Him being in the movie instead of the dead mountain men is prolly the one thing I would change. That or the Gondorian soldiers not being idiots at fighting
@TANKTheImmortal
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think they were idiots. Take osgiliath for example, they held out through the entire night against a force that far outnumbered them, fighting for hours and hours till daylight and only being forced to retreat when the nazgul showed up. And at minas tirith they fought and fought against a force that was massive and far exceeded their own forces. A testament to their training and dedication. No real life force could've ever held out against those odds, would've been crushed in a couple hours at osgiliath. only time I feel they were idiots was shooting arrows at the drive towers and not the trolls.
@rhysoverbeck5251
4 жыл бұрын
Tank_the_Immortal I mean like actual screen presence, when you look at Gondor battle footage, like 8/10 chance it’s a gondorian getting killed by an orc. But they were good for holding as long as they did
@kathleenhensley5951
4 жыл бұрын
The dead mountain scenes were way too bloated. and that downpour of skulls was just silly.
@josephgomez2249
4 жыл бұрын
Right! Compare the Gondor soldier fighting and dying to Boromirs death scene. Both are soldiers fighting against overwhelming odds and dying after putting up a fight. Except the Gondor soldiers death’s only look miserable. You aren’t left with the impression that they were capable men, though they were.
@mattlien5844
3 жыл бұрын
I would change two things:The relationship between Aragorn, Arwen and Elrond. One of the most important in the book, the movie ruins it. And most importantly, Orlando Bloom on a skateboard. That alone almost ruins the movies for me.
@NOIDEAIWILLJUSTUSEHAILEYIGUESS
4 жыл бұрын
Prince Imrahil was such an under-rated character, Loved how important he was in the battles of the Pelennor, and how bravely he stood at the black gates, putting himself on the frontlines, all while not losing too many knights, showing off the skill and valour the knights still had.
@MenoftheWest
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, he was a hero of Gondor, and I hope more people learn about him!
@genghisgalahad8465
3 жыл бұрын
@@MenoftheWest I should like to paste my comment from HotA: I have decided in Ent-fashion that Prince Imrahil is now my favorite newly discovered obscure character in Middle Earth, from all Ages, at this time. Being a relatively hidden character for some until now. His unassuming heroism is to be commended! To the lately recognized heroes of Middle Earth! Since I had finished this video and not having my wits about me, began the HotA video (yet unfinished) and commented this!
@lughiee
Жыл бұрын
Hi Hailey
@NOIDEAIWILLJUSTUSEHAILEYIGUESS
Жыл бұрын
@@lughiee Hey Lugh, funny seeing you here. :D
@OpenMeyendid
Жыл бұрын
Do you provide transcripts for your videos? Great quotes and speaking. Thanks
@orrointhewise87
4 жыл бұрын
"Ride! Ride for ruin and the worlds ending!!!" I get why they were left out of the film, but maaaaaaaaan would they have been awesome to see riding in from the south to help in the battle for Minas Tirith. I always get pleasantly surprised when I read the books and realize OH RIGHT! These guys!!! 😂
@Revenix
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I would have loved to see the great Swan Knights ride out of the gate!
@NOIDEAIWILLJUSTUSEHAILEYIGUESS
4 жыл бұрын
I agree, the Swan-Knights riding out of the gates to save the day is one of my favorite moments, you know its serious then the most elite knights of Gondor ride out of those gates.
@muz9663
2 жыл бұрын
@@NOIDEAIWILLJUSTUSEHAILEYIGUESS I love PJ for actually having the battle take place within Minas Tirith unlike the books where none enter except the witch king. It would've been cool seeing the swan knights behind the gate instead of the average soldier, which would've been great for introducing or developing Prince Imrahil as a character.
@nutyyyy
Жыл бұрын
@muz9663 Yes, that would be a good way to include them. Maybe a simple cameo.
@shadowofchaos8932
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how powerful the navy at Dol Amroth added in the realm of Gondor. The Swan ships of Dol Amroth are said to be Grand in craftsmanship. Great video.
@NOIDEAIWILLJUSTUSEHAILEYIGUESS
4 жыл бұрын
Its likely that they were quite powerful, the corsairs, even with umbar and pelargir, were about equal in strength with the forces left to defend western gondor. after the war, with pelargir going back into gondor's posession, its likely the Prince Imrahil commanded one of the most fearsome naval powers.
@SantomPh
4 жыл бұрын
Gondor's navy was headquarted at Pelargir with the command given to the Lord of Ships. However during the Kin-strife led by Castamir most of the navy sided with the rebel prince,who was its commander. His sons fled to Umbar, weakening the navy. Gondor never became a naval power again, at least to rival Umbar -they could still support Arnor later- and Aragorn's brave foray into Umbar as Thorongil later was one of the few times Gondor sailed to war after the Kin Strife. The swan ships are not war galleys like the ships of the Corsairs.
@HistoryoftheAges
4 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite characters! Always wish he was included in the movies!
@deathraven7314
3 жыл бұрын
Technically he was
@TheAngryHappyMaskSalesman
2 жыл бұрын
He was actually. But not mentioned directly. Watch The Return of the King and watch out for a long blond haired guard who appears often in the Minas Tirith scenes. He's the one.
@GamingTremor
4 жыл бұрын
The most unfortunate exclusion in the movies, even more than Tom Bombadiil in my opinion!
@kathleenhensley5951
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it is for the best that Jackson didn't try to portray Tom Bombadil? Tom can seem absurd until you read further and realize how very strange he is... He is a very, very special character .. The ONE ring didn't have any power over him? He was first. He fell in love with the river's daughter? what i mean ... look how Radagast was treated.. Jackson made him a buffoon. All we know is he loves animals, was a herbalist, doesn't much involve himself with mankind and is an Angel incarnate like Gandalf... (a Maia)
@timonsolus
4 жыл бұрын
Kathleen Hensley : I think Peter Jackson brought many aspects of Tom Bombadil’s character into Radagast - since the personality of Radagast was extremely vague and virtually unknown in the books. We have only Saruman’s description of Radagast, and that is very biased against him, and therefore unreliable.
@chefitaly7339
3 жыл бұрын
And erkenbrand
@just_cade
3 жыл бұрын
The saddest exclusion is Glorfindel in my opinion.
@muz9663
2 жыл бұрын
@@kathleenhensley5951 I think PJ would've still made Tom Bombadil a really strange and interesting character. I don't think he had enough time to include him and make the story even more complex. PJ would've definitely showed Tom holding the ring and having no effect, that would've caused a great deal of confusion among the audience, plus he would've likely been discarded in the later movies anyways.
@r.blakehole932
4 жыл бұрын
I as well missed Imrahil in the movies. But, in the defense of Peter Jackson, in the movies creating a memorable and worthy character is much more difficult and time consuming than it is in books. So, they have to cut down from what is in the books in order to have the time the time necessary for the most central characters.
@AnnaMarianne
4 жыл бұрын
Frankly, they also wasted time here anf there. They could have left out or at least shortened certain action scenes to squeeze in more time for side character development. Now Gondor as a country and a people was left criminally underdeveloped.
@valentinom.4292
3 жыл бұрын
@@AnnaMarianne You see, they also had a massive budget to pay. I don't really think a movie with barely any action scenes would sell like the trilogy did. I would love it tho.
@genghisgalahad8465
3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a stream series surrounding Gondor would flesh out the Heroes/Lords of Gondor!
@Will.Flavell
2 жыл бұрын
If Prince Imrahil was in the movie I would think Gary Oldman would have been be a good choice to play him.
@hydroknight8612
4 жыл бұрын
He's done it again folks! 👏👏👏 Seriously Thank you for keeping the lore fresh and new with every video. Good job my man 👍👍
@Revenix
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah! He is awesome!
@johnpatricktan5545
4 жыл бұрын
I feel sad that they left him out of the movies
@zakfett92
4 жыл бұрын
I thought he was that blonde guy that brought Faramir to Denethor...
@imi_212
4 жыл бұрын
zakfett92 I think that that was a cheap version of Beregrond tho he doesn’t act even a litte bit like him.
@AndrewMRoots
4 жыл бұрын
@@zakfett92 That guy's name is Irolas
@zakfett92
4 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewMRoots Who the hell is that?
@AndrewMRoots
4 жыл бұрын
@@zakfett92 The blonde guy you mentioned, his name is Irolas, maybe I should've been more clear
@MrDuck797
4 жыл бұрын
So sad Imrahil wasn’t in the films. I really liked him in the book
@DanielDtravis11
4 жыл бұрын
Top 10 favorite character of mine. As a teen I was bummed that he didn't make it into the movies.
@thehighguarduk4820
3 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic character. I did not know Prince Imrahil had saved both Faramir and Eowyn, two of my favourite characters. Which raise Prince Imrahil even higher in my good opinion of him. Awesome video really well told and explained. Nicely done!
@Matky321
Жыл бұрын
Prince Imrahil is one of my favorite characters in the LOTR trilogy. He represents not only the full might of Gondor cavalry but the wisdom of the West. He is the character that made the difference, not just in defending Minas Thirith, but defending Faramir, crying: "Dol Amroth for Gondor! Dol Amroth for Faramir". Just imagine 700 full-armored knights charging against the Nazgul. EPIC!!! Not the mention, he is a healer and general and, unlike Denethor, immediately accepts Aragorn as King Elessar. As for the LOTR movie trilogy, since there was no Tom Bombadil, Elladan& Elrohir, there was just no point in putting him in the movie. Big shame, but still, Tolkien fans will always know the immense value of Dol Amroth ;)
@DaPenguin
4 жыл бұрын
Imrahil has been my favorite character in the books for as long as I can remember. Thank you for doing a video on him!
@mahmudurzakaria9217
4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Finally. Been waiting for this for so long. Thanks Yusten.
@mahmudurzakaria9217
4 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for Imrahil, the Knights of the Mark probably would've buried Eowyn alive.
@matthewmckendree305
4 жыл бұрын
It’s been awhile without Gondor, good to see you back my friend.
@KaustubhVarshneyPnpl
4 жыл бұрын
He was absolutely one of the most important captains in the war, as much as Faramir and Eomer in my opinion, but he felt even greater and braver and more steadfast to me.
@pbell4660
4 жыл бұрын
It's disappointing how so many characters and scenes were discarded to make space for videogame battles and made-up drama. Not only the usual Tom Bombadil, or the magic battle against fell wolves, or my boy Ghân-buri-Ghân, but also that scene were Pippin watches the bannermen from all over Gondor come to Minas Tirith before the battle even if they're not nearly enough to make a difference, until Imrahil comes with his elvish-like army playing a flute as nothing bad was about to happen, and people rejoice. (more or less, can't recall all details) You own me those goosebumps, Philippa Whatshername.
@arisan4480
4 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the best character in all of Middle Earth’s Third Age. Great video, as always. Now I’ll spend the rest of my day thinking about the Amrothian knights’s shining helmets and mighty steeds !
@Arcflo
4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are the best thank you!
@MenoftheWest
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that means a lot! And thanks for watching!
@Revenix
4 жыл бұрын
Do you think maybe you could do a video covering some of the family trees? Also love your videos! ❤️
@dodgykingdom7502
4 жыл бұрын
Great captain of men.
@celestejohnston6613
4 жыл бұрын
Yoystan! Wonderful video! The exclusion of Prince Imrahil and the Swan Knights is possibly the biggest error in PJ's ROTK. With the exception of Eomer finding Eowyn on the battlefield which always manages to rip my heart out every time. Prince Imrahil's actions would have made a great movie that much greater!! It is a great shame they were not there!
@rook1513
3 жыл бұрын
Something I've noticed in many modern movies is that characters appear out of nowhere without a lot of set up; one nice and tight package. This is something encouraged in modern writing and by professional writers. Prince Imrahil demonstrates the huge and realistic world Professor Tolkien created. Before his marching to Minas Tirith, the reader has no idea who this is. (The southern territories are vaguely hinted at; and Legolas tells the family legend of the history of Dol Amroth.) Prince Imrahil and his knights lent a realism; that there were more people and places. The Knights of Dol Amroth allowed the Professor to include the pure-hearted, shiny Galahad type. This role could not have been filled by any of the people whom we had met (except elves) Gondor was too sullied by war and Arnor lived in the forest. It was through the Knights of Dol Amroth, LOTR possessed the paragon of European chivalry., This is one man's opinion.
@unclejoe7466
4 жыл бұрын
Great spotlight on Imrahil. I like that he had a small role in the story. Maybe because any more focus on him would have required flaws to give him complexity, and I like that he is basically flawless (except, perhaps, for his pride).
@morgandavid6908
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this story. I was not aware or remembered the lineage of this character. I have probably read Lord of the Rings a dozen times. But i always seem to learn something new listening to your stories. As always, thank you for your time and efforts.
@vincentdamienarneo369
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a vid on imrahil he also one of my favorite book characters
@thedreadtyger
4 жыл бұрын
This is wondrous indeed! He is a truly magnificent character, little known but well loved by those who do.
@yourseatatthetable
4 жыл бұрын
Even though Prince Imrahil's role was limited it played a very important part in that he was the first high ranking Gondorian to openly acknowledge Aragorn's claim and bloodline. As kin of the Steward, and with both of Denthor's son's killed or incapacitated Imrahil could have easily laid claim as the next Steward. From a political position, Imrahil noting Aragorn was a king, fulfilling the ancient proficiency, greatly legitimizes Aragorn. I believe the character also serves another role, one that shows that the blood of Numenor was not spent in Gondor, even in this late age. Imrahil and many of his men give us a window into what Gondor must have looked like in it's prime, and what it might again look like in the Fourth age.
@DanTheYoutubeAddict
4 жыл бұрын
He is a minor but important and noble character. Thank you for covering him.
@beaumagoffin7397
4 жыл бұрын
I really love your content, and i have an idea for your who would win series, the Dwarves of Khazad dum versus the Dwarves of Erebor
@Steel-101
4 жыл бұрын
All right a new Men of the West video!!!! Thanks for the entertainment man God bless and stay safe. Hey I may have an idea 💡 for a video. Why didn’t Frodo ever get married and have children? That question could apply to both Frodo and Bilbo. I’ve always wondered why.
@SantomPh
4 жыл бұрын
The Baggins are both famous bachelors who lived alone in Bag End, seemingly caring little for making families . Frodo is 50 in the book at the start, meaning that like Bilbo he kept single in anticipation of Gandalf returning. In Frodo's case he was wounded 3 times with traumatic events that sapped his enjoyment of life. The Morgul blade, Shelob's sting and Gollum's biting off his finger made him almost hollow. Even in Lothlorien all Frodo got was warnings of the future and peril instead of comfort. In short Frodo was miserable and could never enjoy anything, unlike Sam who got married, planted a mallorn tree and started a blonde family and became the Mayor.
@chefitaly7339
4 жыл бұрын
He is such a noble and oft overlooked hero
@blakej5444
4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Big fan, I noticed you don't have an Epic Character History on Saruman. I would very much like to see such a video.
@himerosTheGod
2 жыл бұрын
I can hear my mother screaming at our tv now as we watched LOTR “This was the days of real men”!!
@TheBLRBear
4 жыл бұрын
Great video as expected! Thanks for taking the time to give us the back story to a great character, it was greatly enjoyed by me, and many others alike :) I do believe he is featured in the movie though. When Faramir is brought before Denethor on a stretcher, the man without the helmet that says that he is still alive is supposed to be Imrahil, although somebody should and surely will correct me if i am mistaken, as that could be one of the captains of the Steward as well :)
@imi_212
4 жыл бұрын
YES FINALLY Imrahil is my favo characters from Tolkien his legendarium. Thank you 🙏
@loremaster234
4 жыл бұрын
So far, 1.1k likes vs 7 dislikes. Just shows you how well received this channel is, and rightfully so. Keep going brother and God bless!
@t.c.thompson2359
Жыл бұрын
Whenever they adapt the series again, which they will inevitably do, it should be in a miniseries format so they can include a lot more book material and characters, like Imrahil.
@unlimitedperseverance1706
4 жыл бұрын
Great videos
@srimadhumithra2330
4 жыл бұрын
Prince Imrahil of the Dol Amroth. He should have been in the movies. His character was one of the most important ones! Like always, Great Video, Mellon!
@imi_212
4 жыл бұрын
I always thought you became less active for a reason. But the men of the west is back !!!
@ErelasInglor
4 жыл бұрын
One of the characters that I feel Tolkien may have expanded upon with a lineage and story of that realm of Gondor, perhaps even a short side-story of Imrahil's deeds as a youth.
@idkwhattomakemyname101
4 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine how lit it would be if they started an animated TV show about the Tolkien books fashioned the same way as the Star Wars clone wars TV show
@designtechdk
4 жыл бұрын
There probably isn't a lot about it, but I would love to hear more about Éomer and Lothíriel! :) I also love the part where Eomer discovers Eowyn in the books. He basically rides off to die, filled with the grief of the supposed death of his sister.
@jankaiglarova7917
4 жыл бұрын
Epic video! 😍✨👑 Love it so much. Hannon le for making it.
@joshuapaulson9116
4 жыл бұрын
I really wish this character had been represented in The Return of the King.
@GreenHavoc
2 жыл бұрын
Great topic! Never knew about this character before and was cool to learn
@krazykreaper504
4 жыл бұрын
You should do a full, unabridged history of middle earth, by editing parts of different videos together.
@breannadavis4726
2 жыл бұрын
Love that idea!!
@JonathonSwinney2814
4 жыл бұрын
I love Prince Imrahil! He's one of my favorite of the race of man
@MemoryTroll
4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Love it, man! 👍
@ERIC-lw2yl
4 жыл бұрын
Just realized something after watching LOTR for like the millionth time.. how come Gollum’s aging never caught up with him like how bilbos aging did when they both lost possession of the ring?
@mohamadmusavi3097
3 жыл бұрын
i love your work well done
@michaelheatherwall2495
2 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite characters and as is said one that is underrated but of great importance as is seen by Legolas’s greeting to him.
@mountainboinaps6471
4 жыл бұрын
this is such a good one, i wish he was in the stories more
@JohnOdd
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting I never knew of this character :)
@azipoor3468
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Yoystan it was awesome...by the way Tolkien had an essay called on fairy-stories which now is in a small book I'm not sure...could you make a video about it please?
@1987phillybilly
4 жыл бұрын
This was GREAT and l am sooooo sad the movies never gave him credit
@quickclipsart1028
4 жыл бұрын
I feel that his mixture of elf AND numenorian blood would have at least given him 200 years of age.
@gm2407
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it was heavily diluted over generarions. It is also not Maia blood mixed in for good measure.
@PrinceOfDolAlmroth
4 жыл бұрын
Easily my favorite character in the legendarium!
@gregdingel
4 жыл бұрын
Great character history, thanks!
@DamonNomad82
4 жыл бұрын
I think that if Faramir had died, Prince Imrahil would have been the natural choice to be the next Steward of Gondor.
@isaiahsullivan7199
4 жыл бұрын
I love you guys. I really hope Amazon comes out with that show because I really want to see the second age on the big screen
@HyperGlameow
4 жыл бұрын
Such a cool character
@charlesrichards8132
3 жыл бұрын
That was a good one !
@alexlegoboy3513
Жыл бұрын
From what I've heard here I can only say it is a huge shame that we didn't get to see him in the films he would have been a good character to see helping fight against sauron.
@ketanhein
2 жыл бұрын
I wish they had included him in the movies, even just a passing reference.
@janetchennault4385
4 жыл бұрын
It sounds to me as if the story of Imrazore and Mithrilas would be a great topic for the upcoming Amazon series. It also prompts me to ask, "How many other such crossings of humans and other-kind are there in the legendarium?"
@scarecrow2097
4 жыл бұрын
3:20 these are actually high elf silver helms from Warhammer but they fit the swan knight esthetic indeed
@history1099
3 жыл бұрын
My favorite character!
@knightonart8886
4 жыл бұрын
Middle Earth is way better than real earth. Wish I could go to the shire and chill at the Green Dragon, or wander through the Woody End in early autumn, heading for Buckland.
@HomerSimpson-gr1uj
Жыл бұрын
I can see where boromir and faramir got their strength from.
@popeye8314
4 жыл бұрын
How did Aragorn and Imrahil did not meet earlier, when Aragorn went to Umbar or some other moment when he was still traveling all across the land.
@kevincarter4782
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of Imrahil, such a great character that is omitted from common knowledge!
@danieldossantos5868
4 жыл бұрын
Where do find these pictures?
@andrewrobertson3894
3 жыл бұрын
Any chance of you doing a video about Tevildo and his cronies? Not sure if there is much lore surrounding him. Cheers!
@wes9959
4 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on the Barrow wights!
@gilanbarona9814
4 жыл бұрын
Tolkien valued the small and lesser known as much as he told the stories of the great and well known. While Aragorn and company fought the great battles, was it not a pair of humble hobbits who actually won the war? So it is with Imrahil's part in all of this. The contributions of the humble and less well known are often as great as those of the better known. Thanks for a great presentation on the prince of Dol Amroth.
@micahp.4356
3 жыл бұрын
Ok he is up there with Glorfindel.
@asyou9519
2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video of dol amroth?
@anibalaguilarbarahona7201
4 жыл бұрын
Definitely, Imrahil resembles the old Numenorean blood!!!
@crazykids2004
4 жыл бұрын
That was awesome not as Knowledge as I want to be but I agree he is one of better lesser known characters
@benholte898
4 жыл бұрын
Are you going to be finishing the what's the difference series?
@ezrad.2900
4 жыл бұрын
I think the reason Denthor wanted Faramir to capture Osgiliath is cause Boromir did and he was testing him or something (not sure if Boromir actually reclaimed Osgiliath in the books)
@senpainoticeme9675
4 жыл бұрын
That is exactly it, Boromir was the one who recaptured Osgiliath before the War of the Rings.
@samwindle1245
4 жыл бұрын
noice
@caldooo
3 жыл бұрын
We all missed him in the movies.. :/
@bambostarla6259
4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the other gondorian captains that fought in the battle of the pelennor fields? Thanks!
@ezrad.2900
4 жыл бұрын
will you be playing the Gollum video game when it comes out
@hostilenative920
4 жыл бұрын
What was the purpose of the swan?
@farahahmed8201
4 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video on the nameless things
@scottcameron174
4 жыл бұрын
People are referencing the fact that Prince Imrahil was not in the film's. He was I believe he's only seen in the extended addition but he is present if not by name you can see an actor that is portraying his likeness.
@joshuapatrick682
3 жыл бұрын
Faramir wasn’t poisoned by an arrow!!!! How does this keep getting repeated?! Read the Houses of Healing chapter in the Return of the King where it is explicitly stated he was not poisoned by the arrow. “He is nearly spent,”Aragorn said turning to Gandalf. “But this comes not from the wound. Had he been smitten by a Dart of the Nazgul he would have died that night...weariness, grief for his father’s mood, a wound and over all The black breath.” No where does he mention poison. Imrahil Believed it had been since according to him “the wound was neither deep nor vital,” but Aragorn corrected him and spelled out exactly what was wrong with Faramir.
@mattlien5844
3 жыл бұрын
I would assume that with both a Swan and a Ship on his banner he would have to be a descendant of Earandil.
@bigbadseed7665
Жыл бұрын
If I could force one book character into the movies, it would be Prince Imrahil.
@Moutopher
4 жыл бұрын
YES FINALLY!
@kreuzrittergottes9336
4 жыл бұрын
i thought Tolkein had said that only thrice should Elves and Men conceive...is this an inconsistency from the Silmarilian?
@aknightofcamelot
Жыл бұрын
He was a badass
@truemanv3428
4 жыл бұрын
Dude. Where did you get all of your amazing facts from?
@henrikg1388
2 жыл бұрын
Where does it say that he died FA 34 at the age of 100? It sounds way too early to me. Dunedain such as Imrahil had a lifespan at least double that of normal men, even at the end of the third age.
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