Some folks are reporting really struggling to hit +1 All with this fossil combo that always worked well in the past. Is this just a bit of confirmation bias or is there a chance that the weight was "adjusted"?
@gehirndoper
2 жыл бұрын
According to craftofexile it's only a 1/12 chance to hit +1 all.
@riktorGaming
2 жыл бұрын
I have almost always hit this within the average, it seems really odd to go almost 3 times above average without hitting, I have also experienced being unable to 6L armours this league, having spent over 3500 fusings without hitting it seems like something that has never happened before.
@sirtob1
2 жыл бұрын
I had problems hitting +2 on minion wands with fractured minions are aggressive, which SHOULD be a 1/6 or 7. Went 12 crafts and even saw +1 minions only once, as I pretty much always got 3 suffixes/1 prefix. very weird indeed.
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
@@gehirndoper It showed me 1/6 (with the fractured mod), but after running a simulation, it showed 1/11. Clearly it's not very consistent :/
@gehirndoper
2 жыл бұрын
Oh, you did the simulation yourself after all. The fractured prefix reduces the chance by a lot.
@ChronicPainless
2 жыл бұрын
Big shout out for not editing out the frustrating parts. I think you made all the right moves, RNG just do be like that sometimes.
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
:D Thanks! I edited out some major mald moments where I was swearing like a sailor, but I think you could still sense my frustration without those :'D
@TheMrPanDaBaR
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lolcohol I wish there would be a "behind the scene video one day" Molding edition :`D
@cronos6400
2 жыл бұрын
If you take a scepter with max ilvl 82, you can get rid of the jagged, and do 3 fossils tries (way cheaper). The jagged is only there to remove the prefix add chaos to attacks, which only show up at ilvl 83+. With correded-metalic-shuddering the only prefix left for ilvl82 and a fractured +1 phys/elem/chaos is the +1 all and spell power.
@guitarsolos89
2 жыл бұрын
Ran it on craftofexile and you are correct. Found a nice 82 base to test it on. Will update.
@guitarsolos89
2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't too bad of a craft, got +1 in like 7 fossils. And hit double dmg on second aisling. Thanks alot for ur suggestion with 82base
@stefanalexandrumarius5267
2 жыл бұрын
The 666c remaining got me at the end. Signs everywhere. Thought what everyone said, congrats for not editting out the 1/11 part and nice craft at the end :)
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
Oh shit I didn't notice that! It is definitely a sign :O
@lovefool2850
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing this process. I'm playing Glacial cascade miner and this is the scepter I'm going for!
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Glad it was helpful
@mrchill530
Жыл бұрын
The fracture lowers your odds of crafting by a mind blowing amount, the Fossil craft method is best used on a non fractured base
@羊咩咩-l9j
2 жыл бұрын
yeap the fossil phase is disastrous, i used 30 of them to add +1 all skill gems on my wand. Then I accidentally craft "cannot roll attack" instead of "cannot roll caster" and unnul off my +1all skill gem. It was painful :
@ayoCC
2 жыл бұрын
reminder to myself to always use the search function so that this will never happen lmao
@Amereius
Жыл бұрын
I got a Tujen vibe at 2:30. Jokes aside, good job! Very nice showcase of the craft and methods of making the craft!
@superartstudio
2 жыл бұрын
Oh that’s why those weapons are so expensive this league. I stopped playing. FK 3.19 and GGG. I’ll be waiting for D2R 2.5.
@VaraNiN
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, this is more in line with my own crafting experience
@gmofftarki
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. I got baited by CraftofExile yesterday on another craft and was feeling quite annoyed by it (in my case, it was my own fault. I screwed up the mod groupings on the calculator and what I thought was a 1 in 90 was in fact a 1 in 2500. I spent about 3 divines before I realized that I didn't even see lower tiers of the rolls I was looking for.) Nice to see that even the knowledgeable crafters have issues sometimes.
@mrothird
2 жыл бұрын
That was rough to watch, but glad it worked out in the end
@JooshMate
2 жыл бұрын
Lol the example for price check @ 09:05 that can be fixed with cannot roll caster has a synth implicit for Spell double damage... that shit would be insane at that price point no?
@fireee5051
2 жыл бұрын
Yes seems pretty cool but you can't redeemer slam on a synth item. Would still buy it at that price
@ic8789
Жыл бұрын
old video, but the fact that you just said "i hope you all have more luck with your crafting" and i hit it first resonator, got the perfect annul, and now have an insane scepter within 5 minutes with self found shit makes me giggle.
@Lolcohol
Жыл бұрын
Haha good job! :D That's why crafting is so fun -- all the pain makes the good crafting experiences feel ten times better
@lovredunatov3675
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Lolcohol, i think you didn't need to do cannot roll caster annul when you were going for an aisling, because aisling would have a 50/50% chance to remove either the lightning damage suffix or the prefix cant be changed metamod. If it did remove the lightning suffix and you got a veiled prefix u liked, you'd still have the prefixes cant be changed on your sceptre for further crafting with reforge crit or whatever else you had in mind. That might have saved you a couple of divines. That fossil luck tho :'(
@JohanCardel
2 жыл бұрын
It looked very painful, but the outcome was pretty good in the end. So I hope you have better luck in the future, I am quite certain you used up the reserve of back luck/rng for some time now.
@30763076
2 жыл бұрын
Love to see these crafts, great way to learn them atleast.
@rorhianskall5659
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much my crafting experience at the beginning:D
@Jokseej
2 жыл бұрын
It's only a 1/12 on an EMPTY item. Once you have a fracture on there, it gets much rarer as the fracture automatically eats a prefix, meaning there's one less possible prefix to even roll.
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
I added the fracture on craft of Exile and assumed it would do the calculations properly lol
@garhong9125
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Locohol, it's me again! So I think I see the problem. While CoE says 1 in 6 with the fractured base, logic tells me this cannot be right. When people used to craft +2 minion wands, it was a 1 in 12 not because Magister is that easy to hit but because there is a 1 in 12 chance that you get 6 mods on the item and if you get 6 mods, that fossil combination guarantees you have to get Magister because there were only 3 valid prefixes to pick. So I would reason that if you were to hit Magister, it is the same way as your fossil combo also leaves 3 prefixes open. However, because you fractured a mod (Lithomancer) that is NOT allowed by the fossil combo, that actually means you have 2 open prefixes for the 3 allowed prefixes from the fossil combo. And unfortunately, the remaining 2 prefixes have MUCH higher weight than Magister. So I don't know what is wrong with CoE calculation but it should be astronomically more difficult to hit than 1 in 6 or 12.
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this explanation!! This might explain why the simulation and calculation were giving such different results!
@AgaresOaks
2 жыл бұрын
This is incorrect. Locking +1 phys also blocks +1 melee (same group), so +1 all is still forced on 6 mods. If you frame-by-frame, you'll see Lolcohol never hits 6 mods. If there's wide reports of +1 all being harder to hit with forcing methods, someone might wanna test if GGG stealth "nerfed" the chance of 6-mods appearing naturally to try to address prefixes/suffixes cannot be changed being removed by making it less likely you hit a 6 mod item, but the number of times rolled in this video is not really enough to draw a conclusion either way.
@kylebusc3624
2 жыл бұрын
@@AgaresOaks it kind of does seem like the chance of rolling 5-6 mod items with fossils/essence has gone down. For example I've spammed over 100 deafening scorn essence on a fractured WED amulet, I've hit life twice, both times being 10-20 life. Most times I use an essence I end up with 0 prefixes besides my fracture.
@garhong9125
2 жыл бұрын
@@AgaresOaks I stand corrected. I didn't notice the melee gems also got blocked out when this happened. Thanks for clearing that up!
@NoPantts
Жыл бұрын
i want to craft on a secpter with fractured damage over time muilti, what is the best way to get +2?
@rabceesaint8981
2 жыл бұрын
The amount of gambles you took to craft that was mad!
@Frankydickenson
2 жыл бұрын
Poor guy! Glad you hit the t1 hatred first go though :) Keep up the great content
@yaydood2556
2 жыл бұрын
chris is very happy looking at this video lol
@love2rogue
2 жыл бұрын
wonder if you didnt consider the fracture mod on the item in craft of exile taking up 1 of the prefix/suffix ? so instead of 1/3 it was 2/3 fucking up that 1/6 - if that makes sense lol
@fiddledeedee6970
Жыл бұрын
Hey like the video. A question. If you had a clean +1 to all skills only sceptre (magic) how would you go about crafting it for +1 phys amd multi mod? appreciate it
@mutotheadmiralgeneral5350
2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I have no idea about how much the second base costs but if you have a 4 mod item you can split it and I guess each of them should be magic and have a pref and a suf?
@Fallenstar37
2 жыл бұрын
And I just hit my +2 sceptre with deafening essence of woe in 5 tries. Omega lul. Now I have 3 prefixes +2 and 90% spell damage, i'm left with 3 open suffixes. I need trigger on spell and was thinking about unveiling double damage with veiled chaos. Later i'd slam it with ex, if I failed I can repeat until im happy. Any idea what else I could do to maximize fire dmg?
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
That is absolutely disgusting. How dare you D: If I were you, I'd be very cautious with what you have - don't use a veiled chaos because you could fill those suffixes and end up in a shitty spot. I think you should just lock prefixes, Aisling, try get the unveil you want, block something, slam, then bench on the final mod! I'm not 100% sure how you'd maximise your fire damage because it depends on the build you're playing!
@SerikonIsHere
2 жыл бұрын
Also, dont slam it with an ex at the end, take a conqueror ex just like lolcohol did, probably has a better chance at way better mods. Otherwise youll probably end up with 7% cold resistance as your last mod
@dasauto1555
2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind gaslighting gear games took reforge prefixes away from us and eldritch currency isnt compatible with weapons. Take your next steps VERY carefully on that beautiful sob
@Fallenstar37
2 жыл бұрын
@@SerikonIsHere You cant use conq ex on fractured items :P I used normal ex, got t4 crit chance, so unfortunately not fire dmg.
@SerikonIsHere
2 жыл бұрын
@@Fallenstar37 to be fair, you didnt say it was fractured :D
@alexanderengl6593
2 жыл бұрын
Is there a way so craft +1 to fire skills with a save method on a scepter?
@Lolwhatnow1
2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Any chance you would consider a video on +2 Lightning? I've been looking around but can't find anything more recent without recombinators.
@j-rad2613
Жыл бұрын
it is done the exact same way mate, just go for lighting mods
@twistedbydsign99
2 жыл бұрын
craftofexile probably has the wrong weights or the weights are conditional on the current mods on the items. They must have a model at ggg for this since they are pricing ritual items for example and it doesn't appear to be a linear scale up in price.
@biju7832
2 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of BV run the sceptre/shield combo or double sceptre combo how does it compare to double void battery setup ?
@guitarsolos89
2 жыл бұрын
I recommend going sceptre or void+shield for mapping and shield rush around. Bosses swap to 2x void/sceptre. A sceptre crafted like the one this video is a HUGE dps over Void, like 2.5-3mil depending on ur crit multi and gems.
@Josh-lk7vi
Жыл бұрын
Wish I could just put you in my back pocket. I’m playing RF and I just got a Scepter that I managed to isolate +1 all fire and no other mods. Then the next day I got the same on an amulet. And now I have no freaking clue what to do. Even watching these videos, it all goes over my head…Crafting is the part of PoE I avoid. I legit have both items sitting in my stash and keep playing with my worse gear because I’m afraid to start and mess up lol.
@Lolcohol
Жыл бұрын
You should join the Discord! We have tons of really smart and helpful people there who you can ask for help :D
@mykalbuckner1981
Жыл бұрын
I feel his frustration i spent so much trying this
@brumeags
Жыл бұрын
I decided to go for it and buy a fractured +1 phys spell carnal sceptre, used about 150 chaos, and hit the +1 all skills so hit lucky. So now i have a +2 so will work on it & hope for decent stats
@jaysp8613
2 жыл бұрын
Cannot roll caster mods is 1 divine now??, wasn't it like 5 blessed orbs last league?
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
Yes lol. No idea why it was changed :(
@jaysp8613
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lolcohol omg... I remember myself annulling the crafted mod 7+ times in a row, crafting is becoming less and less affordable with each league :(
@funchicko
2 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain. I got headache from this, so unlucky
@vietcuongtran6489
2 жыл бұрын
It is nice to watch your crafting video. Can you make a video of your current build?
@Madzak
2 жыл бұрын
I bet they have changed the weightings without telling us. I also struggled getting +1 this league.
@cbrngst3306
2 жыл бұрын
graz with hatred effect
@philosophus296
2 жыл бұрын
thats comedy... great video!
@januszcirvin6913
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fakt for 3 days i trying to do +2 all skill lvl on staf with fossils and Craft of exile say that its 1 to 11 to hit and i do it 40 times and 1 hit It 2 times bus it has 6 mods do annul and on 20% i hit this +2 mod 2 times
@BuzzaB77
2 жыл бұрын
Do the Jun options respect the "cannot roll" crafts?
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
She doesn't :( You can test it on Craft of Exile if you want to make sure!
@AnEJlbCuH4uK
2 жыл бұрын
why are you using annul instead of scour to clean suffix?
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
Because when there's only one non-caster tagged suffix, I have a 50/50 chance to annul it first time, potentially saving one divine over going Prefixes Cannot be Changed + Scour. It's a bit of a gamble, but I'm always up for one of those :D
@jonathandoersky4534
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Lol, wanna double corrupt some blade vortexes?
@nomore9350
2 жыл бұрын
Does this method works for +5 staff?
@juliofoolio2982
2 жыл бұрын
You really show how it’s done and that has helped me so much. But I have an excess of mirror neurons and it is actually painful for me to watch your frustration. I will keep coming back for awhile, but I have started flinching when I see you have uploaded. Please take care of yourself.
@princecuddle
2 жыл бұрын
I've actually noticed that when you already have a + all gems on an item the chance of getting another mod for socketed/all gems is much lower on the item.
@trashcaster
2 жыл бұрын
This is only because the mod takes a slot that could give the mod. The mod does not interact with other mod directly for crafting
@pablobb88
2 жыл бұрын
is not better just alt spam until +1?
@aroace7913
2 жыл бұрын
My finger hurts reading that, like you can but it is a pain.
@AlexanderVoroncov
2 жыл бұрын
Great crafting video
@cozheadlol
2 жыл бұрын
Was funny to see you Mald a bit :D
@callmedad4497
2 жыл бұрын
Thx for this video XD
@guitaraholic
2 жыл бұрын
Do we know if Fossil base chances and weighting has been actually changed? Sad that the first thought I had watching the beginning is 'hmm i wonder if this is another stelth nerf' Awesome craft result in the end!
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
I actually didn't think that, but after this...I wouldn't be surprised if there was some crap like that. The simulation did say it was 1/11 instead of the 1/6 the Calculator showed, but what are the odds of not seeing a single mod once if you attempt to hit it 39 times and there's a 1 in 11 chance? It could just be some bad luck where I fell on the bad end of the bell curve. We need a maths nerd help wherever shall we find one
@SerikonIsHere
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lolcohol have you told craftofexile, that the sceptre was fractured?
@ChronicPainless
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lolcohol It's 2.43% to miss 39 times in a row on a 1/11 (10/11)^39 = .0243 Or about 1/40. So thanks to you absorbing that dark side of the variance, 39 other BV blasters will have an easier time making their sceptre.
@onbored9627
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lolcohol If it's a 1/6 chance then to have a 99% chance of having hit the modifier you would need 26 tries. For a 90% chance it's only 13 tries. If it's a 1/11 then to have a 99% chance of having hit the modifier it would take about 49 tries. for 90% it's closer to 25 times. Also, I'm looking at craft of exile and I think you may have been looking at aetheric, corroded, metallic, shuddering which is a 1/5 on a 86+ base. Corroded, jagged, metalic,shuddering is the 1/11. Same combo used when making minion wands.
@vleXeqt
2 жыл бұрын
they fcked up the whole game so they will never tell you.
@vleXeqt
2 жыл бұрын
the vision..
@AlexanderVoroncov
2 жыл бұрын
Informative👍
@Sherudons
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if all the weightings got changed to be so even more absurdly unlikely. It wouldn't shock me to learn the new head of development was a tencent employee at this rate.
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm beginning to wonder if it was changed. I really hope not and that I just got unlucky but after the things that have happened this patch, I wouldn't be surprised
@Rosspkc
2 жыл бұрын
anyone able to tell me why the exalt and divine prices swapped? havnt played the league
@miramichi30
2 жыл бұрын
They took away the divine for 6 link recipe, and started pricing metamod crafts in divines.
@Rosspkc
2 жыл бұрын
@@miramichi30 ahhhh makes sense ty
@grimmjowthepantera
2 жыл бұрын
I think Crafting is death ?
@Zub_Sero
2 жыл бұрын
I took a ilevel 85 +1 fractured all fire sceptre today, and it took me 66 rolls with the outlined 4 fossil combo to hit +1 all gems. I am either the WORST RNG seed player in existence or something is fucked with the weightings.
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah something is mega scuffed with Craft of Exile's calculations on that. A couple people explained it but not sure how it is THAT off. Even the simulation showed 1/11 but that can't be accurate either
@devinayaz9210
2 жыл бұрын
the fact it takes this much to reach this ...result.... just hurts.
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
Despite the pain and expense, this is an absolutely amazing weapon! Way beyond what is needed :D
@princecuddle
2 жыл бұрын
This sceptre is not even that bad to craft. My sceptre for aurabot is arguably much much worse. I have to get: +1 socketed strength gems (from faceted fossil) +1 all spell skill gems 2% dmg per aura (redeemer) Multi mod +2 socketed supports +7-8% quality socketed gems. This is for my smite setup which uses phantasm smite empower and enhance. Another option which would be best in slot would be to go for: +1 all spells +2 melee socketed +2 socketed support (craft) 2% dmg per aura Hatred aura effect +1 socketed strength gems Second version would give me a lv32 smite(lv21gem + 1 socketed strength + 7 from lv8 empower + 2 melee skills + 1 from ashes of the stars) and 100+ quality giving phantsmal smite 25% increased atk and cast speed as an aura buff which is boosted by my aura effect which is nearly 3x. So almost 75% increased attack and cast speed and what ever lightning dmg on a lv32 smite. This is absolutely op If you can help me plan out this craft for the sceptre I would be very grateful.
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah there absolutely are far more intense crafts, but when you only have like 2 hours in between your day job to try get a craft done along with a video edit, thumbnail and upload, and you keep getting rekt by stupid fossils, it's pretty tilting :D
@keldon1137
2 жыл бұрын
Why would u do it tho? Aura + Carry is facerolling any content anyway and u would need over 600 divines just for awakened empower and enhance, u miss generosity in the links for smite which is huge and u wont even have a good uptime on smite aura anyway, prolly gonna have like 80-85% chance to hit on it and if your carry is so busted u wont be able to hit anything with smite anyway.
@teemupuumalainen3051
2 жыл бұрын
Always asking how is everyone but how is Lolcohol?
@sregginetah88
2 жыл бұрын
damn boy I feel your unluck level
@langtonmwanza6689
2 жыл бұрын
Lol I just did this craft, I had to hit it 4 times because of failed annuals, I did about 1600c worth hit 4 times
@BartoszBielecki
2 жыл бұрын
I need this one!
@Vorador-8
7 ай бұрын
I watch this and no wonder he strggled, should've used aetheric instead of jagged.
@wolfgeralt
2 жыл бұрын
I have been baited by Craft of Exiles lots of time. Dont trust it anymore.. Simulated many times it says would get what I want around 300 alts but I spent 2000 alts still cant get what I want.
@inc0rect2011
2 жыл бұрын
now craft a double dot multi quiver and hand it over so i can spend my 5 devine that i did farm in 2 weeks. "yes i work"
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
Try doing some blighted maps! Very good currency :) I also have a job!
@inc0rect2011
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lolcohol ive did try most of the stuff, but with no dmg is kinda bad
@gokumonki3
2 жыл бұрын
my issue is i am farming and dont have the currency yet to craft, by this time id already have a good 50-60 ex (i thing like 20-30 div now) to throw at crafting and my gearing would be done. this new poe has taken my playtime and made it a crawl of a grind. it feels great when a monster drops 18 rare helms and you know each and every one is not worth the time it takes to pick up and ID then vendor and the uniques just feel so damn outta place, dropping a lvl 1 redbeak from a t15 boss. to be honest i think this league i might not even finish my challenges and come back for 3.20
@StayAWhileAndListen5
2 жыл бұрын
The currency changes alone make me not really want to play PoE... Crafting seems so much more expensive now.
@davidstefanovic1259
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice result at the end! But it ruined u those fossils, and divine cost craft anul.. :/
@DigitalKarlK
2 жыл бұрын
My jaw dropped by 2m in
@shanepurcell8116
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reminding me how much I hate GGG's crafting system. What a joke.
@604jackiechan
2 жыл бұрын
lmao this was so unlucky man
@IForestGumpI
2 жыл бұрын
this hurts to watch yikes. nice crafting video tho :D
@quincy7972
2 жыл бұрын
I still dont understand crafting after watching this
@stixx5760
2 жыл бұрын
666 CHAOS
@ua7890
2 жыл бұрын
crafting in poe 🤣
@bineata
2 жыл бұрын
It's unequivocally clear that GGG is systematically removing the majority of targetable mechanics and safe states , both in crafting, farming and class abilities in favour of RNG/time gating advancement in the game. Previous abilities went from guaranteed actions to be chance based or their effect were lowered considerably and strategically split as to force a choice of either or, for the player via gear attributes and atlas passives. Drop rates were considerably nerfed and there's now a severe disconnect between effort and rewards, in a way that player process and timelines are askew. It's a strategic and deliberate move to maintain the player engagement, by reducing their gains and forcing them to do the same or more in order to reach endgame, within a lesser frame. At this point leagues make no sense, as they are time sensitive events, and you are more than likely to spend the entirety of three months chasing a state where endgame is even a viable offering. Last three leagues, players reached level 90 in an average of four days. This league, nearly three weeks in, the majority haven't reached red maps yet and struggle to get past level 80. It's disheartening and feels very disingenuous on GGG's part.
@TheGargalon
2 жыл бұрын
obviously GGG hates its playerbase and wants us to suffer
@Evil_Arthas
2 жыл бұрын
Biggest scam i ever seen through watching videos, my luck looks similiar =''')
@Yomush
2 жыл бұрын
I don't see any "crafting" here. Only gambling disguised as crafting
@Lolcohol
2 жыл бұрын
Despite being really shitty at the start, there were a lot of steps in this that were expensive, but very deterministic. You can get +2 with crit chance and crit multi 100% deterministically. This was rough but not sure how much more of an item editor you want
@Yomush
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lolcohol I don't know man. The part with resonators made me die a little inside but when you had to yolo annul with the metamod it was a little too much. 10 divines burned just on that would be pretty discouraging for most people
@aroace7913
2 жыл бұрын
The whole game is a gamble, you can only try to nudge it in your favour.
@bradleymarris2967
2 жыл бұрын
You didn't look like you enjoyed any of this man, its pretty sad
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