I can call my Father anytime on the phone and we can talk that's prayer. But maybe once a week I shall bring my Sister and my Brother and meet up with our Father to have lunch or fellowship. Take care
@theworkman317
5 күн бұрын
Excellent! I must say that were 2 or three are gathered together is a much more satisfying moment of prayer than only doing it alone all the time! A perfect reason to thoughtfully at every mealtime. God bless.
@djpodesta
20 сағат бұрын
This is a really good point, but I want to know how Jesus was teaching about a church that had not yet been established; or even thought of at that point in history. Wasn’t the church established in Acts; Pentecost; after Jesus had ascended to the Father and sent the Holy Spirit as a guide for the disciples; eventually Apostles to spread the gospel and build the church? Curious; given that this Gospel was written and shared long after Jesus gave His life for humanity and God’s people.
@richardthelionheart01
14 сағат бұрын
I came to say the same thing - but was assured there must be someone who had the fortitude to address this quickly.
@djpodesta
12 сағат бұрын
@@richardthelionheart01 Unfortunately, as there is not any corroborating evidence; contemporary with the time of Jesus, nobody can provide any logical answers. Even the scholars are divided You either need to accept it on faith or reject it as fiction. People like to piece snippets together to contrive personally satisfying theories and sell popular books. But they all seem to be at odds with each other. But the average seeker seems to choose not to notice the inconsistencies. Maybe it is better that way. On the flip side, science shares the same conundrum. The truly honest theoretical physicists are dealing with unfathomable inconsistencies at their end, with the Big Bang story equating with the Creation story of the Bible and nobody being able to definitively disprove the other… or definitively prove their own case. That’s why everybody is cashing in on their latest books, that become antiquated once new evidence is revealed or contrived. However, it is fun to throw in little curve balls to try to get people to think honestly every now and then.
@mis-tur-tay-bur
5 күн бұрын
It seems it's actually the only real definition of a church in Scripture. Certainly many of today's versions of "churches" are not what many believers are looking for any more, and I don't think that's a bad thing. They're understanding that it's all about a relationship, not a religion. But Jesus' words here seem to describe the power and necessity of fellowship - just not in the sense most churches mean it. I actually take heart in those words when I get together with fellow believers who are seeking Truth.
@theworkman317
5 күн бұрын
A 'church' can just be a gathering. In Acts 16 you see that there was no synagogue and Paul went down to the river to pray with other Jews. A riverside is a fine church.
@jongoff7829
5 күн бұрын
@@theworkman317 Epheisans 4:10-14 says otherwise. "Christ established a church with officers and offices for the administration of the church. "He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things. And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;" A church is necessary to bring about a unity of faith and knowledge, and to raise us to a mature understanding of the gospel so that we are not "tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine." That Christ established a church is beyond dispute. You're confusing a simple gathering of people at a random location with the actual structure and authority, and role of the church.
@ericdrasmussen
4 күн бұрын
The role of the church has no bearing on where the saints gather together in fellowship. We are one body in Christ no matter where we are in the world. It does not matter where we gather together be it a structure, lake, riverside, or even an open field. When Jesus was preaching to the masses and fed them on two different occasions where were they? In an open field or range. The OP mentioned when Paul taught at the riverside because there was no synagogue (in Acts). Was his teaching null and void because he was not preaching in an actual church? Not at all. The structure and authority you are talking about has nothing to do with where the saints go when we gather. Think about all over the rest of the world where there are small groups learning about Jesus Christ in secret because their government will jail or kill them if found out? Does that mean they are not able to follow the structure and authority given? Not at all. As to (Ephesians 4:10-14) I can go into great in depth detail as to what those passages are telling us but it will be lengthy. I would recommend getting a study bible that will give you a greater in depth understanding of scripture passages. I use two which are the McArthur study bible and the Jeremiah study bible. Both give excellent depth and also points to other scripture passages that supports it. This is literally scripture interpreting scripture. For example (Ephesians 4:14) This tells us that spiritually immature believers who are not grounded in the knowledge of Christ through God's Word are inclined to uncritically accept every sort of beguiling doctrinal error and fallacious interpretation of scripture promulgated by deceitful, false teachers in the church. They must learn discernment. (1 Thess. 5:21-22) (Acts 4:20) (Acts 20:30-31) just as a few supporting scripture references.
@mis-tur-tay-bur
4 күн бұрын
@@theworkman317 Yes I agree mate. Greetings from Oz.
@mis-tur-tay-bur
4 күн бұрын
@@jongoff7829 You're definitely not wrong about the need for structure and fellowship, of course, But I think that message that people need to just go out and find a denomination to join is misguided. I might be wrong about this, and may God correct me if I am. That structure was relevant to a growing church, at that time. What was that time? It was a time when Christianity was exploding and needed management. Most of the newcomers to The Way were ecstatic about the recently deceased and departed Jesus and his true identity and purpose. They realised who he truly was. But there are two points to make here: firstly, most of those new believers were either previously heathens, whose practices were abominable to God, or they were from residual Pharisaic traditions. Either way, they needed guidance, and many of the disciples who sat at the feet of Jesus became prominent figures in the church. Secondly, if you read the Book of Acts and the establishment of the church, it seems most of those gatherings were small, and they gathered in any venue they could get. But one thing you won't read of is people meeting for the first time and asking, "What denomination are you?" Many Christians see that Babel of denominations as a great thing, as sign that God is at work among people of all sorts of preferences and beliefs. But there are many others who see the fact that there are literally tens of thousands of Christian denominations as a sign that something is wrong. Especially when some of their teachings are diametrically opposed to those of other denominations. But it's definitely no accident that millions of believers have come on board since that recent worldwide medical event, and feel drawn to a relationship, not a religion. I can't help thinking this was God's doing - a sifting of sorts, because at the same time as these people have been coming on board, tens of thousands of church buildings have been closing down, especially in the USA. I hate to say it, but many Bible-believing Christians are saying it's no great loss. It was time for mere churchgoers to examine their hearts and understand that, though they drew close to God with their lips, many were far from Him. Many well-structured churches long ago fell into heresy - if they ever preached the right thing to begin with. Revelation tells us that each of the seven Churches in Asia are also seven spirits that pervade today's church. Somehow, probably by working with individual hearts, God will impose a structure of some sort, but if it happens before then, it seems it will only be imposed by men, and will be in error, deliberately or inadvertently.
@topher2495
3 күн бұрын
If we were not under the law, then why would we need a savior. If we believe, we are not under the penalty of the law. The law is immutable, you know, like the law of gravity. We are always under the law therefore we are condemned and need to be rescued from its penalty.
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
Romans 6:14 - For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. If you believe we are under the Law, then you are getting your 'gospel' from the Kingdom Gospel presented in the Gospels. That may sound safe, but the Gospels are full of Law as requirement to salvation (eg. the question of the rich young ruler 'how do I obtain eternal life?'), but the members of the One Body (you and me) are under Grace and the Kingdom that was offered is in abeyance. Our gospel from Paul is primarily found in Colossians, Ephesians, Philippians, 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon. Please see my sermon on this: "Follow Jesus or Follow Paul?" kzitem.info/news/bejne/mH2ZxZevZnmZgn4
@psalms_for_the_church_to_sing
3 күн бұрын
Great explanation and teaching. Thank you.
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
Thanks so much - there is more on my channel. May I suggest: "Follow Jesus or Follow Paul?' kzitem.info/news/bejne/mH2ZxZevZnmZgn4 or "A second chance at the Zombie Apocalypse" kzitem.info/news/bejne/z55jp62nm6OSoWk
@ericdrasmussen
4 күн бұрын
So Jewish tradition requires at least 10 men to constitute a synagogue or even hold public prayer. The verse Here (Matthew 18:20) Christ is telling us that He will be present of an even smaller group or flock. Two or Three witnesses gathered in His name for the purpose of discipline as referenced back in (v.15)
@theworkman317
4 күн бұрын
Is it 10? I thought it was 12... said so in a recent talk (yet to be published). I need to check on that. Still, my point is: He is always with you. Thanks for your comment
@Shigionothmusic
3 күн бұрын
I love context period its the only way, too many miss quote the Scriptures to suite them
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
It is such a temptation to 'prooftext' and so much can be learned by properly understanding the context. See: 2 Timothy 2:15!
@Shigionothmusic
2 күн бұрын
@@theworkman317 Amein
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
@@Shigionothmusic Yes, thank you.
@chuckl4449
3 күн бұрын
The year is 1745 the pastor quotes this verse to his congregation. Help me understand how Christians missed this until now. What other revelations has the Body of Christ missed before KZitem?
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
Thanks for your comment, but the year could be 100 or 2024 or anything in between. Pastors regularly prooftext (ignore context) and misunderstand. This channel is keen to bring logical, common sense, and well-researched understanding to the Bible... even if no one has ever seen it before. Speaking of things no one has seen before, see my video on: "A second change at the Zombie Apocalypse" for an insight I've never seen anywhere before. See if you agree: kzitem.info/news/bejne/z55jp62nm6OSoWk
@thiagoulart
5 күн бұрын
That make contextual sense yeah, but rather than actually +2 people needed for God to be there, I think the verse is just commonly said as a charismatic catchphrase. Nonetheless, so to make it clear: Jesus is talking about His presence as in concordance with the witnesses judging a sin among the believers, correct?
@theworkman317
5 күн бұрын
Yes, Jesus is simply re-iterating a rule and how to use it. It is a catch-phrase and is it really something to get all worked up about? Yes, I think so, because we we get Scripture a little bit wrong then that starts to bring in contradictions we can't fix or makes promises that God's not promised to you and to me and THEN you can get a bit cynical and perhaps walk away from the faith. I know some people who really think they need to get a couple of people together to pray about - of all things - finding their keys! God bless them...
@thiagoulart
5 күн бұрын
@@theworkman317 wow those people need guidance. Thank you, God bless 🙏🏻
@theworkman317
5 күн бұрын
@@thiagoulart Thanks man.
@ZippyDChimp-mr1tf
Күн бұрын
Seems contradictory. If two or three are what’s needed, then why does Jesus say to bring the persons fault in front of the church when it has already been addressed by two or three?
@deandalley3607
5 күн бұрын
The "CONTEXT" here was church discipline ...
@theworkman317
5 күн бұрын
Indeed
@JamesJones-d5w
2 күн бұрын
Amen
@E-pistol
5 күн бұрын
Protestants disagree wherever two or more are gathered 💫
@theworkman317
4 күн бұрын
THAT is very funny...
@E-pistol
4 күн бұрын
@@theworkman317 , thanks .
@3luckydog
3 күн бұрын
What I got from this video is that it is Catholics who “disagree” with this. When has the Laity in the Catholic Church rebuked the Clergy? Are they allowed to?
@gojohnnygo3209
4 күн бұрын
Churches today are not like those in apostolic days: today church gathering are for worship and agrees with what their pastors say.
@jimmyparsons6486
5 күн бұрын
After reading all these comments, it just proves that no two can agree on much of anything. God is with one just as much as he is with a hundred and I believe God listens more to the one then He does the disagreeing hundred . How often does even two people ever agree on much of anything? So regardless of how many or how few, Jesus most definitely will be there !
@ricklamb772
5 күн бұрын
It's not possible to mis use that.If two or more are uplifting Jesus and His Father,the holy spirit is present.
@ccelms6581
3 күн бұрын
Right, but he seemed to be suggesting that some people believe in the CONVERSE of that statement which is “If I am alone (NOT in a group of two or three) then God is NOT with me.” which I would agree is not true. But I don’t know of ANYONE who believes this, so I’m confused by this message.
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
Well, the misuse comes in the fact that the number of people is irrelevant. The verses about "2 or 3", if misapplied, create confusion and it is this confusion that I am to remove. ;-)
@ccelms6581
2 күн бұрын
@@theworkman317: I just don’t see how anyone can misuse this scripture; unless they are suggesting the absent of Jesus when they are alone. In THAT case I agree with you, otherwise what you say makes no sense. If the number is irrelevant, what does the scripture mean? The scripture itself implies that the number of people IS relevant to the strength of His presence, but I agree that’s NOT to say He leaves one when one is alone because God says “I will never leave you or forsake you”.
@DonWillis607
2 күн бұрын
I see nothing wrong with using this as encouragement to pray with others and to seek other brothers & sisters to pray with. This is No Magic phrase...God Will be done..Even If Alone. However, nothing wrong with gathering 2 or 3 and petitioning the Father. I Think this is Your Pet Peeve My brother. Shalom
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
I can see that. If you see it as an encouragement only, then I understand the comment. I agree with the majority of your comment, but I do believe that we need to be careful and specific with scripture because it is so very important for our understanding. Thanks for the comment.
@DonWillis607
Күн бұрын
@@theworkman317 Shalom
@ricklamb772
2 күн бұрын
I agree the number is nothing.
@Aleksandr-Herman
4 күн бұрын
This passage is clearly about prayer and petitioning, not a description what the Chirch is.
@tripstar3563
5 күн бұрын
If you're talking about him to someone else, then he's literally right there in the same room as he is literally flying off your toung.
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
Yes, I might not say it that way, but I see what you mean.
@tripstar3563
2 күн бұрын
@theworkman317 No. Thats literally what that verse means. If he is flying off your tongue, then how can you say you're not including him in the conversation?
@SC1amos8
4 күн бұрын
Gee whiz, and I thought it was "where two or more" are gathered in My name...
@theworkman317
4 күн бұрын
Well, the principle is the same! ;-)
@SC1amos8
4 күн бұрын
@@theworkman317 Yes, indeed it is. Thank you...
@erics7004
3 күн бұрын
I understand your point, we can hava an individual relationship with Jesus, we agree on that, ok. BUT, the passage can be understood from the upside down. Because God is in the middle of 2 or 3 people we can discipline our brother. So the verses before the 20 are not restraining the meaning of thos verse, it's quite the opposite. Just because a verse come first, doesn't mean it's conditioning the meaning of the next verse.
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
Thanks for your comment
@madmonk0
6 күн бұрын
What do you mean when you're saying we're not under the law? You said it multiple times in this video. Thanks
@theworkman317
5 күн бұрын
Thanks for your question. Well, we, you and I, of the One Body are saved by our faith in the Grace and Work of Christ Jesus (Eph. 2:8,9) and only that. This is the Gospel of Grace given to us by Paul. The Gospel of the Kingdom is what you read all the way through the OT, up through what we call the Gospels + Acts + Peter + James + John, is the Gospel of the Kingdom which comes with a Covenant. The mechanism for Salvation under the Gospel of the Kingdom was to follow the Law and you get good stuff - this is the quid pro quo of the Covenant that the Nation has with God. For example, the parable of the Rich Young Ruler who asks "what must I do to be saved?" and Jesus says follow the Law, which the rich guys says he does, and then Jesus says "now sell everything and follow me (your Messiah, your King)" and the rich guy slinks away because, well, he was rich and that meant more to him. To contrast Gospels: A similar question was asked by a Gentile later when Paul was in Philippi. The Jailer asked this question and Paul answered him - not under the Law, not under the Kingdom Gospel, not under any Covenant, but under the Grace Gospel that replaces it: "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved..." THAT is a very different Gospel, wouldn't you say? So, those Jews and believing Gentiles that were to gain Salvation while the Kingdom was on offer were saved under what we might call Lordship Salvation today: Believe in Christ AND follow His commands and you will be saved. We, however, are to believe in Christ Jesus.... and that's it! This doesn't mean we should believe and then go live like Hell, but it does mean that, as Paul said, don't let anyone judge you on which sacred days you observe or what you eat. We are under the Gospel of Grace - no law, no commands, no do-gooder works save you - just your faith in Christ's work on the Cross. (By the way, your faith is not a 'work', see Romans 3:28). I hope this is what you were looking for!
@madmonk0
5 күн бұрын
@@theworkman317 I think that was always the requirement, brother. Doesn't Genesis 15:6 say that Abraham believed God and that was counted to him for righteousness. Noah, Abraham, Job, David, etc, these are all called righteous in the bible, although they all did some horrible things. So how were they justified by their works of the law? Plus the bible says there is none righteous, but God. I think trust in God was always the condition, even before Lucifer and Adam.
@mytwocents777
5 күн бұрын
Revelation 14 "12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."
@taylormuse-22
5 күн бұрын
Every person that has ever lived has been saved by grace through faith, WITHOUT the works of the Law. Period. Old Testament or New Testament. Nobody has EVER been saved either by works, or a combination of faith plus works.
@mytwocents777
5 күн бұрын
@@taylormuse-22 That is correct, as long as one does not construe that fact as an excuse to disregard the significance of one's behavior with respect to the state of his or her salvation, as many attempt to do. John, writing well after the death and resurrection of Christ, makes unequivocally clear that one's keeping of the commandments of God, which are what are summarized in the two great commandments of Christ, is the indicator of the indwelling Holy Spirit which is, itself, integral to one's salvation: 1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 24 And *he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him* . And hereby *we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit* which he hath given us. 1 John 4:13 Hereby *know we that we dwell in him, and he in us* , because he hath given us of his Spirit.
@fazerianducati
5 күн бұрын
How do you know what it means?
@yvonnephillips3888
5 күн бұрын
Find out what the original, ancient text says. Check out writings from William Barclay. He explains what the text meant in ancient times as well as today and how both are in agreement and still true.
@MegaMaverick777
4 күн бұрын
what are you guys trying to say? that Jesus is there only when you come together to discipline someone? So when 2 or 3 come together to pray He is not there? Or when a small family prays together He is not there? Whaaat????😳😳😳
@theworkman317
4 күн бұрын
Indeed, MegaMaverick777!
@geneotrexler8246
3 күн бұрын
Good video 👍🏼
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! Take a look at my other videos - I feel like there are some decent insights in there. For example: "Follow Jesus or Follow Paul? and "A second chance at the Zombie Apocalypse" and "Applying scripture to yourself". My POV is called Right Division and is based on 2 Timothy 2:15.
@ricklamb772
3 күн бұрын
Ccelmus,Oh,your absolutely right in your belief.Jesus was just saying group of true believers is supernatural power,for healing,of all types of infinities.Your personal walk,God is positively with you 100 percent.But that's why the instruction to go before the elders,and have group prayer.Becwuwe God super charges His response.King of like when they walked around the city for 7 days and all blew their horns in faith.And the walls caved in ,and fell down.God could have done it with one horn, but He wanted group participation.But that don't mean He don't love personal communication,because He does.
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
Groups have supernatural powers? You have to go before the elders and have group prayer because it will elicit a supercharged response? Where can I find that in scripture?
@FishermensCorner
5 күн бұрын
the issue isn't the saying; it's the missing context you're referring to.
@theworkman317
5 күн бұрын
That's probably right - Christ IS with us when 2 or 3 or gathered together.... but also when you are alone or with 2 or 300.
@tomdavid952
5 күн бұрын
they actually use this verse when they started to pray 😊 but i wonder if they really understand the message or context. If this is a text that gives discipline, how can they can connect into praying? 😢
@FishermensCorner
5 күн бұрын
@tomdavid952 I actually use it in my sermons all the time... my sermons aren't feel good either.
@roola8740
7 күн бұрын
Jesus looked similar to Jewish men who presently live in the land of Israel, some are light skinned like Europeans and some are brown skinned like Arabs. A person would need to research in the land of Israel to find out what men of the tribe of Judah look like. So it is possible that Jesus looked similar to a European.
@theworkman317
7 күн бұрын
could be - thanks for your comment!
@fazerianducati
5 күн бұрын
Do you think he actually believes what he is saying?
@dmandwayne817
5 күн бұрын
Please stop trying to be the smartest guy in the room. Work out your own salvation, with fear and trembling. And I will do the same. If people take courage from a scripture, why would you try to discourage them? And, don't give me the context argument. Verse 19 tells us that where two agree God will do it.
@theworkman317
5 күн бұрын
"Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling"... if your read the next verse, you might not open your - very interesting - comments in such a snarky way! Still, thank you for the comment. If people take courage from misreading a scripture, why should I care? Well, it is a desire to follow the truth rather than an easy, or happy, or convenient 'mis'-truth. You see, reading scripture and pulling out the hope of our calling means getting it right (2 Tim. 2:15 - show yourself approved unto God, rightly dividing the Word of Truth). If one is not careful, one will do silly things like quote Psalm 91 during COVID and give people the idea that if you are a Christian, you will be protected... but that isn't the case. Or you might quote Jeremiah 29:11 - "I have plans to prosper you and not to harm you" and think, "well, that applies to me and I will set my expectations accordingly" - and then be really disappointed and perhaps even cynical about the Christian faith when there is no need for that. This happens because people are taking parts of the Bible that are 'for' them and for their learning, but not 'to' them or about them - that is the 'right division' I mentioned earlier. This also means putting those things that are 'to' you in the right context. Without context, the quoted text is probably just a pretext... to quote Ravi Zacharias. ;-) Take a look at my video: Applying Scripture to Yourself kzitem.info/news/bejne/0G6sk66vboJ9dqg May God Bless you!
@matthewronsson
5 күн бұрын
@@theworkman317 What do you mean, Christ would offer no protection from illness reportedly going around, whatever it may be or what one calls it? Would it be better to put your trust and faith in flawed men in this fallen world that are promising protection?
@dmandwayne817
4 күн бұрын
@@theworkman317 I read the next verse. To me, it is a given to work out my salvation with God. How else would we work it out. Certainly not with some guy on KZitem. Back to the original video. It seems, at least to me, that you think that those who use the "where two or more..." verse think that He is not there if two or more aren't gathered. Maybe, just maybe, that is what you have encountered. However, every time I have heard the "where two or more..." verse used, it was used as encouragement. Encouraging one to seek prayer partners. Encouraging others to come along side the one, in prayer. Is that not why these "context" situations are part of the word? To encourage? Or Maybe you are trying to say that He is not where two or more are agreeing. I honestly don't know. But, I will continue to encourage people with the verse. I will encourage them to seek prayer partners. And, I will encourage others to come along side.
@Codeman785
2 күн бұрын
KJV ONLY
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
I like KJV for study - absolutely - and a Greek Interlinear like the MOUNCE Bible is really handy. I say this all without getting into whether you use the Textus Receptus or the Majority Text or something else.
@JerryCantrell-u3z
8 сағат бұрын
Jerome Jesus was not under the law Jesus is the law
@theworkman317
3 сағат бұрын
Jesus was absolutely under the Law. He followed it to a 'T' - his death, burial, and resurrection fully fulfilled the Law and all its requirements.
@mzubuki
4 күн бұрын
Matthew 4:4-7, we see Jesus talk to Satan, and Satan says, jesus you know it say in psalms 91 right: 11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. 12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone, satan said you trust the Lord don't you go ahead and jump off this cliff, prove your faith. In Jesus said you must Deuteronomy: Because it also says they'll shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. When you come by on the two verses from two totally different books, you will get an entirely new idea, at the first from Psalms 91 was for accidents, and it was not for purposeful destruction of self. Now the apostles wrote down with a remembered, and the people at the Council of Nicaea took all that was remembered and that was relevant and chose the books of the New Testament or new agreement. While they all talk the same thing, the kingdom of heaven and things pertaining to it: Acts 1 King James Version 1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach, 2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen: 3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: Mark 11:24, goes with 1st John 5:14 to create a new idea. Mark 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them. 1 John 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
Well, if you are taking promises from the Gospels, you will have a disappointing spiritual life. See my talk on: "Follow Jesus or Follow Paul?" kzitem.info/news/bejne/mH2ZxZevZnmZgn4
@salehnukho8142
5 күн бұрын
jesus did not have a long hair here is why: 1 Corinthians 11:14 Or does not nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a shame to him?
@theworkman317
5 күн бұрын
Yes, I think that that is right.
@sholland42
5 күн бұрын
You are correct, I recently read Corinthians 1 and 2, I’m in Ephesians now.
@richardthelionheart01
14 сағат бұрын
Nature (God's Creation) means your hair will grow as a man as long as to eternity unless you make a decision to cut it. So nature does NOT say this.
@josephdennison4890
2 күн бұрын
You gagging at a nat.
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
Ha! Yes, that is a real danger, isn't it? Of course, I don't think I am, but I can see how one might see it that way. The point is that we need to get the interpretation of scripture right and that necessitates a careful study of the details. Thanks for your comment!
@Maxandshe
4 күн бұрын
Neither does the Bible ever use the word Reverend.
@theworkman317
2 күн бұрын
right... or Trinity ;-), but we still use it!
@fazerianducati
5 күн бұрын
Most of it doesn’t it make any sense as you say
@sixchuterhatesgoogle3824
5 күн бұрын
"I find more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane history whatsoever". - Sir Isaac Newton
@fazerianducati
5 күн бұрын
I can’t stop yawning x
@bearlh40
5 күн бұрын
Don't tell me what to do.
@theworkman317
4 күн бұрын
Really? Not trying to 'tell you what to do'. Do people try to do that often to you?
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