As a young man, I was stopped with a couple friends while walking. The cop asked "Have you ever been in trouble before?" My friend replied "I didn't know we're in trouble now." That absolutely infuriated the cop.
@Ark-Angel44
Жыл бұрын
😂
@Jolis_Parsec
Жыл бұрын
And the popo decided to make your little encounter a heckuva lot more stressful thanks to your friend being a smartaleck, no doubt. Absolutely an ego trip for a number of these tin men, and they sure as heck don’t like people disrespecting their overinflated self importance. 😒
@charlessavoie2367
Жыл бұрын
I was coming out of Southern Methodist University library (as a visitor) around midnight. Two campus cops were parked behind me and when I entered my car, they turned their flashing lights on. They wanted to have a cop adventure by harassing someone. One of them, who was six feet seven (!!) asked me "have you ever been arrested before?" I sensed his meaning was to say "If you've ever been arrested before, that in and of itself gives us basis to arrest you now." One of them went into my car, without asking any OK from me, and searched. Finally I got to leave. Police are on a big ego/power trip and they routinely seize and detain people as if to say "We have you in our power now and you are completely defenseless and helpless. You are going to do all our will!" Police = HELL 666!
@marquisdelafayette1929
Жыл бұрын
As a freshman, one cop got pissy that we were still “loitering” and hadn’t left a basketball court in the 5 mins he gave. So he arrested ALL of us, all 40. The cop who drove me and a few others said his fellow cop was being a butthurt idiot. He swore up and down we all had to be drunk because one kid I went to school with had a stutter, stuttered when speaking with him. Every other cop could tell he wasn’t drunk. Everyone got “disorderly conduct” charges and had to write a stupid essay on the “detrimental effects on the community” teenagers have when they misbehave. 😂 Oh and add in a $250 fine because of course. Those disorderly conduct charges are used when they have no real charges against someone. Definitely shaped my extremely negative view of police.
@interstellarsurfer
Жыл бұрын
Congrats on paying his salary for the year. 👍
@Ojisan642
Жыл бұрын
The chief of police wants the community to “consider all the facts before making a judgment” but if only his officers did the same, they wouldn’t have ended up in this situation.
@scottjohnson8576
Жыл бұрын
Comment of the day!
@GladDestronger
Жыл бұрын
Something they forget conveniently a lot.
@melgreier1630
3 ай бұрын
I was going to comment the same thing! Great minds haha
@topramen5718
Жыл бұрын
I am a diabetic who unfortunately at age 15 was in diabetic shock . A school policeman saw me walking and stumbling on the sidewalk very close to school . According to a witness she saw the officer stop the car ask if I was drunk or on drugs I was incoherent an mumbling. The policeman got out of his car told me to stop several times before brutally attaking me and puting me in handcuffs . Despite having my necklace explaining who i was and that im diabetic and what to do if found in a diabetic shock state (apparently the officer didn't see my necklace) he was demanding ID which i didn't possess I was only 15 instead of the hospital I was taken to jail. Long story short my mother luckily knew a C.O at the jail who recognized me and emeidatly called my mother and an ambulance . I left the hospital 9 days later with a ruptured spleen, 2 broken fingers on my right had and nine stitches on my left ear and head . A year later the same officer was promoted to Sargent my father read this in the paper an was infuriated. He called a friend who was a newspaper journalist. After hearing my story he published it in the paper and it quickly spread around town . The officer admits heavy local scrutiny was fired. To this day he has never apologized or shown any regret for his unlawful actions .
@whearts
Жыл бұрын
It is amazing what happens when stories get publicized. This is why police hate cameras that show the truth and contradict false police reports.
@topramen5718
Жыл бұрын
@@whearts thank you for reading my post. The pen is mightier than the sword
@whearts
Жыл бұрын
@@topramen5718 No problem. You are not the first (or last) diabetic that will get mistreated. One smallish white guy had his episode in a car before he could get it to the bar ditch. I think he did manage to get it stopped, and the responding officer treated him as a drunk. I don't think they cared until the cuffs went on and they saw that red cross bracelet. I forget now if he went to jail or the hospital, I just remember seeing road rash on the side of his face in a picture.
@vickijohnson9367
Жыл бұрын
Good he was fired, sure he probably went to terrorize another place. Our incarceration “militarized” legal? Illegal? system is indoctrinated sociopaths on steroids, too much war, too much oppression, not a benevolent society, an imperial colonial society, nearing it’s demise. (That’s the only saving grace, we will eventually implode from within.)
@EXROBOWIDOW
Жыл бұрын
My husband recently had an incident where paramedics were called, because an EMT at an event thought he was having a stroke. He wasn't. The paramedics did not see his medical bracelet under his clothing, which had my phone number on it. I wouldn't expect a police officer to look for such things, but was disappointed the medics didn't see it. Like, what's the point of having those things if people don't see them?
@ropersonline
Жыл бұрын
Saying you _"want to apologise that this incident had such an effect on this young man and his family"_ *IS NOT AN APOLOGY.* That's just a condescending legalistic admit-nothing jack-donkey way of saying _"I'm sorry you feel that way"._
@Hevach
Жыл бұрын
If they were sorry this wouldn't be the second time this department made national news this year. It wouldn't be the twelfth time they made state news on MLive. They're not sorry and will keep doing this because they've been doing it for years.
@jpnewman1688
Жыл бұрын
Nah.. It's the sheep dogs saying the black 🐑 was lucky this time.. 😂😂
@DKNguyen3.1415
Жыл бұрын
I know, right? Apologize for the incident! Not it's effect. What he said was not a god damn apology.
@paulh2981
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree with you more. However, if he were to say "I'm sorry we handcuffed your son" then that could be used against the police department in a lawsuit. Any apology for actions can be used as evidence of wrongdoing. Police are therefore *not allowed* to apologize when they make mistakes. Now I'm not saying I agree with that "never apologize" policy, I'm just pointing out the reasoning behind it.
@jpnewman1688
Жыл бұрын
@@paulh2981 so you forgot the sheep dogs have qualified immunity?? 😂😂
@tonyk4615
Жыл бұрын
Let’s be absolutely clear, that was not an apology. The chief of police released a statement saying that “he would like to apologize”. An apology would be for the chief and arresting officer to go speak with them in person and say “I’m sorry. I made a mistake. It’s my fault and I accept responsibility”
@keithweiss7899
Жыл бұрын
You are correct! Another technique is to say “I’m sorry IF I did this to you”. A fake apology! People really need to learn that words mean something. Thank you for pointing this out!👍
@AndrewBlacker-wr2ve
Жыл бұрын
That behavior is impossible in police egoes.
@skaterlover1999
Жыл бұрын
Facts! However, even if it was a bona-fide apology, he STILL doesn't have to accept it! These officers are getting out of control! This family should sue...period, NO mere possibility.
@Ark-Angel44
Жыл бұрын
File a complaint with the DOJ civil rights division. Lawsuit against Lansing PD.
@xpusostomos
Жыл бұрын
" I would like to apologise, but my ego prevents me from doing so"
@krissisk4163
Жыл бұрын
So... let me get this straight. Cop was looking for a car thief, sees a 12 year old taking out the trash, and thinks that might be their car thief? Nah. That's bull. There's no excuse.
@ExUSSailor
Жыл бұрын
The police in this country are completely out of control, and, something needs to be done about them.
@GeorgieB1965
Жыл бұрын
So are criminals. In this case, this kid ain't it. But in blue states like Michigan, criminals are more out of control than the po-po.
@jamesalinio5277
Жыл бұрын
End all qualified immunity for all law enforcement district attorneys and judges
@davidtaylor4053
Жыл бұрын
The police wars are a coming.
@gierrah
Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgieB1965 are criminals out of control? Crime rates have only really been going down for a long time
@jeffkaczmarek3577
Жыл бұрын
The solution is simple, stop paying taxes. With no one to fund those parasties paychecks, patrol cars, lawsuit payouts, paid suspensions and pensions, those socialist sponges won't be able to keep their station open.
@thegenxgamerr
Жыл бұрын
Once again, a tyrant can crap all over the citizens rights and is never held accountable. Had enough yet?
@JayTemple
Жыл бұрын
Enforce the Second Amendment and you won't have that problem.
@agord7591
Жыл бұрын
All I know is if they fuck with me to badly,Im ready to be another "Killdozer". That's the only thing tyrants understand.
@sandhilltucker
Жыл бұрын
Yes, let's free all the criminals, defend the police and ban all the guns! Violence is happening as a result? I know, let's make it a *communist* police state. 😂 liberals make me laugh. Trying to punish everyone for the actions of someone else. Who is becoming the abusive cop?
@pauldickhoff3594
Жыл бұрын
@@JayTemple To enforce a law you'll need law enforcement. You see the problem here?
@mysty0
Жыл бұрын
@@pauldickhoff3594 Wrong! To Enforce the Law you need to Lubricate it with the Blood of Tyrants!
@qwerty9131
Жыл бұрын
I like how the chief asks the community to " consider all the facts of the situation before making a judgement" in response to a situation where the police did not consider all the facts about a situation before making a judgement
@joshuaghan9279
Жыл бұрын
This will continue until police start facing charges for their criminal actions.
@charlest7962
Жыл бұрын
And a union will have them reinstatement almost instantly and qualified immunity will say they did nothing wrong
@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916
Жыл бұрын
Idk why you seem to think this isn't intentional. It's not bad policing or being inept. They intentionally do shit like this to remind people that we work for them, and they can or will kill anybody who fights them. It's the entire goal of the government at this point in history, and it's only going to continue to escalate.
@the_expidition427
Жыл бұрын
Remove police unions officers already work for the public it is a state owned industry
@jamesalinio5277
Жыл бұрын
end all qualified immunity for all law enforcement, district attorneys and judges, nothing but legal crooks that use their laws against you
@philipgriessel5315
Жыл бұрын
Maybe we should start sending judges to prison.
@PilotFlight2Mars
Жыл бұрын
I’m a white Aussie. As a little kid in my community Police we’re super nice. I had a Sesame Street poster on my bedroom wall that said ‘Policemen are your friend.’ My Dad worked with and socialised with Police. I saw them drunk and off duty and my parents work parties and thought they were rude bullies, but not malicious. As a teen, it all changed. My friends and I couldn’t walk around without Police stopping us and insulting and swearing at us. We had a youth night curfew and Police saw all teens as criminals. In my heart I felt like Police were supposed to be my ‘friend’. But the unprofessional abuse and accusations and threats destroyed my trust in police to this day. I have grandchildren now. I was never a criminal. Even my dealing with Police as a victim and witness were soul destroying. Australian Police are rude and aggressive. A google search would show how quick to violence Australian police are. My house was broken into a few years ago and I didn’t phone the Police. The way they conduct themselves is with contempt and make American tyrants seem tame. I mourn the feeling of safety I had as kid with police.
@punkinhaidmartin
Жыл бұрын
That is exactly why we will not give up our 2nd amendment rights and are fighting tooth and nail to undo the erosion of them.
@notjohn439
Жыл бұрын
@@punkinhaidmartin Lmao. What are you doing to fight police with the second amendment? Nothing. US police are far worse than most industrialized countries, so what exactly are you using that second amendment for? To collect guns and feel like a big man while US police operate like a cartel, except more violent.
@GilmerJohn
Жыл бұрын
Things have changed for the worse. C. 1960 the cops looked for an excuse to NOT make an arrest. Now they look for excuses to "detail" or arrest.
@nodak81
Жыл бұрын
You guys watch Sesame Street down there? I didn't think that was a thing outside of the USA. Here the police issue usually comes down to chance. There are good cops but there are lots of bad cops and which one you get is a roll of the dice.
@ERNESTBASS-h2o
Жыл бұрын
I've heard , don't really know but heard they don't carry guns over there , if true that would be the game changer to being nice .kind of hard to believe but.......correct me if I'm wrong
@MelissiaBlackheart
Жыл бұрын
The times I dealt with police were pretty traumatizing. Either they blew us off and ignored us when someone stole from our house, or they were trying to lecture me about something I didn't even do, or they were trying to tell me that I have no right to defend myself is someone assaults me, that makes me "just as bad" as the boy that was pulling my hair and punching me in the gut.
@MelissiaBlackheart
Жыл бұрын
People trust police too much. Remember, police aren't there to protect you. They are not legally obligated to do so and in fact doing so goes against department policy.
@arinerm1331
Жыл бұрын
Nobody ever claimed that police departments recruit rocket scientists to be doughnut dumpsters; as a matter of fact, the opposite is so true that it's now illegal in the U.S. to use an IQ test in the course of the hiring process. The SCOTUS made that ruling in the case of a person who was denied a position on the police force because he scored too **high** on the IQ test they used to screen candidates.
@MonkeyJedi99
Жыл бұрын
Don't you know? Defending yourself with violence is only legal if you're in the blue gang.
@sendthis9480
Жыл бұрын
I watched a fatal accident once, right in front of me. 4 way intersection…I had a red. Car started crossing the intersection and another car traveling towards me, T-boned the car crossing. From my perspective I was looking at the passenger side of victims car…and victim was hit on drivers side. No other cars anywhere on the road. Cop said I didn’t see anything, and I wasn’t a witness (even though I was the only other person there). He said I saw the ramifications of the accident, but I couldn’t be 100% certain as to what actually hit the victim. Like…he agreed I saw the victims car. He agreed I saw the suspects car coming. But “technically” a giant satellite could have fallen from the sky at the exact moment and caused the accident….or something?!??? I guess I saw the back-side of the impact…but not the front of the impact??? I don’t know. It was really weird. It was as if he knew the suspect. I never got anywhere following up.
@ScottMStolz
Жыл бұрын
I once had a Sheriff's deputy tell me that fraud wasn't a crime and it was the victim's fault for getting scammed. I'm guessing that's why theft and fraud are so high these days. The police won't enforce the law.
@artbrandon4958
Жыл бұрын
It's time to make all police candidates not only have extensive background checks, lawfully and especially psychologically; but have a full year of actual school/classroom training before a two year probationary period before becoming an actual police officer. MAKE THEM LEARN THE LAWS THEY SUPPOSEDLY UPHOLD
@ulysses8785
Жыл бұрын
I beleive German police officers must have a 4 year degree.
@markseubert9779
Жыл бұрын
Should be is school at least as long as a doctor
@jmodified
Жыл бұрын
@@ulysses8785 There are departments in the US where that is required also, or at least there once were. I used to live where the state police required a 4 year degree. Of the interactions I had with police there, they were always thoughtful and respectful while the city and county police were almost always jerks.
@kirklanyoshinaga8953
Жыл бұрын
The problem is that there’s no real accountability in the cases, at least from what I’ve seen which is why there seems to be so many a***hole cops. If there was a system of accountability for wrongful arrests, blatant racism/bigotry, ignorance and disregard of the law, we would have far, far less of these kinds of things.
@leestokes6761
Жыл бұрын
I have two younger brothers who are retired police officers. In Utah, a background check is required, probationary period is a must,. Some departments require a two year Associate’s Degree, preferably with a law enforcement emphasis. Doesn’t solve all the problems as some rural counties or towns don’t have the budget for training and it’s often a case of accepting the applicants you get. You get away from the Wasatch Front (Brigham City South to Santiquin, or St. George or Cedar City, and the towns are very small and isolated. Attracting talent to those mostly rural communities is a tough thing. Especially if you consider your children will likely move away and not come back after high school due to the lack of economic opportunity.
@jessclark9725
Жыл бұрын
This to me smells like fishing for an easy confession. I live in a bad area, and as a young white person, I was stopped regularly. I live in the same area now as an older person now, and the police don’t mess with me like they did when I was 15-20. I used to be stopped frequently (once or twice a week at some points), and once asked them why it seemed like they talked to me every time they saw me. The only real answers I ever got was “young people out alone are up to no good” (I’m alone cause I’m walking home from work, you dicks), and, GET THIS, for being “frequent foot traffic in a high-crime area” (being too poor to buy a car while living in the poor part of town as a barely-adult). The only factor that has changed between then and now is that I look older.
@owenblount7334
Жыл бұрын
My PD leaves me alone now because they know I’m a smart ass and can read laws. They used to harass me about exterminating invasive species with an air rifle in a jurisdiction with no air gun ordinances like killing them isn’t fucking encouraged.
@gunther4598
Жыл бұрын
Yes, there are cops who put almost all "suspects" in cuffs for "officer safety" while "detaining" someone for "acting suspiciously" by walking down a road in broad daylight, regardless of age.
@etherraichu
Жыл бұрын
and they shouldn't. It makes people hate them. I don't think the cops understand that part.
@annetunstall967
Жыл бұрын
As a child in the 1960's, I used to use a squeezy bottle of water to draw on the pavement as my dad wouldn't allow us to use chalk and a neighbours dog ran up to me and got in the way of the water -I didn't see it. It screamed as it ran away yelping so loudly that you would have thought I had poured acid on it ,next thing I know the dogs owner snatched the almost full squeezy bottle from me and removed the top pouring the water all over me I was soaked ! My mum called the police and the woman who used to leave her dogs to howl all day was evicted for assaulting a child. I was as I remember really scared when the police came as I thought I would be arrested and taken to prison, I was 6. So yes the police can be scary.
@gorkyd7912
Жыл бұрын
You know what's scarier than police? Getting sued and your livelihood destroyed because of the fears of children.
@Person01234
Жыл бұрын
@@gorkyd7912 *for assaulting children. Then maybe don't assault children.
@badbiker666
Жыл бұрын
My cousin was riding his bike in his own neighborhood when he was stopped by police. He was arrested handcuffed, and placed in the back of the squad car. He had been accused of indecent exposure by someone who, apparently, was sitting on their porch when he rode by and believed they could see his junk. After he was cuffed and placed in the vehicle, one of the cops (I don't remember if it was the same one that arrested him) noticed that what he was wearing - cut off jean shorts - were too long for his junk to have been accidentally exposed, and there was pretty much no possible way for him to have exposed himself while riding, which was what the complainant told the police. He was released without any charges, but I no longer remember how long it took for that to happen. I also don't remember if he was released before or after being transported to the police station. This happened about 50 years ago. In fact, both he and I are retired now and this was when he was in his early teems, like 14 or 15. But it was traumatic enough that he and I still remember it. I've lost many details, I'll be he hasn't!
@HighHolyOne
Жыл бұрын
Years ago I had to appear in juvenile court in Chicago on behalf of a young friend. Huge foyer, and I witnessed a 250 lb. cop escorting a handcuffed kid who could not have been older than 7, and maybe 80 lbs. I was shocked that a boy of this age and size could be such a terror to a large grown man that handcuffs were required. The child himself looked traumatized, and I always wondered how his life went. IMHO, if you treat a child as a criminal, he will fulfill your expectations.
@gorkyd7912
Жыл бұрын
Some kids are criminals. The handcuffs protect everyone. Children are inexperienced, sometimes they make stupid decisions. If you're 80 pounds and you try to run or fight with a 250lb cop it probably won't end well for you, so the handcuffs help dissuade that possibility.
@katydid2877
Жыл бұрын
So, from videos I’ve seen tons of kids in public school need to be handcuffed.@@gorkyd7912
@etherraichu
Жыл бұрын
studies have shown that if you put a kid that young in handcuffs, for any reason, they are more likely to become criminals. They'll assume that police treat them badly no matter what they do and lose all respect for authority.
@etherraichu
Жыл бұрын
@@gorkyd7912 Handcuffs can only hurt kids that young, never help them. Never. This is without exception.
@aliceiscalling
Жыл бұрын
@@etherraichu The only possibility I could ever see is if the child has violent outbursts, but even then, it would be best to use padded restraints rather than handcuffs that could cause the child to hurt themselves.
@Gray_the_Great
Жыл бұрын
This just shows why, from the time my kids (2 of which are now grown) were able to talk, they were told what their rights are. They were taught how to tell police that they do not answer questions, they need an attornery immediately, and then to remain silent or walk away if not being detained. Teach them young and continue to teach them as they grow older.
@Gangsta1168
Жыл бұрын
Did you teach them not to VOTE for their masters?? 😂😂😂
@Gray_the_Great
Жыл бұрын
@JP-ho6zc I taught them to VOTE for the best candidate that holds their values. Regardless of political party. I also taught them how to hit the bullseye with every shot, thats its called a magazine, not a clip, and to protect themselves and others at all cost.
@kefkamadman
Жыл бұрын
@@Gray_the_Great Good values to pass on to your descendants.
@mykeride
Жыл бұрын
@@Gangsta1168 Yeah, it's a little-known fact of common-law, that if you choose not to vote, that makes you immune from any harassment or prosecution for the laws passed by those whom you didn't vote into office!
@Gangsta1168
Жыл бұрын
@@Gray_the_Great really?? So you taught your kids to VOTE for narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths to be their masters and be well-trained law abiding 🐑 🐑.. 😄😄
@960027079
Жыл бұрын
I had just gotten my drivers license at 16. My parents forced me to so I could manage my younger sister's pick up and drop off needs (she was in a ton of sports). I was terrified of driving. Day one on my own picking up my sister, I'm pulled over by a police man because I was driving suspiciously (carefully and exactly at the speed limit) when he was looking for a female who robbed a store. Why me? Becaue I had a ponytail and was driving carefully. My only matching freature was white female wearing a ponytail. This made my fear of driving worse for awhile. Then when I went away to college I was pulled over because my tire looked flat. The policeman at that time was super kind, helped me put air in the tire and recommended a local auto shop that was known to decrease labor prices to student who could prove good grades. I think the police profession attracts a lot of men who like to control others and should probably have a psych eval, but it also attracts some who are genuinely good people. I've had other run-in for accidents, random stops for seatbelt checks, and so on, and for the most part everyone has been kind and professional. My husband who is black has been stopped twice for random things that were not yraffic violations. His experience is completely different than mine. He wont even ride a bike or walk our neighborhood without me. He sees my white presence as protection for him in public spaces. Poor guy is terrified of police.
@charlescraig3892
Жыл бұрын
I can totally understand the kid. When I was 11 I needed a inner tube for my bike, my parents needed to do some shopping in the store next to the Kmart where we were going to purchase the inner tube. Me not wanting to shop for home decor with my parents decided to go find the proper inner tube and wait for my parents in the Kmart. After what seemed to be an eternity I decided to see what was keeping my parents. As I exited the Kmart, I was grabbed and thrown to the ground, I hit the ground hard enough to cause my glasses to fly off my face, skinned my knee, elbows and chin. Not knowing who was attacking me I tried to get away only to have a knee pressed into my back and my hands pinned behind me. Few seconds later I here my dad asking what is going on? The attacker replied store security then released me and ran into the store so fast I didn't see his face, only his back as he went back into the Kmart. My father went straight to the customers desk and asked to speak to someone and told me to go get the inner tube for my bike. As I walked to the back of the store I noticed Kmart employees shadowing me at the end of every isle. Felt like a walk of shame. I dont remember anything after that. I don't know if we even paided for the inner tube or if the store just gave it to us. I do know it has had an effect on me threw my life and made me hyper aware of employees in stores while shopping. Also probably because in my mind that altercation was never resolved, I have a little anxiety when exiting a store or when I set off the store security monitors at the exit or even when asked to present my receipt. Don't get me started on self check out.....Did you know if you move your right arm a certain way it will think you have passed an item over the scanner with out it scanning and lock your station and alert the attendant. From the observer's point of view something may not appear to be all that traumatic, like my father in this case. He probable gave the manager a good once over while i was off getting the inner tube and getting the item for free was in his eyes compensation enough.
@whearts
Жыл бұрын
Walmart doesn't pay me enough to do Self Checkout. No training, good chance of jail. Hire more cashiers.
@anonymous_protagonist
Жыл бұрын
When I was 9 years-old I was playing in my front yard one day and this police car stopped in front of my house and the officer called out to me. [Up until this point in time I was in complete awe of the police and thought they were wonderful.] Then this ... person proceeded to interrogate me in an incredibly derogatory manner and tell me that he knows I robbed a house down the street. [Me, a clean-cut quiet 9 year-old playing with airplanes in my front yard.] I don't know how long it went of for exactly, but it seemed like an eternity as he kept escalating it and escalating it - making it clear I was about to go to jail. Eventually he stopped, whether he was satisfied it wasn't me or if his inner sociopath had finally got it's jollies, I don't know. I do know it traumatized the heck out of me: I never played in my front yard again and I have distrusted the police ever since. I can only image the horror that 12 year-old went through while being handcuffed and walked to the car. As a society we really need to put on more pressure to have these thugs properly trained like they do in other countries.
@DKNguyen3.1415
Жыл бұрын
wtf
@RonSafreed
Жыл бұрын
Same type of cop will not confront a school shooter but will arrest diabetics injecting insulin & diabetics have been arrested by cops thinking insulin is really an illicit drug!!
@RonSafreed
Жыл бұрын
BTW did you tell your parents about that brutal/bully/psycho-cop accusing & harrassing you in the front yard & what did they do about it!!
@sweetreamer5101
Жыл бұрын
This totally happened.
@anonymous_protagonist
Жыл бұрын
@@sweetreamer5101 You're certainly entitled to your opinion and super-psychic pretend play time.
@lordofduct
Жыл бұрын
Think about when I was 12 and... Well when I was 10-12 years old back in the early 90s in the apartment complex I grew up in I was regularly handcuffed and harassed by cops for little reason. Accused of breaking & entering, vandalizing, etc. Me and my buddies got hockey sticks to go play street hockey at the basketball court? No, they're for smashing windows! My mother would often come out screaming and hollering at the cops to stop harassing us on a regular basis. One day, while sitting on the swings, one of the cops showed up. He walked across the park area to where the apt complex had dumped some sand on the ground for a volleyball court (this shit was low effort, as was everything in this complex... it was section-8 welfare housing). My younger brother, maybe 8 at the time, was sitting in the sand playing with it. The copper, who was actually the father of a boy in my social studies class (lets just say he and I didn't get along very well), walked up to my brother and we could see he said some things to my brother and then flipped a coin into the air and it landed in my brothers lap. As the copper walked away my brother stood up holding the coin in his hand looking at it and than at the cop and back at the coin. Then he began to run at the cop, climb up his back, and wrap his legs around the guys torso. While hanging on to him like a monkey he just sat there beating the copper up side the head. Smacking/punching/screaming. The cop dropped to his knees and flailed to get my brother off of him. Finally he did, tossing my brother to the side, and he got up and ran to his cop car and drove away. My buddy and I come running up to find out what the fuck the cop said, and my brother sat there on the ground fists clenched and seething. Through his gritted teeth he kept saying: "Never call my mom a whore." Turned out what the cop had said while flipping the coin at my brother was "Tell your mom she was good the other night." ... I moved across the country when I was 13 to live with my father. I had the impression in my head the cops back where I was from were assholes cause they had a thing against my family. I mean... my father did move across the country because the local coppers had it out for him (complicated situation, my pops circle of friends had some chaos around it including the murder of his best friend/business partner, some staties had it that my dad was the killer and made his life a living hell. Murder technically is still unsolved to this day, but I can assure you it wasn't my dad. My dad found the body with me in tow. He tossed literally picked me up and threw me so I wouldn't see the body. My dad wouldn't have brought his 4 year old to the murder scene of someone he killed. Of course I can't really ask him about it today, he's been dead for going on 20 years now). So when I got to my new state I figured hey... maybe this shit will go away! Boy was I wrong. While back home in New England coppers would harass me. In the end they would bring me home, and not to the station. In Florida... they arrest your ass, leave you in a cell, and laugh at you when your dad can't pick you up because he's in NY hauling a load and won't be home for another 24 hours at the earliest (and that's if he breaks the law when it comes to allowed hours in a truck... note I technically had a guardian in the form of my step mom, but she wasn't an official guardian yet, paperwork hadn't been completed after swapping to my father from my bio-mom, so she technically wasn't allowed to have custody released to). One day a copper stops me for not wearing my helmet on my bike. Thing is in New England the law was under 13 you were required to wear a helmet. Turns out in Florida it was under 16. So here I am saying to the copper when he asked me where my helmet was "Oh, I'm 13." Without batting an eye he grabs me by my arm and lifts me off my bike (note I was a tiny boy... didn't get hair until I was 15, and I weighed < 90lbs at the time, and weighed less than 120lb until I was in my 20s). He lets my feet to the ground now, but I'm still holding my bike in my hands. He demands I lay on the ground and put my hands behind my back and that I'm under arrest. I'm bewildered at this point... it's a fucking helmet dude... AND I'M 13!!!! I keep protesting that I'm 13 under the impression I didn't need a helmet and asking wtf is going on. He gets fed up and body slams me into the ground, puts his knee against the back of my neck, and wrestles me into handcuffs. Ended up spending 2 days in jail waiting for my dad to get home over that one. Not my longest wait either. On another occasion a copper arrested me because a kid who was walking with me on the sidewalk threw peppermint candy into traffic. That kid bolted, I stayed behind because well... I didn't do it... I was a witness! Still got arrested, tossed in jail for a felony charge of "launching a deadly missile", and spent nearly 4 days in jail waiting for my pops. (I won't lie... technically I knew the kid who threw the candy. It was... I guess you could call him a 'cousin'? I honestly can't tell you his relation to me, but he was the son of this German woman who is my aunt? cousin? something? They had moved from Berlin to Florida and lived next door to us in the apartment complex. Again, couldn't ask to find out today, they too are all dead. Lets just say, most of my family is dead today. But yeah, I had only met the kid that week, and well while I was willing to tell the cops he was blonde, tall, and road a skateboard, I didn't know his name... ala I ain't no snitch) ... Lets just say I learned from a very early age not to like the cops. I haven't been arrested in over 20 years now, but boy howdy am I still on watch. I don't make the dumb mistake of "waiting" for cops to show up even if I did nothing wrong. I hear cops are coming? Bye Felicia, I'm outs.
@thatguy3493
Жыл бұрын
When I was 12 I was walking home when a sheriff’s deputy stopped and threw me in the back of his car and took me to the station without ever asking me anything. I was finally released after 3 hours when my parents came and got me. I haven’t trusted the police since.
@Montross4440
Жыл бұрын
That's fucked up.
@erickrobertson7089
Жыл бұрын
Yup. Been there. Was handcuffed, so was a freind. Cuffed hands placed on the hood of a Caprice which probably had been running 90+ mph trying to get to our location. We had been out four wheeling at night with an IH Scout I owned at the time. Police had been called by an adjacent property owner who claimed we had broken into his pickup and stole a stereo. No such thing happened. We had no idea what was going on, it was dark and we were pulled over and surrounded by local and sheriffs squads. That Caprice hood was hot, hot, hot. Wouldn't let us move our hands to a different part of the car. Had to keep them on the hood and above the radiator. Honestly I think we left with burns. They searched my truck too. Incident probably lasted 15 or 20 minutes. I left a distinct impression on me and it wasn't a good one. I can imagine that would be terrifying to the kid. I was 18 or 19, not 12. He has my sympathy and I hope he outgrows the fear.
@mfcobb1
Жыл бұрын
The Officer Friendly I was introduced to in 1st grade in 1973 is gone. Back then folks had gun racks in their pickup trucks with guns on them. You have to ask yourself what has changed? In 1976 we celebrated 200 years of Liberty. That year is a favorite memory of mine. They have been taking away our Liberties one by one since then.
@dsolosan
Жыл бұрын
As a kid, I went to a local store with my older brother and a friend. While we were looking at the toy selection, a guy comes by and says, "Come with me." He led us to an office and accused the friend of stealing something (he had). We had to call our parents and sign paperwork that we would not return to the store. I remember that I was on the verge of crying, and terrified of what my strict parents would do. Then I got home and they didn't say anything about it. At that point I realized that I hadn't done anything wrong and needn't have worried. But that incident scared the heck out of me. And I never forgot that feeling of being accused of something.
@DonFahquidmi
Жыл бұрын
But Steve, what about the drawn weapon? From what I've seen lately when police draw their weapons they usually point them right at the victim placing them in danger of death from an accidental discharge. This needs to be a part of the conversation just as much as the handcuffs.
@davidh9638
Жыл бұрын
That constitutes assault with a deadly weapon. He should be charged.
@DonFahquidmi
Жыл бұрын
@@davidh9638 Or at least reckless endangerment. There was a time when many police departments required officers to file a report any time they drew their weapons. Now it's just business as usual.
@MDbandit10
Жыл бұрын
None of yall know the facts of case I see. And this video guy left them out
@Some_Guy6
Жыл бұрын
@@davidh9638 And false arrest, kidnapping, harrasing a minor, assaulting a minor, etc....
@tvc1848
Жыл бұрын
@@davidh9638 How is drawing a weapon an assault?
@erikliljenwall8185
Жыл бұрын
Police Chief: “Consider all the facts in this situation before making a judgement.” You mean like your officers did when they pulled their weapon on a 12 year-old boy and then handcuffed him? Yeah, that seems fair. /s
@maskydoo7871
Жыл бұрын
I'm most upset that a gun was apparently drawn. There was no reason at all for that, even if he was the suspect.
@jackhammer8563
Жыл бұрын
I as a father and an American would never accept any apology for police doing that to my son when my son was 12.
@RideGasGas
Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, police officers were still relatively respected. Qualified immunity was created by the Supreme Court in ~1967 so when I was twelve cops hadn't gone bad yet. This decision literally damaged the immune system of police allowing the tumorous growth of bad attitude and we aren't subject to being held accountable to the Constitution and other laws we enforce upon the public. Even though policing is like number 25 on the list of most dangerous jobs, the lack of accountability has fostered a shoot first and don't question later mentality of officer safety being above all else. This despite the fact that it is more dangerous being a landscaper or construction worker. Add police unions and thin blue line gangs complete with gang colors and tattoos and civil asset forfeiture and you get literally armed bands performing highway robberies daily.
@MaryCumbersnatch
Жыл бұрын
Going back to when police were overseers on plantations: They've always been bad.
@markstuber4731
Жыл бұрын
Cops were bad in 1967? Remember the video where Lehto told us about the cops raiding a news room because they wanted to prevent a story from being published? He told us a book he wrote about cops doing the same thing for earlier than 1967 and explained how such corruption was more common.
@Person01234
Жыл бұрын
@@MaryCumbersnatch There's a difference between black people not being regarded as citizens at all and the cops failing to serve and protect the citizens. Most people supported the system of slavery in the US back in the day, and honestly most would probably do so again under the right circumstances. You can say they're "bad" and that's fair but it's obviously not what he was talking about. Police in the US no longer even fulfill the basic functions of policing. They have become nothing more than a paramilitary force tasked with ensuring civil obedience and generally doing the things that occupying paramilitaries do. You might still be able to argue that they never were good police, but the fact that they enforced slavery laws is not a good example of that. We're not talking about whether every individual police officer is a good person.
@mangos2888
Жыл бұрын
Have you seen LA Confidential? 😂 Cops were absolutely corrupt back then, too, but people didn't have the ability to question it. The qualified immunity issue didn't become legal until someone finally did try to stand up to them. That ruling was a damn shame.
@kelf114
Жыл бұрын
@@Person01234 Most people "supported" slavery "back in the day"???? So we're just going to ignore the Underground Railroad, freedom in Northern states, and a whole war? "Most" people???
@isaacbobjork7053
Жыл бұрын
"I want to apologise that this incident had such an effect on this young man and his family" "I want to apologize that you started bleeding when I hit you in the face"
@JadeyCatgirl99
Жыл бұрын
"But since you got your blood on my uniform, we are going to send you the cleaning bill"
@CinJyxxe
Жыл бұрын
It's so important to remember that as adults, we have so much more brain development and life experience to work with than 12 year olds do, and we can process and contextualise trauma, like being wrongfully handcuffed by a police officer, way more effectively than any child can. It's almost impossible for us to understand what that boy went through, because we can't undo all that experience we've gained since we were 12. That poor kid will never forget the time he was almost arrested for doing his chores, and it will probably take a lot of time and counseling to get him to understand that he didn't do anything wrong.
@robertadams8192
Жыл бұрын
Even many adults have trouble getting over police actions. It will be worse for a child!
@interstellarsurfer
Жыл бұрын
I guarantee the kid is mature enough to know **exactly** who did the wrong, and to know that they'll always get away with it.
@JP-gi7dw
Жыл бұрын
Is that why adults keep playing the stupid game of VOTING for the corrupt system to be their masters then HOPE for CHANGE?? 😂😂
@edl2nd
Жыл бұрын
I hear what you're saying, but I have a different perspective. It won't take the kid years of therapy to know he didn't do anything wrong. He already knows that. What will take him years of therapy will be getting over the the Earned Distrust of the police that this incident will have implanted in him for the rest of his life.
@frotoe9289
Жыл бұрын
It's really variable by individual, I think, even more than by age. A lot of 12yo's are downright used to being physically shoved around, whacked, or sometimes handcuffed. And a lot of people, even young people with no experience in the matter, can rationalize "let it continue, they aren't hurting you, and it will eventually get figured out". But some people, regardless of the age, can't handle being held, let alone handcuffed. Think about all the Karen videos where a woman thought she was justified to do something criminal and then absolutely goes insane(insaner?) when the cops tell her she's being arrested and start to do the cuffs. And in this case it's probably just a normal 12yo who's not been in any trouble, hasn't had any of the events of youth that can harden a kid, and now was betrayed by the folks he thought were there to protect him. Only "held against my will" event of youth was when a Alco store security droid decided someone, but he was unsure which, of our group of three had shoplifted. He wasn't even sure what he was looking for. But by golly he just KNEW one of us had pilfered something. So we quietly stood in the entryway alcove and emptied our pockets for him, lifted our shirts to show nothing hidden in there, let him pat us down. And then we just kinda glared at him as he stammered "well, you put it down, then, but I guess you can go--THIS time". We had done nothing of the sort. it disturbed my friend's little brother (probably 10yo). It was just kinda funny to the two of us one year and two years older, though it was also a tad embarrassing and I surely did NOT want any friend or neighbor reporting to my mom "I saw Frotoe being frisked at Alco yesterday--what was that about?" Mom would either have decided I was lying, or much more likely gone ape spit on Alco for what I thought was a trivial incident. If handcuffs had been involved it might have been different but I think my friend and I would have still come out of it fine--the younger one mighta been truly screwed up by that, though.
@RRW359
Жыл бұрын
"Kids today don't go outside anymore" *Kid gets a gun pointed at him and handcuffed for going outside* Also they can't say "wrong place, wrong time" when he's literally on his property.
@alg190
Жыл бұрын
When it comes to cops, what has happened to common sense. What is the purpose of handcuffs? This 12 year old could of easily been questioned or even been placed in the car without cuffs pending investigation or properly identified.
@nthdominion
Жыл бұрын
Minors should never be questioned without a parent/guardian. If they cannot consent to a contract as they are underage, they do not know their rights.
@charliedulin
Жыл бұрын
Actually probably not. In most jurisdictions they have to be cuffed if you place them in the back seat.
@LevinQGame
Жыл бұрын
In some places it's policy to not hire officers above a certain education level. So when you get right down to it it's a feature not a bug that cops are sought out to lack common sense.
@EnthalpyAndEntropy
Жыл бұрын
Appeal to common sense is a logical fallacy. It has never been all that common and it’s often wrong when it is common.
@arnezbridges93
Жыл бұрын
Ah there was never common sense. There was an Era of Irish cops that worked super hard to overcome "racism" and elevated community law enforcement for a long time. But those guys are no longer around and the pice has been infiltrated by the kkk. That's not a conspiracy, but an official FBI report from a decade or so back.
@GearZenChannel
Жыл бұрын
I was taught about "officer friendly" as a kid. Forget that. I am teaching my child "NEVER talk to the police. Ask for a lawyer, ask for your parents, and stay silent." The world has changed.
@barryervin8536
Жыл бұрын
The biggest change has been that now everybody has cameras and we get to see what these thugs do. Back in the "Good Old Days" of "Officer Friendly" we just had to blindly accept that all cops were heroes who wouldn't lie to us.
@MishaMishaSoprano
Жыл бұрын
@@barryervin8536 ☝️
@jsedbe0624
Жыл бұрын
Just like it was a “mistake” for the Frisco, TX police department to hold a family at gun point.
@shorty430551
Жыл бұрын
I was harassed most of my childhood by police because the guy my mother chose to date was well known by them, not for anything I had actually done. I was never cuffed but never was there time that they'd see me and not stop me or as I got older chase me through town. (I got away on more than one occasion too) They never had anything more than "just wanna talk to you" for a reason, always asking questions I didn't have the answers too or even understand what they meant usually. I get where this family is coming from and I hope they get some form of restitution. I have learned they're not all bad, but the bad cops have got to go, crap like this unacceptable.
@meredithw1000
Жыл бұрын
I was 25 when I was working by myself and the police broke into my workplace (the doorbell didn't work and it was locked) and that was still about the most stressful day of my life. I can't imagine being 12.
@maxsdad538
Жыл бұрын
Dad may not accept an apology, but a 6 figure payout will go a long way towards smoothing hurt feelings.
@youtubevanced4900
Жыл бұрын
When your handcuffing a child, you have to be thinking, yeah this is going to result in a lawsuit and probable firing.
@MrKago1
Жыл бұрын
i had horrible experiences as a kid living in a large city. when I started high school we moved to a tiny little town. had nothing but good interactions with those cops. makes a difference when everyone knows everyone else.
@paulh2981
Жыл бұрын
Cops can't make real apologies when they mess up, even if they're actually sorry. Very strict policies against it. The reason is because any direct apology for something they did can be used against them in a lawsuit. That's why they have someone make apologetic-sounding noises without ever owning up to any mistakes on their part. I'm not saying this policy is right, I'm only saying why it exists.
@williamstockdale4833
Жыл бұрын
Criminals Don t make real apologies it s ok 🦋 I lie all the time
@Rowgue51
Жыл бұрын
It's also important to point out that every encounter with a cop is a potentially deadly encounter. Regardless of what the circumstances are or whether you're completely innocent or not. All it takes is one yahoo in a uniform to get a bruised ego or think he saw something he didn't see and that person they "just wanted to talk to" ends up dead.
@davidturner4987
Жыл бұрын
WhenI was 17 my friends and I were walking home from school through a parking lot and someone in one of the stores called the cops and told them my friend had a gun in his hand, it was his black hat, next thing I know we have three cops pull up and get out of their cars pointing guns at us. They had us lay down on the ground, handcuffed us and searched us while never taking those guns off us until they were certain we weren't armed. It scared the shit out of us. My friends and I are white so I often wonder how that would have gone were we not. I know the police have a tough job but I also know there needs to be a better way to do it.
@gorkyd7912
Жыл бұрын
Having armed citizens who aren't terrified of people for merely carrying guns, which is actually our right if you're in America, would help. Instead of calling the police the store worker would just make sure their own gun is handy in case your friend starts anything.
@martinvanderplas5815
Жыл бұрын
@@gorkyd7912 His friend had a black hat or cap in his hand... What could've he been starting with that?
@gorkyd7912
Жыл бұрын
@@martinvanderplas5815 So you know for a fact the store worker saw a hat / cap but still called and lied about it being a gun?
@martinvanderplas5815
Жыл бұрын
@@gorkyd7912 I only know/assume that the store worker saw 'something' that in his (paranoid? panicked?) mind looked like a gun. Just place yourself in the friend of @davidturner4987 and it was YOU with a black hat/cap in your hand. Being put to the ground at gunpoint (probably with confusing shouted demands by cops), handcuffed et cetera and treated like a criminal. One sudden move and you would be shot (cops had gun in hand, no taser). Still 'no big deal' right? Just reading through your other comments my educated guess is that you would thank the cops for keeping the community safe and thank them for their professionalism for not shooting you in the first place... BTW (according to one of your previous comments when you were 14 yrs young), is it somebody's fault to be in a 'high crime area/neighborhood' or... is it a high crime area/neighborhood because cops don't know how to do their job properly?
@MLenninger
Жыл бұрын
A casual conversation with the kid should have revealed this was a kid who lived in the apt complex and not the suspect stealing cars.
@ravendarkcloud
Жыл бұрын
When I was around 12 years old I had been at a park with a friend. Our bikes were locked up with my bike chain lock, an officer (who was a good 80+lbs over weight) who had seen us tackled me and handcuffed me with out so much as a word out of him. He then screamed at me "where is the weapon?" He yelled it several times before reaching into my pockets and removing my bike lock some change and a burger king receipt. Angry that he found no actual weapon he demanded to know where I lived to which I pointed to my house that was in sight. He stuck me in his car leaving my bike on the ground, my friend walked it home for me. Once we got to my house he tried to make threats at my mother claiming "You are accountable for your child being a gang member. I know he is one just look, he is wearing a Raiders hat." My mom chewed his ass out for almost 10 min and we went to the police station right after he removed the cuffs. My face was bruised as was my back from him tackling me. He was fired on the spot and My mom filed charges against him. I can understand how the boy feels.
@jenniparker1
Жыл бұрын
A long time ago, I had outside dogs. The neighbors cut down some woods, and after that we had a problem with field rats coming into our yard eating the dogs food. So my solution was to sit outside for an hour or so every morning with a pellet rifle and a handful of bird seed scattered in a clear spot on the ground. So one morning as I'm sitting in my chair, pellet rifle across my lap, pointed away from the road that ran down the side of my property, I see a sheriff's deputy drive by. I looked at him, he looked at me, nothing happened, he kept driving. Maybe 10-15 minutes later, from behind me, I hear "Ma'am?" and as I turn to look, there were 3 deputies, guns drawn, stacked up on the corner of the church building that was 20 feet behind me. I didn't freak out or anything because I knew I wasn't doing anything wrong-but I should point out that I lived in the county, and even if it had been a "real" gun instead of a pellet gun I still would not have been doing anything illegal. So I calmly said "Yes?" and the deputy said "We got a report of someone with a gun" and I just laughed and very calmly lifted the pellet gun over my head with my hands well away from the trigger and said "Sure, if you consider this a gun." They holstered their guns and told me to "Have a nice day." But I was thinking the whole time that nobody called them and if their buddy had an issue with me sitting in my yard with a pellet gun he could have just stopped and asked me what was up.
@thinkcorrectly407
Жыл бұрын
As a young man of 16 , i would get stopped by the police while walking, no matter what i had on i seemed to match the description, it's scary being surrounded by police at that age.
@Sondan1988
Жыл бұрын
The Police can ALWAYS make a situation worse !! They are not your friend and never be around them if you don't have to be.
@FarmRanchHomestead
Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine the cop that stopped Steve and his friend (while they were riding their bikes), asking if he could search their bikes? Maybe he would even call for the K-9 unit to search for contraband... Good thing they didn't carry much with them, otherwise any pocket change they had might have been the subject of a civil asset forfeiture!
@Michael-fl1tm
Жыл бұрын
As a 56 your old Warren resident who spent the first half of his life in Detroit, back when I was 12 years old police were members of the community who would protect and serve. Now they're behaving like they're part of an occupying army. The only one who was in the wrong place at the wrong time was the cop. Because nearly every cell phone has a video camera they are getting caught and their only concern is trying to cover up the ridiculous behavior.
@colleendelaney3259
Жыл бұрын
I grew up (not too far from Birmingham) in Detroit (Livernois & 6 Mile). As a blond, 10 yo girl I was stopped by a cop as I was riding my bike home from the library. He asked me if I had a license for my bicycle. As it so happened, I had registered my bike and the license was affixed just below the back of the seat where it was supposed to be (though I had a saddle bag behind the seat that covered it). I showed the cop and he asked me why I was hiding it and if I was ashamed of it. Maybe he was trying to be funny, but I was totally baffled. Did I mention that it was raining and I was trying to get home before I got soaked. The cop was wearing a rain poncho. When I got home, I told my dad what had happened. He hunted the cop down and demanded an apology. (This was back in 1960.)
@hadassahsoddsandends
Жыл бұрын
My young (10 or 11?) Asperger's son was handcuffed to a chair at school one day. They didn't follow the IEP and use a special, friendlier method of restraint. His aide said, "I just won't do that!" I said, "Then why did you keep the job after your training in how to do it?" "I didn't think I would ever need it"! In actuality, I found out later from the child that if he hadn't frightened my son out of his wits, there would not have been a problem. So, my son's aide didn't follow directions, then he got threatening, but my frightened little boy gets put in handcuffs and expelled! Then the stupid aide gets a new student--Poor kid! Wish I had thought of suing! As it is, I took him out and home-schooled. I had to give up my job, but it was worth it to know my son was safe. An added benifit was that it took me only two days to notice that my son, "the best reader in the class", didn't know how to read at all! He had just memorized the most sight words!! Well, it didn't take him long to learn real phonics. All he needed was to be out of the fray. By the way, he is doing fine now. I definitely know how the family in your article feels. The advantage we have, though, is that we know that "God causes all things work for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to his purpose" Romans 8:28 (NASB) Homeschooling helped him to catch up in a lot of his studies and caused him to really learn to read and do math. Now he does programming and coding--outside his job--for fun!
@OurMackeyAndDottieShow
Жыл бұрын
You can look at the demeanor of a competent child and a child who is disturbed and these cops knew better.
@sthawk01
Жыл бұрын
When I was ten my best friend and me were hanging out in his backyard. His house backed up to the back of a shopping mall. There was an armed robbery and a cop looking for the suspect came around the corner of the house and pointed a shotgun at my face from point blank range. It startled me, but it wasn’t until years later I realized how badly that could have gone
@nicholasvinen
Жыл бұрын
Why do police have such poor gun safety? You don't point a gun at anyone you aren't intending to shoot! Even I know that.
@kevinspacey5325
Жыл бұрын
This is bs. Sue. When I was 14 I was riding my bike back home kind of fast because the sun was going down and it was dinnertime. A city cop pulls up to me and tells me to stop while shining his flashlight directly in my face by our community mailbox right across the street from my house. Starts asking me questions and giving me a hard time until our neighbor Jim came outside showed his sherriffs badge and told him to leave me alone and get lost. It was such a negative interaction and the reason I have more respect for sherriffs than city cops.
@gregoryfrickey1715
9 ай бұрын
YUP
@John13Edge
Жыл бұрын
When I was sixteen I work for a company digging repair hole for the local phone company…I saved up enough money to get a used 16 ft speed boat with 135 hp motor (in boxes)…we had just finished putting the motor back together (my dad was a marine mechanic).We where launching the boat for its maiden voyage…Two idiots from the thin blue gang pull up and seize the boat..they never asked any questions they just held me there till a piece paper shows up saying they can take the boat…Three weeks later I get a call you can come get your boat…I go to retrieve my boat the windshield is literally bust of the boat..Turns out that one of the cottagers had taken police boat for a tour after throwing empties at them the night before…apparently the cops couldn’t drive either because took the bottom out of their boat and had fired a few rounds at the fleeing boat….my boat had a small crack in the windshield from the time I bought the boat….My reward for asking when they where going to put my boat back together….The cop pulled his gun on me and said to leave…….This happened in Peterborough Ontario the officer that pulled the gun was Quigley in about 1983…..And yes I still hate the sit of cops
@RaveWoIf
Жыл бұрын
In an apartment building it shouldn't take more than a few minutes to throw out the trash and return. I'd imagine that after 10 minutes you'd be worried maybe a few more minutes before you'd go and search. So those cops were on that kid for at least 15 minutes. Since he was in cuffs I doubt they actually talked to him, but most likely came at him gun drawn and told him to get on the ground. Poor kid. This cop is clearly not made for this job
@azuth11
Жыл бұрын
Next Week’s Headline: Police Shoot Baby Sleeping in Crib Union Stands by Officer’s Self Defense Claim
@noahhastings6145
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! You reminded me I need to take out the trash. Hopefully I make it back unharmed.
@stewarth99
Жыл бұрын
Good luck
@Demsar_Groomurz
Жыл бұрын
The interesting thing about police body cameras, when the police need the footage to support their claims about a person's guilt, the footage is readily available. However, when the police know or should have known that they were in the wrong, the body camera footage mysteriously either was accidentally deleted, the officer didn't activate the camera or the footage, much like the officer and the employing agency, is corrupted and not available. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Interesting how that's always the case, huh?
@dougbotimer8005
Жыл бұрын
My son was detained briefly for walking, on the sidewalk, on a half mile road. My other son was in a car stopped as he and friends were leaving apartment were one of the boys lived. Neither were ever told the reason for the stop. But seems to me police have become much more inclined to stop people, especially young men, and to draw weapons and physically restrain the people the stop.
@tony_25or6to4
Жыл бұрын
Cop was not quizzing the kid, he was interrogating him.
@eddiekiii2968
Жыл бұрын
6 years old went to visit uncle Mickey (homicide detective Cook County), and all the "adults" got a big laugh when he cuffed me behind my back. I did not think it funny one bit, I was terrified and didn't understand why this was allowed to happen. Money will not "fix" the trauma this child incurred, nor would an ass-covering apology.
@mexicanspec
Жыл бұрын
It will pay for therapy.
@EXROBOWIDOW
Жыл бұрын
In my workplace, a small business, the bosses had a bullwhip, and on Friday afternoons, they'd get it out and start cracking it just for fun. Everyone got to give it a try, and whoop things up a bit, Indiana Jones style. Then one day it was time for my employee review. As usual, the bosses sat down on the other side of the big conference table from me. Only this time, they had the bullwhip coiled up on the table. They did it for a joke, I knew it was a joke, but still... I came right out and just asked them not to do that again. They respected my wishes. There's something about being in authority that makes it so you have to be more careful about your actions. Knowing what's funny and what isn't is one of those things an authority figure needs to pay attention to. Seems like it's the dads and the uncles who muff this one up a lot of times.
@aggravatedHart
Жыл бұрын
@@mexicanspectherapy doesn’t work
@mexicanspec
Жыл бұрын
We won't know if it does until he tries it.@@aggravatedHart
@Kurgosh1
Жыл бұрын
The chief wants us to take into all the facts? One fact matters - one of your officers kidnapped a child at gunpoint for no reason. That's a whole bunch of felonies. The only acceptable apology is a) a large pile of cash and b) lengthy prison sentences for the gang members involved in this kidnapping.
@GeorgeSu15
Жыл бұрын
I knew you'd cover this, it's crazy
@Marxon1134
Жыл бұрын
I guess I got a good one. I worked nights at a gas station and arrived via motorcycle (2014 Kawasaki Ninja) because I couldn't afford a car. Management actually requested I park my bike under streetlamp so the cameras and I can see it. This happened to be right up against the side of the building. One night a new officer is sent on a patrol route through the area, does the usual loop around and... Promptly drives the chevy silverado onto the bike. His response? Immediately goes into the store looking for the owner (me) and apologizes profusely, I tell him to relax and take it one step at a time. He Immediately calls his supervisor to the scene who helps write up a report and they remove the truck off the bike and gives me a referral to the department's insurance. He's standing in the lot trying to hold it together sweating so much I can see his dark forehead glisten, turns out he's very new to the job. The bike is still perfectly operable with only cosmetic damage and I was given proper insurance info promptly and politely. I pulled the supervisor and told him "Make sure you keep that one, he's a good kid and he did the right thing" A week later the bike was repaired good as new and I sent in anonymous feedback with his badge number complimenting his care and compassion in the matter.
@theeccentricgentleman9393
11 ай бұрын
I was 15 when I was held at gunpoint sitting at a bus stop after purchasing a video game. I was taken on a ride at an apartment complex where someones car was broken in where they were asked if I was the guy. Only description they had was hispanic man in grey shirt. Made it very clear where I stood and how I view police in my later years.
@marbanak
Жыл бұрын
This sounds like a Babylon Bee headline: Police Refuse To Believe Modern Teenage Suspect Was Actually Taking Out The Trash.
@1lxpg
Жыл бұрын
The cop came up to the kid WITH HIS GUN OUT! Then handcuffed him.
@sjninja
Жыл бұрын
You're also forgetting the part were it was said that the officer had his gun on him. Screw the cuffs. Looking down a barrel is scary AF.
@JadeyCatgirl99
Жыл бұрын
That's also was what I was thinking about. If the cop actually thought the kid was involved in a crime, he should have just asked him some questions. The fact that his first response was to threaten the boy's life tells you a lot about what this cop really wanted.
@michaelmaker8169
Жыл бұрын
Couple days before Christmas, years ago, I had a guy pounding on our door saying I stole a rabbit trap I found in the stream next to my house. Said I was going to jail, yelling ect. I was around 10 or 12. I started balling my eyes out and was terrified. My father had to come home from work and talk to him. It was terrifying for several years after.
@TheTechnologyFox
Жыл бұрын
Oh please! steve, steve,steve. I was 10 and stopped by a cop for riding my bike on the wrong side of the street. I stood there crying as he wrote out a ticket, and watched my mother drive by. I lived and it is not a big deal.
@1776Angry
Жыл бұрын
They need to raise the minimum scores on the IQ test these officers take to at least triple digits.
@MacCoalieCoalson
Жыл бұрын
From what I've heard, they have a *maximum* IQ score. They don't want anyone intelligent enough to disagree with their blatantly illegal orders or policies.
@MalumLupum
Жыл бұрын
😂 I was hassled as a homeschooling teen when I took out the trash one day. I say the comics in the top of the recycles from the Sunday paper, realized I hadn't read them so I sat on the ground and read them ... suddenly a cop rolls by to ask why I'm not in school and what I'm doing 😂
@rideshareog
Жыл бұрын
The boy is of Jamaican heritage and in that culture children are respectful and genuine good kids. Badge holder at his finest moment.
@clintmatthews3500
Жыл бұрын
Cops are just as much predators as criminals. He thought he had easy pickings with the kid. I bet he assumed there was no dad at all to challenge him.
@ericeandco
Жыл бұрын
Stuff happens all the time no matter the color. Police shouldn’t be allowed to ask minors anything without parents president. It should be assumed they want representation.
@c.p.browne6871
Жыл бұрын
We all know if the parents had seen this happen and objected to it when it occurred, they'd have been locked up too. Likely for 'obstructing an officer' and 'interfering in an investigation', assuming the officer didn't just shoot them and call it a day.
@V3DT
Жыл бұрын
When I was 19 I remember being stopped by a cop on my moped, the moped was plated, insured, I had the correct license, was going within the speed limit, had everything that was required, I knew everything everything was good but I was still tense as he questioned me on random things. I feel I likely had a slight tone with him even though I wasn't trying to & was trying to be respectful & likely seemed nervous. He likely thought I was hiding something but no it's just the fact of being stopped by someone that has the power to ruin your day or worse if they are in a bad mood even if you haven't done anything. It can be scary, even more so if you're younger & haven't had any interactions with the police before.
@thisbushnell2012
Жыл бұрын
He was not released until challenged by the father.
@davidhunt2452
27 күн бұрын
Being traumatized as a 12 year old by being handcuffed? That could be traumatizing for an adult!
@rgoonewardene380
Жыл бұрын
I’m in my mid 40s, and I would be traumatised, if a cop came and cuffed me, when I’m taking out the dustbin. That said, all my interactions with the police have always been very positive.
@AJ-tz6qu
Жыл бұрын
Happened to me and my son, there's no way to protect yourself from other people's beliefs. They believed we were some people that we clearly were not. They had the wrong ethnicity, hair, skin color, facial features,hight , weight and vehicle .
@EXROBOWIDOW
Жыл бұрын
Let me guess... they had the right species?
@buckeyenative1365
Жыл бұрын
Look up the definitions of arrest and detainment. That's why I say handcuffs = arrest. If the cops can't properly articulate the reason for the handcuffs, i.e. what the arrestable offense is, the cuffs most likely aren't necessary and should not be used. That poor child will never trust police again and will be seen as "suspicious" during any future interactions with cops, who will then scoff at his reason for mistrust.... and put him into cuffs "for officer safety."
@justsayen2024
Жыл бұрын
By the way that wasn't an apology that wasn't even a qualified apology. "Oh sorry you feel that way"
@johnmsteen
Жыл бұрын
I'm about the same age as Steve, and also had a couple of encounters with police as a 10- and 12-year-old kid. The cops would put the fear of God in me, but it never went beyond that, and I was always treated like the kid I was rather than an adult with a rap sheet. I had friends who did a lot worse things than I did, and none of them were ever handcuffed. Handcuffs came out only if you were being arrested. Now they're used if you even argue with a cop. A 14-year old kid I was in school with stole a bicycle. The police were called and caught him riding it a short time later. What did they do? The kid admitted taking the bike, so the police put it in the trunk of their cruiser (they were a lot bigger in 1970) took it and the kid back to the house he stole it, and he apologized. Then they took him home to get chewed out by his parents. That's it. Today, 25 cops would show up to the scene . The kid would be body slammed to the ground with a knee to his back, cuffed, taken to the police station and booked. That's how police are trained now; to assume that anyone who doesn't wear blue is the enemy. They rarely exercise discretion anymore when they should. Why should they when they can get a collar to add to their resume.
@ronharper4729
Жыл бұрын
Further research about this incident reveals police had a picture of the suspect and the kid didn't even come close to resembling the suspect. Was it racially motivated? It is what it is. What an embarrassment for the chief's written response about being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The chief is oblivious and it's not hard to see what's going on in the police department.
@fe3o2y
Жыл бұрын
A few years ago, I was in my mid 50's, I was going through a rough patch. I was feeling suicidal and I made my way to a police station. There was no one around, just a phone that said to call for help. Very strange. I picked up the phone and told who answered that I needed help, I felt suicidal. The next thing I knew, there were 4 cops, two with their weapons drawn, the other two with their hands on their guns. I am a senior woman in crisis who, in addition, had a broken wrist. The wrist wasn't set or in a cast. Hospitals didn't "do" casts anymore, I was told. My wrist to my elbow was wrapped in an ace bandage. It had just happened a couple of days before at a crisis center I had been at. They dumped me out as soon as they could. I went from being suicidal to being afraid I'd be killed by the cops surrounding me. They immediately wanted to handcuff me. I unrolled that ace bandage so fast so they could see how bruised and swollen my wrist/arm was. They took my good arm and held it behind me while they walked me to a cell and locked me in. I was terrified. I thought I was going to jail because I was suicidal! Eventually, they drove me to another crisis center. They handcuffed my good arm behind me, into one of my belt loops. I begged them to drive carefully so I didn't hurt my broken arm. This was in Florida. I think it was illegal to commit suicide at the time. I am still scared of cops to this day. That 12 year old boy has been scared for life. And, if he ever needs help, he will not contact any cops. Our country is so fucked up.
@jim7302
Жыл бұрын
You give some people power than they thank there God!! When there no better than me and you!!
@davidgraemesmith1980
Жыл бұрын
In 1992 I was 12 years old 6ft 1 inch tall 140lbs riding a bicycle carrying stuff between shops/stores and peoples homes, I saw stuff and yes was arrested by uk police on suspicion of transporting drugs lol I told the arresting officer "impossible, I don't work with the chemist, ooh can you contact detective sergeant Sharp as he's my appropriate adult" 😂 the cuffs came off on hand and the officer asked if I was being honest I told him "my grandpa Jack taught me honesty is easier than lies" Police officers make mistakes and yes I was scared, but respect goes both ways, I wasn't worried about anything happening because I'd already been through hell in elementary school.
@missflowerpower8724
5 ай бұрын
Unless a child is directly seen by police or is absolutely known to be combative, they should NEVER be handcuffed just to question them. Cop should have escorted the CHILD up to the family residence and talked with him in front of the parents.
@SF2K01
Жыл бұрын
Cops when called about squatters, vandals, etc: "Oh must be a Civil Dispute/minor offense/too confusing, can't get involved" Cops when they see a black kid taking out the trash in his own home: "ARREST THIS VICIOUS CRIMINAL"
@n.d.m.515
Жыл бұрын
He was wearing clothing similar to the suspect they were activley looking for, not just skin color.
@SF2K01
Жыл бұрын
@@n.d.m.515 I'm sure that's a great excuse they're trotting out, but as Steve mentioned in the video, was the suspect also a 12 year old black child? If they're both wearing the same gap T-shirt, is that cause for handcuffing anyone before ascertaining the facts and talking to the person?
@n.d.m.515
Жыл бұрын
@@SF2K01 the perp was known to run away. The handcuffs were to ensure the kid didn't run away assuming he was the suspect. Once they realized he wasn't the suspect they let him go.
@SF2K01
Жыл бұрын
@@n.d.m.515 So they should immediately detain and handcuff anyone wearing vaguely similar clothes, regardless of age, until it's determined they're not the person they're looking for?
@anitahaviland3036
Жыл бұрын
And was the suspect 12 years old, also?
@killer52lt
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Lansing police department now needs to take out their trash from here on out at bare minimum.
@HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks
Жыл бұрын
Dad already said he won't accept an apology and wants justice. I heard that as I'm going for a big payday, but maybe he just wants the cop fired or disciplined. I'd certainly expect repercussions for the cop just going by what I heard here.
@blargblarg5657
Жыл бұрын
The police will investigate themselves and find they did nothing wrong. The jury will award the father a ton of money for "nothing" and a gag order will be put in place.
@kaecatlady
Жыл бұрын
"I heard that as I'm going for a big payday..." You say that like it's a bad thing in a country where, unfortunately, being forced to pay out a large chunk of change seems to be the only way to get a city's attention when their employees do something stupid--and potentially deadly--like HOLDING A GUN on a 12 year-old, then cuffing, detaining and questioning him without his parents' presence. Outside his own home. The real tragedy is that the local taxpayers will be stuck with this bill (because I'm telling you now, the city/police department is going to settle out), because unlimited "qualified immunity" is still a thing, and bad cops still get protected from their incompetence and/or maliciousness by their councils and unions.
@MisterCrispyFL
Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind, there have been MANY cases where lazy/malicious police officers have bullied kids into confessing to crimes they didn't commit. Kids are far less likely to know their rights and are far easier manipulated into saying the wrong things. "Let's pretend you did actually do it. How would you have done it? Oh well you just pointed out something we didn't mention. You're obviously guilty."
@socialpublisher123
Жыл бұрын
The central park five for example.
@soujemn5
Жыл бұрын
The father getting involved is probably the only reason why the cop stopped what he was doing.
@GiveMeaFuckingBreakDude
Жыл бұрын
Steven Avery nephew. That is a prime example .
@jpnewman1688
Жыл бұрын
What?? You don't trust the 🐑 dogs that are allowed to lie?? 😂😂
@bruhice6058
Жыл бұрын
Sure but that didn’t happen here. Are the police not allowed to detail people or kids? This is so ridiculous. Cops have plenty of garbage to rag on, detaining a child for however long (less than 30min) is nothing
@jaredhaas4168
Жыл бұрын
I laughed out loud at the police wanting people to 'take all the facts into account before making a judgement.' Gee, maybe if the officer had done that, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
@Gangsta1168
Жыл бұрын
You are expecting way too much of DUMB sheep dogs.. 😂😂😂
@Kayenne54
Жыл бұрын
I would have assertively fed that line right back at them, from the get-go, in my first interview with the media.
@Royman87
Жыл бұрын
@@Gangsta1168don't you mean "pigs"? don't give dogs a bad name 😂
@EarthIsNotFlat
10 ай бұрын
That’s not how any of this works. The whole point of cuffing him is to keep everyone safe while they get all the facts.
@Gangsta1168
10 ай бұрын
@@EarthIsNotFlat really.. Why didn't you say for officers' safety?? 😄😄😄
@earhornjones
Жыл бұрын
When I was 11-years-old, I was delivered newspapers on my bicycle every day at 5am in my neighborhood. As it happened, my route included the neighborhood police station. One morning, a cop car pulled up to me as I rode away from a house where I'd just made a delivery, and hit me with the mega-bright spotlight. A cop then got out and started giving me the third degree about what I was doing. He didn't seem to believe my story, despite me having a clearly marked bag of newspapers wrapped around my handlebars. He demanded ID, which I, an 11-year-old, lacked. After a lengthy interrogation, he told me that I was in violation of the local curfew law. I, an 11-year-old, reminded him that the curfew exempted paper carriers. He disputed this, and began writing a ticket. Just then, a second cop car arrived, and another cop got out, came over to me, and demanded to know why the newspaper at the police station hadn't been delivered. I explained that it was because his colleague had decided to stop and harass me. The two copes talked amongst themselves for a bit, then decided to let me go, with an admonition that I'd better start delivering the newspaper on time. It was then, at the ripe old age of 11, that I came to a singular realization about cops. Most of them are morons, to whom god didn't give a bit of common sense.
@travisleeabq
Жыл бұрын
I assume you eventually discovered that out of ANY set of people, MOST don’t have a lick of common sense. It’s just far worse when they are armed,looking for trouble, and have no consequences when they act stupidly.
@geoh7777
Жыл бұрын
@earhornjones "... I came to a singular realization about cops. Most of them are morons ..." Most of them are near- or full-on psychopaths, which are useful to have on any and all police departments. You never know when you will need for the police to go up against a violent psychopathic criminal and they say, I'm going to go after this guy until either I kill him or he kills me. That's the kind of dedication we need. They don't want us to arm and train ourselves to do it. So, they need to do it.
@alliecollin1748
Жыл бұрын
That rolled up newspaper should've been DELIVERED the first cop.....anatomically......😡😡😡
@thomasseidel2381
Жыл бұрын
@@alliecollin1748Best inside a cactus.
@kaoskronostyche9939
Жыл бұрын
You are far too kind with the word "morons." Most cops are criminal Psychopaths, deranged Authoritarians, malicious Narcissists and drunken domestic abusers. The question is "who guards the Guardians?" This question is never asked anymore and no one can answer it. Cheers!
@JohnSmith-nn1yk
Жыл бұрын
No child should be questioned by the police without their parents present, period.
@glee21012
Жыл бұрын
Unless they are in school, you can’t stop it .
@jamesalinio5277
Жыл бұрын
End all qualified immunity for all law enforcement, district attorneys and judges
@tommyb6611
Жыл бұрын
based on new social standards you are wrong. i mean the top politicians consider 6yo to be mature enough to say what they are and to be sexually responsible. that was an adult thing in the past, just like voting or not needing an adult when cops talk to you. But society is different now. minors are adults
@soujemn5
Жыл бұрын
@@glee21012 which is one reason why you should keep your kids out of public school.
@EnthalpyAndEntropy
Жыл бұрын
@@soujemn5or just teach your kid to never talk to the police under any circumstance and that schools are fallible and see kids as a means to an end and not their priority.
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