Sorry it's been a while! Feels great to get back into the "As Digested by..." videos. All year I've been working on my (debut) album of original works for keyboard titled "Alice in Wonderland." It's out on Bandcamp: nahresol.bandcamp.com/releases
@eamonrussell6890
4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the album!👍
@swlbarely
4 жыл бұрын
Hey your the greatest piano player obviously and these vids have great value in their analysis of various genres and facilitates their constant evolution and borrowing from one another. However I don't sense the sometimes abnormal emotionality that I feel is the seedbed for the kind of creativity that it takes to create music. I sometimes want to shake you in order to turn you into someone more passionate; to make you feel all the feelings of these musicians you speak of. You don't seem emotionally unbalanced enough to be truly creative in a way that grabs others hearts. But I know I'm wrong. I don't even know you and its not my job to say what you should be. I'm just sharing some of the weird thoughts that go through my mind when I watch your videos. I feel that many who've had a classical music upbringing have a profound handicap of too much mind and not enough heart to play with complete abandon. At the opposite end of the spectrum I see the likes of Sly of the Family Stone and Jimi Hendrix, etc.
@koshersalaami
4 жыл бұрын
String Traveler Classical heart is different. I”m reasonably sure that if you heard Nahre play Brahms you wouldn’t conclude that she didn’t have heart in a million years and, by the way, if you have any sense - or heart - you’ll apologize to her for that. That’s not something you say to an artist, which Nahre certainly is, and especially not to an artist you respect, which I can tell you do. I have a reasonable amount of experience on classical piano (emphatically amateur but with some conservatory training) but I also play bar rock’n’roll and blues isn’t foreign to me either. You’re talking about abandon. With classical piano that’s hard to do because you’re doing so much at once and every note you play (the vast majority of the time) is either written or wrong. If you’re playing in a rhythm section laying down a repetitive groove or even if you have the luxury of a rhythm section behind you - which Hendrix certainly did and Sly did way more - you have some room to relax and play with it and against it because you’re not responsible for generating all of it yourself with two hands. If you decide to invert a chord, no one will usually notice. If you feel like putting in a fill, if you’re not in the studio you can often do that, and sometimes you can do it in the studio. She’s generally not playing dance music, and abandon is more likely when associated with dance because someone’s whole body is involved and musicians approach what they’re doing in that context. And that’s what’s going on here. Pop is usually dance music and Nahre isn’t yet tapping into that. That’s why so many of us told her that this sounds like soundtrack music more than pop. Watch any boy band. What are they doing? I suppose we could look at this from a blues perspective but again there’s so much freedom inherent in the form and the coolest parts come from that freedom. And so much of that freedom is not just melodic and harmonic but rhythmic, in blues a ton of it is out of time altogether.
@pablolichtig2536
4 жыл бұрын
@@NahreSol Just did! I didn't know that was possible. I discovered your channel only recently thanks to "the algorithm", and have been really loving it, especially this "as digested" series
@sopit666
4 жыл бұрын
Math rock/Post-rock, As Digested by a Classical Musician
@Pyr0blast
4 жыл бұрын
It sounded like a soundtrack more than pop. 'A foreign exchange student arrives in a small upstate New York town, she challenges the dynamics of her host family's relationships and alters their lives forever' kind of thing.
@NahreSol
4 жыл бұрын
Hahaa this is amazing
@KreatorX1029
4 жыл бұрын
Yes I felt that too. Somehow I was reminded of Ramin Djawadi's compositions for the tv show Westworld. I'm no expert but from what I've listened so far with pop and OST music, It feels as though - if the piece was less lyrical, it would sound more like pop.
@noracola5285
4 жыл бұрын
It could easily sound more pop tho, with the addition of synthetic beats and an impassioned vocal, singing silly lyrics. and of course, a strong bass line.
@edylan7176
4 жыл бұрын
@@KreatorX1029 and @nahre Sol it actually sounds more like Thomas Newman, especially because of the Dorian and the 5ths pattern in the bass at the chorus. Nice!
@Floobie2956
4 жыл бұрын
@@edylan7176 The ending was very Newman-esque
@Mgbmax15
4 жыл бұрын
The trick to pop music is simplicity without being boring. Make it too complex and it loses its mass appeal so you have to find this middle ground where it’s interesting and captivating all the while so simple a child could learn it. Its learning how to use repetition strategically.
@apeckx5090
4 жыл бұрын
This might sound silly, but this video kind of reminds me of how SpongeBob draws a circle by first drawing an amazing face and then erased everything until it was just a simple circle left
@abosalti4642
4 жыл бұрын
Description on point
@orti1283
4 жыл бұрын
truee
@samermohamed7644
4 жыл бұрын
That's such an accurate analogy, lol
@flipperdip4009
3 жыл бұрын
Yessss hahaha
@diegozimermann6114
3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAAHA perfect.
@SoundFieldPBS
4 жыл бұрын
I really thought your original piece could be the theme for a pixar film! movie scores here we come!
@Bati_
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@SchoolofRockNRoll
4 жыл бұрын
i was thinking anime. this could be used in like fma
@TheMOReviewers
4 жыл бұрын
It's funny you say that, I was thinking sort of Joe Hisashi, the main composer for Studio Ghibli, so similar territory! Lovely piece anyway.
@ruthsalgado6775
4 жыл бұрын
100th leik
@ShoH
4 жыл бұрын
Your graphics are always so on point... plus piano skill plus talking plus...
@NahreSol
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! 🙃🙏
@onthecover5042
4 жыл бұрын
Nyes
@Koladejesugbemi
4 жыл бұрын
She really is the full package 🥰
@davidsong8652
4 жыл бұрын
The comment is on point
@dulla8469
4 жыл бұрын
Plus she pwetty..
@koshersalaami
4 жыл бұрын
This sounds like movie music more than pop. I can imagine it behind a movie scene very easily but I can’t imagine it being sung. If the melody exists, I doubt it exists with these changes so I wouldn’t worry about it.
@NahreSol
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@joemcalister7105
3 жыл бұрын
@@cabal4171 Yeah I think that's it. Something with how the accompaniment to the melody is almost a part of the melody makes it sound more like a soundtrack whereas a pop song would separate those. I prefer the integrated melody into the accompaniment and it gives me some sort of sense of being more neat and intelligent but yeah, not as pop-y
@dliessmgg
4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts on this: In pop songs it's often the case that the lyrics of the verse describe a specific situation, and the chorus describes the broad-strokes emotion of that moment that can be shared by many others. This is reflected in the music in that the verses are often more muted, and then for the chorus the music blooms and spreads. In your piece, the verse melody has already some rather dramatic intervals. Purely stylistically I'd expect to see this more often in a ballad by a diva style singer, like Celine Dion or similar. Your chorus however is rather restricted in its movement. To be completely honest, to me it felt more like a pre-chorus that was using the static melody to build tension towards an exploding chorus. But good work! I'd love to hear more if you try to explore further in that direction.
@Lankymax1
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, sophisticated diva ballad was exactly what popped into my mind too.
@FrictionFive
4 жыл бұрын
Word. I was hearing the chorus as a pre-chorus too! I was like waiting for Godot, cuz the chorus never arrived! 😂😂😂
@ambiention
4 жыл бұрын
Came here to comment exactly the same thing about the chorus/pre-chorus, sounds like it's building tension rather than releasing it. I guess with dynamics and instrumentation you could make a version of the verse into a chorus though.
@plinyelder8156
4 жыл бұрын
Make a video yourself. Show us how it’s done.
@BradsGonnaPlay
4 жыл бұрын
Pliny Elder dude, he’s not disparaging her video by giving critique. i don’t like when people are dicks about compositions either but she even asks for criticisms in the video and this person gave it in a concise, well worded, and genuine way unlike your passive aggressive comment.
@Ermude10
4 жыл бұрын
Loved this! As many pointed out it sounds more like a soundtrack than pop, and the biggest reason for that (in my opinion) is that the melody wasn't written as a song. I know it's very singable, because it's a very distinct and simple melody, but it doesn't feel like it was made with lyrics and sentences in mind, at least in english. I can imagine some kind of Japanese anime song with this melody though. Either way, really liked how you try to understand and analyse, and finally use the learnings to create something of your own! I learnt a bunch of stuff myself from just watching!
@mr7clay
4 жыл бұрын
Much agreed, it's more of a melodic hook that would go between the vocal parts or near the end of the verse over a sustained vocal note. I think singing at least a simple sentence or gibberish helps dial in the right tempo and how busy to let the arrangement get.
@somethinglikethisorthat273
4 жыл бұрын
I guess what this demonstrates is that pop music is often “simpler” in theory to make way for the emotional narrative in the lyrics, but “simpler” in theory doesn’t mean less thought through or less well crafted to it’s purpose! Thank you Nahre this is an amazing video 👍
@Gabriel-mw5ro
4 жыл бұрын
yeah, it's a shift away from harmony and towards production
@jonnymario771
4 жыл бұрын
@@JA-xx7vw I dont agree, that shouldnt really apply to music since its abstract, and not objective as spoken languages.
@JamesHunterRoss
4 жыл бұрын
One of your comments on the second "intro cousin" was "consistent and predictable"; that is huge in pop music. (Not that pop music cannot have a surprise here and there, and sometimes that "surprise" is what sets the tune apart making it into a hit.) To me, the "fancier" your variations get, the more "move soundtrack" they sound to me. Amazing playing as always. and a very fun video! With vocals and good lyrics, your piece could be a pop hit, I think. I hear... "It could have happened last night... and where would we be this day..." then "It should have happened last night, I should have asked you to stay..." then "when would we, when could we, maybe then there would be... there would be love... then we would be in love." Or, blah blah blah... but lyrics, perhaps not mine, can pick the whole thing up into some other realm which amplifies that musical idea. Fun video!
@worstelldaniel
4 жыл бұрын
I think that's the most important facet. That, and "immediate appeal." It can have layers that reveal themselves on further listens, but really, I can't think of a pop song that wasn't written with the purpose of being enjoyable (not necessarily fun, I don't think) on a first listen or two.
@SoundFieldPBS
4 жыл бұрын
when you spread your hands apart it sounds like the piano players at nordstrom that cover john legend songs
@dimitreze
4 жыл бұрын
best example of pop is Elton John's original 1968 Skyline Pigeon version versus the 1972 version same song, same singer, totally different arrangements first one is not pop at all, very weird and experimental second song is a much traditional pop piano ballad and no surprise, is the version that everybody knows
@shitmultiverse1404
4 жыл бұрын
Elton John's music weird and experimental? You must not have listened to any experimental song at all
@JivanPal
4 жыл бұрын
The '72 version (a.k.a. "piano version") is definitely a pop ballad; simple drums in 4/4, no complex fills, left-hand piano just follows a chord progression with some ornamentation in right-hand. The '68 version is baroque harpsichord, no obvious chord progression to the layman. Frankly unappealing to most because of the harpsichord alone. Definitely not "experimental" though.
@dimitreze
4 жыл бұрын
you all must think that experimental music must sound weird 🙄
@JP-ro5wc
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine gatekeeping experimental music 😔
@JivanPal
4 жыл бұрын
@@dimitreze, "Experimental music is a general label for any music that pushes existing boundaries and genre definitions." Established baroque composition isn't experimental in any sense of the word. Experimental music is almost weird by definition.
@flyinghare14
4 жыл бұрын
The composition you came up with gives me such movie soundtrack vibes! Say in the Avengers, or the Harry Potter movies, there's a main theme song that gets reworked and shifted to help tell the story. And tbh I feel like a lot of pop songs aren't resolved so fading out works lol
@jankafka7330
4 жыл бұрын
"And tbh I feel like a lot of pop songs aren't resolved so fading out works lol" If I recall correctly, Brian Eno thought of fade outs as one more hook...Always leave them wanting more, I guess.
@jasonlieberman4606
4 жыл бұрын
This series alone and the fact that as a musician you actually put in this amount of time and energy to do something this awesome is pretty epic even if it was all you did, but the fact that it's just one small part of how much you've got going for you pretty amazing Thanks for you, Nahre.😎
@SpenserPrichard
4 жыл бұрын
The payoff of that A Major chord at the beginning of the bridge genuinely gave me goosebumps. I could listen to your composition forever!
@davec1
4 жыл бұрын
that was very effective for me, too!
@devonrobertson8533
4 жыл бұрын
I lloooovvveee your show so much! Doesn't matter how long you take to make the episodes, your mind is pure gold!
@TheNewKid59498
4 жыл бұрын
You know, I had a really interesting idea when I was listening: I think pacing might be really important when making pop music. My experience listening the "verse," and "chorus" kind of merged into the same sort of bigger phrase in my brain, and the first real noticeable contrast came from the bridge section. I guess I learned that I expect the different sections between pop songs to be longer and similarly repetitive throughout--compressing the form the way you have made it feel less "poppy" to me. Also, i think that maybe that a big part of modern pop music is the "rise" and the "drop" that you will find before a chorus section. But still the effectiveness of that gesture is really affected by its length. Don't get me wrong though, I absolutely love the ideas you're exploring! And seeing what that process means to you taught me something about how I experience music! And I just wanted to share that with you :D
@OdaKa
4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting observation, but it's possible to make something sound poppy while still being compressed in form if you're just coming from a pop foundation to begin with. I feel like this composition's starting point simply wasn't really in the pop genre, from the very first few notes of the melody. It's a really cool composition though, even if it doesn't sound pop to me.
@mikegleim5241
4 жыл бұрын
IMO, Nahre, you've begun to discover those timeless, haunting chords, in just the right register, that so many classical and popular composers have unearthed. They find the listener in an emotionally vulnerable way and move them from point A to point B musically. Isn't that what we live for in music, even with a simple 4 chords, to be transported? Your explorations are awesome. ♥️
@HaruEb
4 жыл бұрын
It would be amazing to see if Andrew Huang could attempt to reverse-engineer the "original" pop song that this would be a "piano cover" of...
@omie24
4 жыл бұрын
The chorus section somewhat reminds me of Indian cinema music, which is the 'POP'ular music here, especially Tamil language (since it's my language:) ) Here all the movies have 4 or 5 four minute songs... The format is like, Intro - Chorus -Interlude music 1 - verse - Chorus - Interlude 2 - verse -Chorus - end In the interlude we have just instruments, so every song has vocals and instrumentals But we do have symphonic elements too in the songs... For example , songs in Marathi movie Sairat all have symphonic orchestra playing Indian style music
@gonkillua14
3 жыл бұрын
I love how your face lit up when Andrew mentioned The Backstreet Boys
@megamorpher1
4 жыл бұрын
funny how hard it seems to be to get a grasp on the poppy feel
@thetalantonx
4 жыл бұрын
This definitely felt like a leitmotif in a movie score that builds into a character's main theme. I had images of the main character here crossing a sea under gray skies to arrive at her destination, her expected sanctuary, to find it in rubble. The place we'd been seeing her remembering as a solace during challenging times of her journey, in dreams calming fitful sleep, now a ruined husk of the place she once knew. It was now not the end of her trek - it was the beginning.
@lucas-co2nc
4 жыл бұрын
pleaseee do "Bossa Nova, as digested by a classical musician"
@denise2169
Жыл бұрын
I love how you try so many different styles! Brilliant! Thanks, Nahre!
@blumenmusic
4 жыл бұрын
Looking at the chord progressions that get lumped into "pop progressions rarely found in classical", I think it's interesting how some Scandinavian classical music seems to have 'pop' quality to it due to the chord progressions that may be found more in western pop than classical. Composers like Alfven, Gjeilo, or heck even Grieg sometimes, have these qualities which can make it accessible to students (every youth choir I've played for has loved Gjeilo 😉) even though it's part of the "Classical Tradition"™️ of Norway or Sweden or wherever. And yes of course I have the recent Neely video on the brain 😂
@aadarshbalireddy2939
4 жыл бұрын
For real, when I was playing Greg's 1st String Quartet, I was surprised by how 'Pop-y' the chords felt in the first movement (during the allegro section)
@OdaKa
4 жыл бұрын
Always interesting to hear of classical music not from the German, Italian, and French tradition that gets most of the attention
@AngelsEgg9
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe thats why so much so much of the good pop music is made by swedish producers and in sweden
@randfur
4 жыл бұрын
I really like the dual commentary of your spoken word and the overlayed text.
@shaz2027
4 жыл бұрын
watched the ads because I love your content, editing and the clear effort you put into it. i always learn something every time.
@ikemyung8623
4 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch one of your video I am blown away. I always ask myself, "How does she figure all this stuff out and always create such interesting music? Where does she get the drive and motivation to do this stuff?" I'm just totally amazed by you and your abilities!
@Packbat
4 жыл бұрын
That was a cool little piece! At the start, it felt very much more classical than pop - I think the melody didn't feel distinct within the arrangement? - but somewhere in the second verse or second chorus, I think the melodies begin to stand out more and the structure became clear. By the end, it felt a little ... I don't know, Suzanne Vega-ish? It felt like complicated pop - like someone bringing classical or jazz technique into pop. The fadeout was great. I thought that worked extremely well.
@yegorberdyugin3738
4 жыл бұрын
I love how you improvised the songs to express complex dynamic relationship between different styles music. I really like what you played to “song-ify” a song between pop and classical music.
@robinfilms9978
4 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest thing separating this from pop is that there was a lot of audible dissonance, both in the third chord and the contrast between the chords and the melody. This gave it sort of a brooding contemplative feel, which, while cool, doesn't quite fit the profile for pop music. You did an awesome job keeping the structure simple and predictable, but I think the next level of the concept is to extend that simplicity to your choice of notes and harmonies.
@msragiboniatelite3086
4 жыл бұрын
I was listening a podcast about the same topic and the guy exposed that the difference between classical and pop music wasn't about length, rhythm, instruments or complexity of the pieces. Both can have differences in one or the other thing. What makes the very difference is that in classic music the aim is to play the piece exactly as was written respecting notes and even interpretation, been Conservative while in pop music it's possible to change many things and do variations of the theme but for people if it's present the general idea it will be the same song. 🤯 Brilliant as always Nahre!! 👏👏
@Lankymax1
4 жыл бұрын
Suddenly, researching "micro-slaps" becomes more important than work.
@teistix
4 жыл бұрын
Loved the use of the supertonic in the chorus! Almost feels like an homage to a recent Andrew Huang video.
@DumblyDorr
4 жыл бұрын
Andrew touched upon something I think is pretty special about Pop - it's not really "one" genre. Yes, it's fun, catchy, accessible - but sometimes also sad (and sometimes very kitschy) - but in terms of what the musical elements are, pop is always changing, adopting, merging and "de-clawing" more underground music, or music that has been a successful niche for a while. In the 30s and 40s blues and jazz had popularity as well as showtunes and folk - so there was popular music with digestible, recognizable versions of each. Then in the 50s rock came along - and became the pop of the late 50s and 60s. In the underground during that time, people were experimenting with electronic music - rock became more experimental, and the late 60s birthed krautrock and prog, which took elements from rock, jazz, classical Music and more. The 60s also saw the creation of funk, which already incorporated jazz, blues and soul. A mixture of all of that became Disco - 70s pop. Also during that time, rock was pushed to new moods and timbres of both "heaviness" on the one side and over-the-top showmanship and kitsch - leading to metal and glam-rock of the 80s, and the rock-ballad reigned supreme among directions in pop. 90s brought both grunge and techno into the mainstream and into pop. the 2000s, more electronic subgenres found their way into pop. So all this time, there are different and accumulating streams of influences into pop, waxing and waning, getting pushed by newer stuff and then brought back later....It's really fascinating. Also - don't forget the people who were great musicians before they went into pop - and arguably made some of the best pop ever: * Peter Gabriel - Former frontman of Genesis during their long prog-rock era. Incorporated world-music elements and proggy elements with excellent production and musical understanding * Genesis and Phil Collins themselves - first made some of the best prog, then went pop themselves made some of the most memorable pop songs of the last four decades * Marillion - same story as Genesis - great prog, great pop aaaand: * Sonny Moore, a.k.a. Skrillex - was already a pretty good guitarist for a post-hardcore band before he went on to make electronic music that heavily influenced (and partially became) pop
@Aquatarkus96
4 жыл бұрын
+1 for Genesis. Wish Nahre would give them a bit of attention. Tony Banks is an incredible composer and pianist. There's dozens of great piano centric tracks in their catalogue, both poppy and very not poppy in the slightest lol.
@lRoixl
4 жыл бұрын
This serie of videos is so interesting ! Made-up Intro #2 is beautiful !
@gyanlobaba231
6 ай бұрын
This playlist is by far the most amazing thing
@KirbysAdventureMusic
4 жыл бұрын
"Mama" by Genesis was a hit single yet feels almost entirely antithetical to what someone would consider 'pop' music, though it does retain elements of accessibility/immediacy. You should check it out, it's basically Son of "In The Air Tonight"
@Aquatarkus96
4 жыл бұрын
That's not really fair though lol. Tony Banks is a classically trained pianist masquerading as a pop/rock keyboardist. Firth of Fifth anybody? Also check out Duchess from Duke. Daddy of In the air tonight :) Also Heathaze or Please Don't Ask or Turn it on Again off the same album. Great piano tunes, but you could say that about 99% of Genesis discography.
@KirbysAdventureMusic
4 жыл бұрын
@@Aquatarkus96 Fair points! Tony is definitely a huge part of the Genesis "sound". The Firth of Fifth 'family' of songs are all great as well: Mad Man Moon, One For The Vine, Burning Rope...
@luancarlosop
4 жыл бұрын
Nahre is slowly becoming a popular music musician
@psychosieck4718
4 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is really cool! As others have said, it doesn't sound like pop so much as it does movie music. I immediately thought it sounded like music from a videogame. It's simple enough that it's enjoyable to listen to immediately, but complicated enough that it really doesn't need anyone to sing over it. The fact that it can invoke these images in people, where they can draw out extremely specific situations for the music to be paired with speaks for itself. For me, there's a section of Undertale where "Waterfall" by Toby Fox plays (one of my favorite songs by him), and your song would fit really well there. Anyways fantastic video!
@aShadowInBlue
4 жыл бұрын
This may not be worth much, coming from a stranger on the web, but I felt compelled to share my thoughts. Pop music does not have a specific, well-followed, formula in terms of style or music theory. In essence, I believe it emerged as a result of a handful of businesses (record labels) looking for a class of music that was highly marketable to the public. This hypothesis would explain why pop music has diversified so much over the years. Andrew Huang mentions some strong points that I agree with. Pop music, in my humble opinion, has always been simplistic; easily replicable and played by a young population, perhaps with very little musical training. I conjecture that the low difficulty contributes to the spread of this type of music amongst young adults because it is easy to share with friends. Perhaps if you approached the task with the goal of writing an enjoyable piece of music for an average high-school band, you would meet with some success. This also lends credence to the argument that pop music is vocal-centric. Most persons, regardless of social or financial status, have a voice to speak or sing with. Singing is free and, if you write lyrics that resound with common fundamental human experiences, you may just find that more people will want to sing those lyrics. Romance and matters of love and sex will always be popular. I enjoy the content that you output. I would be very interested in seeing this topic revisited if you approached from the perspective of a music industry professional whom was pressured to write a song for a band of 4 or 5 low-skilled teenagers. If you had a month to write and arrange a piece of pop music for your unimpressive teen band that could be played at a stadium in front of a massive audience what would it sound like?
@thomashoffman5217
2 жыл бұрын
I'd watch this show.
@tommymandel
4 жыл бұрын
2:30 I'm glad you pointed that out in the caption, because I was just about to. The Tristan Chord!
@joaopedrolessa2242
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, do you know what’s the name of the piece at this part?
@manueldossinger
4 жыл бұрын
Your last thought means that it is a great pop part. It is immediately so familiar and you think you heard the piece already in the radio. When you said this I also "remembered" a voice singing that melody...
@celsogoncalves7348
4 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel, it's amazing! As a beginner self taught composer I'm excited to watch all your videos.
@marachime
4 жыл бұрын
ugh. it makes me SO HAPPY that you and Andrew know one another. that's so cool :3 you're both so nice and so hard working
@BlindEyeJones
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Two things: 1) you don't mention how the lyrics affect the music or the interplay between lyrics and melody. A lot of time that is where the excitement is the product of those two elements working together. 2) Your piece wants to take the melody higher, and you do that in part, (unconsciously maybe a crossover frill with your left hand) but think of it as you are creating the expectation and giving them what they are now expecting. You are setting the stage to go higher, so then give it to them, and they will love you. LOVE is key in pop. You are climbing the ladder of love and taking the audience with you. You are the Piper of Hamlin, so to speak. But your fade-out ending almost suggests that you couldn't take them higher. You fell back into sorrow or maybe a tenderness towards things lost. This is legit too... so you decide. Also, if you wanted to go high think of a key change of a whole tone up to give it that final push on the way out. Again, a very nice piece. But I sense a sorrow about you, and maybe that explains the route you took. Good luck.
@everythingasystem
4 жыл бұрын
The end result here is criminally underrated. I immediately felt that the intersection between sophistication and accessibility had been achieved when I heard the small pivots in your melody and harmony. I was bobbing my head and anticipating the flourishes. Repetition legitimizes as they say, but it seems to be the pieces that repeat sophistication to legitimize it that have that “it” thing we’re all looking for. Bonus points if you then breakout the constituent parts into unexpected orchestration, like synth pads, lower register strings, etc?
@carameii
4 жыл бұрын
Movie Soundtrack music (drama) digested by a Classical Musician would be sick!
@flpsnk4848
4 жыл бұрын
Playing with silence is also something used a lot in pop. Great stuff, learned something.
@Gryffindor8
4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful as always! To me it actually sounds closer to musical theatre, like the writing style of Spring Awakening or Dear Evan Hansen. Speaking of which Broadway/musical theatre would be a good genre to cover next!
@patrickfitzgerald2861
4 жыл бұрын
For some reason this video immediately made me think of "Classical Gas" by Mason Williams. It won three Grammy Awards in 1969: Best Instrumental Composition, Best Contemporary-Pop Performance/Instrumental, and Best Instrumental Arrangement.
@gerardo4104
4 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of my goals in life is to become in a humble person as you are, Nahre. We need more people like you!!!!
@josueissa
4 жыл бұрын
in music college this series should be a MUST, really awesome :)
@o.g.4650
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting in so much work into the videos. It really feels like you care for the audience and that fills the audience with gratitude!
@jadejaguar69
4 жыл бұрын
Omg I'm so glad you decided to make the verse-chord as a variation of Happy Birthday, because that's what kept the whole "As Digested By" interestingly for me. It really ties the whole series together. Thank you
@jadejaguar69
4 жыл бұрын
Rewatching the video, I'm surprised you didn't catch on at 15:16! I hope you can hear what I hear too, Nahre! If not, try singing happy birthday to it ;) The verse goes the first and second "Happy Birthday to You" And the chorus bit is the part after "Happy birthday dear..." Descending minor second, but you inverted it and made ascending and coming back
@bricolagefantasy7291
4 жыл бұрын
Immediate appeal is very important. Not catching after 3 second in the ear of reviewer...equals to death. Pop music is pure business. Gotta sell baby. It's that simple
@NahreSol
4 жыл бұрын
😁
@diasporachick
6 ай бұрын
Wow this was a really interesting excercise to watch you go through. I learned how to listen for the character in music (texture, voicing, etc.) This is a great page!
@ranglovesmusic
4 жыл бұрын
Nahre I love you!!! This video is just so much fun. Whenever you have time come say hi to us we will be always happy to see you!
@stevieboy444
4 жыл бұрын
It's so beneficial for those of us at the less sophisticated end of the musical spectrum to get these insights. Slowly, gently & with no pressure we absorb it & improve a little. Thank you.
@sandscribbler
4 жыл бұрын
I found the conversation with Andrew Huang and the discussion around what defines pop music to be especially fascinating. Music, like many other things in life, is a series of gradients. The various genres are helpful in that they simplify things for us a bit. But there are no precise and absolute boundaries. I appreciate how the Pop Meter (~9:00) reflects this. Is this pop music? Answer: "not at all," "potentially," "likely," and "very."
@fabiozangoli5107
4 жыл бұрын
I like your composition. Sounds more like an accomplished contemporary classical piece for large audiences than a pop song. It is funny how you have to force yourself to repetition to chase pop sound, whereas I tame my instinct to repetition in my pop-ish composition to make them sound more interesting! At any rate, hope your research will find the holy grail of the perfect melody for all of us! Take care and thank you for this wonderful video!
@Lockon52
4 жыл бұрын
The one thing that went in my head when I head your piece was "French"
@zacklim4684
4 жыл бұрын
Nahre, I think the piece is wonderful. Your attention to emotional and structural integrity in your genre study videos is something I massively appreciate! If you ever reopen this project again, I would suggest keeping things harmonically simple. Most pop music is based on triads, with few extensions or sus chords that are tastefully placed when used. Also, pop melodies usually have even phrase lengths... largely in chunks of 4 bar phrases. In this video, where you started the chorus is where most people would expect either verse 2 or a pre-chorus. Andrew just released a great video on pop melodies, I would check it out if you haven't seen it already!
@tomiiv_v
4 жыл бұрын
Such a nice balance to be achieved sounds like a poppy instrumental track for a rainy afternoon
@stefamart7
4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry nahre if your "poppish" song could sound like another song, because actually you know... Pop is a so freaking repetitive and simple genre that nearly everything sounds similar, lmao. Ps: Great video as always, you deserve more subscribers!
@NahreSol
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@Lianpe98
4 жыл бұрын
It is apparently repetitive, but in actuality it takes care of many other details that are overlooked in other types of music.
@stefamart7
4 жыл бұрын
@@Lianpe98 well, actually no. It only simplifies everything. (that's why even 14 years old kids can produce some Pop (or even Trap Music, that it's another super simple and dumb genre))
@Lianpe98
4 жыл бұрын
@@stefamart7 I haven't seen the first 14 year old doing that, but if it's age what makes simplicity then Beethoven's piano concertos most be easy, because there are 7 year old playing them... Yea, no. Pop isn't simple for the sake of being simple and it isn't always simple, in fact there are many pop songs that are rather complex. But yes, pop often uses simple tools, but good pop songs fully exploit those tools. Try yourself transcribing some songs in full detail (all ryhtms, all instruments, all the arrangement, all the articulations, etc) and then try making a pop song that actually sounds good, you'll notice it isn't that simple. By the way, trap and hip hop are not pop.
@slimshadyfoeva333
4 жыл бұрын
This seems like one of those videos that will have 2 million+ views and gets recommended every four years
@titaniumwhite6626
4 жыл бұрын
I now want a video of Nahre playing pop songs but in a classical way
@LaniakeaLeathercrafts
4 жыл бұрын
I loved seeing your thought process through all of the different experiments! The final song turned out great too. Would be awesome to a collab or you and Andrew turning it into a full fledged radio classic ;)
@MrAyla
4 жыл бұрын
As a folk/pop songwriter I always take it as an encouragement in my writing process if I have to question if this song has already been written, it means I'm on to something resonant. If you need to change something to make it your own, it's still valid. Or give credit. It's kind of the same thing as sampling.
@DyingWizardOdo
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video Nahre Sol! I just started composing my own music on the piano ("mixing" and "production" is still a huge challenge). With this video you explained why one of my "songs" (it's still in pre-alpha phase) is very much like a "pop-song" compared to the other songs. I somehow "knew" it but couldn't explain it. :D
@NahreSol
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!!
@spoggy912
4 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel today and I’m officially hooked! Love the content !❣️
@Proghead88
4 жыл бұрын
Haha you turned the first intro into 5/8 🤣❤ I loved the video, I just thought that was funny (and very cool) :)
@andris3210
4 жыл бұрын
I love the pop meter effects! :D
@manny75586
2 жыл бұрын
My composition professor used to assign us pieces in genres that we were uncomfortable with. I was probably the least pop oriented student. So he naturally assigned me to write a pop piece. Having ever studied classical I asked him to point me in the right direction. He gave me the names of several piano oriented pop songs. Knowing I was a massive fan of Schubert he told me to listen/play through his song cycles. It made a lot more sense. Those songs were basically just 19th century pop music. Listen to Das Wandern and tell me that isn't a pop song. You'll sing it the rest of the day haha.
@panoskontosthenos5498
4 жыл бұрын
Hello Nahresol! I found your channel recently and i can say that i like your content and your view of music in general. As for the pop genre,i think that repeated chords are the way to go,although your song reminded me a lot of Ludovico Einaudi's music. Keep it up!!
@ianmock2
3 жыл бұрын
Echoing some of the others, I think you would be a fantastic movie sound track composer. You already have that ambiance quality to your compositions. I could literally feel a story brewing from what I was hearing in your final track. Keep up the awesome work!
@micdevilla
4 жыл бұрын
In my experience, here are the elements of pop music: alternating verse and chorus section (optional bridge in place of verse); relatively slow melodies and chords (unlike flight of the bumblebee); syncopation (off beat non first note); repetition in melodies and chord progression (across 4 or 8 bars) ; simple time signature (4/4 or 6/8); increasing dynamics (soft verse, louder chorus); tonality (Major or minor key only); and key changes (increasing pitch). Please take this with a grain of salt. I hope this helps! Thank you.
@dalairem
4 жыл бұрын
Lovely - and a great examination, as always. Maybe not standard "pop," per se, but I could hear something developing in it. When I think of pop music and its appeal and accessibility, I think of the "Jazz" documentary by Ken Burns - the "The True Welcome" episode (yes, I had to go find it to remember) - and one of the commentator's enthusiasm about a 60+ year-old feeling as Benny Goodman's King Porter's Stomp plays in the background: "...Fletcher [Henderson] started writing arrangements [for Goodman] of popular tunes of the day, that we all knew, that we whistled, that we sang - in the shower, generally - and had a lot of fun with. So then, this was *our language.* It was not an esoteric language being played by six guys in a cellar somewhere. This was popular music."
@RTKdarling
4 жыл бұрын
That final really sounded like a piece of a film score to me; very evocative.
@nataliapalacio2517
4 жыл бұрын
I´m really happy to find you, Nahre. You make so easy to explain the music, the structure, the genders, and everything sounds so beautiful... Thank you, I meant it
@julieanderson100
Жыл бұрын
As lovely as it is, I have a hard time imagining lyrics to this song - which to me is a key element of pop. I also think there is often a drive or groove in pop - well, except if it's more of a ballad. I had to smile at the choice of Lewis Capaldi's Someone to Love. My students just performed it at a spring concert. As simple as it is, I find myself loving it. I think pop is about being the soundtrack of our lives.
@Brian-sh5ne
4 жыл бұрын
I loved it! Pop songs can also have some more structural complexity by adding pre-choruses (a shorter section building up to the chorus) and pre-verses (which are usually just variations on the intro), but these aren’t necessary if the verse easily leads to the chorus like in yours. Your piece could easily be arranged into a solid pop song and is lovely on its own. Great work!
@kampfkeks6619
4 жыл бұрын
This is one of my happy place channels. Great to see it I can learn a lot from you as a bassist and diverse viewpoints keep everything fresh. Plus I love your style
@MegaTenser
4 жыл бұрын
Cool piece as always. To me it is Minimalism. In pop songs, "the melody" is usually organized into musical sentences that combine similar ideas with contrasting ideas. You have motives that could be in a pop melody, and they contrast with each other, but they are organized as repetitive, never-ending ideas.
@gioasencio4946
4 жыл бұрын
I'm in love .... also, a Andrew Huang cameo!
@SynthApprentice
4 жыл бұрын
I do have some thoughts on how this could be more "pop", but honestly, I feel weird offering criticism, because even when you miss the mark on a genre, you still give a stellar piece of work.
@guyb7005
4 жыл бұрын
I shouldn't be surprised by your ability to play pop tunes not in your typical repertoire without the score- but still am. Appreciate your deep sense of perception without being too formulaic in your analysis. At certain levels there is something beautifully accessible in some pop music (read instrumentation) and I wonder if that's where George Winston and Ludovico Einaudi are aiming towards. Your pop piece made it look possible to apply a simple formula, but you also made it somewhat unique with play of touch and volume. (I'm from the school of repeating a mistake to make it sound intentional).
@edcollante
4 жыл бұрын
13:23 - 15:10 Sounds like Ludovico Einaudi. I dig it.
@TheScrewyouth
4 жыл бұрын
I would love that soundtrack in a videogame. So chill and nostalgic.
@karayuschij
Жыл бұрын
I could not define you as a "classical" musician. While it is obvious that you have an extremely strong "classical" musical foundation, you also have a complete understanding of all genres of music. And that's very rare among "classical" musicians. (it's more common among jazz musicians). You are great!! A question: how can you find the time to do all that?
@owenwhite4466
4 жыл бұрын
13:47 after hearing this part all I can think of is Mozart’s symphony no 40
@ALoonwolf
Жыл бұрын
A fascinating type of music is "chillwave", also called things like "shoegaze" and "glo-fi". It can be euphoric to listen to and can produce some extremely wonderful sensations other types of music don't even come close to. A composer called 'Stumbleine' is a decent example of what it is like.
@boreasboreas1
3 жыл бұрын
I learn a lot from this video. Thank you, Nahre Sol!
@latinconcept
4 жыл бұрын
I can see that your music skills bring the whole concept up to a better place with implicit embellishment in which pop music couldn't go that far. Even though Pop music is Catchy, I do love how you make music. I LOVE what you do!!! Keep it up!!
@GreeceKelly
4 жыл бұрын
That was so good! I loved how the bridge sounds. One note(!) I have is to think about what the vocals would do. I think that's what would complete the whole piece and it would give a pure pop sound to it. Now, it feels like an (amazing) instrumental version of the song. Maybe add a bit more melody with a bit of syncopation in the right hand mimicking the human voice. I can hear in my head how it could go!
@Amatteus
3 жыл бұрын
Andrew´s description of Pop is amazing.. So good... And your analysis, as all you do, mind blowing... REspect.
@Pandametal_
4 жыл бұрын
loved it ! I don't think it sounded exactly like a pop song, but definitely had a bit of that "spirit"
@aligh18
4 жыл бұрын
I think Ludovico Einaudi needs to watch this. It would be amazing if you could interview him and maybe hear some of his thoughts on this 'classical pop' vibe that you explored. Thank you for sharing this!
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