Very interesting Sam. 2-6-2 Steamers had common wide spread usage in Germany as well. The major trouble of their arrangement is the symmetrical wheel layout; the centre of gravity almost sits over the centre driving wheels. The rods, working close to centre of gravity, induce severe side-to-side rocking and front-to-back (nosing) resulting in extreme instability. A longer wheelbase and/or leading and trailing wheels can reduce the problem somewhat but never really solve it. As far as we understand it, 2-6-2 engines were popular in the US and Germany though. Great upload again Sam. We can't actually run at 4K but the picture is much more crisp than ever.
@survivingworldsteam
Жыл бұрын
It is my understanding they also rocked from front to back on the center driver; making them unstable from front to back as well.
@lindaoffenbach
Жыл бұрын
@@survivingworldsteam The rocking front-to-back was called 'nosing' I believe. Yes very true; have added that bit.
@jugbywellington1134
Жыл бұрын
I've always liked the German BR 64s. I notice the wheels on them are much closer together than the GWR 2-6-2Ts (such as the one in the video). I've often wondered why. Perhaps the GWR did it for the reasons you say.
@realcanadian67
Жыл бұрын
If you have the connecting rod aligned onto the third driver, this negates that problem.
@ACL_modeler
Жыл бұрын
they weren’t really popular in the us
@zepheris_
Жыл бұрын
I Love my Dapol GWR Large Prairie. Can't wait for the Rapido GWR Small Prairie.
@johnrugman52
Жыл бұрын
Remember the liner v1 tank, still available pre owned. Bachmann split chassis quite sturdy but runs well
@NWRJ_WStudios
Жыл бұрын
4:07 it's been awhile since we've seen this locomotive. Glad to see it's still working Cheers Jasper & Willow
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
haha yeah me too, begrudgingly ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@richardhiggins6471
Жыл бұрын
Haven't you forgotten your Bachmann V1/3? I think you gave it a bit of a mixed review a year ago. Mine runs superbly but it has the early 1990s body.
@derf9465
Жыл бұрын
Always loved the jinty class
@donsharpe5786
Жыл бұрын
There were LNER 2-6-2 tanks but I think the Bachmann was very old. The Ivatt 2-6-2 tank was used extensively on the Southern region. It was upgraded with standard fittings such as clack valves instead of top feed and the front fall plate fitted and classed as the BR 2MT 2-6-2 tank. The reason why the LMS didn't use the 2-6-2T arrangement much was because they already had a highly successful 2-6-4 tank starting with the Fowler., then Stanier 2 & 3 cylinder and finally the Fairbairn on which the BR standard was based. It meant that they could carry more coal in a larger bunker. They had an unsuccessful 2-6-2T in the Fowler and an even worse design by Stanier class 3 and totally improved upon by Ivatt's version.
@thecpmr6276
Жыл бұрын
Dude, Prairies ARE rare. I wanted a character I had (I write cringe audio stories about talking choo choo's) to be a prairie. So, I did a bunch of research to try and figure out what I should base the engine on. There's is stunningly little about prairies. Railroading is like that though. In my experience, you have to dig pretty deep to find any worthwhile info. Anyway, keep up the good work!
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
I know!! I remember looking up US prairies and finding very little too! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@thecpmr6276
Жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains God bless you Sam. You've responded to every single one of my comments. Not generically either. Your responses all have to do with my original comments. Not a lot of KZitemrs can claim to interact with their community so thoroughly and respectfully. Keep it up dude. You're one of the good ones.
@davidmolin8944
Жыл бұрын
I’ve always found the prairie class very interesting considering I own a old o gauge prairie from Lionel which runs very well
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Oh wow I bet that's impressive - thanks for sharing! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@mytinplaterailway
Жыл бұрын
I have to say, your new camera really does make a difference with the close ups.
@thatlittlefox.
Жыл бұрын
Samstrains: Now My videos are in 4k. My phone: 1440p, no More!
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
haha sorry to hear that - my phone won't go above 1080p so I feel you... hopefully you'll get some improvement! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@zevroboy131
Жыл бұрын
The SAR double prairie would be nice to see in model form
@17puttab
Жыл бұрын
I think of all the Prairies that you showed in this video, I'm very intrigued by the LNER V2.
@thomasvanlamsweerde1799
Жыл бұрын
The French railways (Est) made a small number of 131tb prairie locomotives. Seemingly not that popular. But was made in model form by Hornby Acho and Triang r653 continental loco. Looks like the 141 (2-8-2) configuration ended up more popular across most of the railways pre SNCF. I'm guessing there must have been some unfavourable characteristics for it not to be more numerous in real life.
@pendremacherald6758
Жыл бұрын
The Prarie is still relatively rare in America. Not many were preserved. In terms of more commonly used non-articulated wheel arrangements, its towards the bottom of numbers in US preservation.
@SearleD01
Жыл бұрын
I always thought the V2 was one of LNER's best looking locos with its symmetrical wheel arrangement
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
I agree - it's gorgeous isn't it?? :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@paulcaswell2813
4 ай бұрын
Forget the Pacifics - the V2s WERE his masterpiece. Phenomenal engines, holding the British record for hauling a passenger train: 26 carriages full of fully-kitted troops during the war. If a model could 'only' haul 26 carriages a certain somebody here would't be impressed. Weird.
@briandesens144
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Sam's trains
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian! :D
@briandesens144
Жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains you're welcome my dear friend
@sebastianmarconi2855
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the original Bachmann 0-6-0 is based off of the USRA standard design 0-6-0 Switcher locomotives that were very generic and common on many U.S railroads. The reason Bachmann made this loco was simply to make a "new product" for cheap and with using very little additional parts. While they theoretically could be kit bashed to resemble actual U.S Prairie types, they aren't based off of anything. This must be confusing to people overseas! But to be fair, some Prairies that existed aren't too far off from the Bachmann model in size or scale...
@intel904
Жыл бұрын
It gets a lot worse when you realize that the USA Prairie is just their USRA 0-6-0 with a set of trucks on the front and back.
@marklincovet509
6 ай бұрын
I really like the ivatt 3mt, plus you forgot the lner v1/v3
@NationalGuard5
Жыл бұрын
Still wish Britain had done a one off experiment 4-8-4 loco.
@NWRJ_WStudios
Жыл бұрын
Someone should make a 2-6-0 inside cylinder loco, I'll love to see that. Cheers Jasper & Willow
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
I agree, that'd be super cool! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@robertwilloughby8050
Жыл бұрын
That would be a GWR Aberdare class, wouldn't it? Lovely engines.
@NWRJ_WStudios
Жыл бұрын
@@robertwilloughby8050 same here
@garrymartin6474
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Bachmann made the LNER V1 or maybe V3 rairie tank ( Edit: they did both after checking 👀) . Its a shame nobody makes a model of the Gresley V4 which was another tender engine , which although only a small class it had a interesting history. Get your printer out Sam !
@svsmodelling2857
Жыл бұрын
Great video Sam! Really enjoy it in 4K. Have a great rest of your week. -Oliver
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Oliver, glad you like the 4K res - have a great week! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@timbervalleyproductions
Жыл бұрын
Prairies are cool. Great video. Would you please consider re-reviewing the Bachmann 4MT tander and Ivatt 4MTs please?
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
They sure are! And yeah I'll see about doing that one day, thanks for the suggestion, Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@timbervalleyproductions
Жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains :)
@edwardthebest101aylward
Жыл бұрын
This video was so cool to watch, the 4K makes a huge difference and I love it. very educational learning about all type of prairies out there. you should turn it into a series lol. (wheel configuration convocation with Sam) love the work Sam.
@philbartlett7898
Жыл бұрын
Have to disagree with you Sam over the Gresley V2 being the only successful tender design. Paul Pilkington mentions the V4 in the comments. The pair of V4s were apparently very successful in Scotland - so good in fact that the A1ST have decided to build a replica. One of the original pair was named Bantam Cock, the replica officially advised as being named "Highlander". I think the V4 is one of the most beautiful steam loco designs ever in the UK I am sure that a ready to run model will eventually be produced
@philipstokes2824
Жыл бұрын
I believe the other V4 was nicknamed "Bantham Hen!"
@odenviking
Жыл бұрын
in sweden sj had a 2-6-2 loco but in the tank loco version. those type of loco is rare in sweden due sj opted for larger tender locos. i can do a small check on that. 👍👍👍👍🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
@jancraft3539
Жыл бұрын
just combine the 2mt with the other one and u got a very good model
@TheSaint491
Жыл бұрын
Only other tender prairie from uk was the v4, gresleys last design, only 2 built
@danielgrey7109
Жыл бұрын
"It isn't wrong, but we just don't do it." - probably the designers' thoughts.
@MaxwellTheTrainFan
Жыл бұрын
Can you bring out all of your e2 locomotives for a video ? Hornby Thomas Bachman Thomas Hornby brown old E2 Hornby green new E2 There . And have you found the smoke box door for the old brown e2 locomotive because the last time we all saw it it had a Thomas face . Yes all I wanna see is all of your E2 locomotives and maybe try to 3D print your own E2 with your printer based on Hornby Thomas for the paint but with a smoke box door . (Realistic thomas) Yes all I want to see is your E2 locomotives again
@jasonanderson6583
Жыл бұрын
I suspect the next 3D print project will be a prairie.
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Good guess, not quite though ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@platformten5958
Жыл бұрын
Hi Sam. You concentrated on the 2-6-2 wheel arrangement but omitted to mention the smaller Bachmann 0-6-2 Prairie Tank. Any particular reason why? 🤔 Paul.
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, This video was all about Prairie locomotives - an 0-6-2 is not a prairie, and therefore doesn't pertain to this video! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@zepheris_
Жыл бұрын
0-6-2 is a Webb wheel arrangement
@platformten5958
Жыл бұрын
Sam. Well in that case, can you explain why Bachmann consider their 0-6-2 a Prairie. They surely know their 'onions', being a top model manufacturer. I own a Bachmann Class 6600 0-6-2 Prairie Tank and it is described as such on the box. I notice that an 0-6-2 under the 'Whyte' notation is known as a 'Webb' or 'Branchliner'. Maybe you should point out to Bachmann their faux pas. 👍 Paul.
@platformten5958
Жыл бұрын
Hi Zepheris. I was typing out my response to Sam's reply before receiving your comment, but thanks anyway for your confirmation of my info. Paul. 👌
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
It must be a mistake - Bachmann do know their stuff, but a prairie is a 2-6-2... full stop. The 6600 is *not* a prairie Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@animeboy9307
Жыл бұрын
Will you do Pannier Tank Engines running session? Especially Black 2721 class pulling GWR Genesis Coaches?
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
That would be awesome - sure!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@amansgrangard6208
Жыл бұрын
The V2 class name "Green arrowe" right ?
@ManOfUnknownWorth
Жыл бұрын
The Prairie configuration is probably my favorite, though the Texan and Santa Fe ones are pretty neat too.
@kencrouch1505
Жыл бұрын
I have this Lionel steam train that has 2 non driving wheels in the front and back
@williams5675
Жыл бұрын
just got a bachmann 56xx what is ur opinion on it sam
@lukejackson8741
Жыл бұрын
Love this new concept of looking at a wheel configuration, little bit of history, little bit of model review, it’s great and very informative Maybe a dumb suggestion but can you theoretically just replace the pope body on the Ivatt seems a waste of a good cassis and mechanism
@benforster6254
Жыл бұрын
Great video but what about the v3
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
That's true - I did miss that one! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@ElijahBradley08
Жыл бұрын
Do you plan on ever making a proper layout Sam?
@AdiPullen
Жыл бұрын
Hi sam I hope you are well interesting video Some interesting models there Do you plan to do other wheel configurations Thank you for sharing your models with us Keep safe ARP
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Adi - yeah I might try to do other wheel configs - any suggestions would be much appreciated! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@AdiPullen
Жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains maybe a long one 4-6-2 or 2-6-0
@GenericGeeza
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the Dapol Large Prairie, recently got one and it is easily my best. Wasn't too bad a price either considering I got one DCC fitted. Might have a look for one of the V2s, it does look quite good
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Yeah me too - fantastic models all round those, especially at the price! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@loona4133
Жыл бұрын
It's a very nice train. Ur lucky to have all those engines. I'm jelous
@Pennsy6755m1b
Жыл бұрын
Hi
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Hello! :D
@deormanrobey892
Жыл бұрын
A poorly detailed or sorry performer could be a good place to teach yourself weathering and livery changes. Equipment sitting on a service shop spur doesn't need to run well. 😉
@MayoHosko
Жыл бұрын
I’m not sold on prairies
@davidstrainsandlego
Жыл бұрын
I've always enjoyed this wheel arrangement, despite not being very realistic, I love my lionel 2-6-2 2025
@kineuhansen8629
Жыл бұрын
still find it funny that so many english engines have so american names like praire and oacific and great western
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely - most of the wheel configuration names do seem to have an American sound to them! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@NWRJ_WStudios
Жыл бұрын
First
@briandesens144
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations
@timbervalleyproductions
Жыл бұрын
Well done!
@NWRJ_WStudios
Жыл бұрын
@@timbervalleyproductions Thank you
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Well done!! :D
@citricamoeba
Жыл бұрын
Forgot the V2 was a Prairie! Such a lovely loco! Will have to pick one of those up at some point!
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
haha it's super easy to overlook isn't it?? I never thought of it as a Prairie for years!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Cape_Cod_Steve
Жыл бұрын
👍Your 4k really shines, especially when showing the cab details . Thanks Sam ! Cape Cod Steve.
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve - yeah it gives so much more detail doesn't it? Very glad I went for it :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Alextrains502
Жыл бұрын
can you redo your review of the hornby railroade flying scotsman good vid
@thebigengine
Жыл бұрын
We should call that USA prairie “The Limping Lemon” I had the 0-6-0 variant years ago and it is no doubt the worst thing I ran on the rails
@ashleystanbridge846
Жыл бұрын
Excellent review Sam, I adore the prairie class locomotives and its great to see you do a compilation of these weird but lovely little tank engines (excluding that American one). Looking forward to your next video, keep up the good work :)
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ashley - I love them too, thanks a lot for sharing! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@attuslebeard5133
Жыл бұрын
I wish there was a model of the LMS Fowler 2-6-2T it would go well with Hornby's 4P 2-6-4T
@ordinaldragoon
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love prairies because of how symmetrical and graceful looking some of them were. I think the reason the UK never had many to begin with was fuel capacity issues I think as a 2-6-4T could hold a larger bunker for increased fuel. Then again, I would have loved to have seen more prairie tender engines like the V2.
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you - and very interesting, thanks for sharing! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@physiocrat7143
Жыл бұрын
The Russian S and Su classes and the German class 23 were 2-6-2 tender locomotives built in large numbers.
@drecksaukerl
Жыл бұрын
The class 23 was the last steam loco built in the German Federal Republic. The class 64 tank locomotives were built in very large numbers until 1940 and lasted into the 1970s. Quite a few prairie tank engines were built during the Provincial period of the German Railways.
@robertwilloughby8050
Жыл бұрын
@@drecksaukerl The 23 were an excellent class that was supposed to supplant the 38 4-6-0's, but in tribute to the 38's, the 23's worked side by side with them. Both engines are truly wonderful machines!
@roberthuron9160
Жыл бұрын
Two major users of Prairie engines,in the US were the ATSF,and CB&Q,with the Milwaukee Road,and Northern Pacific as other lines running Prairies!Add too,the Lake Shore &Michigan Southern,(NYC Lines West)which ran the Twentieth Century Limited,with those engines!They were rebuilt into Pacific's,as were some of the ATSF engines!Anyway,the historical record has quite a bit of rebuilds,i.e.,from 2-6-2,to 0-6-0,on the CB&Q,and there were also logging engines[which I think Bachman used as protype,Lima and Baldwin both produced those type engines], so there is much territory unexplored,and good hunting 😀! Thank you very much for an interesting program 😀 👍 😉!
@PennsyPappas
Жыл бұрын
So 1000 prairies sound like a lot but when you compare it to the 25000 4-4-0, 11000 Moguls, and 6800 4-6-2 made it is actually a rare wheel configuration. Fun fact the reason it has the name Prairies is because it was being primarily used out in the Midwest part of the US along the prairies Hence of course it's name. The 2-6-2 along with the 2-10-2 might look balanced but ironically suffered balancing issues for the locos and could cause range to the rails. While it probably had some advantages it was really overshadowed but much better freight steam engines that didn't suffer as much as the prairies so it fell by the way side. Wonderful video as always and yeah the Bachmann prairie isn't the best but it was made as a budget engine which explains why it feels more toy like than a proper model.
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Interesting - so we can call them rare over there too then! Thanks so much for sharing, Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@PennsyPappas
Жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains Your welcome I always look forward to see what videos you're going to do. I should look up how many 4-4-0 were built in the UK. That be interesting to find out.
@lewishughes8541
Жыл бұрын
Hi sam hope you are ok I love the bachmann small prairie it may be outdated but it still holds up to modern standards
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
I hope you are too! Yeah I love the thing.... it's awesome! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@aayan131
Жыл бұрын
Hey There Sam, Was Asking Could You Do A Review On A Fenfa Train Set And Tell Us What Do You Think.
@paulcaswell2813
4 ай бұрын
Rare? Plenty of 2-6-2Ts in Britain (LNE, LMS, and GW), plus 180+ LNE V2 tender engines. And then the couple of V4s too... Hardly a rarity!
@johnholden8872
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam interesting I don’t know much about trains but I find your vids very informative.Can I ask you I saw the vids on your Hornby turn table. You used the Barrie Davis vids the wire yours up..I was doing it with Barrie’s wiring but he took them down before I had finished. I was wondering if you still have the videos so I can Finnish the wiring many thanks John.
@zedhol
Жыл бұрын
Fun video as always. I don't think that anyone has mentioned it, but the 4575 class were preceded by the 45xx and that preceded by the 44xx class. Although they were all related, the 44xx has smaller wheels, and the 45xx had a straight tank top, with the sloped version being introduced on the 4575 class. So, there were sufficient differences that they were considered 3 classes by the GWR. Bachmann make a 45xx.
@marktownend8065
Жыл бұрын
Interesting that the Ivatt 2-6-2T locos were tank versions of similar 2-6-0 tender engines. The tender versions were equipped with so called 'cab tenders, for good visibility when running in reverse so, unlike many earlier tender engines could be used at the same speed in reverse without turning. In this they matched the tank engine versions' flexibility so the main difference between tank and tender was in fuel and water range. The V2 was built as a prairie rather than a 2-6-0 to accomodate a long boiler with wide firebox, a common Gresley design feature to ensure high steaming capacity, as used on his Pacifics of the era.
@RGJTrains
Жыл бұрын
I agree, your point of the hideous one, 100% spot on, not nice at all
@timothyparsons8327
Жыл бұрын
The underboilered Stanier 3MT of which at least one was fitted with a larger boiler. However the original design would interest me, in model form whereby the chunky chimney accentuates the inadequacy of the smoke box and boiler. Personally I prefer these to the Fowler variants whose appearances were marred by the condensing pipes for working underground.
@emilioi.valdez6680
Жыл бұрын
Well for strange wheel configurations, there's a mad quadraplex locomotive the Belgians cooked up.
@lazerlake
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if this is the actual reason, but this is the reason I would argue about why tender prairies are not common. This is my understanding of information provided by a real steam locomotive engineer. Also KZitemr named Hyce! Go check him out too. He's an awesome dude. Now from what I learned from watching heist videos is that more or less? Everyone wants to use a smaller engine like a bigger engine so you want it to be as capable as possible in the locomotive world. This means the getting the most tractive effort that a little engine can provide. Now a small engine can provide more tractive effort than a large engine if it carries the fuel/water weight on the engine chassis as that puts more force onto the rails. In addition to not having the fuel and water weight providing more traction to the driving wheels, the engine now also has to tow its fuel and water in the tender which is all dead weight detracting from what it can do further. Supposedly an engine with a tender is also more cumbersome to operate in switching yards and reversing operations. So the tank engine format is more common for smaller engines than the tender.
@ecidaho
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to American Bachmann, yet again. Sadly the American Prairie is a pale comparison to the gorgeous V2.
@Jimyjames73
Жыл бұрын
I have 2 Large Prairie made by Airfix!!! 🙂🚂🚂🚂
@ivovanzon164
Жыл бұрын
Looks like somebody is ready for a Class 23 Neubaulok...
@hawkeye4184
Жыл бұрын
Is that a bell on UP 1836? It reminded me of Friar Tuck of Robin Hood fame!
@murdochm4847
Жыл бұрын
I know that it is nòt a currently produced model, but what about the Bachman V1/V3.?
@welshlyn9097
Жыл бұрын
Dear Sam could you tell me where I can find LED lights for my models Thanks 😊
@tobythehairlessdog8876
Жыл бұрын
hey Sam - how about a video of all the 0-8-0 wheel engines? They are pretty rare and I think they are so ugly that they look good haha
@GarethFarnsfield
Жыл бұрын
Lima also produced a small prairie. A bit rough and a product of its time. Still good for modelling on a budget!
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Yes they did! I've seen those but never owned one - cool stuff! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@JustinFrazier_360
Жыл бұрын
That's amazing Sam
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Justin! :D
@vaclavmacgregor2464
Жыл бұрын
Sam where is the other uk tender 2-6-2 the midland Paget???????
@John2E0GTU
Жыл бұрын
Grizzly Pacific's according to the auto translate!
@paulpilkington1797
Жыл бұрын
The LNER V4 was also a prairie tender loco. Only 2 built
@mcollier4566
Жыл бұрын
We all spotted the one you missed, the Bachmann Gresley V3 tank!
@ciaranburke3243
10 ай бұрын
Price and issues aside sam it's a lovely piece of kit best left in an unused siding as a static piece 👍
@nathanwatson01
Жыл бұрын
Sam I will always appreciate the work you put into making your videos the absolute best they can be. I'm getting back into trains after years and I personally havent found another youtube channel that matches the quality of your videos. Keep up the good work!
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Nathan, that's really lovely to hear my friend - have fun getting back into trains, good luck! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Cape_Cod_Steve
Жыл бұрын
Agreed Nathan .
@railway_modeller_4567
Жыл бұрын
Are you going to get the new warship class 34
@vincentmorris8431
Жыл бұрын
Not sure I've seen a video like this on your channel... Part of a series? Might you do more configurations?
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Vincent - that's something I may do for sure - any more suggestions are welcome! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@marmion150
Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video, thanks Sam. Alot of other comments seem preoccupied by the rarity of prairies...so perhaps it's worth mentioning that over 3000 ran in the USSR, classes S and Su. However, I don't rate your chances of finding one in OO or HO !
@survivingworldsteam
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The only one I have seen this side of the Iron Curtin was at Miniture Wonderland. It was near the roundhouse in one of their videos. I have an HO Scale card model of an Su, but obviously it is non-operational. They are beautiful locomotives; several have been preserved, including in operational order.
@malcolmloud9389
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When will you start streaming again
@CustomiZe_
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I would've thought 2-10-0 wheel configurations within the uk would be the rarest with only 9f's, WD austerity's being included. I can't think of any more. That said I can only think of two 0-10-0's as well being big Bertha and the GER Class A55 👍👍
@johnd8892
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Rarest in UK would be the 4-8-4 and 4-8-2 configurations with zero UK classes. Compare that to the US, Europe, South Africa and Australia with too many classes of these type to list.
@CustomiZe_
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@@johnd8892 if there is no uk 4-8-4's then it can't be the rarest as it doesn't exist.
@guyplays1244
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(you forgot the lner v3)
@GreatWestern5199
Жыл бұрын
Considering my channel is literally named after a Large Prairie, it's fairly obvious that I like this video very much 😂
@Steven_Rowe
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Gresley also produce his V1 and V3 tanks from the 1920s. Bachmann produced them
@lapiswake6583
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There was a 2nd successful british Prairie tender engine, the LNER V4. Gresley's final design as a lightweight version of the V2 (although taking much more from the V1/V3) with much greater route availability, only 2 of them were made (3401 Bantam Cock and 3402 (dubbed Bantam Hen by enthusiasts)) because Thompson took over after Gresley's death, and replaced the production order for the class with his own B1 design, which was a better decision for wartime needs. A 3rd member of the class, 3403 Highlander, is under construction in Darlington, although her construction will really move on after the P2 is done.
@glennscotttrains7513
Жыл бұрын
Sam, Do you have the Great Western Prairie 5526, if you would like to see that running around your layout
@chrisredding6673
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Prairies are nice, but a 2-6-4T going backwards is a Pacific. 🙂
@SamsTrains
Жыл бұрын
haha yeah!! Maybe I'll have to do a video on that too :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@toyotaprius79
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I think 2-4-4s would be considerably rarer. I can't find much
@BlandSpagetti
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Yeah those are definitely rarer
@SamsTrains
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That's true - I don't think I have any of those in model form at all! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@medwaymodelrailway7129
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Love the video Sam. Thanks for sharing.
@richardwilliams7692
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Probably the rarest configurations, especially in the UK, was the Baltic (4-6-4). Triang used to make an "American/Continental" version, but I've never seen a British outline model
@willausterman3104
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Across the pond, Hudsons were quite popular in the USA. Quite possibly the most iconic steam locomotive design is that of a NYC J-3A with Dreyfuss streamlining.
@ChrisJNeale
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London, Brighton & South Coast Railway had some very elegant Baltic tanks and the London, Tilbury & Southend, Lancashire & Yorkshire, Furness Railway and Glasgow & South Western all built them too. All very imposing locos.
@CustomiZe_
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The Scarborough miniature railway has a 4-6-4 called Robin Hood.
@johnd8892
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The Triang R.56 Baltic Tank 4-6-4T was modelled most closely to a New Zealand Wab tank locomotive but Triang also made these to sell in Australia, South Africa and India where similar locomotives ran. Not American or Continental at all but the name transcontinental that Triang used for the series made many think they were for the continent of Europe. However Triang only made one Continental locomotive the R.653 tank locomotive which was a model of a French SNCF prairie tank. Triang more successful for the Canadian and Australian market as they struggled to sell the too freelance models they hoped to sell in the already well served US market. The Oscar Paisley channel is a great resource for these old Triang models information.
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