I actually enjoy the p&w tone, though not necessarily p&w music. It’s a nice change from chasing the dad blues/srv sound.
@emmanuelibus
Жыл бұрын
I've been playing for church for over 20 years now. I went from pedal board with different pedals, to a Line6 XT Live, to a M13, then back to a minimal board. All I really need for that modern worship music electric guitar tone is a compressor, overdrive, delay, and reverb. Keeley Compressor +, Morning Glory, Tumnus, Walrus Audio Mako D1, Fathom.
@sublyme2157
2 жыл бұрын
I started playing guitar in the final days of giant rack units and Marshall full stacks. I remember when the Klon came out and why it was popular in underground circles (hint: it had nothing to do with sound, and everything to do with having a crudely drawn centaur on it). Nothing lasts forever, and there will always be the next big trend. Truth be told, I'm pretty excited for the day when these giant mothership pedalboards go away. Not that they're bad, just that they're entirely too much and mostly unnecessary. Thousands upon thousands of dollars for three or four sounds to play three to five songs one time a week. Just down right goofy :)
@albertplaysguitar
2 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head...
@JoeyMorrison82
2 жыл бұрын
If you look at Hislop’s board he has the plasma fuzz pedal. That thing is awesome. But the options out there for midi capable reverbs and delays make is so people have options other than strymon for it. Jet Pedals has some pretty good stuff too. Little midi controller and the drives and reverb are really good too. Looking to switch to their reverb or the Walrus R1 and D1 to have a smaller foot print and a smaller board.
@Payne2view
2 жыл бұрын
The plasma fuzz is great fun if you want to sound like an electricity transmission line crackling in the fog. I'm not convinced such sounds are relevant to accompanying singing of songs about God though. The purpose of music in church is to aid singing, not to manufacture emotional reactions to be misidentified as the Holy Spirit, who will not be mocked forever.
@devineubanks5692
2 жыл бұрын
I have a D1 and I couldn’t get it to sound quite like I wanted. It’s very warm sounding. I couldn’t seem to brighten up the repeats no matter how hard I tried. It would be good for big ambient sounds
@benjaminkoskinen5835
Жыл бұрын
I am excited to build a board for myself that CAN be used in church if needed. That is what I am excited for. Overtime accumulating a collection and make my own opinion on what sounds good.
@2speedy4u22
2 жыл бұрын
Hislop is the new Duke, yet Dukes pedalboard is reasonable while Hislop’s is the strymon trifecta mothership with midi switching. If there your two markers I think you’ve just proved it’s alive and well and bigger than ever. I suspect Hislop sells patches to help pay for the gear. 😜
@baileywatts1304
2 жыл бұрын
thanks for making me feel like my rig with eight pedals is not as excessive as I feared it was
@MrJeffcondit
2 жыл бұрын
P&W guitar sound is just the evolution of the Edge’s sound. Those kids were raised by parents listening to 90’s U2 albums. They just slowed it down a bit for religious ambience. It’s really funny once you recognize it.
@sseltrek1a2b
Жыл бұрын
you're not wrong...so much U2 influence in worship music over the past 10 years or so...
@seraph127
Жыл бұрын
Interesting. “Praise and worship” was originally devised to displace Contemporary Christian Music, which was considered decadent and indulgent because its writers were Christians who expressed their popular-music influences freely. Regardless of the fact that the lyrics of most CCW songs were reactionary as any hymn in the hymnal, the old folks hated the music so the bland, tedious pablum that is P&W evolved to replace this “dangerous” music. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that P&W’s submediocrity is so oppressive even to the musicians who play it that they are trying to go back to something more interesting and satisfying.
@隠れた
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the similarities between worship boards and math rock/Midwest emo boards is very close and the typical jhs morning glory with a few strymons isn’t always a worship players board
@BeastMadeReviews
2 жыл бұрын
I always laughed at the stereotype of P&W rigs. I still hear comments (from friends even) that say you should only play certain styles of guitars and effects for worship. LOL. But then they always compliment me on how I sound with my fairly unconventional Parker Fly + Helix "rig", and they are amazed that I could sound as good as it does. I take it as a compliment. But I also love deliberately trying to play unconventional setups.
@devineubanks5692
2 жыл бұрын
A helix isn’t considered a P&W rig? Half the guitarists I know at the churches in my town play Helixes
@BeastMadeReviews
2 жыл бұрын
@@devineubanks5692 yeah I agree. I think it's a funny sentiment from people. The Helix is more standard than strange.
@lukeyduke79
2 жыл бұрын
Totally did not pick you guys as being suicidal tendencies fans, I'm impressed.
@thecdant
2 жыл бұрын
A pedalboard is primarily a utility. It needs to serve A) the sounds B) the performance requirements. A & B are variable depending on the music, venue and role. I built my own board for church and it has a lot on it but it is usable, stable and reliable. I also built a (much smaller) board for my blues band and it is VERY different. Songs need sounds, boards support sounds. It's a right tool for the right job thing. Make wise choices.
@verythorough511
2 жыл бұрын
David Hislop is probably one of the more famous pw guitarists tone searches.
@georgemavimbela
Жыл бұрын
He is very good
@TheNotoriousYJX
2 жыл бұрын
My “insane pedal board” Cheap Donner tuner with the too bright LED Keeley Compressor Russian Big Muff re-ish Blues Driver SD-1 Effects loop: JHS 3 Series Phaser EHX Nano Mistress Boss TR-2 Source Audio Collider I occasionally throw on an Afterneath when I need extra weird.
@stevesmith5434
2 жыл бұрын
As a 48 yr veteran of being a P&W leader and guitarist, I've never had a massive pedalboard of individual pedals, per se. In the '70's I used an MXR phase shifter and that was it. In the '80's I graduated to an MXR chorus, a Boss SD-1 an MXR analog delay and a Ross compressor. In the '90's I used an ART SGX T2 with the ART Midi pedal, then graduated to using various Digitech RP units, like the RP 12 and the RP 20 through the power amp in on my Peavey Bandit. In the early '2000's when the Roland VG-88 came out, I used it exclusively for a time. Then I added a Digitech GNX-4. Through the latter '2000's (because I had to cover a LOT of ground sonically) I hit my "final form", which consisted of 2 GNX4's, my Roland VG-88, a Roland GR-33, a Digitech Time Bender, and an Adrenalinn III, all run to the house using a mix I created through my own on stage mixer and I used a Godin LGX-SA as my axe of choice exclusively. These days, I use a Line 6 HX Effects unit, but I still have the other stuff just in case. At home I primarily just play through a Boss Katana MK1 and a Peavey Vypyr VIP-2, except when I have to come up with new sounds.
@JoeMama410
Жыл бұрын
I stepped away for a few years then came back. Now the major worship bands are all drums and pads with verb-drenched guitars buried in the back.
@gradypatterson1948
2 жыл бұрын
As a worship leader, I've never gone for any stereotypical pedalboard. Admittedly, I am the whole team (with occasional keyboard sit-ins) - that led me to a very different goal, and thus different effect selections. I felt more need to create as full a sound as I can, so I've selected an interesting collection. I have a Roland GK on an Epiphone Les Paul copy, feeding into a Boss GR-3. From the GR-3, the effected output goes to the main input of an EHX TriParallel, while the GR-3's bypass goes into channel 1 of the TriParallel. Mostly, the GR-3 is modeling an acoustic or one of several 12-string emulations. Channel 2 of the feeds an EHX Grand Canyon delay and back into the main, while channel 3 feeds into an EHX Mel9 and back. The Mel9 has attack near maxed and the decay as slow as it goes, allowing an organ-like pad tone. It isn't perfect, but it's better than my ability to play it 🙂 Not exactly the stereotype 🙂
@brad-guitar-miller813
2 жыл бұрын
Using a couple of drive pedals in front of the HX stomp works great for a P&W board, especially since no amps on stage!
@cade_olson
2 жыл бұрын
Okay so recently ive been learning a ton about pedalboards and one of my favorite parts is when i see boards and immediately try and identify if it follows the worship formula 😂 Just dont forget the pog octave pedal, jhs morning glory and kilt and a boost switch.
@cchavez248
8 ай бұрын
The need for very little stage/pulpit volume and reduced clutter has really driven the Helix/multieffects rigs with in-ear monitors! Also, even in a church, it's not wise to keep expensive equipment just to have it grow legs and walk away!
@justinpalmer6098
2 жыл бұрын
My P&W board is Fuzz Face->Plumes->Nux Plexi Crunch->EHX Ram's Head->Caline EQ->Tuner->Gate->Joyo Analog Delay->Boss DD-20. Not so typical, but it does everything I need it to do. With the DD-20, you can dial in a chorus, flanger and rotary speaker effect, hence the other delay being on the board. If I'm being 100% honest though, I could probably play every Sunday with just the Plumes and a delay. FULL DISCLOSURE: I do plug into an AC30, but it's not mine. I have a Twin Reverb, but I've chosen to leave it at home since the Vox is there.
@BIGEARpedals
2 жыл бұрын
..also because transporting a twin reverb will make you want to give up on playing music entirely!
@justinpalmer6098
2 жыл бұрын
@@BIGEARpedals NO DOUBT!!! It's as heavy as it is loud
@jerroldshelton9367
2 жыл бұрын
"Do you think it is going to go back to Ovations"? I practically laughed myself out of my chair when I heard that comment, because I've ALREADY made that metaphorical return trip, more or less. In my case, it is more "less" than "more." You have the "Afford-a-Board." I have the "Afford-a-Rig". I play a Harley Benton HBO-600 "Roundback, inspired by a company starting with O in the U.S.A." that I paid $79.00 + shipping for back in February. I use a $35.99 Lekato / Lity L6 wireless connection into a Boss TU-3 that I paid $119.99 as a show of local brick and mortar music store support. From there, the signal goes through $16.95 worth of Kmise compressor, a $30.00 in 2004 money Danelectro Cool Cat chorus (to be replaced on Saturday with $16.95 worth of Kmise chorus), and then into $19.00 worth of MiMiDi Ocean Verb, and into the house D.I. box from there. For my IEM, I'm using $44.00 worth of Lekato wireless transmitter plugged in to our church's horrid individual digital stage IEM mixers, with the receiver on my belt and my IEM's plugged in to that. I'm playing an "Ovation" because I'm the only guitar player we're got and we don't presently have drums or percussion beyond keys. So, being able to follow the current conventional P&W wisdom of "acoustic guitar in a praise band is a percussion instrument" helps out. Plus, I can beat on an Ovation and make drum sounds come out of it in a way that I can't on my Telecaster or Keith Brawley Super Strats. We sometimes don't have a bass player, either, so having some acoustic guitar bottom end allows me to fill in for him to some degree by doing ascending or descending bass runs between chord changes. If you're going to do "electric lead lines" on an acoustic guitar, which I do, I still think there's little else out there in the Acoustosphere better than an Ovation or a good clone of one to do it on. Having some commonality with a Tupperware salad bowl is why Ovations that act like they're supposed to have very even volume and sustain response up, down, and across the fingerboard, and why they don't run out of musical gas beyond the seventh fret. I can do what my Italian-immigrant spouse calls my "twiddly bits" anywhere I'd have done them on a Telecaster. Actually, as my HBO 600s have 24 fret necks, I can "twiddle" at the dusty end where a Tele has no more frets to twiddle with. And when I do those "twiddly bits," I can do double-stop, full step and beyond bends to my heart's content thanks to Ovation-like tuning stability. As long as I feel a need to sing lead, play accompaniment and lead lines, or do all three at the same time, and throw in a little percussive body wack, and sometimes cover the bass part, too, there's nothing I can actually afford that I'd rather play than an "Ovation" like my HBO-600 instruments. Until my situation changes and we get some volunteers to play guitars and real percussion instruments, I'll keep the "Roundback revolution" going because I really have no choice unless I want to put the congregation to sleep by strumming cowboy chords for 45 minutes. I couldn't do what I feel I need to do on any other instrument.
@bluzzjazz
2 жыл бұрын
24 mins. in.....Duesenberg's are fabulous guitars. Whether they are popular or not I could care less. The Grand Vintage HB is superb and the trem is legendary for reliability and smoothness.
@60CycleHumcast
2 жыл бұрын
oh, i agree, theres nothing wrong with any of the gear we mentioned. If anything church guitarists get stereotyped for using gear that is super nice.
@mikefromusa6902
2 жыл бұрын
Lol. You dudez are talking my language. All I play at church is usually a tele or sg classic into some sort of tube screamer into either a Princeton reverb or champ and occasionally a lap steel. Done. Easy. Amazing. I use to use a ton of delays, reverbs, a volume pedal, looper, stacked overdrives, booster, and an old bandmaster. Too much. I’m more influenced by echo and the bunnymen, the smiths and various tele players than any worship guitarists per-se. I’m digging traditional choral advent music. Especially this time of year (December).
@carrterdinkins7977
2 жыл бұрын
I was buying a pedal and the dude behind me was literally the praise and worship stereotype 😭 I was going to buy a rat but he kept telling me to buy a ehx soul food because the rat was “too much distortion” ended up buying the rat because that was what I had money for lmao
@60CycleHumcast
2 жыл бұрын
I imagine he was wearing a hat of some sort, and maybe a scarf over a deep v neck tee shirt.
@TheNotoriousYJX
2 жыл бұрын
I bought my first RAT because I literally wanted too much distortion.
@BrianLeverett
2 жыл бұрын
Can’t go wrong with a Rat!
@carrterdinkins7977
2 жыл бұрын
@@60CycleHumcast no he wasn’t but he was trying to sell a tele deluxe to guitar center, claiming it was special and they were offering him too little, even though he had no proof it was special
@TheNotoriousYJX
2 жыл бұрын
Where are my shoegaze people at? My praise and worship is for Kevin Shields.
@xrdbnk
2 жыл бұрын
amen.
@TheAmazingSnarf
2 жыл бұрын
This this this
@playdelay
2 жыл бұрын
My pedal board is a quasi-stereotypical Mothership: Passive splitter into 2 Voodoo Lab Amp Selectors (running up to 8 amps for the studio). Channel 2 has a Keeley modded ts9 for a recto. Channel 8 is pedals for a backline. It goes to a JHS switchback. Loop A on the Switchback has a guyatone ps032 (rat) and a 80s dod250. Loop B has a Browne Amps Protein. From the switchback it goes into a pass thru box with 2 channels so you can use 4 cable method with s/r loops if you want. Then it goes through my pink Ibanez DE7, My XTS mod Ibanez EM5, my boss dd7 (set to quarter notes), boss dd20 (set to dotted eighths) and lastly a Old Blood Noise/Data Choir Rever. The boss delays are controlled by a disaster area micro clock where I preset bpms for each song. I prefer to play a Marshall at church but there is an ac30 provided.
@ConspiratorElec
2 жыл бұрын
I lead worship for my church’s youth group of about 200 teens per week, and we do not go in for a quiet stage. I use a full pedalboard; fuzz face, keeley compressor plus, full tone OCD (x2), stepmom timeline, digitech supernatural verb, along with others and a 1965 fender super reverb on the platform.. no sound isolation, to keep up with the love drums and loud bass. We go hard : )
@ConspiratorElec
2 жыл бұрын
Also, I use a couple guitars: 2001 MIM Strat, a 2015 epi Sheraton II pro, and an inexpensiveish martin acoustic
@maxheadroom6067
2 жыл бұрын
The death… but soon the resurrection? 🤷♂️ I just want people to get out of the box and start making their own sounds.
@jacksmith2617
2 жыл бұрын
I play guitar at my church on the worship team. I have a boss katana amp and ibanez les paul copy, thats it.
@frusciantegeartone
Жыл бұрын
My P&W pedalboard was always changing. Even used my Frusciante inspired board for a while. There are no rules. It’s also ok to sound like U2 in 23. Whatever floats your boat. But guys like Zach Williams is making acoustic sets popular again. Which I think is awesome. It’s more raw/real/personal. The dotted 8th delays and octave reverb can be overdone, but again, whatever floats your boat..
@gregcsefko
2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think Nigel Hendroff & Hillsong created the “Worship Sound” trend the past 15 or more years. Massive effect racks & boards, Matchless, Vox, Fender, Gretsch & Deusenberg. I would say Hillsong has been the trendsetter for 20 years now. It’s only recently that other groups/churches have truly branched out to create a sound that is uniquely their own. Even then, Hillsong tends to be ahead of the curve.
@60CycleHumcast
2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely fair and I don't know why I didn't think of Nigel. - steve
@guitarplayer1969
2 жыл бұрын
I play P&W worship at my church and James Duke is not who I would have thought of at all. Nigel Hendroff and Hilsong United definitely were the trendsetters. The reason why the Helix and other modelers are taking over is because it is a consistent sound and churches want silent stages. Same reason why the secular festival scene is also moving to modeling.
@georgemavimbela
Жыл бұрын
I agree
@Musicman4Christ
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve only watched the first several min so far but I’d say who the 2021 “James Duke” of P&W could possibly be Hislop…BUT Mateus Asato, although not limited to P&W, is No. 1. His work with Tori Kelly and several other artists is second to none.
@blaineadams7484
Жыл бұрын
I use a 50 watt amp in a pedal through the PA. It pushes the PA pretty well and our monitors aren't happy about it
@virtus12ful
2 жыл бұрын
A few months ago, I nuked my church rig for a Headrush Pedlaboard. It was purely to improve my workflow and lighten the load of what I need each Sunday. I mimic my old physical board effects wise, but I wanted to streamline a lot.
@tymime
2 жыл бұрын
I remember there was a time when people were saying "You should only ever use a cranked tube amp, you don't need any pedals!"
@minnixmusic
10 ай бұрын
On my board I pretty much just use a spring reverb pedal. And I have a double neck 12/6 guitar I built that the 6 is like a strat and the 12 is like a Harley Benton. And I run the spring into a joyo American pedal for my amp. I also have a ms50g for other sounds I might need. I like to keep it simple.
@waffleshadow6840
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know there was a "typical" look and feel for worship. I use a Boss katana Artist, with the GACF footwwitch, I use a zoom CDR in the looper for added effects. I use a PRS custom 24, and a PRS Zach Myers ( one modded with pearly gates the other with hot-rodded pickups) and a Gretsch electromatic Jet (soon to be modded with p90s). IDK if my minimal rig is common for others, but works for me
@jerroldshelton9367
2 жыл бұрын
If you think your rig is "minimal," you should see my signal chain. It's a Keith Brawley A-122 "Super Strat" (H-S-S pickup configuration / flame maple top on swamp ash body) into a Boss tuner pedal into a Behringer GD 121 direct to the mixing board. I don't even use a pick. Just fingers on strings. :) Or it's a Harley Benton HBO 600 NT (Ovation clone) plugged into a Zoom AC-2 direct to the board, on Wednesday nights when it's just me leading. Works for me... ;)
@phillipbland2861
2 жыл бұрын
Somehow I manage to play in a worship setting without an EHX POG or Jackson Audio Bloom. And I'm sure I have a ton more gain than most PW boards: Wampler Dual Fusion, J Rockett Melody and Mojo Hand Rook. And I guess you can sort of count the Deco in there too
@Pdnlegs
2 жыл бұрын
I recently got a new Walrus Eras distortion. only place i plan is my house and at church. will have zero use for it at church. but it looked fun. my board consists TC Flashback, TC Hall of Fame 2 and whatever 3-8 Drive pedals i feel like putting on it. my Nocturne Atomic Brain is the only always on the board pedal. currently i have the Atomic Brain, the King of Tone, the 1981 DRV, the Flashback, the Hall of Fame, and now the ERAS. that is currently the board. have about 15 overdrives and fuzzes sitting in a box lol.
@DeAthWaGer
2 жыл бұрын
Well... It might be blasphemous, but I consider Hall of Fame a God-tier series of pedals.
@JohnKelly2
2 жыл бұрын
Ryan, check out the AtGames Legends Digital Pinball. It's smaller than a regular pinball machine, cheaper, and you can put tons of pinball machines on it.
@dannyboystudios6604
2 жыл бұрын
A few things I think happened to the huge P&W pedalboards: 1-silent stages and IEM’s, no amps allowed so the Helix IR’s became more common. 2- covid shutdown a lot of churches and most around here are running a skeleton crew as P&W people haven’t come back yet and most churches are at about 20-30% of pre-covid attendance. I miss using my board with a band, just down to an acoustic now.
@the1trueporkchop
2 жыл бұрын
I went helix for my non-church band. Now I have more church patches than non-church patches!
@markferguson3745
Жыл бұрын
There's no mystery or irony in it feeling better to voluntarily do a job you can afford to do for nothing, than to be paid not enough, in any possible universe, to survive on. It can be an increasingly dark experience to feel you are trapped in a place where you are being taken advantage of, and there are many levels of this above that of rock bottom. Necessary sacrifices for " necessary" jobs....
@rodriguez3749
Жыл бұрын
Playing guitar at church on Sunday is one of my favorite things to do. I’m a volunteer and would never ask to be paid as I make a decent wage at my full time job. But it turns out I’m the only one on my worship team not being paid, and it’s getting harder and harder to not feel like a sucker.
@markferguson3745
Жыл бұрын
@@rodriguez3749 So, either all but you are taking advantage of personal connections to profit off what should be strictly volunteer work, someone is pocketing what should be your share, or there is some pretense that "new" members are paying for the learning experience.All complete BS scenarios.Don't feel awkward telling them how anyone would feel.
@rodriguez3749
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s a weird situation, maybe look for a smaller church to be a part of instead of one that’s trying to be a mega church
@spamilton1
2 жыл бұрын
2021's James Duke is still James Duke
@johntalley6028
2 жыл бұрын
I have a basic rig for worship… Fender Mustang III V2 Gibson Les Paul A chord People for so long have looked for someone else’s sound so much that they don’t have their own sound. I find a Princeton preset eq’d to a nice full clean and an overdrive for leads covers 99% of anything played… and it sounds great… and I can send a signal to the board, zero the master volume, and no need for iso-boxes or pedal boards. Everyone else I know is a Helix person and they spend more time adjusting settings than actually playing
@bluzzjazz
2 жыл бұрын
I have a blue sparkle Swept Wing. It's a cool guitar to break out once and awhile. As far as boards vs Helix/Fractal etc.......We run silent stage/IEMs but I have a 60W SuperSonic in an Iso-cab in our rack room. My board is DI'd to amp/house. Works for me. Yes, I do have a few Strymon pedals but others as well like my always on Ego and Wampler Bluebird which a very underrated pedal.
@petermoss208
2 жыл бұрын
This isn’t Worship. But if you still care a lot about being cool after high-school, here are the pedals everyone buys regardless of their sound. (usually based on what they see on IG): Strymon anything, usually Time Based. Klon, Bluesbreaker and Tube Screamer. A TS-10 because John Mayer->SRV. An Arion SCH-1 Chorus. A 29 Pedals EUNA. An EP pedal by Xotic. An Eventide H9. A Dumble Pedal by Vertex. A Tim, Timmy or Greer. A 1981 Inventions DRV. And the last one is a Nobels ODR. But real ones are way too expensive for most IG guitarists. This is because session players in Nashville have been using them for the last 30 years long before it became “cool”. That’s all I can think of right now. If this annoys you, it’s not my tone, it’s the fact that your board has every one of these on it and you feel insecure. Are there any I missed? Feel free to add on ✌️
@richardclark.
2 жыл бұрын
I believe the sb500 was only MIJ until about 1980. You don't run into many in The USA. They are supposed to be o good sounding bass. I saw a very pretty darker sunburst color not too long ago. On another note, I ordered a generic mini gold fuzz from you tube hoping to get the cuvave circuit. When it showed up it was branded Cuvave. How awesome! And it really is a great fuzz for a great price. Spirit in the sky sounds great on that thing!
@IYF_Productions_SL
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you guys about having pedals and a multi-effect board. I got a ton of pedals for my bass and guitar but I also have a helix. Which do I prefer? They both have their positives and negatives. It's your choice because both work wonderfully for my purposes. Helix is fun but buying and swapping out pedals is a lot of fun as well! YMMV Great show gents!
@mcleanmachut
2 жыл бұрын
Just picked up Headrush Gigboard (for cheap since mx5 is out) to replace my full board for worship. Sounds killer
@JoshDempler
2 жыл бұрын
Our church moved to HX LT a few years ago and it's pretty awesome. I sill would love to have a real amp but it's great for the sound guys.
@stephenhawkingsfootballboo7885
2 жыл бұрын
In regard to Praise & Worship/Christian Rock music, I agree with Hank Hill: “Can't you see you're not making Christianity better, you're just making rock n' roll worse.”
@60CycleHumcast
2 жыл бұрын
praise and worship is different than christian rock. but its still a funny joke.
@misterknightowlandco
2 жыл бұрын
With P&W music change rock n roll to U2 and I’d say it’s accurate and funny lol
@stephenhawkingsfootballboo7885
2 жыл бұрын
@@60CycleHumcast I'd argue P&W is worse. Bland, unsubtle lyrics set to boring music in a non-challenging contrived setting. At least guys like Bono, Michael Been and even Dylan in his Christian phase had some balls. Not to question anyone's spiritual motivations, but I think it's often an excuse for part-time/retired/hobbyist musicians to justify buying tons of gear and always knowing there's a set gig each week.
@DSeN7
2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenhawkingsfootballboo7885 There’s no need or benefit to commenting negatively on the music some people enjoy and their motivation or enjoyment in playing that music. If you don’t like it, that’s totally cool. Just listen to and play what you like.
@stephenhawkingsfootballboo7885
2 жыл бұрын
@@DSeN7 Conversely, it's my right to express my opinion on a topic brought up in the video. If you don't like my opinion, that's totally cool. Feel free to ignore it and move on.
@stevec6427
2 жыл бұрын
I've never played in a church but if I did, I would definitely use a Hail Satan fuzz
@MarbsMusic
2 жыл бұрын
I switched to a Helix just before Covid... that with an FRFR as a monitor and run straight into the board... much easier than a huge board and an amp.
@michaelolz
2 жыл бұрын
Well, it’s about time the setup that made everybody in every church sound like U2 bit the dust.
@JustEatHerCake
2 жыл бұрын
My wife's church setup is a vox mini super beetle a zoom g3xn effect unit and her grey schecter omen elite, with a beautiful poplar burl top. Has a ibanez parlor size for her acoustic.
@Pdnlegs
2 жыл бұрын
Big Sky Midnight only sounds good at midnight. P Dub players need a sunrise edition
@Megarobotsquadron
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about P &W music. never even heard an example of it.
@Gibson1976uk
2 жыл бұрын
I saw a worship pedalboard video that made me laugh! they had like 2-3 delay pedals? one of them was a high end unit that stores loads of sounds etc. and you can select patches with your foot! they are obsessed with shimmer and reverb taking over or hiding the boring playing :)
@bfaehnrich
2 жыл бұрын
Hot Topic: Wanna know what I’m guilty of in P&W? Focusing on the gear instead of practicing. There are a ton of incredible musicians playing in church, but I’m one who is guilty of having the bigger board and more gear than needed thinking it would prove that I’m good. It’s way easier to watch gear demos and doom scroll through reverb than to sit done and practice. With that being said… I love the channel and the focus on affordable gear.
@jash500
Жыл бұрын
🤚 guilty here too. When I read “Doom scroll through reverb” it was painful. I gave up recreational phone use for Lent this year, and one of the main reasons was b/c I was fixated on the reverb-KZitem demo cycle. It was tangibly affecting my day to day attitude.
@Bimmer2047
2 жыл бұрын
My P&W rig is a full pedal board but nothing really boutique. My most expensive pedal is a line 6 DL-4 that I bought in the early 2000’s. With a fender blues jr. And a two-notes captor x. So I’m direct but still “real” tube amp sound!
@markschuth8036
2 жыл бұрын
Empress Zoia has granular plus multifx. I run it direct and maybe add Oceans 12 in stereo.
@mantashaft
2 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that has six pinball machines. Very expensive.
@mcleroy1967
2 жыл бұрын
Suicidal Tendencies reference FTW!
@sseltrek1a2b
Жыл бұрын
these things go in cycles...lots of cool gear out there, but how many of us can afford to take advantage of the "latest and the greatest" gear every 2-4 years? ...at some point, something's gotta give...
@tellstarrsixtwo7120
2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of Worship Guitarist before ^^. Wasn't expecting the stuff I heard from James Duke, more like Chords Of Orion stuff :D
@sassycat
2 жыл бұрын
Aerosmith as surf music... 🤯
@jsk8et
2 жыл бұрын
I think a couple things are happening. I think it’s the downsizing for convenience and cost like you say. I think the music is changing, too. That means different sounds and different gear. I think guitar is fading in prominence in P&W a bit. I think there’s a songwriter/piano/signalong thing happening. And more Gospel, less U2 vibes (insert Rattle and Hum clip here). I think it’s healthy, especially for corporate singing, but that’s a digression. I’ve personally always hated the idea that you would need certain gear to play. Strymon pedals are great, but it’d be hard for me to buy one because a $400 reverb or whatever doesn’t make sense to me, no matter how cool the Cloud sounds. At least the HX Stomp, for $100 more, does a bunch of stuff plus amps/IRs. Maybe it’s just me but I like affordable gear better for whatever reason. I play regularly at a large-ish church in DFW, for what it’s worth. I use a hybrid rig. We used to have amps but sold them all and grabed HX Stomps. We usually use Hislop’s patches for amp replacement. It works well.
@pcanarsky
2 жыл бұрын
your pw convo was really, really good!!!
@cabbycabby1770
2 жыл бұрын
RIP Strymon and volume pedals. Also y’all really need a desk that faces you toward each other at an angle. You look like awkward 80s news casters.
@alexmclain8302
2 жыл бұрын
I've been digging the TC Electronic Plethora X5. A lot of fun and super user friendly.
@AprendeWorship
2 жыл бұрын
The 2021-2022 James Duke is E Edwars for sure!
@thedreadtones
2 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I hear the term “Praise & Worship Rig” 🤔
@albertplaysguitar
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah... think "mega church" type guitar players who need 27 pedals/$7000 rigs to make the mood of the music feel juhhhhhhhst "right"🤑
@thedreadtones
2 жыл бұрын
@@albertplaysguitar Huh…Never knew that was a thing. Thanks for clarifying.
@JoeyMorrison82
2 жыл бұрын
I got the timeline and bigsky. I go back and forth between the big board with those and the switcher with a bunch of drives a comp and a pog2 with a HX Stomp and doing a small fly rig using the protein, comp, sub “n” up mini and the HX Stomp. I do that because I love the Bloom setting on the bigsky and the tape on the stomp just isn’t as good and the strymon. Never got the Mobius though. Just used the Stomp and got the stuff I wanted out of it.
@michaelswanson179
2 жыл бұрын
When I read the title my mind instantly went to Helix/Stomp-based rigs. That is so stereotypical P&W to me.
@GayCrimeDuck
2 жыл бұрын
@22:33 I have a few other nails to tell you kids about, nails in the hands and feets of a pretty cool guy
@DubCadet
2 жыл бұрын
I'm all in for a pugburst finish! 😃
@Ottophil
2 жыл бұрын
I use mine for praise and worship but I’m a metalhead, so its satan
@hailmaryrecordings8255
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@estring69
2 жыл бұрын
Did the p & r rig suddenly develop sensitivity to excessive LED stage lights and have to quit? I know the lights have us surrounded and are moving in for the kill. And then there arose a generation who knew not the Edge?
@erikhartley2494
2 жыл бұрын
Brandon Lake did “Heart of Worship” recently and it was pretty stripped back.
@mjdbruyn
2 жыл бұрын
If you say "nitch" one more time ...
@greysuit17
2 жыл бұрын
Neesh
@DeAthWaGer
2 жыл бұрын
Niché. Like Cuvavé.
@greysuit17
2 жыл бұрын
@@DeAthWaGer Covfefe?!?
@DeAthWaGer
2 жыл бұрын
@@greysuit17 ...aaand now you're making me want to relabel a Cuvave pedal.
@bipbipletucha
2 жыл бұрын
This guy is committed.
@codygilbert6184
2 жыл бұрын
I agree it has to be Hislop right now.
@dejavoodooV2
2 жыл бұрын
totally thought shoe-gazi was a shoegaze fugazi thang too.
@tymime
2 жыл бұрын
I guess it shows what I know about contemporary Christian music, but I would've assumed a praise pedalboard was extremely conservative, unhip and middle-of-the-road setup, with only a cheap set of chorus, digital delay and reverb for very gentle sounds. This is coming from a guy whose church only ever played music played on an acoustic guitar and an off-brand violin bass.
@johndogwater
2 жыл бұрын
Thank the lord.
@GayCrimeDuck
2 жыл бұрын
I was catching up on bethel’s dirt and it led me back here to something I like hail satan
@Payne2view
2 жыл бұрын
If worship of God became a "live music genre" then it deserves to go away and leave people to worship God again. If people are touring as featured guitarists in a "worsihp band" and are associated with Bethell and Elevation, that is not praise or worship of God.
@TooPunkToBeAPodcast
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I'm not christian at all. But if you have a whole pedalboard at church then your doing it to act like you have an actual gig in your pathetic life of a failed musician and it has nothing to do with god
@Payne2view
2 жыл бұрын
@@TooPunkToBeAPodcast Well, there you go. Non-Christians know it is people treating it as a gig, not a worship service. I play (or did before covid rules) guitar at my church but it is an acoustic and only to acompany the singing, not dominate the singing and certainly not to pull focus off who the songs are about.
@TooPunkToBeAPodcast
2 жыл бұрын
I grew up going to church. When I did it was a lady whole played acoustic to sing as you said. I couldn't imagine someone rolling in with a whole pedalboard. That seems ridiculous.
@tonytaylor5087
2 жыл бұрын
What about Benson Amps being the next thing? They’ve sky rocketed.
@RylandRay
2 жыл бұрын
David hilslop's board is awesome but exactly what you described lol
@TheAlexRosas
2 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention everyone in PW lusting after and playing a veritas… 🐑
@jackattak1209
2 жыл бұрын
My church is completely Acapella, so I had no idea about the praise and worship stereotype, which is now apparently dead 😂. I feel like I'm learning so much
@aaholcombe
Жыл бұрын
I still play Ovations 😉
@jw152
2 жыл бұрын
I went helix with a couple pedals. This happened after my big sky and some pedals were stolen. So, I don’t know what that says about me. Maybe I just gave up on life? 🤷♂️ 😂
@bluzzjazz
2 жыл бұрын
Ha, meant Mad Professor Bluebird...Ego is Wampler!
@chronicmango
2 жыл бұрын
Lambertones, dude. Lambertones are the "gotta have it" thing right now.
@paulmatulevich3623
2 жыл бұрын
Shipping a thousand Azores is enough to make anyone crazy
@ryangunwitch-black
2 жыл бұрын
100 watt Fender Twin, a TS9 and a Strat. Bigger room? Two Twins.
@Ra-gv6lx
2 жыл бұрын
Make a edit Ryan themed guitar instead of animal's, awesome podcast as well 👍
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