If a man runs into your burning house, and saves you and you family form the fire, but later while you are recovering, goes back into your house and steals all your possessions, is he a hero or a thief. This is how I fell about anyone who has served in the ANC in the upper positions for the last 30 years. They are not heroes, they are self serving thieves, who will all get state funerals for their early activists roles.
@NirmalaMoodley-h2l
5 күн бұрын
Yre an exceptional himan being Sizwe ,when saying you have no intention of speaking evil of the dead. No one is a saint ,one chooses to live a saintly life, that was Pravin GordhanRIP Ayeye .
@mvubu6823
5 күн бұрын
He is a hero in very many ways. Unfortunately he was surrounded by absolute criminals. In 2007 I was at a big event with business and government just after Mbeki was booted. All the minister types arrived in this smaller town on the GUPTA'S planes. Essop Pahad and a bunch more. They were all cuddled up to those 3 little toads. Pravin was the ONLY ONE who flew commercial and had a local driver fetch him. The only ones howling, that I can, see are the hyenas.
@_SMWX
5 күн бұрын
That’s a cool story thanks.
@ja5239ghhhjj
5 күн бұрын
I had a lot of respect for him. RIP 🕊️
@realdudevision2746
4 күн бұрын
Oh, what a breath of fresh air.
@julienicks8691
4 күн бұрын
At least Gordon is finally resting and not being maligned falsely by that malema, now he found someone else to blame falsely.. Naledi Pandor.... Don't suck it in with an apology, take him to the cleaners.
@vusibiyela6032
5 күн бұрын
Pravin Gordhan is the only minister to have said "Not all corruption is criminal". He clearly said it knowing he is hiding corruption
@bongimbuli7853
4 күн бұрын
He ruined state owned enterprises.
@biko8229
4 күн бұрын
That statement says a lot about the man
@nosizongcamu7128
4 күн бұрын
Izwani nje busy justifying his nonsense. And he must be hailed as a hero? Mcim suka! Isigebengu esinengila esingenamahloni. 🚮
@sithembisochibi3772
4 күн бұрын
Ayeye ✌️ Well balanced analysis and your demeanour befits the stature the late was. May his soul rest in peace. 🕊️
@PHELELANINDABA
2 күн бұрын
You are undoubtedly one of the good and fair narrators/analysts at the moment
@makimomoo
4 күн бұрын
You have done a very good job with this episode. When money is involved politics can get very very messy. The challenge is to do your best in the interest of the country and keep your nose clean. Most can’t.
@ncebahinana3856
5 күн бұрын
Sizwe, do please make documentary about the late Pravin Gordhan ‘s implications in O’Mailey Cabal Decuments as ANC Leader released. How did he(PG) was chronologically fingered as the main leader of Canal? Lastly, why ANC did not took decisive actions to stop the Cabal?
@balamudaly400
4 күн бұрын
A searching, thoughtful and balanced account of Gordan's legacy. You and others like you are the hope for SA's future.
@jameskillu9171
4 күн бұрын
ZUMA is a good man who did good to all. but people like Gordon betrayed him.Gordon was a traitor,
@PetronelaMahlangu
4 күн бұрын
Thank you Dr. for the perspective. Your platform is very helpful. Mpofu.
@Progenitor1979
5 күн бұрын
The dude was an British agent, what specific agency I can't say but was an active agent of a foreign power and an enemy of a sovereign black led South Africa.
@oneeinbenoni
4 күн бұрын
And you have proof of this Gadaffi ??? lol
@katlegosepotokele3501
5 күн бұрын
SAA TAKATSO DEAL GIVES YOU A WINDOW INTO HOW CRIINAL THAT GUY WAS!
@zamagcabashe7502
4 күн бұрын
To some of us who were heavily affected by all that he did 'can't even say his name without tears streaming down'... he took diabolical decisions which affected so many lives💔 from a black single parent who got retrenched and still unfairly treated even when some doors are starting to open. We will never forget, yes he was human, but wow.
@nosizongcamu7128
4 күн бұрын
I emphathise and can relate with you. What a rubbish character he displayed in so many ways. He is no hero.
@hemantvallabh1532
4 күн бұрын
Dear Sizwe, both you and JJ forget to make mention of the destruction of the SOE'S under the likes of Dudu, and Brian, while Zuma was holding hands with the Gupta's
@NirmalaMoodley-h2l
5 күн бұрын
Great 👍 reflection dear Sizwe on SMWX platform, the life of Pravin Gordhan and realising Mahatma Gandhi , his Life and time in SA . Great influence to the liberation struggles and activism indeed . Former president Zuma brought Pravin Gordhan to the forefront as Minister of Finance and therafter assumed many a portfolio, sevred with astute intelligence and resilience for righteousness in SA. God Bless SMWX ayeye ❤
@iMet-Q
4 күн бұрын
Big difference between a righteous man and a self-righteous man,Pravin was experienced and will forever be viewed differently by different people. He did his part,for better to others and to the detriment of others. Ayeye❤
@tebogomabusela7936
4 күн бұрын
To your questions to the President and the late minister, Cyril said he knew and was faced with options to challenge early and be sidelines or lay low, fight where could. His posture is that if he was more outspoken and resistant than he already was, he would be quickly squashed and removed only to be left with room to fight hence they noted whats was going wrong and navigated it cautiously intently knowing that the dominance would come to an end and the wrongdoing would be revealed and punished. He said all this at his Zondo commission hearing as to why served in a Cabinet he now wants to deem as corrupt and wasted years. Just thought to share this cause I had the same question. I get it but I haven’t let them off the hook. They’re getting away too easy by and it’s basically self-preservation. Their corruption busting was also not that eff effective, consistent or fair.
@mayandesai3714
5 күн бұрын
The lack of succession planning in the ANC is why Gordhan was still compelled to stay in Government for as long as he did
@MBReader410
4 күн бұрын
Thanks for a well balanced commentary. I think you could have looked more closely at the poor state of SOEs by the time PG became Public Works minister.
@gugulethusibiya957
4 күн бұрын
...All of us as humans we're imperfect, we all have limitations and all humans have two sides, generally we've good & bad side...But Pravin was a very clever crook...may his soul RIP...
@boitumelosetlogelo9527
5 күн бұрын
Respectfully done
@hemantvallabh1532
4 күн бұрын
To accredit the lack of reconstitution of the SOE'S by Pravin, in naively shortsighted
@siphilangayematsenjwa2171
5 күн бұрын
Remember JZ strength was usage of Intelligencia...PGs trip to London speaks volume, hence the Intelligence Report. He was working hard in compromising JZ.
@mvubu6823
5 күн бұрын
You mean made-up fake reports? He is an expert in chaos.
@DigsWigs2022
4 күн бұрын
I watched with keen interest on what your analysis will say is the big 'mistakes' Gordhan did. Appointing a wrong person for a CEO job was such a normal 'mistake'. Yes, dire consequences - but there are plenty CEOs who never fulfil their appointment mandate. Especially in govt. We never hold the ministers accountable for those CEOs. Secondly, because of the apparent lack of performance in rescuing public enterprises he is being unjustly equated to the thieves who actually stole. Problems in public enterprises preceded Gordhan. I think that so far I have not heard any valid argument that takes away from the gigantic contribution of this freedom fighter. He stood firm under the worst onslaught for principle and thieves who were looting.
@williemaphosa3745
4 күн бұрын
Agree, also the generalization that the "media" accorded him a hero status without mentioning his failures is a red herring. As an academic Sizwe must at least those media houses that he accuses of this. Media is not monolithic
@jack69457
5 күн бұрын
There should be a part 2 which shouldn't be apologetic.
@BroderickMilton-dv2sp
4 күн бұрын
Thanks for your nuanced handling of this complex issues
@thusoboshielo4958
Күн бұрын
In the end he became what he was fighting against initially.
@jameskillu9171
4 күн бұрын
Pravin replaced the Guptas, selling SAA and refusIng to disclose to parliament. He allowed corruption for cadres in Eskom. load shedding was pravin dirty business ending when a new minister was appointed.
@ngwzi5229
4 күн бұрын
Sizwe, next time you have such an episode, please consider making it explicitly clear that this is not an analysis of him as a person, a parent, or his personal life but that of his professional life. Also, litter this Proclamation all over the episode, particularly because he is recently deceased and it might be taken the wrong way.
@nosizongcamu7128
4 күн бұрын
Hhayi no. He highlighted that he is discussing him as a public figure. He did not mention anything about his private life. He remained diplomatic and respectful throughout the episode. He even deliberately left out a lot of key unsavoury information about his public life! Public figures know what they are signing up for. Live by the spear and die by the spear. It is their duty to prepare their families, not ours (public).
@ngwzi5229
3 күн бұрын
I agree but because he is recently deceased. I thought labouring this fact is a good idea. That is why I suggested it as a consideration
@eneamotaung1493
4 күн бұрын
Hi! Sizwe, the problem with politicians and eventually as Government officials or figures is that they never know when to retire not to become old in both political and Government life. The issue is that after 70years they start making mistakes or take decisions that are not popular either through party lines or influence. Many due to political and/or party decisions you become unpopular. But also to enjoy their retirement but can still play a pivotal role as an elder who can mentor the young politicians. So I feel sorry for him when you hear not so good talk about him. May His Soul Rest in Peace. He did his part. EM. Johannesburg Gauteng Province. 🙏✊
@nkanyezingobese9536
3 күн бұрын
Like most reasonable people, I'm disappointed in Minister Gordhan's disastrous overseeing of the SOCs, especially as I believe the SOCs are one of the most important cogs in our developmental efforts. Now, the ANC overall, including during Gordhan's tenure has botched the opportunity brought by parastatals to develop a country like ours. All of it being said, I view PG's contribution to our nation in a positive light. Let's not mince words here, he's hated by some quarters in our nation as a result of him campaigning against President Zuma when he, a lot of us and large section in the ANC believed that administration had veered too far off the developmental path. That itself was courage that needs to be lauded. Together with his time at SARS, and notable contributions during the struggle, I find all of it exemplary and could only wish every deployee into the political sphere had that dedication and integrity, even when they get things horribly wrong during their service. We can do with a cadre that tries. May Mr. Gordhan rest in peace.
@KidsPlasticResources9011
5 күн бұрын
I understand your diplomaticity. Dr Sizwe, because you are a public figure. I will comment after those who were affected by his conduct, I want to hear those who knows him not on his ranking position.
@rock882josh7
4 күн бұрын
Mpofu once asked Pravin if he had any actual proof of state capture..he said "no"
@nosizongcamu7128
4 күн бұрын
Yes, admitted that the whole commission was establushed based on a rumour and no evidence! And he was allowed! Nonsense!
@junebelligab2990
5 күн бұрын
He left a bad legacy with Eskom... and not able to enjoy his retirement. Wonder how he feels about things now in the afterlife...
@thulanikhumalo5395
3 күн бұрын
Arrogance of this man was stinking he thought he was beyond reproach. He was hero to his imperialist friends and a vilian to the poor people and working class.
@izindabaezinhle-mbi9653
4 күн бұрын
Thank you Mpofu emnyama this is a well balanced view. I thought you were going to echo the sentiments of EFF
@thabok5819
4 күн бұрын
Jamnandas was never for the poor specifically.. collectively the Indian congress fought against apartheid with the ANC for political freedom..not necessarily for the poor but against apartheid..so credit is given where it's due..ZA will mourn him.. not the poor
@davidscrooby2461
4 күн бұрын
SMWX thank you for a well articulated account of Pravin's life and the history of the NIC, UDF & ANC. In a few dealings with the Department of Public Enterprises, I found them strange. A successful CSARS & Minister of Finance was not able to steer DPE which had the task of running the SOEs. There were many DGs.
@georgethabethe4265
5 күн бұрын
He sold SAA for R51what more to say
@mvubu6823
5 күн бұрын
he sold it when it should have been drowned in a bucket behind parliament 10 years before. A looting scheme disguised as an airline, led by that poisonous Myeni and her pals, skimming off every contract. Governments that don't own oil wells, shouldn't own airlines. No rich, first world countries do and we have NO business doing the same.
@realdudevision2746
5 күн бұрын
If the asset is sold with its debt, then maybe R51 is an appropriate price.
@mvubu6823
5 күн бұрын
It wasn't worth R1
@realdudevision2746
4 күн бұрын
@mvubu6823 I don't know😄 2022 AFS says SAA had R8 billion in assets and R9 billion in loans. They had R2 billion in income and R5 billion on expenses. Gov can save R3 Billion a year in losses by selling SAA for R 0.00 😋
@mvubu6823
4 күн бұрын
@@realdudevision2746 and the write offs, write downs, taxpayer conversions from loans to equity over the last 20 years. BILLIONS IN LOSES... BILLIONS.
@silkysilky7955
3 күн бұрын
No doubt Gordhan took too long (like Ramaphosa) to be critical of their corrupt comrades within the ANC. Hence Gordhan said that some of the comrades will have to be allowed to make a buck ( asif its a necessary evil). This is where activists and politicians like him are compromised. He did not steal but he turned a blind eye when some of his comrades were stealing. This in my view is wrong.
@tumibaloyi2915
4 күн бұрын
1... 2... 3...or 4. They too were involved. Maybe from a different faction but the goal was the same.
@julienicks8691
4 күн бұрын
I wonder if anyone will have good things to say about corrupt Zuma and your father who defends all the crooks???
@theonly6359
4 күн бұрын
Hi father is an advocate, what do you expect him to do??
@ncebahinana3856
4 күн бұрын
At least ANC SG Fikile Mbalula threatened to push him out as Minister of Public Enterprise. But was reprimanded by ANC leaders to retract the threat.
@twayneZAR
4 күн бұрын
Agreed with everything you said until you got to part 3 - SOEs in part have turned around - seems like a fight more against CR than it is about fair analysis
@RatieM64
4 күн бұрын
Yep, in all of humanity, there is something good and that little dot of bad and the reverse is true. It is however, important to note that indeed the Parastatals came into complete collapse under the hand of Pravin. The SAA was almost sold for R53.00 after bailing it out with millions and millions of PIC funds. Transnet collapsed completely under him and Mbalula and Ramaphosa. We as commuters who dependent on trains have felt it the most. I cannot even begin to say it was a question of mismanaging these institutions, it was a concerted effort to prepare these institutions for privatisation. May his soul rest in perfect peace though. I have said my peace and take on this matter.
@tumibaloyi2915
4 күн бұрын
I know you said "underwhelming" but I think you meant to say DISMAL.
@tonymangion6413
4 күн бұрын
As skelim as the rest of a n c gangsters
@williemaphosa3745
4 күн бұрын
You have tried to present a balanced account I agree, but not entirely. I take issue with your claim that the media has panted a hero status on Gordhan, for example. It is a thoughtless over generalization. Media is not monolithic. I know of many media houses, programs and articles that have tried to present a balanced account like you try to do.
@bongagustavmtshali1104
4 күн бұрын
Zuma reshuffled him bcos of dodgy dealings overseas with nene
@bongimbuli7853
4 күн бұрын
I was amusing Mr Gordan was from Western Cape he's from KZN.
@BooysensTV
5 күн бұрын
Spread the tsyisanyama😂❤
@sihle6904
5 күн бұрын
I disagree with you in mostly topics but this was a great analysis. Ur a critical thinker
@thenyloncurtain
4 күн бұрын
❤🙌🌍❤️❤️❤️🇿🇦
@surenmoodley806
4 күн бұрын
good effort to capture his life story
@sonora_rey
4 күн бұрын
He was corrupt
@silkysilky7955
3 күн бұрын
Andre de Ruyter was useless.
@kubensubramoney5030
4 күн бұрын
Youre a poor Journalist Sizwe, Your are required to be neutral and fair far from what you are. Your description of Gordhan life isnt fair. I Wish jounalist had more integrity. You have freedom because of this man and many others.
@rethabilemoloi3490
4 күн бұрын
Useless and a waste of space.
@ColinAckers-t9v
4 күн бұрын
What does this youngster know? Just creating content to gain recognition
@BooysensTV
5 күн бұрын
Hosh! Kom die Nomber duidelik! The SACP defended him and he still didn't make any contribution to a Socialist transformer. MasePoes! 3:53
@mvubu6823
5 күн бұрын
what is a socialist transformer? He oversaw the revolution of SARS that increased tax income, trust and compliance exponentially. Considering socialists have only OTHER PEOPLES MONEY to spend, there is no greater accomplishment. Your great "socialist leaders" are the ones who have broken the state's capacity. No business brains, mass wage bills with no production or skills, looting by top management connected to the "cadres". There is your socialist report card.
@mthunzivictorgagela3581
4 күн бұрын
It is so appalling that his daughters took a centre stage that he was victimized. Both together with Cyril Ramaphosa and Mac Maharaj lied about the narration the state capture and victimization on Gordhan.ANC is in crisis due to both Ramaposa and Gordhan.
@musa-p5b
4 күн бұрын
There is no better analysis than this, He was not a saint, only human.Sizwe U are the best.
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