by 10% without having significant impact on current playstyles or players seems like a good deal to me.
@GHKiwi
2 жыл бұрын
What BS ? The bs lies in the shuffling+medkit and clientside. Nothing to do with NWA. The only thing they needed to do with NWA is dialing it down enough so that other suits become an option. They didnt perfectly achieve that but i'm certainly finding myself considering more options than before.
@falsevacuum1988
2 жыл бұрын
Still using it after nerf. It gives to much for HA kdr farmer.
@scienceacademynotcangivena8736
2 жыл бұрын
small weave holy sit game is lie propaganda to force players to kill nations. What is nation? Humans born without nationality, born without fascism, nationalization in childhood make them. False value, false enemy, false nation definition make false enemy, destroy value of life. Nationalist kleptocracy created fa. Wikipedia false nation definition changed always. They kill for nation, they not know what nation is. Many program errors. Slow computer, small fire frequency. Support nationalists kleptocracy value system, that created fa. Game economy based on killing nation, nationalalists kleptocracy economy false value false enemy. Religious war worshippers hilrugendacademy free slavery reunite separate nationalists.
@warufuz4ke
2 жыл бұрын
nice vid!
@aierkopfable
2 жыл бұрын
Low skill high reward :) nice :) I like that :)
@kobaltotto3252
2 жыл бұрын
Don´t advertise shotguns,there are already enough people abusing them:D
@ZealousVidya
2 жыл бұрын
I think shotguns feel OP because you die quickly but the Range of them really doesn't make them viable relative to the meta guns.
@Outfitandy
2 жыл бұрын
how can you abuse any weapon? they are there to be used, surely?
@kobaltotto3252
2 жыл бұрын
@@Outfitandy some seem to be interested in them in other ways,rule 36
@silverthorngoodtree5533
2 жыл бұрын
If it is the ONLY choice, then it is NOT a choice. Even now NO. Remove it from the game refund certs simple. OR make it so head shots do normal damage and nothing else.
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