I’ve pushed 400 ISO film stocks to 1600, there were many times I had to correct colours to remove a green tint. You can certainly get usable results!
@bornwithoutamind7723
11 ай бұрын
Do you know what app did he use for metering?
@AdaltonCristinoCostaBorges
10 ай бұрын
@@bornwithoutamind7723 Lumu Light Meter
@cooperdoyle988
9 ай бұрын
@@bornwithoutamind7723 lumu light meter
@williamberger8391
11 ай бұрын
I'd kind of love to see a different use case here. It doesn't feel natural to push 800 in daylight, but I'd be super interested to see how it fared in low light, indoors, or night time. These are all cases when you could shoot 800 just fine--and it is a useful exercise to see the color shift. But I'd also love to understand how pushing works in scenarios where 800 might just not give you the range you'd need.
@sambrumley_productions
11 ай бұрын
I might see a use case with long telephoto lenses and needing fast shutter speeds with less-than-ideal lighting outside
@LaskyLabs
11 ай бұрын
As much as I'd love a native 1600 ISO color film, I have to admit that Portra 800 pushed one stop has always been a pretty good stand-in. Still... Natura or Superia 1600 would be very welcome. But if I was given the choice for a new film stock, I'd rather have Ektachrome 400 or Provia 400X.
@LaskyLabs
11 ай бұрын
Seriously, if Fuji brought back Provia 400X, I would get a FujiFilm tattoo and forgive them for every great filmstock they've killed in the past decade.
@someonewithsomename
11 ай бұрын
Well native iso is usually a murky territory. Usually all those 1600iso films are 800iso pushed. They just market it as 1600 and put additional development time on the box
@LaskyLabs
11 ай бұрын
@@someonewithsomename fair.
@g1234538
11 ай бұрын
Pushing is said to work a lot worse, while pulling (or "printing down") is almost preferred to avoid any muddiness in the dark areas with normal exposures. And because you can apparently safely get 5+ stops that way. Would you do a video experimenting with pulling film?
@ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
11 ай бұрын
Why would you pull 5 stops?
@MC_Photo
11 ай бұрын
Never pull film unless it is slide film.
@timothe5198
11 ай бұрын
Yep
@GTXTi-db5xu
11 ай бұрын
Why would anyone ever pull film? There's no point.
@fckcptlsm
11 ай бұрын
you mean -5 stops lol. make your iso800 a iso25...
@dinofio3001
9 ай бұрын
1:53 can I ask what is this light meter app? Been looking for one for quite some time now. Thanks in advance!
@Mid20studio
11 ай бұрын
thank you for explaining what pushing film is in a very simple way.🙏🏾
@niftyfiftyfilm
11 ай бұрын
Always a good day when a Willem notification pops up ✌️✌️✌️
@zanderwilll
11 ай бұрын
So glad you’re posting more consistently again
@ryanbhangdia
11 ай бұрын
this is a great video, I love the way you communicate the nuance of pushing film and what's actually going on with the highlights v shadows in development
@benjstory
11 ай бұрын
Willem out here doing the lords work. Paying to make these mistakes so we don't have to
@marximus4
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for that clear, concise explainer on pushing film. I hear a lot of film photographers talk about it (as a digital shooter) but I've never understood how exactly one "pushes" film.
@RADMAN5240
11 ай бұрын
I push +2 to +4 all the time for concert photos and nighttime street photography, and I find that DSLR scanning goes a long way in helping bring out more detail in shadows or with high-contrast images.
@goldenhourkodak
11 ай бұрын
DSLR scanning actually has less dynamic range than a flatbed or a labscan
@danieljimenez1989
11 ай бұрын
Unless you do multiple exposures and compile them as if doing HDR in post.
@Adrian-wd4rn
11 ай бұрын
@@goldenhourkodak My man said a sensor made in the early 2000's has higher dynamic range than a modern sensor. A 60mp sony would outresolve every bit of detail a medium format negative has, including the shadows and highlights. The fact you mentioned a flatbed shows how incredibly out of touch you really are.
@postnick
11 ай бұрын
This is amazing example and explanation. Great shots. I hate how ugly is is where I live and how beautiful it is where you are!
@kenneth_mirez
11 ай бұрын
i love the idea of you reviewing the photos. please put them on full screen next time so we can see them bigger. thank you Willem for this beautiful video :)
@VariTimo
11 ай бұрын
One tip for pushing film in daylight is to set the meter to one third stop less than you want to push it. Just to give the shadows more room. So for 3200 you’d meter at 2500. For night stuff where you’d push film because it’s really dark and you’re not using a tripod, it’s better not to meter at all and just give the film as much light as is practical. Maybe meter for some medium lit spot on a stage to make you’re not loosing anything.
@thomashenden71
6 ай бұрын
Well, I would say that taking photos in that already high contrast light at sunset, while pushing the film, is really pushing it! 😄
@nataliabednarek1139
10 ай бұрын
What is this app you used in this video to meter the light?
@trippwilsonphoto
11 ай бұрын
cant wait for the long weekend backpack
@jamicanshakin
10 ай бұрын
What app do you use for metering?
@AdamWilkoszarski
11 ай бұрын
I would love to see the same test for 35mm film!
@pd1jdw630
11 ай бұрын
Just wished you had a reaction video of the lab. Thanks for sharing! 👌🏻
@Pixogeth
11 ай бұрын
Great time to open KZitem!
@patrickjclarke
11 ай бұрын
The data sheet for Portra 800 says you can push to 3200 no problem, and even tells you the negative density relative to box speed. Data sheets are amazing.
@Kev_Thomson
11 ай бұрын
13:25 what an intriguing totally generic everyday backpack 👀
@zroh_in
11 ай бұрын
Which light meter app do you use on your phone ?
@juztalejandro
11 ай бұрын
I did my own research and I think is the Lumu Light Meter
@zroh_in
11 ай бұрын
@@juztalejandronice ! Thank you 😁.
@tipoffmedia
10 ай бұрын
Willem can be a documentary reporter for classic photography. His delivery is so relaxing. I'd listen to him talk all day
@bobsykes
11 ай бұрын
Really interesting! This also falls into that much loved catagory of "William did this so I don't have too" videos! ✌
@ixxgxx
11 ай бұрын
I remember pushing Tri-x400 to 1600 in 1989 Central America. red filters in the print room.
@codyazari1957
11 ай бұрын
Try pushing some Kodak Vision3 film! I've been experimenting with 250d pushed to 1000 and I've been getting really great, consistent results.
@BriannaSaba
11 ай бұрын
Loved this video! Such a good visual explanation of pushing film.
@tiagosancho9328
11 ай бұрын
Not sure if this makes sense cuz you can compensate with slower shutter buuuut do this at night. Please! Just curious 😅
@alinobrete6063
11 ай бұрын
I'm curious how the negatives looks after lab work
@ColtonMatocha
11 ай бұрын
Great work! It was very interesting to see this! Would love to see how far portra 160 or 400 can go!
@RJMPictures
11 ай бұрын
Kyle McDougal has a video on his channel with those as well
@VariTimo
11 ай бұрын
Portra 400 can to 3200 but thats about it. It doesn’t have the underexposure latitude 800 has.
@jmguitarnavy
11 ай бұрын
I pushed portra 400 to 1600 and the grain was similar to the original portra 800! Too much color-correction needed, but for night and telephoto lens photography it's a fun experiment.
@OmgitsAntonio
11 ай бұрын
incredible video! i have to ask, what app is that??
@cvandebroek
11 ай бұрын
It's called Light Meter. The makers also sell a device which you can attach to your phone to make it a real incident light meter.
@chrisallton4409
10 ай бұрын
I used to push Ektar 1000 5 stops and print 1.5meter (5ft) wide ra4 prints from 35mm negs lovely grain❤❤❤❤
@AbstractKnife
11 ай бұрын
Wow, Portra 800 @ 3200 is something I'm willing to try out now!
@jucab8631
11 ай бұрын
Nice vid as always ! What light meter app did you use btw ? Thanks ❤
@anousee3756
11 ай бұрын
According to @jdhxhd it's Umu Light Meter
@tedvitale4354
10 ай бұрын
I honestly kinda love the pushed to 3200.
@jd87a
11 ай бұрын
Cool video - I would have liked to see you shoot in very low light scenarios, or more flat light - I feel pushing is typically used more on gray days and indoors.
@riqbeq
11 ай бұрын
Bro had me for a second that Kodak released that
@herzogseth3506
11 ай бұрын
Somehow this stock at 3200 makes West Coast Light look like East Coast Light
@cooperdouglass4307
11 ай бұрын
Love the video Willem! Do you use a light meter app, use one in camera, or use an external one?
@Leefboi
11 ай бұрын
would the effects of pushing that many stops be amplified on lower ISO film like 200 to 800? I feel the contrast and blown out highlights would be much more intense than on more sensitive film. Also would love to see this in a black and white version, that increase in contrast could add a nice style
@ferdinandgrunert4695
11 ай бұрын
Almost everybody I know shoots Ilford HP5 (native ISO 400) at 1600. Box Speed just looks very pale on this stock. So yes, in bnw photography it is well appreciated.
@VariTimo
11 ай бұрын
Gold has two stops of underexposure latitude so it can do 800 without pushing. Pushing would probably give you really saturated colors and a lot of contrast. I’ve tested just shooting at 800 and not pushing and they came out a bit warm, flat, and muted but still pretty usable.
@jayryco
11 ай бұрын
What light meter app is that @ 1:50? :) ty
@offbrandcontent8779
11 ай бұрын
Willem, been a subscriber for a long time. I have to ask, are the rings a family thing or just your style? Dig em.
@jalo4242
11 ай бұрын
The look of the image at 10:50 reminds me of ecn2 cross processed E100.
@dinokuznikphoto
11 ай бұрын
Cool nonchalant Easter egg. Did nobody notice?
@giacomoandreani5473
11 ай бұрын
why aren't you using the built in light meter?
@JamesEMann
11 ай бұрын
Great explanation!
@gabeblanco74
11 ай бұрын
what i've learned is that if someone pushes me, i should say stop! +1
@kevinscotton
11 ай бұрын
Go willem go willem go
@danielalexvisions
11 ай бұрын
Superb content as ever, but I have a question unrelated to photography... what t-shirts are you repping, pro-club? I'm in need of some staple, plain t-shirts and the ones you're wearing look crispy. Can we all agree?
@jonathanparker8701
11 ай бұрын
Love it!! What light meter app are you using?
@jdhxhd
11 ай бұрын
i was curious too and i found it, it’s called lumu light meter
@michaelseirer
11 ай бұрын
what app are you using in the video and can it really used for spot metering? cheers
@OscarFunes
11 ай бұрын
It seems to be the Lumu Light Meter App
@michaelseirer
11 ай бұрын
cheers@@OscarFunes
@enniodanieli
11 ай бұрын
I have this app and I can only make it work in Spot Metering as well. How does he make it meter the whole screen?
@enniodanieli
11 ай бұрын
Hey, I found out how to do it. In bottom left corner of camera view there is text “POINT”. Tap on the text "POINT" and you can switch between point and screen measurement.
@michaelseirer
11 ай бұрын
@@enniodanieli i think the spot metering is the useful one! though I cant really check for correctness since I do not have a physical light meter with spot measure capabilities. Will try it though the next time and fully use the zone system for the first time :)
@vicktoriousng7948
11 ай бұрын
Pushing film really makes sense to me only when I'm trying to shoot some night time photos without a tripod. Day time photos would always look a bit off.
@whateverrandomnumber
10 ай бұрын
At 6400 you would have to have actually PULLED two stops. Back to 800. 😂
@cvandebroek
11 ай бұрын
Would you mind sharing how the lab pushed your film? Pushing the film by extending development time is one way to do it but most labs don't have maschines to extend the time, so they increase the temperature of their chemicals. Higher temps tend to have a worst effect on colours (beyond +1). Would be great if you could share this info.
@olwethusilo7155
11 ай бұрын
Fully agree and would be interesting to see how different development times affect the pushed roll.
@robdixon5016
10 ай бұрын
For my 2c I spent 22 years in commercial film processing and printing. In those busy film days our processors could not push or pull film. The exception was the E6 processor which was able to do it. And unfortunately it was a mechanical dial to set the process. Many films were unintentionally pushed or pulled if the setting was not changed for the new films.
@zoelin1011
11 ай бұрын
I've gotten my favorite photos pushing portra 400 to 1600 iso but only if i shoot at blue hour as soon as the sun sets, and with 1 or 2 continuous lights
@YK-xo3bz
11 ай бұрын
Great video ! So happy I found this channel ! May I ask which app of light meter you are using ?
@CheapThrillsLive
11 ай бұрын
Appreciate this video, I have recently been actively taking pictures of birds in their natural habitat & I've been using Portra by 1 stop in order to use high ISO. I want to push it further in order to capture movements of birds interacting with one another rather than just static images. So if this 6400 image is somewhat pleasing with a log scan, I might do it. Appreciate the content! Also for contrast shake, you should maybe have shot the 6400 first? Maybe you did and I can't tell from the editing, but just a thought.
@Zero-bb1hl
10 ай бұрын
what’s the metering app you’re using? Great video!
@ThatRcThing
11 ай бұрын
Side note, rip to that w124 merc.. mine died from similar damage same color too!
@aherprasad
11 ай бұрын
PUSHING 🅿‼‼‼‼
@kevindiossi
10 ай бұрын
Is there a reason you shot most photos at f/16? Some of those shutter speeds were unnecessarily long and could have been raised by opening the aperture.
@jeffjarboe3634
11 ай бұрын
@WillemVerb I’ve always been under the impression that c41 film, has a lot of attitude and that with one stop over or under you don’t need to adjust development time
@iamr8262
11 ай бұрын
We need that backpack, gotta stop teasing us
@chrisallton4409
10 ай бұрын
Never be afraid to lose the shadows if it suits your look
@SamSilk
2 ай бұрын
Probably answered a hundred times but what is Willem's metering app we see at the beginning of the video?
@Nercampix
11 ай бұрын
Hi Willem, i undertsand lot of things with this video so thank you ! What is your light meter app?
@jordanlaine7412
11 ай бұрын
Shoots Natura 1600 in direct sun, you know, for the vibes.
@shox6994
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the nice video! I wonder (or if I missed it) why did you shoot at F16 and not lets say F8 just in regards to diffraction blur.
@JonathanCWard
4 ай бұрын
Weird there are no replies to any of these comments from him.
@Itsmrbot
11 ай бұрын
hey, willem may I know which light meter app you were using in this video.
@lennardm4752
11 ай бұрын
„generic everyday backpack“ 😂😂😂
@0800filmez
9 ай бұрын
Can I ask what light metering you are using on your phone? Thanks!
@remy5615
11 ай бұрын
cool idea! I wonder if you could push vision3 500t to for example iso 800?
@VariTimo
11 ай бұрын
They did this a lot for The Hateful 8 so you can get an idea. It’s also been photochemically printed so that’s really good to evaluate what that does. But two third of a stop isn’t really much. The whole first season of Succession was shot on 500T and exposed at 800 without a push. It can easily be pushed to 1000 without any real loss in image quality.
@milagroswilliams2000
11 ай бұрын
Can someone explain to me what pushing +2/+4 is? I don't understand. I'm kinda new at photography
@wiegerdop9023
9 ай бұрын
Anyone know how he is able to adjust the aperture setting in lumu light meter? I can only edit the shutter speed
@gameuploaderish
10 ай бұрын
If I set the iso to 1600 do I have to increase my shutter to compensate ?
@theeramet.a
10 ай бұрын
Good 📷🎞
@JitamanyuDas
11 ай бұрын
The crooked calendar on the wall is triggering my ocd 😅😅
@HunterSkowronPDX
11 ай бұрын
is that up on mt Washington by Eric Weirheims house?
@mariikamint3608
10 ай бұрын
Where did you scan this shots? By which scanner?)
@jowass
7 ай бұрын
what app he was using for photo shot metering ??
@MaximillianandRubyGrace
3 ай бұрын
What kind of camera are you using?
@BmcN72
11 ай бұрын
What would the development be if doing it at home?
@charliethirkettle3741
10 ай бұрын
Does anyone know what Light meter app he is using?
@Zaczly
11 ай бұрын
what lightmeter app is that?
@tommyportras
11 ай бұрын
does anyone know what app he's using to meter? i've never seen this one before and would love to try it!
@brightonzuludjgunner1825
11 ай бұрын
Lumu light meter
@AshmitdebroyYOLOSWAG
11 ай бұрын
whats that light metering apps name?
@adilkhalifa8489
10 ай бұрын
does anyone know what app he was using at 1:53
@Jerry10939
Ай бұрын
Porta 800 is good to 3200. I don’t know about 6400.
@EL_PLAGA
11 ай бұрын
This is going to be good lmaoo
@m9shamalan
10 ай бұрын
the shadows drop off into black when you push film because of reciprocity error, i believe. you are underexposing the shadows so much that the crystals in the film never get enough photons to react.
@guillaumeleu7234
11 ай бұрын
Hello, Just a quick comment: you cannot push color films. What wou explain in the vidéo is correct (the reason why the contrast is changing depending on how much you push the film) for black and white stuff. The way color film works is different: Wou have 3 layers of silver way more thin than the one on a black and white film. The job of theses layers are to indicate who the red, green and blue colors are present in the image. Add time to the color development process does not affect the colorants, because all the silver is whashed out at the earlyer stage of the process. The results that make people think that Pushing a colorfilm is possible (in addition with the marketing argument that you can push it in a minilab and charge more to a customer...) is the fact that professionnal color films like portra and 400h has a huuuuuuge dynamic range, way more forgiving than for example slide films. So when you push your film, it's the latitude of your film and not the development process that brings details in the shadows. Adding more time in the developer can bring weird colorshift (at the same temp). If you want to do the test, you can shoot a scene at 3200 or 6400 and try to develop both rolls at 400 ISO. You will struggle to find any changes on the density, maybe differents colorshift but nothing more. But what you explain on contrast and why the shadows are washed out when you push film is absolutely accurate. Wish you a nice day :).
@janbielikowski
11 ай бұрын
Yes you can. Dye couplers react to amount of silver halide on each layer and they form dyes that form color image. Silver is washed out in blix after developing. There are also B&W chromogenic films. And you can push slide film.
@guillaumeleu7234
11 ай бұрын
@@janbielikowski If you understand French here is a video of Come, owner of Labo1000, a fotographic lab in France, explaining way more good than I am why this is working like this. kzitem.info/news/bejne/rKCPm4aObpeBdZg Anyway, not here to convince anyone, have a great day and good photos :) See you.
@cbeam
11 ай бұрын
Light meter app?
@utomotjipto5294
6 ай бұрын
I love film rendering, too bad the very high cost of the film roll, process and print are prohibitive for daily use.
@AromalKumar-b9b
4 ай бұрын
Very good sir Good morning From Namitha aromal Kerala Palakkad
@ale_s45
11 ай бұрын
NIce
@FolkeStorm
2 күн бұрын
Wait, aren't you going the wrong way? If you want more light information as if the film was ISO 3200, then you rate the film to ISO 200 to overexpose it by 2 stops, and then pull the film. Right?
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