The trick to those brake calipers is leave the post mounts a little loose, then go up and wrap something onto the brake lever to push the pads in against the rotor. Go back to the caliper again and tighten them, and enjoy centered brakes since both pads retract away from the rotor. You can do the same with mechanical disc brakes, except you have to turn in the non-moving pad 3-5 clicks beforehand, then turn it the same number back out after so the rotor doesn't rub
@JoshStreetDesign
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was the first thing I tried. It didn't work, especially when you have a slight bend in your rotor. These are floating pads.
@bobikleeds
3 жыл бұрын
That vibration is caused by the magnetic field. Magnets going over the poles in your stator. It is the same with all brushless motors. Drones etc have the same type of vibration.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
I hear what you're saying but I don't think that's the cause because it doesn't do it if it's not cranked down with the lock nuts. So if it's just sitting there loose in the dropouts I can spin it and it doesn't make that noise or vibration at all....
@that_guy6116
3 жыл бұрын
I am so shocked that you don’t have at least a million subs because your videos are so high quality
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude, I appreciate that! It's probably because the people who appreciate this stuff are still far and few in between
@yermommy777
3 жыл бұрын
The “cogging” that you feel from spinning the wheel when the nuts are tightened is probably from the bearings in the motor case being squeezed. The rubber seats of the bearings don’t like to be compressed and you can feel their resistance to movement at low speeds. The stock qs motor bearings are ok but I have seen some people upgrading them for higher quality ones. You should get about 5000 miles out of the stock bearings.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Now that answer sounds about right make sense. But it's kind of like a catch-22 because you don't want to have those nuts loose otherwise those axle flats will spin
@josephburch2605
3 жыл бұрын
It could possibly be a design flaw and or with the use of small diameter washers as spacers, putting too much force on the inner race of the bearing. The force needs to be applied to both the inner and the outter race of the bearing for the bearing to work properly. Very expensive bike hubs are designed to virtually eliminate the lateral forces associated with securing and tightening a wheel on a bike
@ianmangham4570
2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign You need a larger diameter spacer so the pressure sits on the motor case not the bearing
@juice9767
9 ай бұрын
@ianmangham4570 thanks, I also just learned something, because even my current qs205 has a drag that I hate. But this explains it perfectly
@clemens8763
3 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your experience, I have the 3.5t motor and am also addicted to ebikes. maybe I will do a video as well.
@MrDeceptacon88
3 жыл бұрын
Hi there..what is your tope speed for the 3.5T? And your voltage? Thanks!
@fpvlee1586
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you got the bike sorted in the end fella.Can clearly see the bike is lacking amps and suffering voltage sag because the 17kw 5t 273 i had a ride on was lifting the front everywhere and and spinning like crazy.Just build a 22s samsung 40t pack of your size choice and let it eat with 20kw as they 100% handle it.Also you are a big lad so lighten the bike up much as poss,no stand,silly pedals,lights ect.Also setting the throttle to a faster response can help give you a feeling off more torque.In short drop some weight build a pack and see its true potential because i bet you are not seeing half of what the motor can pull.BTW ill be building a high power pack in the next couple of weeks so may be worth a look.Cheers
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have the throttle settings at the highest possible amount but you're right my limitation is my battery at 150 amps. I'm 6' 2", 200lbs without gear. I have to keep the pedals though because my town is saturated with cops I literally pass two every time I take this thing out on the road to get to the woods and have been pulled over twice and the pedals got me out of it. But yeah trust me I hate the pedals, it's so hard to constantly switch sides when you're going fast on the tight twisty trails.
@marthamryglod291
2 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that. I built a 20s5p 80amp continuous BMS Samsung 40t for a 3,000 watt motor and the battery is barely trying. It's probably doing less than half of it's capacity at full throttle.
@williamconway995
3 жыл бұрын
I admire your dedication and enthusiasm 🙌
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!!!
@dszgarage357
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see that you love the 5T, I have to say it again your setup just looks so good!!!
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!!! Once I upgrade the battery this thing will be crazy, ha. Thinking about some Fox 40 forks as well.
@Ebackfive
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign could you do some big hills theres nothing really on this motor trying to do big hills
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@Ebackfive the 5T motor climbs up hills that are super steep and long with literally no problem at all from a dead stop. And not pavement, I'm talking about sandy hills. I actually took some video of me doing it the other day on a couple really big hills but I haven't made the video yet
@Nwmxenduro
2 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to me ordering a 5t but getting a 3.5t! These motors are a pain with figment but work so well. I had to replace the hall sensors in mine and have a video on this if you ever need it. Major brake fade on mine so I welded a motorcycle disc to a mtb 203mm rotor in order to add a mix rear caliper. Worked very well. Also be careful on using rocks as jumps. The 10g spokes are crappy and I had to upgrade to higher gauge and change the pattern. Half my spokes broke and dented my rim with one rock jump!
@JoshStreetDesign
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they're like butter metal
@djsoundzebikelife4314
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you received the correct motor this time and it worked for you 💪
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro!
@IsmonLaatu
3 жыл бұрын
I got the same 5T motor from NB Power. Im still building my bike, or more like missing battery. Your explanation tells me im sure i didn't go wront with the 5T!! Looking forward for your content.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Get the most powerful battery you can dude, don't skimp. Good luck!
@IsmonLaatu
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign Will do! Thanks!
@IsmonLaatu
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign Forgot to ask, did you add a spacer between the motor and disk brake? Doesn't your brake rub against the motor? Mine did, got a spacer now and it does not rub to the motor side anymore. We have different frames so maybe you don't even need one.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@IsmonLaatu yeah I have a spacer, it's like a 3 or 4 mil
@edgurash834
10 ай бұрын
I see you what front fender you used. What rear fender did you use and how did you attach to the rear swing arms?
@scottrocks1993
Жыл бұрын
I used to do these motorbike tyres when I was a young kid. Before I had any e-bikes The trick is don't put match air in the inner tube. Can use hot water but most of the time I don't. Number one rule don't scratch the rim. You can use a piece of rubber or tape. These are easy compared to tubeless moped tyres. For them all I do is use washing liquid to sail the gap
@fergyferg8837
3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! 1.16k subs!!?? You seem so polished on editing and presentation I figured you'd have a half a milly when I looked. 👀
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, would be nice dude. Sigh
@bradrobertson709
2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate cheers for the videos, appreciate how you show your mistakes glad to see it’s not just me 👍🇦🇺
@JoshStreetDesign
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone makes mistakes!
@fredcorp66
3 жыл бұрын
Tip for when tightening the brake calliper bolts down. Apply the brake at the bars so the calliper clamps onto the rotor, then tighten the bolts while the brake is applied. It will be perfectly aligned every time :)
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the advice... but you're like the 10th person that's commented on this and that I've had to reply back to that these are high-end Shimano brakes with floating pads and that method does not work. Lol. : ) It takes more precision. ESPECIALLY if your rotor is slightly bent.
@fredcorp66
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign Oh my bad, that defo wouldn't work then. Cheers for the good content
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@fredcorp66 thanks for watching and commenting dude!!
@josephburch2605
3 жыл бұрын
To center the caliper perfectly on the rotor with no scrubbing , simply apply the brakes by the levers while tightening the bolts (centering bolts) on the caliper. what this does is holds the caliper perfectly still and in place (considering the pads are positioned correctly in their seats) while you are tightening the caliper down. This has always worked for me on cable and hydro bike brakes
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Since these are high end floating shimano pads, that method isn't precise enough unfortunately. Closing the caliper doesn't guarantee it's where it should be. Wish it was that easy. LOL
@josephburch2605
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign I am currently using shimano XTR brakes. And if one pad is more worn you just shim the other side with business cards. Its always worked for me and I am super meticulous. All you have to do is try it next time. It is that easy..
@e-bikerbulgaria
3 жыл бұрын
5T way to go. 👍👍👍👍👍😎 Plough them trails bro.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
You know it dude!!!
@chrisdenault8660
3 жыл бұрын
The new style is a waterproof plug for the hall sensors always check the top middle one they usually forget to fill that , not sure how effective they are but good idea I always wrap my plugs up well anyways in an old innertube and zip them up, poor water protection = bikedeath/controller halls, nice bike, must be great off road for tread with those Dunlop , you want torque try ASI controller absolutely incredible
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that new waterproof style connector is the one I cut off to put the old one back on, lol. I probably should have done it the other way around, but I still can because the other secondary hall sensor still has the other style
@86BRETT86
3 жыл бұрын
a bit of lube on the bead will help with removing and replacing that tire. soapy water of even a tire shine like Meguiars Hotshine work wonders.
@BossManaatti
3 жыл бұрын
I must say you are making very interesting choices regarding upgrades :D Winding for a qs273 doesn't make any difference if you just add power. Which everyone should do because if you aren't pushing +15kw you aren't using the motor for it's potential at all. Everything around 12-14kw peak power users should use qs205 because of the weight simply. The fun thing about qs273 is that you can push so much power through it that it power wheelies still from 80km/h. So I personally think there is no reason to go with anything else than 3.5t winding.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Yo Boss!!! I kinda agree with that to a point. But this was a cheaper option for me right now. I am spending A LOT of money right now on all my upgrades on my Suzuki RMZ250, so I can't get the new battery and controller as of yet until I let my bank accounts replenish. I will say though, I miss that higher speed torque that the 3.5t has, but I LOVE the low end torque this 5t has. I can't ride this at high speeds on the road anyway, it would just get me in trouble with the police. haha! My town has a MILLION cops everywhere. I still have the 3.5t sitting in the garage, but the rim is bent like crazy from hitting all the big logs at speed, LOL
@gkitch6755
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign 3.5t all the way get feed up waiting for mates with higher windings. Just give it more amps.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@gkitch6755 to match the acceleration of the 5t you'd have to give it A LOT more amps, which cost A LOT.
@gkitch6755
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign yes mate im running 3.5t 150amp 134.4v it's the nuts I understand all and have had many set ups lol keep up the good videos
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@gkitch6755 what controller/battery set up?
@thedon22z
3 жыл бұрын
Nice bro i am going for speed and power myself.. Currently preparing for a bac8000 upgrade myself. Keep me updated and nice bike bro.👍🏽
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
thanks dude. how much you gonna spend on that BAC?
@thedon22z
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign Hey bro my whole kit (including battery/screen/mount/exact) is about 3200$. It’s coming from Europe. Just finished all the measurements for my dealer. Going to have a 48ah pack based Samsung 30q cells (peak at 320 amps). I went with a better range pack vs more power. Will let you know how everything turned out. It’s a upgrade on my 8k enduro bike from a standard sabavaton 72150 (with 72/40ah 100amp pack).
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@thedon22z awesome dude I can't wait to see a video when you get it going. What I asked though is how much are you spending on the BAC???
@thedon22z
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign oh the bac is about 800. Here is a link to my vendor: endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=105671
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@thedon22z I'm gonna send them a message.
@wyseer001
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid, J! Seeing the bike in that outdoor shot...that black on black looks f#cking saweet.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Yoooo thanks brother, appreciate the love!!!
@scottrocks1993
Жыл бұрын
The wheel axle When you tighten it down it will twist to the side. So it's not straight anymore. If you had some custom axle tension. So axle is solid It wouldn't twist to the side.
@JohnHowerton137
3 жыл бұрын
Tire looks like the same profile as the CST Surge I put on my ebike. 100/90-18. I consider myself a tire changing expert, in that I can do most start to finish in under 10min on the floor, but that tire was a bitch! Sidewall was so low and hard (int terrain). Zero room for the tube to even fit in. I bought a smallest thinnest one the shop had. Even considered doing tubliss but I don't think it would have went in. Didn't know the 990 was being made again! I ran them in the 90's. The 773 that replaced it was a better tire. Total badass mud tire, but the 756 was the best all around ST. Hopefully the reinforcements they added to it (like the 752 that they brought back) work, because they used to throw knobs... even on 125s. The side knobs on the front practically all came off. Cold rubber, tall small knobs, rip, rip!
@michaelnotgivingyoumylastn3231
3 жыл бұрын
those hall connectors are removable, you can pull that inside red or yellow plate out, inside the connector, then the pins fall out.. you can run your wires then put pins back in place. most of those default connectors are that way. that rubbing at the end of spinning the wheel is just cogging in the motor, all high torque/ high power motors do that, it has nothing to do with torqueing it down. it happens because the strong magnets grab the laminations as it rotates. perfectly normal.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input and watching!
@whatcha7354
3 жыл бұрын
Secure break leaver with cable tie to lock the caliper to the disc then very gently tighten caliper bolts this will help with centralising pads on disc once cable tie removed.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Floating disc pads, doesn't work.
@perryholmes8652
3 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your video. Freakin awesome! Keep putting out great informative content. Just subscribed.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brotha! About to shoot a new one here on upgrading forks just waiting for a part to come in the mail been waiting for over a month.
@dmlmedia7382
3 жыл бұрын
thats cool how you ran double shocks in the back
@scottdmartin
3 жыл бұрын
8:45 Merry Christmas to you too. 🤘🏼🎅🏼
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, thanks man!
@FarmerFpv
3 жыл бұрын
Yo, I didn't know Pauly Shore was into e-bikes? LOL nice ride dude. You got that thing set up nice. Subscribed & liked.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha. ToooTtaaatlllyyy Paaaauuullllyyyy
@CIMO13
Жыл бұрын
I did 4 tubes in one day, feel your pain dude.
@JoshStreetDesign
Жыл бұрын
I've gotten really good at it lately. Just changed 3 wheels last week.
@CIMO13
Жыл бұрын
@Josh Street Design Good fun isn't it.
@livelrge1
2 жыл бұрын
Very powerful motor can I ask how much it cost. I'm in the process of building my own electric bike and I'm looking for a good strong motor. Thanks
@JoshStreetDesign
2 жыл бұрын
It was like $600 when I bought it but I don't know what the price is now as that was a couple years ago
@livelrge1
2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign Thanks
@clemonsjoey
3 жыл бұрын
Love the build and content. I have the #HellbirdBanditBike , it’s a similar frame(Electric Enduro)with 134v lipo battery, 100a Bluetooth controller with the QS205, it’s a beast on the streets here in Los Angeles.
@dogdipstick
3 жыл бұрын
If you have trouble with rim/tight tires splash a little ATF on it and let it sit a few hours... the rubber gets soft and pliable ( extreme case scenario). My Qs 205 35H, 6T in a 24", isnt the fastest bike... but... has got some whoomp, let me tell ya.. and you got 4x the motor at least! Lol .
@sleepingbearffg5008
Жыл бұрын
Can you explain all the numbers? Great video 💪💪
@kelvinks8018
3 жыл бұрын
Nice bike, omg I've been there myself so annoying. Wasted so many inner tubes. The best foolproof way I have found is to: 1: Lightly pump up the inner tube 2: Insect it inside the tyre before mounting 3: zip tie the tyre with the valve stem sticking out of the tyre 4: Insect the valve stem into wheel and work your way around. Job done, everytime.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Funny, that's exactly what I did, ha ha. Just kept catching that tube. Practice makes perfect.
@kelvinks8018
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesignLol ok I really can't see how though. Is that what you ended up doing? Because in the video you were doing one side at a time. The method I mentioned you do both sides at the same time,
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@kelvinks8018 oh wait you're saying do the zip tie method where you zip tie it all the way around? Oh man dude I tried that before and I could not get a tire on with that method to save my life, the tire was just too stiff and too tight.
@kelvinks8018
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign
@brennenrushworth2655
3 жыл бұрын
Hey man I love your videos I had some similar struggles when I build my ebike in the summer. Suck a nice bike you built man!!! I liked and subscribed right away. I'm having trouble with my regen breaking, do you have regen breaking on your bike?
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!!! I don't use the regen but I do use the electronic breaking, without it my brakes just aren't sufficient.
@raulmarquez7117
3 жыл бұрын
Bro loved the governator skit u did that was perfect and spot on .had me rollin laughing , and plus like 👍
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
thanks bro, haha
@sn0wchyld
3 жыл бұрын
vibration you feel when the wheel comes to a stop could just be cogging torque (normal for PM motors) and if so its always there just there's some harmonics at that low rpm that makes it more noticeable... if you dont feel it through the frame when the wheel nuts are loose, try feeling if the motor axle itself still vibrates as it comes to a stop - if so then its almost certainly the cogging torque (as opposed to the bearings being under too much axial pressure or something more serious) PS could have bought a controller that'd put out more phase amps and achieve the same torque from the 3.5T without the drop-off at higher speeds...
@gkitch6755
3 жыл бұрын
Top video good descriptions but everyone's set ups are different my main problem with 3.5t myself is stopping it spinning lol and that's with 4" tyre and tyre lock to stop it spinning on rim from to much torque. Power
@T2daBikeGuy
6 ай бұрын
Great vid Great info.
@stuwest5862
3 жыл бұрын
The cogging is from the magnets and their gaps between each other passing the poles.
@AH-007-75
3 жыл бұрын
You got there maaan. Holy cannoli, the bike looks like it digs in more now, easily. Some work there, good tutorial on a few things to watch out for with the inner tube thing. I have two tyres to change up still. I think the 4t would be the best balance for me if I invest in a new wheel ever. Great video, bike looks spot on too ⚡️👍🏴💪
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Yo ant!!!! Thanks as always bro. yes you're going to have a mix of road and off-road I think the 4T would be the great option for you. You get a little bit of both worlds there. I hope you're healing up okay
@AH-007-75
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign Merry Christmas Josh to you and yours. Healing well thanks brother I think these bikes we have need some more battery power, all the motors and controller amps won’t do anything unless that power is there to work from. Trade in battery for better I think we’d get a lot more out of them Peace out
@stormsy4078
3 жыл бұрын
Great build man. Do you know if that's the 170 drop off version or 150, I'm buying the same hub but mines the 170 drop off be helpful If I know it will.fit . Any help thanks.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah 170, the 273 has the wider dropouts with the bigger 12mm axle flats
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
The QS205 motor wouldn't fit in this frame
@stormsy4078
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate much appreciated
@Black86Panther
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh, let's assume you would tune your 5t motor using field weaking, it should be more precise or faster than your 3.5t motor. I just think that this eats up the battery. Maybe you could try this function of the Sabvoton. Many greetings from Germany, keep it up. I think your videos are great.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately no it doesn't work like that field weakening will only gain you like five to seven miles per hour max above the top without it... Think about it you can even do the same thing with the 3.5t which I did. But there's a difference once you hit 35 mph with the 5T it slowly then creeps up to 42 to 45 tops, whereas with the 3.5t it pulls hard all the way up to about 48 mph then creeps up to 55 to 60
@dawso2o2
3 жыл бұрын
It because the wires run through one side from the centre putting the wheel out of balance and this is why it runs the way when torqued down my 8000w cs20 doses the same but is a lot worse than yours, Happy new year from my family to yours from Newcastle Australia
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the comment Wayne! But does that jive with the fact that it doesn't do this when the nuts are loose?
@jimhofoss9982
2 жыл бұрын
the resistance you feel as the wheel spins down is known as cogging….magnetic resistance is normal for any direct drive hub motor. cheers.
@hobsonmx7341
3 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Thing's killer. Why haven't you considered using a full twist throttle like the domino E-throttle? Also, your bars look skinny as apposed to wide, but that's could just be an illusion due to the bike being wide...
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Hate full twist throttle, the half twist throttle allows me to not whiskey throttle. I hate the full throttle on my rmz250, throws me into trees all the time, hahaha. My bars are def wide. they were 810mm, and I cut off about an inch from either side. If you have ever ridden super tight single track and bounced off trees all day at high speed, you;ll understand that you don't want your bars to be too wide. On a dirtbike I don't' even want my pegs to be too wide as my foot has been crushed quite a few times between the pegs and the trees.
@perryholmes8652
3 жыл бұрын
Also, I'd like to see how that new controller works with the new motor.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
I ended up sticking with the old controller because my battery is my limiting factor until I get up higher powered battery the newer controller won't make any difference as the BMS limits it to 150 amps. I put myself on the waiting list couple months ago for a nuclear 24f controller but that'll probably take forever. Maybe by December haha
@2nmingo
3 жыл бұрын
pro tip: use soppy water around the tire when putting it on
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've done that before on dirt bikes but I find that I get better results with WD-40 mainly because it was less messy, ha ha
@graydenhasty8628
4 ай бұрын
Awesome video! What throttle do you use ?
@jonezdatonetech2758
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh Nice video, how did you mount the controller inside the frame after you cut the lips off ? And do it get hot inside frame with battery and controller together ?
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
there are two rails up at the top on the inside that you can run zip ties through so you just zip tie it to the top of the frame. As far as getting hot no not really only once did I notice it was hot on like 100° day where I ran it hard
@jonezdatonetech2758
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh
@fredcorp66
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, could you tell me what kickstand you're using? I had the stock Chinese one snap on me the other day
@healthye-rider8651
3 жыл бұрын
Same! I was like what the hell?!?!
@NoOne-uy1pp
3 жыл бұрын
Good video
@shaner.5
2 жыл бұрын
squeeze the brake handle while holding tightin babamn! easy peezy.
@JoshStreetDesign
2 жыл бұрын
Nope that doesn't work. Check out my latest video where I show exactly why
@fups8222
3 жыл бұрын
another great video 👍👍
@swarbrickjesse
11 ай бұрын
im looking to do this QS273 on my Ride1Up Revv1. This bike would be more of a street bike, would you recommend the 5T or the 3T? I also heard you mentioned NY, I am in the northern NJ area. I would love to have somebody local who could help me during the process. EDIT: Just got to that part, looks like 3.5 T is for me!
@guysmiley4872
3 жыл бұрын
Bro your setup is epic, I’m starting my build just now and I’m down under in Brisbane Australia, my biggest dilemma is should I go 3.5T, 4T or 5T… absolutely love your video’s man, keep up the amazing work
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Depends on what type of riding your gonna do, if mostly on street, def get the 3.5
@guysmiley4872
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign legend! Thanks man, yeah probably 50/50 tbh… I love my bush tracks but I’ll be smashing the streets as well… I guess that’s why I was keen on the 4T…. Btw I think you’re KZitem channel should blow up, this is the future
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@guysmiley4872 thanks dude I really appreciate that I totally need to start making more videos I've gotten off the video training lately. Awesome I've just been enjoying riding Non-Stop lol. So then yeah maybe just go for the 4t have partial of both worlds
@guysmiley4872
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign honestly man, you have got the right formula to blow up, you keep it real, informative and fun, with great beats and amazing video footage … I look forward to your next videos… keepin the grind real 👌 even crocodile Dundee would enjoy your vid’s haha
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@guysmiley4872 ha ha ha, maybe I'll make one today then!
@frosty5100
2 жыл бұрын
That's a cool bike
@tobebike
3 жыл бұрын
Super cool
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks brotha
@tobebike
3 жыл бұрын
That thing rips . Wait till it the warmer weather . Oh yeah!!
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@tobebike heck yeah man!!!
@michaelbuteau4183
2 жыл бұрын
I seen you were having a hard time with your brakes there is an easy way while your Allen screws are loose squeeze your brake lever fairly tight tighten up your screws all the way or at least as tight as you want them let go of the brake lever and they will be set perfect
@maeso34
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the videos. I am still doubting on my project. I have a 85 C. C. Mx chassis and a trial bike chassis. I want to build a bike that climbs everything for a low speed sort of trial style excursion riding. So, always loved the hub motors from my electric bicycles but not sure if using this 5t motor filling the petrol motor space with batteries or using a mid drive motor of 5 kW having to build a little transmission to reduce speed and up the torque, having also lees battery space above the mid motor. As you see, chaos in my head. Any input is appreciated and thanks again for sharing.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Fire that route of bike, you will def need the mid drive with the transmission option if you can do it. Trials is all about that propper gearing. The build probably wouldn't go over 30 to 40 mph though just keep that in mind. also the trial likes you usually going slower so you're not using as much battery power.
@sigmaoctantis_nz
3 жыл бұрын
Nice bike you have there. I was wanting to do something like this myself, eventually with a couple of sets of wheels. You could have a 5t with a dirt tyre and then a 3t with a road tyre for better rolling resistance and just switch between them depending on where you want to ride. Is that a custom seat? It looks a lot better than the regular moto seat for those frames.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
The seat is from CAB motorworks, they used to sell it but they don't anymore.
@1GreatLake
Жыл бұрын
Yooo what mudflap is that?! Looks so good on the seat
@JoshStreetDesign
Жыл бұрын
The sur ron extended fender
@1GreatLake
Жыл бұрын
@Josh Street Design awesome man thanks
@JeffreyMaster
3 ай бұрын
Hi there. Great video. Could you tell me the mic you are using? Thank you, Jeffrey
No chain is the only reason I would choose a hub.. but then again I really enjoy my SurRon!
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I hear you it's just that these places I ride I have to have the pedals to keep the cops off my back, and to be 100% silent in the woods... otherwise I would have had my bike taken already. Ha ha
@scottdmartin
3 жыл бұрын
My buddy has the belt drive on his surron it makes it pretty quiet I would like to see a different belt drive config like a bigger diameter rear belt hub
@mre741
3 жыл бұрын
@@scottdmartin my surron has a 52t CDX kit
@ericzeiszler3539
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh love your vides such good intel . Love the Arnold impression you are hilarious LOL ! Anyways I recently purchased a 273 5T motor, thanks from your persuasion and if you could please let me know what your spoke length on the rear rim on your bike ? That would help me out so much . 8 inch
@JoshStreetDesign
2 жыл бұрын
thanks man, i appreciate it. I'll measure the spokes when I get a chance, if a week goes by and I haven't responded be sure to remind me.
@saifsaif5218
3 жыл бұрын
Loosn up the caliper bolts then hit the brake lever & tighten bolts. Caliper should align itself
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
That was the first thing I tried doesn't work haha
@RollingInBoost
3 жыл бұрын
Thats some really high quality footage. What camera do you use?
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
The Sony A7Riv. I was using a crappy lens though. Ha ha
@bruizzr
3 жыл бұрын
So the display you have accurately indicates your battery remaining status? Also which display did you recommend? I have a 72200 Sabvoton Controller...
@nilobertini9402
3 жыл бұрын
Im from jersey too u gave ne some good advice
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Where at bro?
@lesnypatrol7292
2 жыл бұрын
There are rumors about increase triple capacity of current batteries within 2-3 Years , can you guys imagine 100V 100Ah battery packet in our monster ebikes ?
@JoshStreetDesign
2 жыл бұрын
False rumors
@lesnypatrol7292
2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign Sad to hear that
@Zomby_Woof
3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever hauled a trailer with either motor, or weighed it down a y other way? I'm considering putting a bike together using a 273 with high amp controller and battery. Commuting and on site IT work. I usually drop ship equipment, but I'll still need a trailer for haul-away and emergency swap outs. The 273 is good up to at least 12kw, so that will help, and I'll be on surface streets to avoid traffic anyway, but I'm wondering with the extra rolling resist and mass if a 5T might make me happier.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
I use a motorcycle carrier on the back of my SUV to transport either this or my dirt bike
@Zomby_Woof
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign Not thr kind of trailer I meant. A trailer behinf the bike - not carrying it.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@Zomby_Woof ohhh, sorry. Then no, ha ha
@bobpatty2937
3 жыл бұрын
Squeeze your brake caliper with the screws loose then carefully tighten them and your caliper will automatically be centered straight over the rotor. You can play with one all day and not get it correctly positioned. If the rotor moves when you engage the brake you’re not finished.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that these are floating brake pads so that really doesn't work
@kolbeck69
3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Josh . It looks to me your rear brake level is on you right? Same as throttle ,? If u wheelie all the way it will be hard to use brake , maybe dangerous. Great video buddy
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the comment buddy but I'm not sure what you mean by is the rear brake on me?
@redeyespyone
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign 🤣😅😂😆 I'm sure he meant "on YOUR right"
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@redeyespyone ohhhhhh, yeah ha ha ha. Yeah that was a mistake mounting the rear in the right. Should have done it like on my dirt bike because it's constant confusion when I go back and forth.
@redeyespyone
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign Dope video, btw.💯
@kolbeck69
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign your throttle is on the right side . If you wheelie,you would like to be able to brake the back rear wheel fast or u could tip over , so if your rear brake was on your left hand ,you will be able to brake faster and easier than on the same side as throttle
@chrisdenault8660
3 жыл бұрын
Try baby power for the tube next time works like a charm
@lukasalexander3598
Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the 5t for heavy load road builds or would you prefer the 3.5t?
@hkshks3979
3 жыл бұрын
excellent video - did the 72200 add a lot of performance on the 3.5t?
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
It was no more noticeable for me than the 150 amp would be because that's what my battery is limited to so it wasn't really a fair test considering the battery limitation.
@davidb.4342
3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Why do a DIY bike build instead of buying a Sur Ron or Segway? I’ve seen in other post that you estimate having $6-$7k in your current build, which from what I’ve read is more than the Segway option. Would you get more torque from a center drive or a hub drive? I’m obviously new to this but super interested in what an electric bike with “pedals” like yours would let me explore closer to home!
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
A few reasons first of which when I started this sur ronss werent readily available and were really expensive. Secondly my town has a million cops in it you see one everywhere you go so I wanted something that had pedals and sure enough it keeps them off my back cuz I had them look at me and pass me so many times on my way to the woods. Thirdly I really like how quiet The hub motor is and how much less maintenance it is. However if you ask me now if I had to go back and do it all over again at that point yeah I probably would have done a surround build and maxed it out at like 72 volts with an upgraded battery and all that stuff. But after it's all said and done when you think about it these bikes are so small I'm used to my KTM which is like twice as big I'm a big guy at 6'2 and I would really want to do a full on dirt bike conversion.
@juice9767
9 ай бұрын
What size rear tire is that your using in this video? Whole setup looks Great. Im thinking of going with a 110/100-18 setup
@JoshStreetDesign
9 ай бұрын
Nooo, that's to big. This is a 90/100-18
@juice9767
9 ай бұрын
@JoshStreetDesign lol I love a Fat tire, I've got a custom frame & swingarm being made that will occomadate it. All my ebikes here have 26"× 4" tires, one has a 26x4.9" tire, so this next build I'll be using a 18" setup with the motorcycle 110/100- 18 So I can blast some ruts in the trails also lol
@@juice9767 Yeah but you don't understand, unless you're riding an Alta these e-bikes don't have anywhere near enough power to sufficiently push a 110 118 tire. Have you ever actually seen one? Do you ride dirt bikes? That size tire is big and super heavy and will suck your battery power down way faster. Look how big that tire is on that bike I have is perfectly fine for an e-bike.
@juice9767
9 ай бұрын
@JoshStreetDesign I definitely understand & know the performance will be smothered somewhat, but I'm building a Beast that will be well over 30,000 watts, so the setup shouldn't have much of a issue.. And I'm usually done having fun riding in less than a couple hours just in some local trails. Just for after work fun whenever I can get a chance. And I definitely was a big fan of the Alta, it hurt my heart that they went bankrupt I believe. But I'm 56yrs old now, and trying to relive my old 1985 kx80 days lol
@Temmple
9 ай бұрын
Trying to come up with a motor option for my riding type 50/50 off road/on road. Thinking a 8K but not sure on the 3.5t, 4 or 5. Any input would be great.
@JoshStreetDesign
9 ай бұрын
Go in the middle with a 4
@josephgoostree5776
2 жыл бұрын
Did you build your bike from scratch? I'd like to know where to get the frame...
@JoshStreetDesign
2 жыл бұрын
yes I did. You can get the frame off Alibaba, or even ebay probably. It's the version 2 of the bomber frame.
@cryptofox3570
3 жыл бұрын
Are you running the second battery through the BMS also ? Why don't you try a BMS bypass
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
The second battery has its own bms
@cryptofox3570
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign I'm same with my bike loads of torque, I have a 5t and it's top speed is 45 mph. Looking for best way to add power using what I have. I'm running 72150 and seem to be getting same speed as you. Starting to think the motor rpm limit on the 5t is at the max and the only thing possible to gain is a more responsive throttle and longevity. Keen to see where you go from here. Bac4000 looks fun.
@BrigiMiller
2 ай бұрын
And you need to pinch the tire to the center of the rim on opposite side when installing a tire..
@gregoryroth546
3 жыл бұрын
Great Video, Just bought a similar bike 12k with a 72v 49ah battery. I haven't received it yet but getting very excited. Already looking for upgrades. Any suggestions i would appreciate it. Bluetooth controller 150a .
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
I upgraded like everything possible. Look in the description for the list of parts
@59clint
3 жыл бұрын
I am French I also bought same bike at ali baba on September 21 not yet received
@PooleBayPressureWashing
3 жыл бұрын
Great video!, where did you get the moto seat or how did you make it?
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
CAB Motorworks website. It's expensive but so worth it.
@PooleBayPressureWashing
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign cheers, all the stock ones go up way to much
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@PooleBayPressureWashing exactly. This one is super comfortable
@edgurash834
11 ай бұрын
Did you have to drill new holes with the saddleman seat?
@JoshStreetDesign
11 ай бұрын
Yup, sure did
@banneduser978
Жыл бұрын
5T will be slower than 3.5T motor I have a question my friend I purchased an 8000w bike from ali baba the supplier told me that the staff were giving you a free upgrade 2.5T motor which is the configuration for a 12.000w bike he told me that they use the 3.5T motor for the 8000W but they didn't have the colored rims option which I had picked on a 3.5T motor he also said that many of their customers prefer 2.5T over 3.5T motor as it is faster just the winding is different. I did some research and found out that the 2.5T will produce less toque at high rpm but higher top speed I hope he's not B.S**** me do you think this motor will have issues with a 8000w configuration
@JoshStreetDesign
Жыл бұрын
2.5t will have a higher top speed but will have slower acceleration. Use NBPower, ask for Raina. tell her I referred you. She will take care of you.
@banneduser978
Жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign I already purchased the bike it's being shipped I'll contact Raina for future purchases I appreciate your help, now back to the original question is the 2.5T an upgrade or did the factory just push this on me simply cause the 3.5T doesn't come with the colored rims options which one do you think is more suitable for an 8000w battery I'm asking for your personal opinion.
@banneduser978
Жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign Is their any advantages or disadvantages with the 2.5T will it effect my battery life?
@JoshStreetDesign
Жыл бұрын
@@banneduser978 No it will not affect your battery life but personally I wouldn't want less acceleration.
@banneduser978
Жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign I wanted the 3.5T but the supplier didn't leave me a choice so the only thing it'll effect is the torque your saying what if I get a 12.000w battery will that solve this issue
@my1stvmax
3 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in the red bike stand you have. Can you give me a link to it?
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
It's a piece of crap. Go to a Harbor Freight and get theirs for $35, it's better.
@actorlany89
3 жыл бұрын
Man why aren't you my next door neighbor. E skateboards ebikes 80s references. Lol. my brotha from another motha. Think ill pay a bike shop to install the tires lol. Cool vids. I love these bikes but i think ill stick with the already built alibaba bikes. I've bought and sold about ten bikes off of alibaba so far. Kudos to you to tackling this. I would have stopped at the second tube break though yikes.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha, yeah man. We like to have fun. The next time I have to change a tire there's no way I'm going to put a hole in the tube, it takes practice and mistakes to get good at things you know what I mean. although I just got new custom wheels built for my dirt bike and I took him to a shop because there's no way in heck I'm scratching those thousand dollar expensive rims, lol. So are you making a profit off those Alibaba bikes? I was looking at Alibaba last night and it seems they've got some new stuff out now which looks pretty intriguing. Completely new designs.
@actorlany89
3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesignim sure you've seen this one. Looks like a knock off of the new sur ron storm Looks pretty sick. Heavy bike. Has a clutch apparently as well. Not sure how that works but the price seems pretty good considering. m.alibaba.com/product/1600155476542/Electric-12KW-60V-Electric-Dirt-Bike.html?__sceneInfo=%7B%22cacheTime%22%3A%221800000%22%2C%22type%22%3A%22appDetailShare%22%7D
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
@@actorlany89 yeah I literally was actually debating on if I should pull the trigger on one of those last night just to try it out but the more I look at it it kind of seems pretty small it only has a 33-in seat height. the guy riding it in the videos is a little Asian guy and he even he looks big on it but I'm 6'2 200 lb...dunno... Looks like it's a good deal more sturdy then sur ron though.
@trancemuter
2 жыл бұрын
I really want to build one like this, but more for road speed… what can you do to maximize speed as much as possible and how high can it reach? 75 mph is possible?
@JoshStreetDesign
2 жыл бұрын
Sure, get a 3t motor, a good battery and a Bac 8000 and youll get close. Gonna cost ya though
@adrian.zyskowski2145
3 жыл бұрын
Your problem with the speed is in controller just check that you input right numbers in magnets and poles Had same problem
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the comment but the speed I'm getting is the same exact top speed as every other person who I know who has this motor. over six other guys have the same setup, battery power and such. I've messed with all of the throttle voltages at length and it's never made any difference
@dylandesmond
2 жыл бұрын
Running 273 40h 4t and 168v at the moment.... khb14601 600amp 7t on a khb14601 and 168v with torque throttle would be great.... High voltage is key for more torque, just gotta get the correct winding Those who say changjng amps or winding is changing torque only have half the equation. 84v 800amps 4t and 168 400amps 8t should be the same right ??? The 8t will run cooler and output more torque This is why I say a khb14601 and 7t 273 40h, it'll put all 84v controllers to shame including the bac8000 and khb84101
@ItsNotShakespeare
2 жыл бұрын
What hub motor you use?
@ItsNotShakespeare
2 жыл бұрын
What top speed would I get from qs273 5t , 134v at 200a?
@mre741
3 жыл бұрын
Zaap Zaap!!
@tonymckee148
3 жыл бұрын
what if my motor has 191215 space then 901137 ..what is the size of my motor ...my bike can go up tp 68 mph but i only pushed it to 62 mph and it wasnt a full charge when i tested that speed out... i got a 72v 48ah 12,000 watt
@jestronixhanderson9898
3 жыл бұрын
I went around 140v on my 5T, hauls ass right up to 50.
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
What controller are you using?
@jestronixhanderson9898
3 жыл бұрын
Off the top of my head I forget, it was off a member on endless sphere. It was a bloke modifying units from China with bigger fets and capacitors. I ran it maxed out for years couldn’t pop it. Was a pure sine unit, which was expensive back then. But the upgraded unit let me do from 75v to 150v I ran 160v no problem , but voltages were getting unsafe so jumped back to 100 , not as fun but safer.
@seantyrrell5720
3 жыл бұрын
Hi mate recon you can help me out with my set up? Ive got the same frame as you just wandering what brake mounts you use? Also what pedal and crank system? Cheers pal links would be great 👌👍
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
Check some of my other videos, complete parts list in description.
@markalan8517
2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently planning out my build not sure on what swing arm I want. What ever one u have is the one I want is it the 170mm or the 155mm
@JoshStreetDesign
2 жыл бұрын
You need the 170 for the 273 motor
@markalan8517
2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshStreetDesign Thanks brother
@jonezdatonetech2758
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, josh Did you really pay $800 for the seat you have ? Because I need it, but I’m not paying $800 for sure...
@JoshStreetDesign
3 жыл бұрын
No I paid $450 for it. I'd have to be honest though if they are still selling it now for $800 and I was building another bike I would still pay $800 for it because it's the best e-bike seat you could possibly buy. Super high quality and majorly comfortable.
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