Before the discussions online a few of us in our group were talking about this and how to better conceptualize it. Your videos always come at the right time and your library is invaluable. Always a pleasure to learn more.
@pannonianfit1582
2 жыл бұрын
as always Greg delivers
@TimBarnesPolygonPerformance
Жыл бұрын
Great context and break down.
@sqb2
10 ай бұрын
Hi Greg, is there a rule for how much knee flexion is acceptable in the power position, at what point is the knee angle too big or too small? Thank you!
@CatalystAthletics
10 ай бұрын
Not exactly - in the actual lifts, it's dependent on proportions and the timing of initiating the second pull. So it's possible to have too much, but assuming the snatch/clean are being done correctly, your goal is to replicate approximately the knee angle you personally have at the end of the scoop of your own snatch/clean.
@Mr.Ciobanu
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@pierrerichard7742
2 жыл бұрын
Very good !
@michaeljonathan543
9 ай бұрын
What do you recommend someone doing who’s timing is off? My form is still terrible and I’ve been doing these lifts for 3 years now
@retardno002
Жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaaaahaaaaaa, eureka moment!
@phrsngx5675
2 жыл бұрын
A few months ago I bought your book and a pair of weightlifting shoes. I can tolerate a decent amount of training volume due to a few years of general strength training (SBD and lots of OHP) and my mobility is ok. Should I pick the Level 0 template or the Beginner template?
@CatalystAthletics
2 жыл бұрын
Start with level 0 and see how it goes - you may be able to move past it quickly.
@phrsngx5675
2 жыл бұрын
@@CatalystAthletics Nice. Thank you!
@curtisgorkoff7519
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know he he had a book! What's it called?
@CatalystAthletics
2 жыл бұрын
@@curtisgorkoff7519 amzn.to/31OkIqB
@charlesborel8493
2 жыл бұрын
So hang variations would be a good way to train yourself not to jump back when in the power position?
@CatalystAthletics
2 жыл бұрын
From power position, yes; not hang in general. No reason hang from knee or below knee, for example, would necessarily prevent your replicating the same errors you make from the floor.
@charlesborel8493
2 жыл бұрын
@@CatalystAthletics So something more along the lines of a high hip snatch? And I’m not a full on weightlifter but I do enjoy them very much and think they help with dunking. I appreciate the tip and it is a very good point. I thought my problem was because I wasn’t keeping my feet on the ground as long as possible in the power position was translating to jumping back which may be a by product of leaning too far back.
@CatalystAthletics
2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesborel8493 No because hip snatch means shoulders are over the bar and hips are back, which is not power position. End of this video shows what I'm talking about.
@charlesborel8493
2 жыл бұрын
@@CatalystAthletics okay I get it, was a little confused but I understand what you mean by power position. So a better ? Would be would what do I need to work on to stop jumping back in the power position/ drill that would help
@CatalystAthletics
2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesborel8493 Pull to hold, pull from power position, pull to hold or pull + snatch... all focusing on whole foot balance through the drive instead of shifting toward heels. www.catalystathletics.com/exercises/
@michaeldyer3244
2 жыл бұрын
The power position is where drive the legs into floor and extend hips ?
@CatalystAthletics
2 жыл бұрын
No - legs have been driving the whole time, and the hips have been extending for a while by that point.
@Laglagpaddy
Жыл бұрын
Do the heels have to be in contact with the floor/feet flat at the power position?
@CatalystAthletics
Жыл бұрын
That's considered ideal, but depending on how/why heels are up at that point, it may or may not be a problem - kzitem.info/news/bejne/14GV3a2ma5V6a2k
@goodysgotit
2 жыл бұрын
Coach is up early.
@hivenoun7401
2 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely not trying to argue! I'm just trying to understand and learn, since this has been absolute pain in the ass for me in the past three years of self teaching. Power position to me has been a bit different. My shoulders are slightly over the bar since I feel like that position is the strongest. I feel like in that position I could almost jump to the moon. ( see a video of Julian for example: kzitem.info/news/bejne/rmx9zYavrIydlZw this could be me if there was less weights on the bar, less muscles... basically less everything, but the position looks identical to mine, this is the image in my head every time I pull, snatch or clean ) I think Torokthyi teaches snatches in this way and some other people in the internet that I've stalked furiously like Samtlr ( kzitem.infoHY_IsWURH-o ) and Yasha Kahn. In this power position video you described in the end that you should not stay over the bar excessively, but in this exercise it's actually enforced and encouraged ( kzitem.info/news/bejne/xn6X2HyOh5V6l20 ) to reach the "hip pocket" while staying over the bar. How... Well... Shit. Can I conclude this whole ordeal like: - Staying over the bar exercises where you excessively try to stay over, strengthens your posterior muscles so you can remain more patient with the pull - It doesn't mean that snatches or cleans should be actually done with a form like that where your power position ends up being over the bar?
@CatalystAthletics
2 жыл бұрын
That's quite a novel so I'll do my best to cover it all... 1. PP has nothing to do with where you feel most powerful. If so, it would be just above the knee. 2. The Samtlr guy... the first photo he uses is of me. That's not the power position. It's a moment in the second pull before reaching the power position. Again, see #1 - it's not the power position because it's the most powerful position, so this is a problematic argument. The analogy he's making to other sports (the athletic position) isn't appropriate because it's comparing 2 unrelated things (again, see #1). 3. Halting DLs, pulls to hip, etc are exercises to build postural strength to be capable of staying over the bar long enough - to that end, we exaggerate the timing of staying over. Similar to how we use a muscle snatch to strengthen the 3rd pull - you can't look at that exercise and assume it reflects what should be happening in an actual snatch. 4. Conclusion - yes.
@hivenoun7401
2 жыл бұрын
@@CatalystAthletics thanks for taking the time to answer, truly appreciated.
@Kodak.mal06
2 жыл бұрын
What video of yours would you recommend for people who Power clean more than they clean? I weigh about 72kg and my clean is 114 while my power clean is 118
@ea5266
2 жыл бұрын
Is yours an ankle mobility issue?
@31sebman
2 жыл бұрын
high hangs are your friends
@CatalystAthletics
2 жыл бұрын
See this - www.catalystathletics.com/article/2058/How-to-Fix-Powering-More-Than-You-Squat/
@Kodak.mal06
2 жыл бұрын
@@ea5266 not that i know of because getting low isn’t uncomfortable to me, and my knee crease is well above my hip crease
@dwightkimdemayo8542
2 жыл бұрын
Should the power position at the clean needs to also be at the hip similar to a snatch or is it okay to have it higher at the thigh(lower hip contact) For me, who has a relatively short torso but longer arms, I struggle the most creating contact at the hip in clean. I have to be almost near the width of my snatch just to have the bar contact at the hip
@CatalystAthletics
2 жыл бұрын
"at the hips in the snatch and between upper thigh and hips in the clean."
@rattankabir1442
Жыл бұрын
Sir how much the knees should be pushed out in starting position of snatch?
@CatalystAthletics
Жыл бұрын
Typically until they contact inside of arms. - kzitem.info/news/bejne/wpxrtmmom4mShqg
@diegoguerra8139
2 жыл бұрын
Is it a technical issue if my torso doesn't lean back as much after hitting the power position?, i tend to naturally stay quite upright after hitting the power position, but still my shoulders are behind the barbell. For example, see Nathan Damron he doesn't lean back as much when he hits the power position, should this be fixed or it doesn't matter? Thanks as always Greg
@CatalystAthletics
2 жыл бұрын
You need to open the hips enough to be balanced (if whole body is actually vertical, balance is forward) and allow the bar and body to move past each other well, i.e. bar not moving to far forward. How much that is varies among lifters quite a bit.
@beastboy2782
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Greg, should I stick to the same weight in front and back squat until the weight feel easy or should I move to next weight if I hit the same weight 4-5 times in a row..(I feel the same weight heavy sometimes,but I hit that weight more than 10 times but it feels heavy sometimes what should I do should I stick to the same weight or move on..
@alubchicken
2 жыл бұрын
if you don't have a program you should always move up the weight if you can. If you do have a program, just follow the program and trust the process.
@beastboy2782
2 жыл бұрын
@@alubchicken thank you
@CatalystAthletics
2 жыл бұрын
Yes the goal is to progress in weight but as above said, you should be following a program. Tons of free and cheap ones out there. At your level of experience, you shouldn't be trying to program for yourself. www.catalystathletics.com/olympic-weightlifting-workouts/training-programs/
@beastboy2782
2 жыл бұрын
@@CatalystAthletics thank you I bought your Olympic weightlifting book thrid edition it really helping me.
@Mikey__R
Жыл бұрын
I thought the power position is the quarter squat, the position you catch the bar in a power clean or power snatch.
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