⬇ Here is the VR180 sample for download FREE with LOVE❤ : www.patreon.com/posts/calf-visinse-vs-111812676 (drop Kimchi a like and "thank you" comment. Even he did not model for this one). Tell us what you think when you get a chance to see it in Vision Pro or Quest 3S.
@pocketkai
17 күн бұрын
Thank you. I have try it in Apple Vision Pro Simulator on Mac. But it show not 3D. Work 8K VR180 only with the "Moon Player"? Other File, recorded with iPhone 15 Pro works in 1920x1080 in Apple Spatial Format without addional Apps.
@Vargol
17 күн бұрын
Wow, just watched the sample video and what a massive disappointment, I need to try it on other media players to make sure its not some weird issue with Skybox, but it looks severely over sharpened, in the sunset scene Keeley looks like she's in 360p with no anti-aliasing. The whole thing looks more like 15 fps than 30fps (maybe a lack of motion blur due to the sharping ???) and the colour fringing is awful when people are wearing white. I'm torn on the colour, its over the top colourful, but that made the sunset scene look really nice, but I'm assuming the R5 bit at the end was closer to the true colour on the day. Is there an 'unstitched' option to get something a little less processed out of the camera ?
@gfunkadelicAus
17 күн бұрын
Thanks for highlighting this new camera! I'm torn, it looks great in VR cinema mode in Skybox (except the top and bottom blurs) and would be great for that but it just doesn't have the resolution for Immersive 180 VR video, there was no detail in the person coming down the rocks or on the rocks themselves, in the second shot it was better on the sand close up so maybe in scenes with less depth it'll be better but maybe we're just 3-5 years away from a consumer camera that has the resolution for Immersive 180 in the Vision Pro (even the Insta 360 Pro 2 we have at work isn't good enough!). Still tempted but if the effect isn't a lot amount better than my iPhone 15 Pro Max footage for spatial style windowed 3D then I know I'll just default back to using my phone rather than carry another camera! The side by side of iPhone and this camera for the same scene would be interesting!
@CoreGamingProject
17 күн бұрын
@@gfunkadelicAus For the record, I just get Spacialify creater answer for 60 FPS with Iphone 16 Pro... And I am waiting Appple technicien call back now. ** For Spatialify, the limitation comes from the Apple SDK, which only supports a maximum of 4K30 when recording with dual cameras simultaneously. As for Apple, I guess it might be because the bandwidth required for dual 4K60 streams is too high previously. However, the iPhone 16 Pro seems to have improved capabilities in this area, but whether it can actually record dual 4K60 will need to be tested once I get the device. Apple might not have updated the developer SDK to lift this restriction, or there could be other reasons preventing this feature from being enabled. If the SDK allows it, the latest version of Spatialify may be able to automatically detect and offer this option on the new model.**
@vrASMR180
16 күн бұрын
@@Vargol Yeah it was strange and very choppy.
@Octamed
17 күн бұрын
Great. Finally more VR180 3d cameras. Weird how they just stopped making them right before meta quest 3 and vision pro came out.
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Then Quest 3S is dropping in couple day and thing is going to be so much cheaper now.
@SkyDomeVIZE
17 күн бұрын
I am glad the are bring back the 180vr . It is a much needed sector to make VR valuable.
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Oh yes!!!!
@StereoVirtual
16 күн бұрын
@@hughhou😮
@phoenixmediaforge
16 күн бұрын
Yes, I miss Human Vision Vuze.
@YavorDoychinov
10 күн бұрын
Checking your sample footage - the left eye image is noticeably softer than the right one resulting in problems when viewed in VR. I suppose its a lens quality control issue or a pre-production model issue.
@urherevr8664
17 күн бұрын
The auto automatic er correction and stiching along with the rear view screen make it really attractive for the general public. That may drive the distribution platforms to seriously support 8k or at least 6k content which will benefit everyone.
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Yes one thing in the Cons I forget to mention is their Vision Pro App. Right now it is just a direct Unity Pour. I think they need some software work to make the Vision Pro app more usable and friendly. I think TikTok livestream app might have direct integration with AVP soon. This hardware also supposed to support that. Right now the problem is TikTok can not get into US on the livestream part at least.
@tonysenterprises1360
6 күн бұрын
Any update on when the full review for this will be Hugh? You had the pre-production unit for the first look? But did you purchase a version that shipped on 9/20? Can we expect a full review soon? Still on the fence if I should buy this and don’t like that they don’t offer any type of Money back guarantee / refund in case it’s not much better than my EVO.
@hughhou
4 күн бұрын
No I did not. Go busy working Meta Connect did not make any video just yet. I am fast but not that fast lol
@AetherSummers
4 күн бұрын
I’m in the same boat. Reluctant to buy it without seeing more footage, but props to Hugh for uploading a downloadable file. Hope we get a closer look before the early bird period ends!
@tonysenterprises1360
2 күн бұрын
@@AetherSummersI agree. I also downloaded his sample vid on the beach but wasn’t very impressed and hard to judge because everything was further away. I keep checking everyday if there’s any other updates on this 8k camera. Still hopeful that this is better than my EVO but will wait for further reviews / info before I purchase. Keep me updated on what you’ll do.
@LeVacarois
Күн бұрын
@@tonysenterprises1360I've been doing the same, also hoping for an upgrade to my Evo. Some people have received their camera yesterday and footage and reviews are now starting to get posted. Thus far it's all negative... It's unfortunate, as I had high hopes for this product. Back to wishing that Canon release their hybrid cam...
@eyeflytinkerings
Күн бұрын
@@tonysenterprises1360 Just want to voice that i‘m also in this board with you and @LeVacarois . I‘m so hoping it would be a good successor to the EVO. Actually i never owned an EVO before, but after seeing the source material from Hugh i actually looked for a used EVO and snatched one for a resonance price. While at the same time hoping that Calf will acknowledge the issue and provide a fix or at least decent communication. Seeing all the negative stuff now from the people receiving one i‘m glad i resisted the urge to order now. Now i‘ll have to look into upscaling and interpolation to try to get the EVO material to the desired quality instead, but still better than other alternatives i feel. I‘ll better invest some of the money planned for the Calf to go into Topaz Video AI instead :-)
@CalfVR0531
17 күн бұрын
A big thanks to Hugh hou for this amazing review!!♥
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Our pleasure!
@tingoyeh4903
16 күн бұрын
Qoocam3 Ultra with two mirrors can shoot stereoscopic VR video too, but its FOV will be constrained by the size of mirror, I tried this setup today, and it looks good.
@hughhou
15 күн бұрын
Oh nice! I need to try it as well.
@tingoyeh4903
15 күн бұрын
@@hughhou I've uploaded my result on my youtube channel.
@StereoVirtual
15 күн бұрын
@@tingoyeh4903 please make an example video thank you
@tingoyeh4903
15 күн бұрын
@@StereoVirtual I've upload that on my youtube short channel, you can watch that by skybox player
@heiok
14 күн бұрын
oooh, please can you show the results? And the howto? 🙏
@user-ck9cw8fs5n
17 күн бұрын
I'm instantly returning my 3.9mm fisheye lens and buying this. This is incredible so far
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Wait I don't know. Lol. The 3.9mm is still a great solution - the lens. And Canon just have not release the camera really design for it yet.
@jeromelozano
17 күн бұрын
Thank you Hugh for this video. This camera can change a lot of things. Finally a tool that will multiply the number of creators in 180° VR, that's great news.
@StereoVirtual
15 күн бұрын
@@jeromelozano most definitely
@kyuukyuu-99
17 күн бұрын
Calf 3DVR180 Gen1 is so friendly to everyday content creatorsI need it!!!
@PP3D
17 күн бұрын
Thanks Hugh, I'll wait for your next video to find out more...👍👍👍
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
It is out now!
@YGershteyn
17 күн бұрын
Thank you. Ever since my dear EVO scratched one "eye" I've been waiting for something like this to come out. I hope that video stabilization will actually appear and the price won't be "sky-high". And suddenly Insta360 finally releases the long-awaited EVO 2. I'm waiting. Is it possible to make a comparison video of CALF 2 & EVO during the day and evening and post them for comparison in Quest 3.
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Sure we will have more sample. Why everyone think EVO 2 is coming? We have no source.
@LeVacarois
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhou Yes, I'd love direct comparisons with the EVO too, as that seems to be its main competitor. I'm especially curious about the framerate and low light performance.
@anniepang
18 күн бұрын
Calf 3DVR180 Gen1 is amazing,I bought one from KS,Can't wait to see it
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
This is still not as good as Gen 1 - not a replacement btw.
@Fatman305
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhouPlease elaborate in what ways is gen1 better???
@anniepang
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhou But I see U said Calf gen-2 camera is much cheaper than the Gen-1,maybe a main a cost-effective choice~
@toralfczerniak8250
16 күн бұрын
What is the base width of the lenses? Can I take normal 3D photos with the camera? I don't mean 180, but undistorted standard photos.
@heiok
14 күн бұрын
I'm pleased that development is continuing. But I'm also a little shocked that Calf is only giving ONE fixed image setting with the Visinse. Why can't we switch between 3 settings? At the moment, even for me, the image is too high in contrast, and black areas are completely drowned out. I love bright colors, but this (and the contrast) is way too much. Make a three-stage selection in the setup and I'll buy this camera.
@hughhou
12 күн бұрын
That is exact the feedback I gave to them - I hope they listen when they see the mountain of comments and complaint lol. Even consumer need some preset.
@eyeflytinkerings
11 күн бұрын
I‘m afraid this camera is targeted mainly at camgirl usage… beauty mode (that if i understand correctly cannot even be deactivated?) and stationary use - and only very basic settings. I‘m so close to ordering, but the issues revealed by the first tests/users are really pushing me back.
@heiok
7 күн бұрын
@@eyeflytinkerings Under these circumstances I definitely wouldn't order it. Too bad, but then I'll wait for the Canon.
@eyeflytinkerings
7 күн бұрын
@@heiok yeah, i also tend to not order it. The early bird discount is nice, but the risk is too high. BTW: If i read correctly, it was revealed that the beauty mode isn‘t even included yet. So what we see currently is without it - which kinda makes it even worse :-/
@BeMeCam
17 күн бұрын
Re: the external audio jack: I see a headphone out, so is it the USB-C? Does this mean that the camera natively supports USB audio devices, including 4-channel AmbiX output from a Zoom H3-VR?
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Yes it does just like Gen-1. But not sure it can store 4 channels. It is only support Stereo. So probably only USB-C Mic for regular mic - not spatial mic
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
We should test that in my next video. But just according the specs - it does not support more than 2 channels input.
@BeMeCam
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhou Good to know, and I'm looking forward to the test result! So far the only VR180 camera that I know of that can record 4 channels into the video file straight from a H3-VR USB, is the Teche 3D180VR. It's very convenient (no worries about sync), but unfortunately the AAC encoding seems to lose some audio phase detail so the spatialization isn't quite as clear and detailed as you would get from recording to A-format internally onto the H3-VR, and then converting that. I've asked Teche if they could make recording lossless PCM audio into the video file could be added as a feature with a firmware update.
@bharatphoenix
Күн бұрын
It is garbage of a product. Hugh misled us. Just got it - worst stitching - gives you double vision, utter waste of money
@hughhou
Күн бұрын
The firmware is still beta and they are working on improving (I hope) - but can you list the problem here so other can benefit from your experience? I think my pre-production unit might be in a better firmware IDK. I don’t have the production unit yet.
@CalfVR0531
Күн бұрын
Hello! We are very concerned about the issue you are facing. Could you please provide us with your order number for our reference? Additionally, you can reach us at our official email address. All our in-stock cameras are equipped with the latest firmware version and have undergone multiple tests. Could you please elaborate on the specific problems you are experiencing? We will do our utmost to resolve your concerns. Thank you for your understanding!
@bharatphoenix
23 сағат бұрын
@@hughhou stitching was so bad - had terrible double vision - tried all the apps I could think of on the Vision Pro C2 port won’t work Have to transfer pulling out the SD card.
@AchanCover
12 күн бұрын
Great review as always Hugh! Been a user of the EVO since 2019 and it's surely due for an upgrade. This one looks quite interesting, which, as you said, is probably the only VR180 point and shoot on the market in a similar "consumer" price range right now. Will likely wait a couple of more months to see how the Canon point and shoot goes, though. A small question: the new CALF2 only has 1/2.3 inch sensors (I could be wrong, but does the EVO actually have the same sensor size too?). Despite the larger F2 aperture, this still seems to be an awfully small sensor size. Is the better image quality than the EVO mainly due to the processor being better and enabling 7k vs 5.7k, or is it the aperture? Does CALF2 suffer in low light conditions like the EVO?
@hughhou
12 күн бұрын
You are right same size sensor. But CALF use a newer SONY sensor with that size so image quality still a lot better. It is a blacklit sensor with quad pixels.
@AchanCover
12 күн бұрын
@@hughhou Thanks for the timely reply! Ah, I see. As you said, indeed perhaps using a better and newer Sony backlit sensor (even if being the same size) in itself would already improve the image quality and low-light performance a lot.
@AchanCover
12 күн бұрын
@@hughhou By the way, just want to say that, even though VR photography is perhaps still not entirely mainstream yet (especially VR180), yours is certainly the best and most informative youtube channel on the subject that I know. (I remember watching your comparison video between Evo/Vuze/Lenovo/Kandao back in 2019, and that helped with my decision in buying the EVO a lot, so thanks again!). Looking forward to more great content from you in the future! Also, with more companies including even Apple/Canon in the game, hope that there can be a renaissance of VR180 consumer product lines like in 2019 which hopefully makes VR photography even more mainstream.
@side_quest
16 күн бұрын
Awesome review! But why is the gen 1 version 3x more expensive than the gen 2?
@Fatman305
14 күн бұрын
Because it's not Gen 2, it's Gen ½... A devolution... It's not even 10% better than my 5 year old EVO...
@jaykeni
17 күн бұрын
Thanks Hugh! Always bringing us the latest and greatest in VR180 tech. Will probably stick to my R5ii/dual fisheye setup, but may pick one of these up for travel. Would still need to bring the gimbal, but excited about the light weight and in-camera stitching. How is the 7k50fps footage compared to the 8k30fps footage?
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
It is only 7K30 right now. Will show you the footage vs R5II - I am having the stabilization issue in current R5II firmware btw. Did you think the IS stabilization they claiim right now is complete broken? In EOS VR Utility it does not really work. Even in gimbal is shaky... My R5 C does not have this problem. That is why I stop making video about R5II for now - something is not right. Wonder if you see the same problem and can exchange notes
@sesinhosantos5047
17 күн бұрын
I didnt even watch the video, if this thing is good and available im buying it, no matter what. Now I will watch the video
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Haha please do watch it and let us know what you think. Not available yet - it will be after Sept 20th...
@sesinhosantos5047
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhou A little too much sharpening maybe, but at least it seems that the detail is legit and compression doesn't seem to be a problem. Saturation and contrast are too much but in the waves part it looks still gorgeous and pleasant. Video looks like it's constantly stuttering and catching up in some parts. But I have been waiting for so long, I want it. I hope you get a production unit to see your review.
@a.b.c.d.e
15 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing the samples, Hugh! Is that normal in your experience that both CALF cameras have a very uneven, choppy image flow when filming moving objects? The Canon seemed buttery smooth in comparison?
@hughhou
15 күн бұрын
I think it’s the ISP problem they just need to solve in their production unit.
@bharatphoenix
17 күн бұрын
hugh where are the sample videos - I already ordered the camera
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Coming! Sorry I got call in to work as DoP today. My actual day job in the film industry lol. So I need to go to work now.
@bharatphoenix
17 күн бұрын
Thank you for sending the email out with the link. After seeing the video, my purchase was worthwhile. Thank you for all you do - a pioneer in this field. Very much appreciate you helping non technological people.
@Sai-ll7rv
17 күн бұрын
Hugh, will you recommend waiting for the Canon or going with two QooCam 3 Ultras or is this gonna be the best around $1K option?
@davidknightx
17 күн бұрын
Wondering this myself, but my guess it will be impossible for Hugh to answer this as, to the best of my knowledge, Canon has only shown him the 180/360 flip around camera once behind a glass case with little info on its specs. Hugh is very much a hand-on guy when it comes to this tech. Even if Canon gave him the specs, he won't give an opinion until he's proven its performance. Personally, I'm holding until the end of the year for Canon to release ANY info on the camera as they said it was supposed to be coming out this year. If I don't hear anything by the holidays, probably getting the QooCam.
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Yes, I won't voice my opinion until I get the camera. Even I have the camera - I only list facts - not my opinion. This video I don't even have affiliated links to keep it fair. Qoocam 3 Ultra is a 360 camera btw this is a VR180 / Spatial Camera - completely different cat. They both use the new Android OS - getting popular now in camera. It is nice this is like a cellphone.
@StereoVirtual
16 күн бұрын
@@hughhouImagine IF Apple makes its own stand-alone spatial VR180 Cam! Will be a Game changer!!
@geimuvr
11 күн бұрын
Great review, Hugh! Are both this unit and the higher priced one from a year ago 8 bit color? Do you know if log will be added as an option?
@hughhou
11 күн бұрын
Yes they are all 8-bit. There is no log option unfortunately. Color science is one thing lots of the Chinese company never get it right.
@vrASMR180
16 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comparison sample footage. Image quality of the Calf is great, but it seems choppy compare to Canon if that makes sense.
@hughhou
16 күн бұрын
Yes the encoder still has some issue on 1 eye. They aware of that and hopefully can fix it in the final production unit (I have the pre-production unit here)
@LeVacarois
16 күн бұрын
Yes, this is also the biggest negative I noticed. Hope they can fix it, otherwise it's a dealbreaker for me...
@francoispierretremblay4784
12 күн бұрын
@@hughhou does it mean that cause i ordered it today with the early bird deal that i will get the preproduction unit too?
@YGershteyn
16 күн бұрын
Thanks for the test video. The impression is contradictory. 1 The fact that the nadir disappears does not bother at all and this is good. 2 The increase in detail is noticeable, especially in the foreground. Canon visually loses in this. 3 The picture has excessive contrast and saturation. Some oversharpening is also possible. I would like to be able to adjust the image - is it possible to receive unprocessed video from the camera. In general, I have a question about processing and controlling the shooting - does the camera provide remote control from a smartphone via WiFi. Will there be a program on the PC for processing, stitching, stabilization and initial editing of video. Or will everything be limited to in-camera capabilities. Then this is bad and the capabilities of the EVO are preferable in this regard. I hope you can shoot more videos in different conditions (soft lighting, indoors, in the evening and with insufficient general lighting and individual bright light sources) And of course I would like to compare the picture with EVO.
@Andrewe1
17 күн бұрын
insta360 and Canon are taking their sweet time releasing their solutions... if they dont release this year i might go with this camera...
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Not sure Insta360 will come in. But Canon might and we are still waiting.
@FFTuk
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhoudon’t do it to me Hugh, every video you tease me with the canon pocket 360/180 and every time you kill my dreams. We will keep doing it until it releases in 2026 as it helps with the KZitem algorithm on your channel 😂
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Well, I did sign an NDA and I am in the mercy of Canon. But I know they will release it. Right now their Spatial line for AVP get a lot more attention. So make sense they listen to the "market" first.
@FFTuk
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhou ah the NDA- say no more then! I’m holding out until December then I have to pull the trigger on something, I am taking a squad of athletes to a European martial arts championship and it would be great to capture the action in 180 stereoscopic without having to take a huge setup through carry on luggage or put it in the suitcase and hope for the best 😬
@Sai-ll7rv
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhou ok but can you blink twice in your next video if you think they are going to release before the end of the year 😁😁😁
@surreyincanada
3 күн бұрын
Love it, seems no brainer to buy pre production version at $$$, question is will the production model be very different from pre-production in terms of software(opening up the image controls), or any last minute hardware changes for better performance, saving couple of hundred on pre-production seems like a debate, if answers are not coming from Calf(I emailed, they did not reply).
@Dochmachine
4 күн бұрын
Hi, can you recommend a suitable gimbal for the CALF? Something affordable 😅
@hughhou
4 күн бұрын
Yes. This - kzitem.info/news/bejne/rHxuqo1oqYh9inYsi=ViGKQyX6RZNIAh0W - Crane M3S is what I used here.
@EVMANVSGAS
11 күн бұрын
When are we going to get 8k/60 in vr180 camera like this? Right now the only option is Canon right at about $6k?
@hughhou
10 күн бұрын
Should be soon! This is not gonna get that specs but iPhone 16 show us it’s possible to hit that specs with newer sensor tech
@acena360
16 күн бұрын
Master, please bring more information about Livestream VR! Is it possible to stream to KZitem? Which players are on Meta Quest? The live streaming market deserves this support! Thank you for another spectacular video! ❤🎉
@AGILISFPV
17 күн бұрын
Amazing quality for the price tbh. Very impressive.
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Agreed!
@CoreGamingProject
17 күн бұрын
Don't see the link to the footage for seing this on my own ? Also Calf does'nt seems to certified on ther website, that it will be 50FPS in 7.2K. 30 FPS is crap in VR so it's hard to preorder without this.
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
It is coming sorry I have a day job need to go - I am a DoP. Need to make some money first to feed Kimchi lol. These videos I don't make anything - just my give back to the community.
@CoreGamingProject
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhou No problemo... Thanks for all your work :) You are the best in VR camera. Will wait :)
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
It is up now. I did a rush job. Lots of folks are asking it. It is in the ping comment. Cheers and let us know what you think!
@CoreGamingProject
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhou The R5MII is overexposed... xD This happens a lot with my R5C... Thanks to the RAW format for being able to save all the errors of this kind ^^ And obviously the wind makes the tripod move. Calf 2.0 isn't really good at this time in my opinion. 30 FPS is crap, but you already know that.. And it seem's more like 20 at this point (motion blur off ?). But above all, there's a 3D disparity absolutely everywhere. Up close and at a distance, there's a slight 3D duplication of sand and people. It's rather disappointing, unless there was a problem with Davinci. Also we don't seem to see 7.2K here.. Sharpness is really of compare to 8K. Too much off... -------- For the record, I just get Spacialify creater answer for 60 FPS with Iphone 16 Pro... And I am waiting Appple technicien call back now. ** For Spatialify, the limitation comes from the Apple SDK, which only supports a maximum of 4K30 when recording with dual cameras simultaneously. As for Apple, I guess it might be because the bandwidth required for dual 4K60 streams is too high previously. However, the iPhone 16 Pro seems to have improved capabilities in this area, but whether it can actually record dual 4K60 will need to be tested once I get the device. Apple might not have updated the developer SDK to lift this restriction, or there could be other reasons preventing this feature from being enabled. If the SDK allows it, the latest version of Spatialify may be able to automatically detect and offer this option on the new model.** --- May I use your Video/Foutage to talk about CalF 2.0 on my Weekly news this saturday... ? And shure I Will link your channel.
@SoundSnakeStudio
7 күн бұрын
It has some nice features, but the color is horribly off, so I wouldn't be interested until they fix the coloration, it also doesn't look 7k of sharpness, and their website does totally advertise 8k, thanks for pointing that out, my Qoucam Ultra 3 I got last month looks way better
@SkyDomeVIZE
17 күн бұрын
Question: Wouldn't it be better to just buy 2 Insta360 x4 and have 8k 3D ?
@Fatman305
17 күн бұрын
No. Syncing is gonna be a (constant) b****...
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Yes syncing is the biggest issue and also no spatial livestreaming. This is really design for going live in VR180 or Spatial 3D.
@SkyDomeVIZE
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhou I see. Thanks.
@Seanweekhaizhen
18 күн бұрын
CALF VISINSE 3D VR180 Dual sony IMX577 1/2.3"
@patrykgrzyb2776
15 күн бұрын
I just came back from trip to US with my Insta360 . First day I broke lens guard and last day broke camera itself. Hope some of the manufactures will make 180 or 360 cameras more "fool proof".
@hughhou
15 күн бұрын
Still within warranty? Yes, those camera do need to handle carefully. It’s not a GoPro lol
@maxqubit
11 күн бұрын
Hi Hugh, what would you say about Calf Visinse versus Acer SpatialLabs Eyes ... Which (format) will become more popular? Afaik the Acer does not do VR180, right? Just as iPhone15Pro and iPhone16 don't do VR180. Do you think the iPhone format will be the choice for the masses, because that is what the iPhone captures? And if I want to capture in that same format ... is therefor the Acer the 'better' choice? Just trying to figure out what is ahead of us:)
@hughhou
10 күн бұрын
Yes. Acer is only 3D or Spatial Video. I can’t predict that as it depends on how successful AVP will continue to be. There are big announcements coming up on Meta Connect I can’t share yet. So the landscape might change. More on that later hehe
@maxqubit
10 күн бұрын
Thanks👍
@maxqubit
10 күн бұрын
@@hughhou btw, I am experimenting with my Quest 3 + QuestGameOptimiser ... a combo which allows 3D SBS capture ... kzitem.info/news/bejne/taOwx2mnil9mf2U ... I'm sure you are aware of that functionality 👍
@gehalumix
17 күн бұрын
Thanks for this preview. It looks very promising to me. But you also have to be realistic. If the image quality could keep up with that of significantly more expensive cameras, then this camera wouldn't be so cheap. However, if the image quality is better than that of the Insta360 Evo, then it would be an attractive offer for many newcomers to VR 180, myself included. The only thing holding me back from ordering at the moment is whether Canon will deliver something better soon. But Canon shouldn't take too much time with their announcement.
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Yes that is my point. This camera is not mean to complete with Canon or its own Gen-1, it is more a replacement of EVO as it sit around the price point. Pro user will need camera control which this camera right now do not have. And the quality still need some works - but hopefully they can iron it out. It takes Gen-1 several updates to finally good to use. So it will take some time I believe.
@vincentculleydavison2763
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhouHi Hugh! Thanks for all the info and what you do to keep us updated. But I still don't get how the Calf Gen-1 could be better than this new one since the specs of the Gen-1 (especially the 6k versus now 7.6k and soon 8k) are lower than the new model... How do you explain that?
@FFTuk
17 күн бұрын
6:27 7k* video 😂. Great video, this camera looks really good. I think maybe this is the one to finally bring VR filming into the mainstream 🤷🏻♂️. Any overheating issues when livestreaming etc?
@BoShan-lr9vq
17 күн бұрын
Looks perfect , just purchased one. When to delivered 😌 so desired
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
I believe it is after Sept 20th - I also do not have the production unit just to be fair lol.
@babtchang
16 күн бұрын
on the first generation of the CALF camera there were artifacts on low light shots and on moving shots. what about on this new generation ?
@hughhou
15 күн бұрын
Yes that is still a problem. It’s cause by small sensor and it’s the exact same sensor as gen 1
@babtchang
15 күн бұрын
@@hughhou thanks for answer !!! I will keep my two insta360 go 3 for the moment.
17 күн бұрын
I've been waiting for this video since we met at AWE this year! I already pre-order it. Does it have a built-in spatial video microphone, or is it just stereo? Which plug-in microphone would you recommend to avoid the fan noise?
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
No just back stereo mic. I won't bother even record internally. Use the Lav and mic jack instead
@LarryRosenthal
11 күн бұрын
Nice. Decent price too. Looks like a possible nice replacement for my insta360 evo
@ronlabbe
3 күн бұрын
What gimbal do you recommend?
@hughhou
21 сағат бұрын
The zhiyun One: kzitem.info/news/bejne/rHxuqo1oqYh9inYsi=MCgQV2nhz-P7vRx9
@bigchips202
6 күн бұрын
I pulled the trigger on this bad boy.. anyone here have the prosumer calf cam released about a year ago? If you do, how have they been with support and firmware updates etc
@tonysenterprises1360
2 күн бұрын
Any update on when you’ll receive it? Would love to hear your thoughts on it so I can make a better decision if it’s better than my 6k EVO.
@bigchips202
2 күн бұрын
@@tonysenterprises1360 just got a shipping notification last night (9/25)... Hopefully it will be here in time for me to get some sample videos up before the early bird sale ends. To help others decide to if they want to give it a try.. (I'm upgrading from a Evo also)
@pyrofer
17 күн бұрын
Ok, so it has a card slot but it's unclear if you can move recordings from the internal storage onto card from inside the camera without a PC? I don't want to have to take a laptop everywhere I take the camera for whenever I record more than 20gig.
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
It is 32G and 64G option is coming and prob you want the 64G if you only want internal. 24G is usable memory as the Android system took some space. The SD card is just like normal Insta360 X4. It will work. But not sure the future 7K 50fps or other higher resolution option. Right now 100Mbps can work with TF Card. You don't need to take a computer. That is just for people really want to record forever (mostly like live production / boardcast) you can have the option to storage locally for backup. That is boardcast requirement not really for consumer. It is nice to have tho. We will test external SSD in our next video.
@AndysTV
17 күн бұрын
3:41 Just a LITTLE bit thicker... it's like 5 times the thickness
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Lol, okay it is. But mostly it is the lens. Still I stuff this in my pocket in a concert once - totally fine as it look like a phone
@pantainn
14 күн бұрын
The lenses look bigger then that of EVO or that new EVO-like canon model - so I suppose this camera will be better in low light conditions? What's the photo quality? 12MP is low compared to 18MP of insta360.
@hughhou
12 күн бұрын
Photo is okay. But a lot need to improve as I did not test photo mode that much.
@DNKF
17 күн бұрын
Wish Sony also makes a VR lens too. Sony market is huge. Look forward to see comparison with iphone 16 pro.
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
OMG, from day 1 I am pitching to SONY. But I don't know them and don't know who I should talk to first. If you have hook up, let us know. We build a VR180 camera with SONY Venice 2 for some major production before. But we can not do it without SONY blessing.
@TheSpacemanSpliff
16 күн бұрын
Regarding file format this exports to, are you able to transfer the files directly to the Vision Pro Files app and play directly within the Photos app? Or do we need to use a certain app to view them? Also, i can't seem to find the sample footage in your description. is it there?
@hughhou
15 күн бұрын
It’s in the ping comment. The web service is not out yet so I can’t upload directly via camera but it has wifi features. The file will still need Premiere to edit. Not drag and drop yet but I think that’s their goal eventually
@hughhou
15 күн бұрын
Let me know if you can’t find it. Also in description. Sorry on the road 😅
@TheSpacemanSpliff
15 күн бұрын
@@hughhou Awesome thanks. One last question. What would you rate this product on a scale of 1-10? How would you compare the Canon on a 1-10 scale?
@lily1723
17 күн бұрын
This camera is a steal at this price! Where can I buy it?
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
It is not available till Sept. 20ish I believe. Link is in the description (not an affiliate link so no worry. Just for information)
@EscapeVR_
15 күн бұрын
Would this work well attached to a drone for VR180 aerial footage?
@hughhou
15 күн бұрын
Not until Dec stabilization is out. Also you need a pretty heavy duty one as it will catch wind.
@kingjames1866
17 күн бұрын
Thanks for this Hugh, I will likely buy it on release.. I wanted to ask on a scale of 1-10. Where would you put insta360 EVO and where would you put Calf Vivinse?
@rcflyinglife2024
17 күн бұрын
So the Calf visinse is the Gen 2? I am confused because on the video you made you list Visinse and the calf gen 2.
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
CALF Gen 2 is CALF Visinse. I think CALF bought VINSINSE? Or the lens is made by Vinsinse. I really don't know Visinse until now. They are a lens maker.
@rcflyinglife2024
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhou Thank you so much for helping me spend my money. You do a great service for us and I appreciate it.
@deneswebb
16 күн бұрын
Great camera, great video. Thanks 🙏
@alersito
17 күн бұрын
i will wait for Canon
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
It should be something coming up soon as well.
@Calico3D
17 күн бұрын
@@alersito Or maybe whatever SLAM is working on. 🤞
@ramiefathy
17 күн бұрын
Is something new coming from Canon?
@Fatman305
17 күн бұрын
I'm also waiting for something to come up by Xmas...
@Calico3D
17 күн бұрын
@@ramiefathy Allegedly something that is reminiscent of the EVO, much better specs.
@hmhhou6464
17 күн бұрын
这项8k.VR180攝像机真的很好用,也很实恵,。讲述明白谢谢!
@VRdotCam-km6nh
17 күн бұрын
Nice product and it's good to finaly find more and more solutions to create VR180 content. If I understand well, this cam is also design to produce live stream up to 100Mpbs (in VR180 ...) ! On which platforme ? And have you ever try to publish a live stream in 6K or 8k (@30fps only) with standard tools ? ... for my part, we can publish at 4k@30fps .. with a subsecond latency, but it's the maximum. I don't undersand how to go further (perhaps using pro solutions but costs are too high).
@Calico3D
17 күн бұрын
So, more stretched pixel junk at nadir & apex? 😩 Waiting for more updated info from you.
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Yes just like the CALF 1 - it is the look this brand always has
@Octamed
17 күн бұрын
They could have an option to simply make that area black? Or maybe just blurred to give your peripherals something to sense.
@Calico3D
17 күн бұрын
@@Octamed There is an optional mask built into the CALF-1 I believe.
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
You get raw fisheye BTW! Just mask it yourself in Resolve. Just a black mask will work. Easy!
@TappedOutTravel
18 күн бұрын
Canon finally bring out the beassst? I assume not since there is no 360. =(
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Oh I wish!
@EyeCanShootFL
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhoume tooooo
@babtchang
17 күн бұрын
the Gen 1 had some terrible artefacts in low light and movement shot, is that one have the same issue ?
@christianlamb
16 күн бұрын
Ive heard you say that on quest 3 when using youtube we should go through the meta browser but couldn't figure out how to get more than 720p as this was highest quality offered in settings but video showed 180 immersive at 4k in description....please help. ❤
@Voron_33
14 күн бұрын
What you think about acer SpatialLabs eyes? Good cam?
@Fatman305
14 күн бұрын
The Acer is better than this cam for sure! If nothing better (Canon) comes out by end of year, I'll hopefully pull the trigger on either Acer 3D cam or ViewPT Realia...
@hughhou
12 күн бұрын
Acer 3D is a 3D Spatial Camera not VR180 - so not the same category lol. I don't have the Acer but SAME SENSOR btw!
@Voron_33
12 күн бұрын
@@hughhou Perhaps other companies will release 180 lenses on Acer and then it will also be possible to shoot vr180, because it can record 8k 30 fps. But this is just a fantasy. The Acer hasn't been released yet, you can't buy it anywhere.
@Fatman305
12 күн бұрын
@@Voron_33 Or maybe I would stitch 3x Acer 3D's for 18k VR180 or 24k VR240 with help of some AI 😍 I'm not that picky about the edges, hence VR240 which should be super easy to do with minimal work. It could have 3 "window frames". No biggie... I even envision 2 of the 3 to be easily rotatable so I can change where they point... one could cover the complete back of the stationary one if there's interesting action there...Cameraman (me) will be (less/in)visible on the side, or away (tripod/bike mounted monopod etc)...
@user-ke8vk8bo4j
17 күн бұрын
What are the pros/cons of calf gen 1 vs gen 2, what makes gen 1 better than 2?
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
The lens, the native 60fps sensor support, and better professional control that Gen 2 will lack. Gen 1 you can set everything - ISO, Shutter, WB, Saturation, even sharpness and vibrancy. This is kinda important for spatial livestream when you can not do post color grading. It is full metal housing and heat sunk and more ports. The Gen 1 I heard there is firmware to make it into 8K but personal I have not tried it yet.
@Fatman305
14 күн бұрын
@@hughhouBig question if the firmware brings 8k via interpolation (crap), or actual optics (sooo good). I can use Topaz to do better upscaling tyvm....
@Fatman305
14 күн бұрын
How does it compare to ViewPT Realia VR180 in 8k30? Is the Realia noticeably sharper or is it just lame digital interpolation that can be done even better in post using Topaz...?
@hughhou
12 күн бұрын
ViewPT Realia is CALF Gen 1 - they are the same camera and same hardware. Just different software. But this camera and CALF gen 1 is still better BTW. This is not the camera to replace it
@Fatman305
12 күн бұрын
@@hughhou Is Realia 8k optical or no? Will I be able to read more words on that zooming in section of your comparison........oh wait, maybe it was Gaba's comparison 😊 After all, you taught us 8k is meaningless without seeing the actual quality. 8k upsampled from 6k is crap (even with the AI help). 8k downsampled from 10k is pure gold...
@Htbaa
17 күн бұрын
The footage of the first Calf I’ve seen on DeoVR is comparable with the Vuze XR, but was already 4 times more expensive. And for that money lackluster. Haven’t seen the price yet but I bet this will be at least as expensive. Much more looking forward to the Acer 3D camera that’s coming soon.
@Htbaa
17 күн бұрын
Ah, more affordable than expected.
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
$699 - The CALF Gen 1 I will say it is 10 time better than Vuze XR without compression (watch locally). This CALF is actually not as good as CALF Gen 1 in image quality still. But CALF Gen 1 is a professional camera.
@Htbaa
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhou hmm interesting! It was even official Calf footage I watched on DeoVR. Might have to download some videos straight to my Pico 4 then.
@Fatman305
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhouWTH... Then call it Gen 0.5, not Gen II... Nature evolves...not devolves (99.997% of time)
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Check my ping comment. Straight out of the camera.
@Sai-ll7rv
18 күн бұрын
looking forward to see what Kimchi has to say 😁 Also for your review as well Hugh, but Kimchi is the star you know 🤣
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Kimchi love everything as long as you got treat... lol
@nowandrew4442
17 күн бұрын
The obvious question: is there enough FOV leeway for stitching to snap two of them together to make a 14K/16K 3D 360° cam?
@hughhou
16 күн бұрын
oh no... You need 4 not 2
@nowandrew4442
16 күн бұрын
@@hughhou oh? Why is that?
@Fatman305
14 күн бұрын
@@nowandrew4442He's a pro, so in his eyes you need overlap for 3D effects on the side-views. That would also be insanely cpu and human labor intensive. I'd stick to having 3D effect straight foward and straight back only (2 cameras)... In fact, I would probably do something like that myself one day... I have no problem using two cams simultaneously... Due to inherent low pixels-per-viewing-angle on vr180, I can see myself using the Acer 3D ("VR80", not 180, in 8K) together with some decent quality 8k VR180 camera for front shot, possibly together with my EVO for back view. Yes, three camera setup. If the later workflow can be automated, it'd be worth the effort. I enjoy carrying gear around... It's good physical and mental exercise too 😂
@rcflyinglife2024
17 күн бұрын
Any idea what release date it…anyone?
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Sep 20th the earilest but they might push. It is festival there everyone is on vacation.
@qAntBcn
15 күн бұрын
Footage of this new camera looks BAD... like realy blury and oberations at the edges... SO please be careful... i hope it will be fixed
@sbwho86
17 күн бұрын
Where can I get your sample video?
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
It is coming!
@sbwho86
17 күн бұрын
@@hughhou thank you 😊🙏!!
@baballe
17 күн бұрын
Oh c'est quoi ça... 🤯👍
@pocketkai
17 күн бұрын
can you public a Calf 8K VR180 video for download?
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Yes. Here you go. Just posted in ping comment: www.patreon.com/posts/calf-visinse-vs-111812676
@pocketkai
12 күн бұрын
can you public a original file from the camera. i have see in video settings fisheye and ERP. what is ERP?
@pocketkai
12 күн бұрын
what format is prefered for apple vision pro?
@lifeneedsmorechill
17 күн бұрын
"a little bit thicker"? i wonder whats alot thicker according to Hou
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Lol yeah true.
@nakyu9116
18 күн бұрын
🎉
@jorgediaz4863
17 күн бұрын
700 €??? For one camera 3d? Optical zoom??
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Wait no zoom. It is 180 3D and Spatial Video (the Spatial Video is a crop from 180 3D - kinda like my Canon workflow but all happen in camera without learning the Resolve 19)
@ThomasKropf
17 күн бұрын
I don't really care about VR180 video. What about photos? It doesn't really say anything about it. Will it make (almost) 8K photos?
@yellowjacket996
7 күн бұрын
You might want to reconsider? Video is a much more engaging format in VR vs stills.
@theultimateninja
17 күн бұрын
I thought this cam was supposed to be over $1k??
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Nope - $899 final retail price. Do expect what you pay is what you get tho.
@mikami5799
17 күн бұрын
The color is way off....
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Yes that is the feedback I gave them as well
@ryanchristiansen
16 күн бұрын
That blurring and stretching on the top and bottom is pretty bad. For me, that's kills me from purchasing it. It just looks really unprofessional.
@hughhou
16 күн бұрын
You do get fisheye if you just want to stitch it yourself with Mistika or Resolve and use a black mask to cover it. But I hear you. It is a trade off
16 күн бұрын
This is a very small area while watched in the headset
@พลเมืองดี2499
17 күн бұрын
🥺ประเทศไทย 🇾🇪ไม่มีขาย🥹?
@Fatman305
17 күн бұрын
Gonna pass on this Gen ½, tyvm....
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Apple solve it already with computer vision. The 3D look great and Spatial Video on Vision pro has the best 3D presentation. That limitation is very old school now.
@Fatman305
14 күн бұрын
@@hughhouI think you replied to wrong comment?
@francoispierretremblay4784
12 күн бұрын
@@Fatman305 nope but your comment is wrong...
@Fatman305
12 күн бұрын
@@francoispierretremblay4784 lol. I should edit it to make it right, then. For Master Hugh
@meh6513
17 күн бұрын
Sussy videos are gonna actually look good?!
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
What you mean sussy videos? The sample it is out now. See it yourself!
@vrfrir
8 күн бұрын
Glad to see another camera but I'm not impressed at all, feels like an s upgrade. Still with the same chin and forehead pixel blending junk, no manual exposure, overpriced for what you get. Big pass
@virtualgum
17 күн бұрын
If this turns out to be some bs sub-$1000, 150 FOV toy camera I’m unsubbing 😠
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
it is sub-$1000 but 180 FOV with a modded. We cover every VR180 camera without discrimination. Consumer and Professional. Please consider keeping your sub so you don't miss any good news. Pro level is coming but they are slow and I am working with them to make the camera great for Pro (as I am an Pro VR shooter working in the film industry - my main day job. KZitem just my side gig for fun)
@virtualgum
17 күн бұрын
Thanks@@hughhou. I was half joking but still a bit disappointed we didn't get something more prosumer level. Nonetheless, I've just preordered and am looking forward to giving this a spin!
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Nice! More pro level camera is coming thos. It is at the $30K range - and you probably know which one I am referring...
@BlakeBlackstone
17 күн бұрын
This dudes name is really Hugh Hou. lmao
@Fatman305
17 күн бұрын
He b huge
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Hehe... that is meeeee
@ElaztikaVR
17 күн бұрын
First comment without looking the whole video! Like Fry from Futurama said... take My Money!
@benjones5799
8 күн бұрын
hey, I have the original calf and is there a way to stabalize the footage in premiere? The footage is great, but man it is hard to keep stable, even with a gimbal
@IDpseudonymous
8 күн бұрын
I want to order but I want to see if the 8k resolution update will be dropped on 9/30 before the early bird price ends (and hopefully we would get in depths review at that time. But let's face it, it's the only new consumer priced vr180 camera from a company that already had a decent vr180 camera on the market. And I will use it for family videos) I watched the sample video in quest 3. In terms of visuals, at the moment, two GoPro 11s look better. 3d spatial video is only 1080p per eye at 60 fps? This is due to the sensor? I was hoping it could do 3d spatial video in 4k per eye at 30 or 60 fps like the acer stereo 3d camera or the iPhone 16 pro theoretically.
@francoispierretremblay4784
12 күн бұрын
I ordered it just before i saw your video. lol So now Im glad that i did. I was really nervous about that compulsive buying. Haha. Nice video reviews thanks! By the way i buy it with the early bird deal and also a found a 100$ promo code on the net. So it cost me 599$ USD free shipping include. It is already a very nice cam and I'm sure that future firmware update will make it better.
@kingjames1866
12 күн бұрын
I would like to buy one soon too, can you please tell me where I can find that promo code please.
@tonysenterprises1360
6 күн бұрын
Yeah, is the promo code still available? Pls share
@AetherSummers
15 күн бұрын
Thanks for the sample video Hugh! Do you know why the left eye looks slightly blurrier than the right?
@gabes3dvideos
15 күн бұрын
“No manual exposure or white balance”…so not a real camera then. Useless.
@hughhou
15 күн бұрын
It is for consumers and point and shoot users who don’t know camera much. But I am pushing them to have professional features. It’s just not on their roadmap yet.
@gabes3dvideos
15 күн бұрын
@@hughhou Please do! Not sure how hard it would be to implement, but definitely needed. $700-$900 (after sale) seems a little above point and shoot.
@a.b.c.d.e
14 күн бұрын
@@hughhou they literally advertise it as the "Calf Visinse Professional 8K 3D VR180 Camera"...... agree that controls are a must-have
@WillpowerCinema
Күн бұрын
Thanks for the video Hugh! I wonder if the camera is 8 bit or 10 bit? And if it is 4:2:0 or 4:2:2? I can’t find any info on this…color depth and chroma sampling
@hughhou
Күн бұрын
8 bit 420 - I can not tell color science as it’s compressed
@bildundraum2024
Күн бұрын
Hey Hugh. Received my Gen.2 Visense today. The Fan is really loud, have to think about it. Can you help with a short post production Video on Davinci Resolve?
@hughhou
Күн бұрын
All my Canon post video work on this cameras the Fans is so loud as you heard from my as well. I reported it as well.
@phareliandawn9048
15 күн бұрын
Thanks for the sample footage. Found that left image has less detail. Hope they fix this
@Captainleosullivan
Күн бұрын
Can we film in normal 3D format with this camera or can we only do 180° vidéos ?
@hughhou
21 сағат бұрын
In theory yes! But the firmware is not out yet for me to test. So I will follow up on this.
@Captainleosullivan
21 сағат бұрын
@@hughhouok thank you 🙏😉
@bigchips202
17 күн бұрын
Finally! I've been waiting for a successor to my EVO for years now
@hughhou
16 күн бұрын
I hope it is not too long lol
@StereoVirtual
15 күн бұрын
@@bigchips202 yes 👍
@ffdfdfdfdfdfdfdf
4 күн бұрын
I'm confused. the footage you uploading the Calf VR looked much more clear.. much much much more clear than Canon R5M2. surely the difference can't be that huge? or is it?
@hughhou
4 күн бұрын
Mmmmm... Not sure what you mean Calf VR looked much more clear - The R5M2 is very sharp as well. Those are just direct camera output. Be ware the Canon is 8K but I have to render it down to match Calf.
@ffdfdfdfdfdfdfdf
4 күн бұрын
@@hughhou The R5M2 looked like trash on ur video. looks grainy, can't make people out. The Calf VR looked great and very impressive. could you instead upload sample footage to do both devices justice but separate files?
@AndysTV
17 күн бұрын
Can you edit 3d video in final cut pro? The workflow seems to be all too complicated. I kind of hope the 3D XR future to be here earlier and disappointed by Apple not letting iPhone 16 Pros to support 4K60 Spacial video
@hughhou
17 күн бұрын
Nope. 3D editing is only on Davinci Resolve - we have indepth tutorial on that topic - it is not that hard.
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