There isn’t actually a decision to make here…….one is a garish looking, heavy as hell car that has zero finesse compared to the benchmark GT3
@zzhughesd
Жыл бұрын
Yeh. Shocking. Shocked. Should I be. Not really. Did expect BM be closer. It got mullered
@mred1341
Жыл бұрын
@@henzo7087 You’ll know one day if you ever own one, I understand it might be out of your league and that’s why you settle for a bmw, trust me I know
@I999-g2s
Жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought 911’s look too ordinary, but that GT3 just looks epic.
@WoTjolly
Жыл бұрын
They're meant to look ordinary and they're perfect as they are
@ronin120
Жыл бұрын
@@WoTjolly agreed! 75 years of perfecting that timeless look.
@gerardmcmillan8591
Жыл бұрын
And it is absolutely beautiful!
@ludda42
Жыл бұрын
The GT3 with a manual might be the best car on sale
@I999-g2s
Жыл бұрын
@@MT-kx2uc same car, sans wing…
@davidbillberg2203
Жыл бұрын
33 seconds ago let's goooo.... I'll take the Porsche.
@V3LOCITY__
Жыл бұрын
@patrickbai4708I mean it doesn’t 😂 cheapest 992 GT3 is 189k. Cheapest M4 CSL 140k
@vr5lover
Жыл бұрын
@Patrick Bai 280k?? You literally buy 3rs for 250k
@khetheloshabangu8291
Жыл бұрын
No way Rory is comfortable with his seatbelt like that but the car makes you forget that 😅
@GurinderSingh-uh6tv
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking same , that would drive me mad
@chunbaouk
Жыл бұрын
Loving these Alex/Rory track battles!
@StevenYanni
Жыл бұрын
I love that you were on the top gear test track. This should be the top gear we have now. Maybe with Chris as well
@nimish2073
Жыл бұрын
I am not sure who is gonna buy CSL over freaking GT3
@henzo7087
Жыл бұрын
BMW over VW beetle anyday
@HITthegymwithjkhman
Жыл бұрын
ℹ agreed with nimish
@Marc-nc9yv
Жыл бұрын
I feel for you guys, always cold and raining. So hard to do track car reviews. Great job
@stefanocofresi3225
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Coming from car throttle I love to see Alex on the channel. Fills the whole in my heart.
@sesvid
Жыл бұрын
Power/torque vs weight is one thing. But don't forget to consider aero drag, which the GT3 has more of it. This may be the main reason for the M4 being able to catch up with the GT3 on higher straightline speeds.
@gerardmcmillan8591
Жыл бұрын
It is the same with Turbo S vs the GT3.
@BrendanEvan
Жыл бұрын
As long as you could actually get either of these I think the weight alone makes it an easy choice for me! GT3! But I’ve never driven the BMW so who knows for sure
@muhammadzailani7313
Жыл бұрын
That track 😢. So much memories.
@Under_Construction100
Жыл бұрын
Bro 😢😢😢
@Gaming_kids699
Жыл бұрын
I am just impressed that we can now talk about a bmw and a porsche as real competitors, well done bmw for pushing a normal road car to GT3 standards I would go with the bmw just for its sheer driving pleasure and most importantly ITS A LIMITED ADDITION it may be expensive but compared to the GT3 it has better value for money
@benm.3994
Жыл бұрын
Hah the CSL is nowhere even close to the GT3. Limited or not, good luck with getting a GT3. And on the track the CSL will only see the rear end of the GT3 - and not for long
@I999-g2s
Жыл бұрын
I thought M3 vs GT3 was an age old grudge match. M3’s typically punch beyond their weight and 911’s from the 1996-2008 era were similarly priced in the used car market (thanks to all the m96/m97 engine issues).
@henzo7087
Жыл бұрын
@@benm.3994 Bullshit
@jean-pierred1094
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the GT3 is the better car but it costs twice as much in the US in today’s market. Not a really fair comparison. The 911 carrera GTS is the one to compare it to. Also I would love to see you guys test on dry roads for once…
@mightymallet5474
Жыл бұрын
someone commented that the CSL costs 300 grand 🤡
@jean-pierred1094
Жыл бұрын
@@mightymallet5474 $145,000 in the US with the optional paint. $140,000 without.
@pandagrill5874
Жыл бұрын
Auto trader’s got the best presenters…. I’m definitely getting both of these machines cuz I need both a tamed and untamed Rottweiler 😂😂
@Paul-ue8tn
Жыл бұрын
Porsche are on top of the game in recent years. They just feel like they were designed from the outset to be a sports car, as opposed to a multi platform car that was designed to take the family to the zoo, supermarket, commuting etc as comfortably and cheaply as possible, but with sports car components and performance added to it.
@QeeQee1
Жыл бұрын
M4 CSL in US marker now is $300,000 which is completely ludicrous!
@chiragnegi6276
Жыл бұрын
300 grand for that design and mediocre hrsprs
@rdab700
Жыл бұрын
It's a collectible that's why.
@QeeQee1
Жыл бұрын
@@rdab700 No collectible was ever a collectable at inception! Is a chaotic market deluged with new money!
@rdab700
Жыл бұрын
@@QeeQee1 It's a limited edition CSL car. The CSL tag has a pedigree behind it. So yes a car can become a collectible from inception.
@mred1341
Жыл бұрын
@@rdab700 right lol
@AutoalexCars
Жыл бұрын
I actually had to throw my knickers in the bin after this shoot - ruined.
@AutoTraderTV
Жыл бұрын
Look closely… there appears to be toilet tissue in the 911 door pocket 😅
@pmr01
Жыл бұрын
How you gonna explain that to your husband hahaha
@MOTOMAD555
Жыл бұрын
Great review! Shame the UK press M4 CSL does not have the proper CSL seats in it. They make a difference (Once set up for you) and are far better than the Porsche "918" buckets, in my opinion (I own both). I don't think anybody would buy a CSL instead of a GT3, I have love how completely different they are to drive. The GT3 disappears around you, and it feels like you're flying along the road, whereas the CSL demands constant thought, mainly managing traction and speed, as on the road it's a LOT faster than the GT3 in real situations like 40 mph out of a tight corner into a short straight where the GT3 will hit 80 mph and the CSL is at 95 mph. Overtaking is more effortless with all the torque and less likely to offend people in the CSL as it is very quiet. The GT3 is much easier on its tires, I took my CSL on track (Thruxton) on worn Cup 2 R's, and it shredded the rears to the canvass in 7 laps, but wow, what a fun seven laps!
@Fastmetro
8 ай бұрын
Excellent honest owner view, thank you.
@roberttranceedm
Жыл бұрын
AutoTrader is addictive! I love it!
@fisalalmannai2754
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I’m here just to see more of the gt3
@grabir01
Жыл бұрын
Which one generates the most error codes.
@1991julez
Жыл бұрын
Clever edit there Autotrader to hide the GT3 leaving the tarmac @8:31 Even so, GT3 all day long. No question
@OkulSmoK
Жыл бұрын
Great test! Can't remember any gen of GT3 losing duel, maybe except of 991 to 458 speciale. But to me it's always been Porsche.
@christophernissen6932
Жыл бұрын
I know most reviewers put these two against each other, I don't believe it should be.
@slickidrich490
Жыл бұрын
Get these back on the track on a dry day.
@skullft7731
Жыл бұрын
This was the video I was waiting for! Awesome! 👍
@keithronson2624
Жыл бұрын
The Rory and Alex 'bromance' continues! Brilliant! Alex.... ''he didn't turn up that day''... and review of the BMW CSL is incredible. All or bloody nothing.... Still take the BMW simply as it will become a future classic. Cheers guys! More please!
@thomasferrarojr.9772
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@mspeed2441
Жыл бұрын
Great review. This may be a comparison of cars, but it certainly is not a comparison of pricing. CSL: $130,000, GT3 spec’s like the BMW? $220,000.
@roadreg1820
Жыл бұрын
You’ll pay nearly 200 for a GT3.. that’s if you can get one. People are paying almost double list for them. Not the M4 CSL. Also, the CSL is a limited run.
@HURundSoehneAG
Жыл бұрын
@@roadreg1820 This sounds pretty particular to the US. In Switzerland, the M4 CSL costs around 244,000 USD fully speced (list price) and the GT3 starts with a base price of 239,000 USD (list price), and yes you can find brand new GT3s at list price at dealers. The US is treated amazingly with list prices for German cars. They literally get all German cars cheaper than the German Market themselves. Just as a reference, the list price for the GT3 even in Germany is 211,000 USD. For even more reference, the starting price of a Turbo S in Germany is 269,000 USD while in the US the starting price is just 216,000 USD.
@denizzsengul
Жыл бұрын
Nice vid, love the chemistry between rory and alex as well
@SuperLC1010
Жыл бұрын
M3 (csl) that's the upgraded lightweight version, so not standard m3. Why use the normal standard GT3 and not the GT3 RS so it's based on race/track/driving performance?
@AutoTraderTV
Жыл бұрын
Price.
@mhlengidlamini994
Жыл бұрын
An absolute banger. Well done guys.
@Sold_a_dummy
Жыл бұрын
... staring at the twisted seatbelt... ಠ_ʖಠ I would not complain about either of these. But one can't beat Porsches flat six. What a beautiful sound.
@doca8792
Жыл бұрын
I went head to head in my f80 m3 against a 991 gt3rs today. He got me off the line, then I started to reel him in, over and over again.
@solar5286
Жыл бұрын
great comparison, but you could buy two CSLs for the current market price of a 992 GT3. I think this needs to be addressed, as for $140k US there aren't really many better cars that you can actually buy at that price.
@YoRAHeem
Жыл бұрын
Again…fairly certain the M4 is not in Sport+ Mode. Can tell by stance. Not even unleashing its potential. It’s capped.
@YoRAHeem
Жыл бұрын
Yeah! He’s not running it in Sport+ or M1 Dynamic mode.
@WayApp
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking us along on this incredible adventure. Looking forward to more exciting content in the future!
@salomonyffeler5679
Жыл бұрын
Porsche ❤️
@r.r.421
Жыл бұрын
Everything I see a video of these duo, I just like it first and then watch it…they are that good
@schallrauch1187
Жыл бұрын
both cars are reference in its class. The sportscar is more expensiv...for a few thousand Dollars you can get a serial kit to catch exclusivly with this 4,80m long middle-class based car also this reference-sports-Car on driver-streets...
@Under_Construction100
Жыл бұрын
This track has just made me realise how much i miss The 3 Wisemen.
@Pkari
Жыл бұрын
Auto Trader the new Top Gear? ;) Somehow with these 2 guys you have managed to bring a spark that has been missing from most review channels and even shows like TG
@trifectaCA
Жыл бұрын
The blue one won’t depreciate half as much
@MarcSob22
Жыл бұрын
I take the M4 any day!!
@MrRoyck10
Жыл бұрын
Comparing ASDA plunk with fine wine, rabbit and rat, Porsche GT3 and M4 Turbo on a generic saloon platform. The last BMW remains the e46 M3 CSL powered by M, naturally aspirated engine craftsmanship.
@kaousmouloud7381
Жыл бұрын
Easy to choose between the two 💙
@edmurth
Жыл бұрын
Double wishbone suspension has been around forever, Porsche stick it on the front of their beetle and they’re geniuses 😂
@joshreynolds729
Жыл бұрын
The vw beetle was a pos and drove like crap, looked even worse. The 60s edition was the only one made that was decent but even then it was slower than a toad.
@CLSTRN911
Жыл бұрын
Ahahaha you are so funny 😂 double wishbone from the RSR lemans race car and guess what ? The beetle destroy 98% of the supercars with 700hp+ on the track. There is more than just having the name double wishbone Porsche hater
@edmurth
Жыл бұрын
@@CLSTRN911 not another keyboard warrior, it’s a joke you clown. And if had a brain you’d understand the reference to calling a 911 a beetle on that track. Nice work there though, getting defensive for an huge car manufacturer, I’m sure Porsche are relieved you’ve got their back 😂🤡 700hp? You’re clearly a subject matter expert, not 🤡
@joshreynolds729
Жыл бұрын
@@CLSTRN911 I don’t hate Porsche 🤣. I hated the Beatles, specifically the newer ones. Never said the double wish bone was bad nor did I say that Porsche isn’t accomplished in racing and sports cars along with handling. But the beatle was a chicks car all of them. Yeah sure you can make them fast but really that’s mainly due to weight. But it’s not on that stock motor that it comes with 🤣.
@CLSTRN911
Жыл бұрын
@@joshreynolds729 nooo the comment was not for you 💀
@stefanmolnar4345
Жыл бұрын
BMW is faster, looks better, is more special thats all. Track conditions were not good for test
@FrilansPhilip
Жыл бұрын
You 2 are a perfect "Top Tube" version!!
@madmaxx8800
Жыл бұрын
As i bmw owner I’ll take the gt3🍻
@bernardchimombe
4 ай бұрын
You got to hand it over to BMW for being able to turn a full size luxury coupe into performance car that can keep up with a GT3 . It never stood a chance vs a rear mounted engine sports car .
@florianhaffner3910
Жыл бұрын
The M4 is a great machine, but the GT3 is just perfection
@arnsteinholm7372
8 ай бұрын
You add a lot more downforce from the wing ... just saying ;-)
@premonemo
11 ай бұрын
I’m always confused by the comparison between the M4 CSL and GT3, besides the price (M4 CSL way too much but the GT3 will never be sticker). The M4 is a souped up saloon and the GT3 is a watered down race car… They don’t meet in the middle.
@premonemo
11 ай бұрын
Objectively the GT3 is the better car, anyone who buys the M4 CSL either wasn’t interested in the GT3 or already owns one.
@Elkott
Жыл бұрын
That short bloke is pretty good at this car thing 😉
@Gautam454
Жыл бұрын
Is there a single person in the world who would take a M4cs over a GT3?!!
@johnscpmg4862
Жыл бұрын
Double wishbone is not new to sports cars. Why did it take them 50 plus years to catch up? It's kinda like not having lsd as a standard in their 911s.
@victordeltoids8609
Жыл бұрын
I love them both but if I can only have one, it's the GT3💪🔥🔥
@albertogonzalez1746
Жыл бұрын
Why do the Brits insist on reviewing cars in the worst weather all the time. Just go to Spain to review
@scottw7895
Жыл бұрын
Oh look, another rainy day car review from the UK...
@ronin120
Жыл бұрын
The Shark Blue of the Porsche is just gorgeous.
@sanketss84
Жыл бұрын
If I were to pick one right now I would pick the Porsche GT3 RS over the BMW. BMW makes great cars but Porsche 911 has my ❤.
@tepes141
5 ай бұрын
For sure it's a matter of brand preference so I'd take the bimmer 😁💪
@Lindi82
Жыл бұрын
Once I got a 997.2 GT3RS and that noise never left my ears again. A naturally aspirated Porsche engine sounds orgasmic.
@Kingabdvl
Жыл бұрын
Basically, if you’ve got the money for a Porsche, get the Porsche 😊
@tyronethecarkid5810
Жыл бұрын
I loves bmws alot but gt3 with manual if one of my dream cars❤
@GarryMcGovern
Жыл бұрын
Manuals are for investors or those too influenced by KZitem videos. If you're focussed on the 'involvement' of a manual when out driving a GT3....... you're not doing it right. I'll keep a manual in my Caterham or old Peugeot 205 1.9 GTi, but in this? PDK, all the way.
@naskrajuciszy
Жыл бұрын
Comparing a purpose built sports car with a tuned 4 series doesn't seem like a fair deal. The only thigt these cars have in common is the price
@patrickpierre6114
Жыл бұрын
I would take a Gt3 any day over that BMW.
@TimWilliamsHD
Жыл бұрын
Transformation 😍
@dnice362
Жыл бұрын
These are the price?! Criminal
@rossfripp4503
Жыл бұрын
Did Alex have the BMW in RWD only? SUrely 4WD would be best for those conditions.
@AutoTraderTV
Жыл бұрын
The CSL is RWD
@dair919
Жыл бұрын
Taking the GT3 3very day of the week, and twice on Sundays.
@alexgadsdon5375
Жыл бұрын
csl isn't a track car it's a handling focused road car that is capable on track. Track cars have wings and diffusers. Waste of time if you aren't maximizing aero.
@danieljordan5572
Жыл бұрын
Recognized that track in minutes, good it's still getting used
@pamo5900
Жыл бұрын
No race? No lap times? This wasn' track battle..
@AutoTraderTV
Жыл бұрын
Too wet for hot laps, sorry. The track was pretty dangerous.
@jaysparrow6631
Жыл бұрын
@@AutoTraderTVI say my fellow good man; you know what we want but went ahead with a wet track anyway!!! Sad times 😢
@thecompanioncube4211
Жыл бұрын
Porcsche all the way every day. What a machine.
@dy8863
Жыл бұрын
cars that are not within $10K of each other, should not be in a comparison test. No one cross shops a GT3 with a M4CSL
@johnblackburn4759
Жыл бұрын
Likable reviewers, but a "track battle" in the pouring rain? And the M4 isn't even in the same class as the GT3. Still a bit fun to watch
@Bobby.enjoys
Жыл бұрын
M4 cls is excellent but I prefer 911 gt3 👌🏻
@tonnichiwa7603
Жыл бұрын
The BMW sounds like an old (2005-2013) AMG. Tons of power, a sledge hammer, a bit too much to handle. Too bad Mercedes forgot what made their cars special.
@ponanikhoza1934
Жыл бұрын
Y'all crazyeth...🤣
@kenoh818
Жыл бұрын
Of course the GT3 would prevail. It was predictable but... for the M4 CSL to get this close! Hats off to BMW!
@michaelbyers955
Жыл бұрын
I'm a BMW enthusiast but this isn't a competition. Its a GT3 which maybe the best overall car made. Dude come on.
@proteinfart5017
Жыл бұрын
130 pounds for a gt3, cars are like double the price of the CSL in the US lol
@jermainen7846
Жыл бұрын
I own a fast beemer, planning on getting another beemer for my next car and I'll still have the Porsche. They just do that type of car better. Much better.
@furzedowner
Жыл бұрын
I always wondered what the Lighthouse Family were up to these days...(?!)
@silv3rArrow
Жыл бұрын
In the wet I wonder if you notice any difference between the CSL and a Competition
@johnv4866
Жыл бұрын
I won't be disappointed if I don't see any more videos of Alex. In fact, I probably won't watch any if he is in them.
@declanminoli5361
Жыл бұрын
He is really annoying
@rjd592
Жыл бұрын
Porsche PDK vs BMW 8AT is not both losing. There’s a CLEAR winner lol
@rafi7252
Жыл бұрын
i really hope to afford one gt3 in the future, i really really want that car, good luck to myself.
@marashamalcolm7704
11 ай бұрын
M4 csl all day, the will be another gt3, but m not certain that the will be another m4csl n its more unique its like nothing in the road
@05assahse
Жыл бұрын
GT3!!!
@nimish2073
Жыл бұрын
Who does drag race on wet surface?
@AutoTraderTV
Жыл бұрын
We didn't order rain.
@nimish2073
Жыл бұрын
@@AutoTraderTV it's pretty useless. But it's your channel. Do whatever you can do :D
@DDGB08
Жыл бұрын
Great review
@reilym979
Жыл бұрын
I like seeing Rory by himself
@anesennaidoo5279
Жыл бұрын
Just because you have 2 cars on the same day does not mean they should be compared... the GT3 is in a league of its own.
@nicholaswoodward8191
Жыл бұрын
Bit of a knife to a gunfight moment!
@somerandomfella
Жыл бұрын
It's a privelage if you can own either one of them.
@mateosinani7936
Жыл бұрын
When you say track battle I expect times to be measured. This was just a review. Pick up the game lads.
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