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@ConnortheGonnor
2 жыл бұрын
Intellion is a really good starter from my experience is a good starter. It's learnset isn't good but really capable of 1 hiting your opponents even a few special tanks!
@shadow-mw4ks
2 жыл бұрын
U should do this list but include hidden abilities because it would really change up the list in my opinion
@heinousrat9019
2 жыл бұрын
I am glad you said it, When you you were talking about Decidueye I was thinking of "Blast-tiss" and I have said for a long time technically shouldn't be 'blast-tiss', I'm glad you brought in up. I love when somebody brings up "*pushes up glass* it's actually pronounced ..." I always interject with how Blastoise should be pronounced. had me rolling
@snakey1315
2 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion on upsidedown pineapple cake
@snakey1315
2 жыл бұрын
Answer me
@chifuee226
2 жыл бұрын
I mean Meganium's pretty bad, but I think putting it below testicular cancer might be a bit excessive
@joelnormal4876
2 жыл бұрын
At least ball cancer has growth.
@spegasparce1389
2 жыл бұрын
Swords Dance Synthesis Meganium in HGSS makes it into B tier. Else F tier
@LoKing1337
2 жыл бұрын
At least ball cancer can kill
@lemon.oy0
2 жыл бұрын
who is ball cancer?
@demi-femme4821
2 жыл бұрын
If you can get an early Rock-type like Onix in HGSS, Meganium isn't that bad.
@tde5318
2 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that this video exists only to justify his decidueye pronunciation
@jpshy1130
2 жыл бұрын
That bit was so fucking funny and out of nowhere
@XxCR4ZYxB34STxX
2 жыл бұрын
Actually made me laugh lol proud of him
@EvilFuzzy9
2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t justify anything. It’s just him being petty and deliberately obtuse.
@kevinzhang8643
2 жыл бұрын
@@EvilFuzzy9 idk I think his pronunciation is kinda based
@seriaburns4511
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly though, I thought it was automatic that C before I was pronounced as an S with some exceptions
@connorperrett9559
2 жыл бұрын
When can we expect an 8 hour long "Pro Nuzlocker Ranks Every Pokemon"?
@jayjesse77
2 жыл бұрын
Just put the gens ranked list in a playlist
@Igneusflama
Жыл бұрын
Alright but what about the variants from all the romhacks?
@animationdude9
Жыл бұрын
@@falsnamae3511 . . . . . wait what?
@idktbh5791
Жыл бұрын
@@animationdude9 watch the vids where he ranked Pokemon from each Gen😂 I think he has a playlist on them
@Jetsiuc
Жыл бұрын
Screw that. I want an 8 hour long "Pro Nuzlocker Analysis: The correct pronunciation of every Pokémon name".
@benglencross7572
8 ай бұрын
Sinnohs starters will forever be my favourite - Infernape, Empoleon and Torterra - all so strong, such unique and cool designs.
@leftkamui
5 ай бұрын
Factssssss
@marcobelli6856
3 ай бұрын
And sinnoh legends are some of the best too
@Buttonjira
Ай бұрын
To bad diamond and pearl suck hard, and platinum (no offense) Probably has the worst gym type order for the time
@zacharyvestal4430
2 жыл бұрын
As a long time viewer of Jan’s vids I must say, he’s finally figured out how to do a KZitem intro
@connorsexsmith6414
2 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment that lol
@mornemauvais5873
2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure his mother or someone else wrote it
@jpshy1130
2 жыл бұрын
Character development
@2shy2guy52
2 жыл бұрын
@@mornemauvais5873 there's a joke about furry bait, I don't think that his mom wrote it. It's his personality, he wrote the video professionally at some points and jokingly at others, like how he is on stream and in most other videos.
@MrChessboxing
2 жыл бұрын
@@2shy2guy52 dont think anyone actually believes his mom wrote it
@corvidaeae
2 жыл бұрын
This tier list is a fascinating look at how much context matters for whether a pokemon is good. So many mons in lower tiers that are A or S rank in romhacks or some competitive formats, thanks to their hidden abilities.
@mecha5893
2 жыл бұрын
Serperior is probably the best example of that because contrary leaf storm is absolutely insane, and some roms even make it a dragon type so Draco meteor spam is on the table as well
@rhyshain7629
2 жыл бұрын
Protean greninja is a beast
@gigalodon14
2 жыл бұрын
@@mecha5893 Serperior has a pretty nice dynamic in Drayano hacks since the early game is usually incredible hard due to Snivy being shit but in the late game it pays off and so many fights are becoming trivial
@andersonweir11
2 жыл бұрын
That why list is weird he look certain things for certain mons.cinderance ha so on is s.blaziken,greninja,seperior broken.movepool .typlosion eruption.
@mexicanpasta412
2 жыл бұрын
@@andersonweir11 what
@MrDeykar
2 жыл бұрын
I believe way back in Gen 1 the starter choice was meant as a difficulty slider. Grass easy, Water normal and fire as hard mode.
@CJSpider10
Жыл бұрын
That’s a different way of looking at it
@ApenasUmIdiota
Жыл бұрын
Using Bulbasaur sucked so much, Squirtle best choice ngl, to me it's: Water easy, Fire normal and Grass hard mode
@MrDeykar
Жыл бұрын
@@ApenasUmIdiota bulbasaur destroys the first 2 gyms, resists lt. Surge in the third one and is neutral to Erika in the fourth gym. Plus he has sleep powder pretty early and sleep is broken in gen 1. He’s only bad against Sabrina and in the seventh gym against Blaine’s fire type but by that point you should have a full team of 6 available which can beat that. Squirtel is great but isn’t just as great as Bulbasaur as he loses against Surge and he has a lot of competition with Gyarados for your water type on your team. Charmander is only nice to have for Erika but you get fire type alternatives right there. You can get Vulpix or Growlith dependent on which edition you had, or you evolve your free Eevee into Flareon and teach it flamethrower. You can also just use a flying type.
@lv1543
Жыл бұрын
@@MrDeykar lets be honest, no one ever lost to brock and for misty theres bellsprouts and oddishes next to her.
@---oq5kb
Жыл бұрын
@@MrDeykar I agree with bulbasaur being the best choice (since it's the most useful mon in the early parts of the game, which doesn't give you enough encounters)but bulbasaur does not get sleep powder early. It gets it at like level 41.
@Retsom3D
2 жыл бұрын
Im am somewhat proud of infernape here. Was my starter in gen 4 back in the days and since then has always been my favorite pokemon. Great design and it packs one hell of a punch.
@newtrainer7993
Жыл бұрын
My words
@Of-lf1rd
Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah monkey gang
@mmgg1671
Жыл бұрын
the anime too
@SuperCatacata
9 ай бұрын
*Buzz lightyear zooming out meme Infernape was not only the most popular starter from it's own gen by far. It was also the best starter for competitive at the time until speed boost was released for blaziken.
@TatoISR
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of starters become insanely more viable with their hidden abilities, really wish they were obtainable in most games.
@a3aannaqvi627
2 жыл бұрын
Contrary Serperior
@ZakiBlaze
2 жыл бұрын
Speed boost Blaziken is a menace
@grandmastoes4535
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZakiBlaze libero cinderace and protean/battle bond greninja
@rpv3378
2 жыл бұрын
@@a3aannaqvi627 Contrary Serperior broke the entire Blaze Black 2 hack rom, not to mention the dragon typing with acess to draco meteor and leaf storm and being only weak to ice
@iqcindonesia2411
2 жыл бұрын
sheer force feraligatr
@andrewp.1358
2 жыл бұрын
That one guy trashing on Jan in the comments because he put Charizard in anything below SS tier
@metalvyvern9531
2 жыл бұрын
Where are they lol
@waffleman246
2 жыл бұрын
But charizard has the fire blast… (totally kidding btw)
@harrisonrichter9414
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh I don't even get it why are they hating on the whole month of January
@symawi312
2 жыл бұрын
jan just doesn't know about charizard being able to learn charizard blast
@xmun0360
2 жыл бұрын
Must be Game Freak
@Danny4bidden
Жыл бұрын
There was a time when i got myself an infernape and called it Star Platinum, merely because they looked pretty similar to me. You can imagine how happy i was when it learned Close Combat.
@DrGecko1
Жыл бұрын
Ora ora ora ora ora OrAaAaA!
@FabschOblivion669
Жыл бұрын
I named mine in my first Plat Nuzlocke SunTzuKong.
@yargifunde
Жыл бұрын
The fact that Swampert is in S tier instantly makes the tierlist valid
@Jay-kx5cb
7 ай бұрын
Yeah I gotta admit Swampert is goated.
@Jason_097
6 ай бұрын
really thaught that he would be number 1
@monsoon1303
3 ай бұрын
Swampert the KING
@gigalodon14
2 жыл бұрын
The thing with Infernape is also that it learns pretty much every move that isn‘t water
@echris10sen
2 жыл бұрын
So true.
@dakaramotto.
2 жыл бұрын
Hidden Power Water :/
@Pihsrosnec
2 жыл бұрын
@@dakaramotto. relying on hidden power in a nuzlock is not a viable strategy
@dakaramotto.
2 жыл бұрын
@@Pihsrosnec IK! Gigalodon is saying that he LEARNS every move that isn’t water, so I proved them wrong, not viable moves.
@Pihsrosnec
2 жыл бұрын
@@dakaramotto. if we're talking technicalities you should've called out a non-water move it can't learn, like v-create
@frogpilledtoadcel773
2 жыл бұрын
Testicular cancer is noticeable by swelling or uneven growth of the testicle. Also if the swelling is, for example, inside the testicle, it will die off. Which hurts alot. Like getting kicked in the balls, but worse.
@Prime_Rabbit
2 жыл бұрын
Is there personal experience here or....
@frogpilledtoadcel773
2 жыл бұрын
@@Prime_Rabbit yes, got it at the beginning of the pandemic. Not very poggers
@countcrocodile1115
2 жыл бұрын
aye m8, thanks for the information, sorry you had to go through that, stay strong
@necrozma4029
2 жыл бұрын
Bro you good???
@Prime_Rabbit
2 жыл бұрын
@@frogpilledtoadcel773 yikes. Sorry to hear that man. I hope you beat it.
@hiimlorenzo807
Жыл бұрын
I do agree with this tier list. Although he didn’t cover Charizard for X and Y. Also I’m really happy that Delphox is in the A tier because I think Delphox is underrated.
@HeavenhoundGiuseppe
Жыл бұрын
She just has too much type advantage over the important battles to put either of the other two above her. No she can't do much to most of Team Flare, and no she can't do anything about the Greninja that your rival will have, but that's what we have Gardevoir for.
@sleepyshinx174
Жыл бұрын
Delphox is the only right choice in x and y
@elainnatividad104
Жыл бұрын
@@sleepyshinx174 I think he meant the mega evolution of charizard which are x and y
@pedritopedrito_
4 ай бұрын
Serperior with his hidden ability in the corner: I am literally the strongest leaf starter 😅
@TheCrow938
2 жыл бұрын
Im glad you have Delphox on here. So many people hate Delphox but once you get Flamethrower and Psychic on there it just destroys everything in its path
@Nosretep
Жыл бұрын
It gets Mystical Fire.
@TheCrow938
Жыл бұрын
@@Nosretep It learns mystical fire at 36 and flamethrower at 42 in gen 6 and after that mystical fire is a lvl move and flamethrower at 45. Mystical fire works fine until Flamethrower is available. Plus if you get a heart scale it can learn shadowball or with TM Shadowball, Dazzling Gleam, Solarbeam and Echoed Voice. Not to mention Calm Mind and Nasty Plot
@Nosretep
Жыл бұрын
@@TheCrow938 I wish it had Magic Guard. It'd be in OU. Give it Energy Ball and Moon Blast too.
@sulaimanaqeel9272
10 ай бұрын
we hate it cause it the lamest out of the kalos starters and it design mid
@arpandas2243
9 ай бұрын
@@sulaimanaqeel9272 still destroys charizard
@kieran7675
2 жыл бұрын
This video really shows how insane the Gen 4 starters are, Torterra is comfortably above average and is the worst of the 3
@DeathLeprecon
2 жыл бұрын
Nah! Empoleon's a trash bird. It's carried entirely by that Steel typing. Take it away and it'd be F tier. Besides, you got plenty of better water and steel types to choose from in Sinnoh. Why give up on those and two better starters just to have an oompa loompa penguin drag you down?
@Tom-dn6zy
2 жыл бұрын
@@DeathLeprecon cope
@accentillia8116
2 жыл бұрын
@@DeathLeprecon Yeah thats the point, a lot of pokemon wouldnt be good without their second typing, thats why they have that second typing, to be good 💀💀💀
@DeathLeprecon
2 жыл бұрын
@@accentillia8116 Bam! Get whimsy, fools.
@FraserSouris
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. All 3 Sinnoh starters have a lot that make them great. Torterra has great offences and bulk and a good move pool. Plus in terms of grass type competition, the only decent alternative is Roserade. But Roserade is a stone evo and doesn’t get good until it’s fully evolved and kitted out. Plus poison isn’t as great for offence as ground. Empoleon avoids the issues plaguing Blastoise and Feraligator by having the unique steel typing giving it an absurd amount of resistances and utility that something like Gyarrados can’t easily replicate. Like, it’s a water type you’d want to choose which alone makes it stand out in a world with Gyarados, Vaporeon and Lapras. It is held back by its low speed and rather average defences. Infernape is obviously S Tier.
@realhooperLynch
Жыл бұрын
Im so happy Delphox gets the love it deserves, it was always my fav gen 6 starter
@deepanjanmandal3694
2 жыл бұрын
INFERNAPE is just perfect my interest in pokemon rocketed after watching its arc in DP which was truly a MASTERPIECE
@Patterrz
2 жыл бұрын
Meganium might have terrible stats, typing, moveset and is ugly as sin but
@guavasmoothie5516
2 жыл бұрын
But WHAT Patterez, Huh?!
@SEPHIROTHSFOLLOWER
2 жыл бұрын
Lies, Meganium is a great looking Pokémon! Although it does suck in every other way so it being one of my favourites makes me think I have poor taste
@rook7792
2 жыл бұрын
It's cute as hell
@georgehayward532
2 жыл бұрын
It dinosaur
@Mech126.
2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Yoshi
@harryw3310
2 жыл бұрын
Love the Emboar appreciation, carried me at so many points in gen 5 nuzlockes. Hits like an absolute truck but has the bulk to take hits if needed. Happy to see it in A tier
@matheusbellini9461
Жыл бұрын
Agree. Also, he makes up for his bellow average speed with flame charge
@ruinthuessia1078
3 ай бұрын
For a pretty tanky mon' it's quite fast too.
@fletchqc9900
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who uses samurott alot, one of its biggest advantages is his learnset. It has a priority move in aqua jet, set up move with sword dance, good coverage move in x-scissor (or ice beam if you're stupid enough to play it special) good stab move in early game, and waterfall in later game. It makes samurott go from mid to a genuine threat. Waterfall, x-scissor, aqua-jet and sword dance is an amazing set that you can get incredibly easily. It also learns most of those moves VERY EARLY. Also, there are no other good water types in unova aside from jellicent, which has a completely different utility, unlike emboar who can be replaced by darmanitan. Its bulk is enough to tank a few hits, and it has priority. To me, it should definitely be in A tier.
@champagnefroggy3801
9 ай бұрын
Not until its gets one shotted by my Sceptile 😏
@fletchqc9900
9 ай бұрын
@@champagnefroggy3801 1: theres no sceptile in regular BW or BW2 nuzlocke playthrough 2: who would be stupid enough to send a water type against a grass type? 3: Grass and electric weaknesses are extremely easy to cover in a team, even on a nuzlocke. A single grass type covers both weaknesses.
@wallyrosario654
2 жыл бұрын
Finally some respect being put on Delphox. I like Greninja a lot but I have never thought it was the best starter in Kalos
@ijustwantedtocomment8319
2 жыл бұрын
Delphox is my favourite fire type starter so far so seeing it be the best starter in x and y is great.
@ijustwantedtocomment8319
2 жыл бұрын
I would like to specify that I am not a furry
@Ddddddddddd381
2 жыл бұрын
the charizard and blastoise bit was actually pure gold
@Anzuo
2 жыл бұрын
I never thought about it that way
@dab316TV
2 жыл бұрын
Tor-toyce is an acceptable pronunciation though, so he was wrong anyways with that one lol
@Ddddddddddd381
2 жыл бұрын
@@dab316TV you clearly missed the joke
@staringatthesun861
2 жыл бұрын
@@dab316TV It is? I've been alive for decades and I've never heard anyone say it that way.
@Champs-ek7lh
2 жыл бұрын
@@staringatthesun861 it’s the British pronunciation
@jacopodeldeo4308
2 жыл бұрын
11:34 can’t wait for every pokemon in platinum kaizo to have a flying or a psychic move
@cremlindor6607
2 жыл бұрын
I can already see it. Aerial Ace, Acrobatics, Zen Headbutt, Extrasensory
@CD-Gaming
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, wait, wait, hold up, rewind... "Platinum Kaizo"? Oh, no... nonononononono... not that... I'm not doing it! Nope! I'm not going beyond Renegade Platinum! Nope, can't make me! I already have a Challenge lined up as well, damnit! Still haven't finished Emerald Kaizo anyway...
@jacopodeldeo4308
2 жыл бұрын
@@CD-Gaming THF has already made 3 videos about platinum kaizo
@CD-Gaming
2 жыл бұрын
@@jacopodeldeo4308 Well, I'm still sticking with my plan to take on Renegade Platinum with Dia's Team from the Diamond/Pearl/Platinum Adventure Manga! No, I told you, I'm not a masochist! Honest!
@jacopodeldeo4308
2 жыл бұрын
@@CD-Gaming c’mon mate you can’t resist not playing SHF latest game I don’t even nuzlocke them tbh i play them for fun and they are incredibly fun
@TekkatV2
11 ай бұрын
12:17 "I look forward to reading absolutely none of them" made me chuckle.
@fadedkookoodragon4556
2 жыл бұрын
Infernape actually recently became my favorite starter. Glad I chose well! Also, every 8 year old Pokemon fan is dying because of the placement of Charizard and Blastoise.
@cleannation1
2 жыл бұрын
Charizard sucks and blastoise is only good in gen 8 when it gets shell smash
@marcogypaetus9607
2 жыл бұрын
One thing in favor of Litten: picking it in sun and moon is the easiest way of dealing with that blasted Magnemite. Any other pick puts you too much at the mercy of rng and is a potential run killer. Popplio is weak to it, Rowlet is neutral but has no good offense, nothing you can catch at that point really helps ( and depending on how stringently you apply the rules, you might walk into that fight with just two mons, one of which will be your starter).
@g_hyperstar3609
2 жыл бұрын
This is actually a really good point. That magnemite is one of the toughest things to deal with in Sun/Moon, especially with how limited the encounters are, and both Rowlet and Popplio are too slow and weak to effectively deal with it. Even if they survive (which is pretty hard with them since Magnemite would deal massive damage with thundershock and it outspeeds both), whoever left from the team after the Magnemite could very likely get defeated by Ilima I started with Rowlet and couldn't get past the magnemite since the only other thing I got was a Pikipek. Then I switched to Litten and after doing that I could continue the run
@blue_the_boy_kisser
2 жыл бұрын
While it would take a long time, EV training Popplio in HP as much as you can allows for it to takes hits from magnemite relatively well and get a solid hit on it. From there, other team members should be able to wear it down and deal with it effectively.
@marcogypaetus9607
2 жыл бұрын
@@blue_the_boy_kisser I did say it was the easiest way, not the only one.
@bobathywaffe7056
2 жыл бұрын
Also, incineroar is probably the most broken starter evolution.
@Crxsseyed1
2 жыл бұрын
Wait when is there a magnetite?
@SNK_LRD
2 жыл бұрын
“Let me get this straight, you think Emboar is well-designed?” “I do, and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.”
@cartooncritic7045
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought Emboar looked super sick, I’ve never understood the people who said its design was bad.
@jouheikisaragi6075
2 жыл бұрын
@@cartooncritic7045 it honestly looks like a better Ganon design than a lot of Ganon designs. That is to say: Badass Demon Fire Boar good
@Rarest26
2 жыл бұрын
It’s simple, combine the fact that it’s the third starter with it’s typing in a row with the fact it’s a gen 5 mon which, at least back in the day, were disliked by default.
@cartooncritic7045
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rarest26 1. Fire/Fighting is good, actually. GF should make more of them. 😎 2. Gen 5 was, is, and always will be the best Pokemon generation and just because a bunch of obnoxious people were wrong about that in 2011 doesn’t suddenly make a good Pokemon design worse.
@lukefitton7329
2 жыл бұрын
He's always been my favourite starter since he released. There's nothing wrong with not liking his design but it's annoying how some people are still bitter about there being three Fire/Fighting starters in a row. It's a great typing.
@acehealer4212
2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see some respect on the designs of the Gen V starters. Emboar is one of my favorite Pokémon. Of course this vid is more about their viability in Nuzlockes, and I'm honestly I'm happy Emboar does well there too. I've been thinking of doing a Pokémon White Nuzlocke, and I'm for sure choosing Tepig.
@sleepdeprivedpikachu7235
Жыл бұрын
FINALLY IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR SO LONG DELPHOX IS THE BEST KALOS STARTER AND ALWAYS WILL BE FIRE PSYCHIC IS AMAZING AND THERES PRETTY MUCH NOTHING THAT RESISTS BOTH
@Giano182-OnePieceAmvs
Жыл бұрын
Tyranitart nonetheless
@realsanmer
2 жыл бұрын
Finally a list where my main boy Chesnaught isn't on F tier
@brandonfazbear4219
2 жыл бұрын
I know right?! Serves Greninja right for always being #1. It always feels nice when underrated Pokémon like Chesnaught or Delphox can actually get the chance to shine and be above Greninja. I would've been fine for if they made the Kalos starters balanced with attention and how they work but they had to give it all to Greninja and only Greninja to the point to where anytime I see Greninja, I start to get upset/cringe knowing that the other Kalos starters are just forgotten. I mean, Greninja literally made a cameo in Pokémon Café Remix. The other starters probably would've worked better but no. Greninja. I don't want to hate Greninja and I'm not saying that my opinion is better then anyone else's. I just have dealt with this situation for years now and wish for there to be a change so Greninja can take a back seat for once and let the other Kalos starters or really any other Kalos Pokémon have the chance to shine.
@ziel32
2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonfazbear4219 that’s because greninjas just that much better, in its own game x And y it’s handles the second gym, the 7th and 8th gym plus two elite four members if you have ice beam, plus after a while it just outspeeds everything and one shots mostly everything else. It’s overpowered and the pretending like it’s not is stupid. The reason chesnaught and delfox are over shadowed is because they are Worse.
@accentillia8116
2 жыл бұрын
@@ziel32 Okay but its outclassed by every single water type in the game not called Luvdisc because they all get Ice Beam anyways and i would rather have a Chesnaught or a Delphox always. The classic water type dilemma of being a water starter thats a pure water with nothing to differentiate itself from other water types...of all the pure water types, only Samurott Is saved.
@nerdyfalco408
2 жыл бұрын
@@accentillia8116 I agree with many things you said but greninja is not a pure water type
@ziel32
2 жыл бұрын
@@accentillia8116 greninja is water dark? And how In the world is it out classed? Without ev training and just doing the sorry my greninja by the 8th gym had a a speed stat in the three hundreds with its special attack not far behind
@Gloobster1350
2 жыл бұрын
Big props, these video easily could have been 30 minutes if you hadn’t really thought everything out before hand. Made it super concise and entertaining. Great vid!
@RoyaltonDrummer922
2 жыл бұрын
I mean, that's what editing is for too...
@Subgenrelol
2 ай бұрын
If you are playing Platinum, you actually have a few options of fire types, like Houndoom. It’s grass type in Platinum where your options if you don’t take Turtwig are either Cherrim or Roserade
@theplaylistpsycho
2 жыл бұрын
I love how Cynthia's music plays when he starts talking about the S tiers.
@Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not watching it to know what to pick, I'm watching it to know how much screwed I am for picking my favs
@cyb0rggaming430
7 ай бұрын
me picking torterra in my first nuzlocke - platinum right now
@VijayMarshall
3 ай бұрын
@@cyb0rggaming430 me picking serperior
@Shay96
2 жыл бұрын
Super happy to see my boy Infernape as the top Nuzlocke starter. Basically, it seems that starters who are fast, hit hard, have either good offensive and/or defensive typing and excel in solo battles seem to thrive more in hardcore nuzlockes.
@m_winewood
Жыл бұрын
Delphox always gets hate and I never understand it cuz it's dope looking and it's cracked. The clear option imo. Also that Serperior hurt. I mean I get it but.... not my baby
@luigi8970
2 жыл бұрын
I actually agree with you in most things actually. Delphox is the best gen 6 starter, Primarina the best gen 7 starter, Infernape the best gen 4 starter and Venusaur the best gen 1 starter
@goldencyclone4984
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Greninja's move pool was chosen based on two criteria: Being Ninja-like and giving him types to abuse Protean with. Unfortunately ninja moves aren't very hard hitting and Protean isn't available for Lockes. Meanwhile Cinderace gets less types to abuse Libero with but what they gave it actually has some impact to it. Gunk Shot and Iron Head are both solid enough moves, and its signature hits very hard.
@szymonderlatka4942
2 жыл бұрын
facts imagine greninja with like scald and dark pulse in his level up moveset so you can go like water shuriken scald dark pulse and coverage or maybe u turn/flip turn and then instead of water shuriken coverage. This thing would be crazy
@walls0cket677
2 жыл бұрын
Gren *had* gunk shot in Oras i think. There was a move tutor and I loved using it as a trump card.
@Chelsea-ho7um
2 жыл бұрын
@@szymonderlatka4942 I mean that's what tms are for
@GSquadHQ-4048
2 жыл бұрын
Cinderace also gets Bounce, which is crazy strong under Dynamax, since the Max Airstream boosts your speed.
@andersonweir11
2 жыл бұрын
Frog camo
@saw1833
2 жыл бұрын
8:03 I've been thinking this forever now. The "decaduey" always bothered me just enough but then I got thinking about Blastoise and Charizard and I realized nothing makes sense anymore. Say whatever works best for you 😂
@nickitnite9682
2 жыл бұрын
Delibird too. People say Deli Bird. When it's actually a pun off the word "Delivered" because it's a bird that delivers things and has nothing to do with lunch meat. In reality, Delibird should be said with the annunciation to where it rhymes with "Delivered".
@sushi287
2 жыл бұрын
But I say tortoise like tour-toys. Am I just really stupid or what
@alexjames7144
2 жыл бұрын
@@sushi287 that's the only way
@alexjames7144
2 жыл бұрын
Nah I'm sorry but if you're saying tortus that's just wrong.
@sushi287
2 жыл бұрын
@@alexjames7144 thanks for validating that bro. I’m guessing that it’s a cultural thing, like adidas and adeedas
@wolfstormminatures1504
11 ай бұрын
I would most agree with this tier list but I have one objection, greninja should be swapped with empoleon. Greninja has moves to cover most of its weaknesses, it takes super affective damage from 5 types. Bug, fighting, electric, grass and fairy. It cover 4 of its weaknesses with it WIDE move pool it can learn dig for electric types, acrobatics for bug types and fighting types and grass types and with protean this 110 base power move then becomes stab. Keep in mind that it also gets extrasensory for fighting types which goes very nice with its 103 special attack. With protean all of these moves become stab. It cannot cover its fairy weakness, however you only face fairy once in gen 6 and there are plenty of poison types you can get access to to deal with Valerie. Empoleon is the worst for its generation, the other 2 starters do very well against it and can destroy them because they both have access to high power stab super effective moves in earthquake for torterra and close combat for infernape . It covers 2 of the 3 weaknesses, However the moves it gets access to for the coverage are not stab. one of them is a physical move and the other is a special move. Electric types are very prominent in platinum and one of the final gym leaders has a jolteon and raichu. it cannot deal with some of the earliest gym leaders which matter more because of the limited team options. In my opinion greninja should have been bottom of s tier if not A tier. Its high speed and good coverage make it a good Pokémon. I mean I was surprised when you said its move coverage sucks. But this is just my opinion
@vardaangupta7128
11 ай бұрын
I completely agree I was very surprised by his decision
@kevinb5417
Жыл бұрын
Infernape once again proves itself to be infallibly awesome.
@CoffeeFlavoredMilk
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could something like this but for common "early game" Pokemon. IE: early route rodents/bugs/birds/fish if fishing is available early There's another person who did a similar list to this but I think it'd be interesting to hear your take on it.
@acesockvims1671
2 жыл бұрын
Staraptor = Easiest S-tier of all time.
@spideymenz5738
2 жыл бұрын
Staraptor is legit absolutely busted. Once you give it CCombat, Max Friendship Return and Brave Bird; *_get your popcorn ready cause that thing’s bout to oneshot_*
@marioruiz5758
2 жыл бұрын
@@acesockvims1671 swellow is better than stataptor. Change my mind
@spideymenz5738
2 жыл бұрын
@@marioruiz5758 actually yeah, guts facade is indeed better
@priestesslucy3299
2 жыл бұрын
@@acesockvims1671 yeah Staraptor is one of the very best. Spearow is a _solid A_ in Gen 1. Probably falls lower in the remakes
@mageplayz4908
2 жыл бұрын
Finally. Someone who appreciates the gen 5 starters.
@MNMNT_OG
2 жыл бұрын
Especially Emboar
@shako4907
2 жыл бұрын
Tbf gen 5 is becoming the new gen 1
@MaxMax-zb9vx
2 жыл бұрын
@@shako4907 it was meant to be the new gen 1
@staringcorgi6475
2 жыл бұрын
Except for the grass starter that everyone likes for some reason
@GestressteKatze
2 жыл бұрын
you mean the best gen starters
@TheBlueFerretProject
Жыл бұрын
There’s nothing like taking a hot shower and listening to you being validated that your favorite Pokémon is the best starter.
@anubixus
2 жыл бұрын
Infernape is everything Emboar and Blaziken dream of being every night. This is so damn accurate. And imagine if Infernape had Drain Punch!!
@foxy_bingo8930
Жыл бұрын
It does in legends arceus 😈
@joshtucci468
2 жыл бұрын
I’d say primarina is s-tier as it gets energy ball, combining with duel stab and the classic ice coverage you hit half the types for super effective and being immune to dragon as well is pretty big, especially in the ultra games
@cleannation1
2 жыл бұрын
Primarina is busted. Calm Mind, Substitute, Scald, Draining Kiss with Leftovers basically wins
@LocallyConstantDuck
2 жыл бұрын
PC trying to convince us he isn’t a furry again. Keep asking questions.
@lohitsai12
9 ай бұрын
I think the problem with Delphox is that charizard X/Y is way freaking better than Delphox. In fact, Charizard Y is so broken for playthroughs that, even if the games were designed to be harder, Charizard Y would still breeze through anything easily.
@ricado7535
Жыл бұрын
In England we say tor-tois
@DonSultanable
2 жыл бұрын
"Tell me what you think I got wrong in the comments, Iook forward to reading absolutely none of them" This is the reason, why I subscribed this channel
@TDay-uk6dq
2 жыл бұрын
can we all agree that the sinnoh starters are really amazing and awsome can we all agree infernape is an absolute beast it’s my favorite starter of all time WOOOOOOO
@CocoLocoToco
2 жыл бұрын
@TrainerblueTube wait why dont u like admitting it? Is it because ur fav starter is blaziken/emboar?(no offense tho)
@CocoLocoToco
2 жыл бұрын
@TrainerblueTube ahhh Yea,i also started to like meganium bc its hated on lol
@svxtn
2 жыл бұрын
I must say, Jan does a great job with his sponsorships, because he might be the only youtuber whose sponsors I never skip through. It's always brought in at an appropriate time and never lasts too long, but has enough humor and doesn't feel too forced. Very well done every time 👍
@-Burb
Жыл бұрын
My Serperior on my 10 year old Pokemon Black save heard you put it in F tier and it started crying. Im waiting for your formal apology to him :P
@mihaimorar2043
2 жыл бұрын
Unneccesary fact: Decidueye's name is more specifically based on the word deadeye, which basically means someone who is a really good archer
@anonymousfellow8879
2 жыл бұрын
OHHH!! So THAT’S why it looks like a Geeky Robinhood! I knew it was basically an extinct owl for its Ghost Typing, but I couldn’t figure out its Archer Gimmick
@SilverHawkShiny
2 жыл бұрын
Oh
@cannon-evans
2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was based on the word deciduous, a type of forest?
@SilverHawkShiny
2 жыл бұрын
@@cannon-evans ok
@exaltedfalcheon1793
2 жыл бұрын
@@cannon-evans it is.
@KingKP96
2 жыл бұрын
Rowlet is actually s+ tier because it's the only starter that wears a bowtie.
@johncarlonalaunan4991
2 жыл бұрын
fair point
@FlamingNeoSharps
Жыл бұрын
And is god in the anime
@christopherfleetwood5252
10 ай бұрын
That’s fair😊
@BartlebyScrivener-oz6mk
5 ай бұрын
Me: Decidueye Pchal: Dewey decimal system
@mrodri1012
Жыл бұрын
I’d say Greninja shouldn’t be penalized for its learnset because of how many accessible TMs it has at its disposal in X and Y. You can get U-turn, Dark Pulse, Surf, Waterfall, and Acrobatics so you have plenty of options with a physical or special build.
@V-Jes
Жыл бұрын
Yes it should when most of the good moves are unlocked in end/post game, meaning they aren't useful for beating the game if you first need to beat the game to unlock those...
@demi-femme4821
2 жыл бұрын
Jan: *compliments Emboar's design* Me: "Huzzah! A man of quality!"
@docterfantazmo
2 жыл бұрын
I'd love for a vid where you go over all your lists and talk about how you'd improve the worst places on each. I love lil thought experiments like that.
@ethanwallis5678
2 жыл бұрын
Nice pfp lol
@armoredanteater609
2 жыл бұрын
So glad somebody finally appreciates Delphox
@kyliev2854
2 жыл бұрын
Ever since sword and shield I've made it my mission to play through any new pokemon game with a team of pink pokemon (and I name my trainer Pinkamon obviously). I'd be curious to see how you'd build a team around a theme like this, it makes for a challenging playthrough with such a limited pool of pokemon, I can't even imagine how difficult making a decent team for a hardcore nuzlocke would be! Love the content, keep up the good work!
@cevinzeke5110
2 жыл бұрын
Seeing swampert and venusaur in S and A tier does my gen 3 Pokémon emerald and Fire red heart good. Love these boys.
@joshholmes1372
2 жыл бұрын
Calling venusaur gen 3 due to a remake is blasphemy 😂
@hzakiyyamuhammad1847
2 жыл бұрын
Omg so trueee
@cevinzeke5110
2 жыл бұрын
@@joshholmes1372 I was referring to the fact that the first games I played were gen 3 and fire red is a gen 3 game, obviously I know my boys gen 1
@artursilva6189
2 жыл бұрын
"And you're terrible" thank you Jan, as always, so wholesome ❤❤❤
@Nikkidafox
Жыл бұрын
9:27 "Also its pre-evolution is great furry bait if you're into that" You're not wrong but... So is delphox itself. I want more love for my mommy witch fox.
@TheGamingFuzzBall
5 ай бұрын
Charmander line is actually good in all games other than og gen 1. Metal claw can sweep Brock, just get oddish or bellsprout for misty and then it’s smooth sailing.
@alonelywitch4042
2 жыл бұрын
Cinderace also naturally learns flame charge which boosts speed, and it can learn Electro Ball through TR/TM. I love using this combo
@Nosretep
Жыл бұрын
Electro Ball isn't good. It's a Special Move not physical.
@lukaskback9710
2 жыл бұрын
I think he is understating the degree to which Meganium has a terrible matchup. Let’s just go down the list of things Meganium loses to: - Silver has an Ice type, a Poison/Flying type, another Poison type, a Steel type and Typhlosion. - Falkner has two Flying types. - Bugsy has 3 Bug types, 2 of which 4x resist grass. - Whitney is neutral. - Morty has 4 Poison types - Chuck is alright, you beat Poliwrath. - Jasmine has Steel types (although you have a neutral matchup for Steelix I guess) - Pryce has Ice types (which are all weak to Grass but still) - Claire has a Flying type and 3 Dragons. You’re neutral against Kingdra and Gyarados but probably still lose to them 1v1. - Petrel has Zubat, Koffing and Weezing, all of which know Flying or Poison type moves. - Ariana has a Poison type, a Grass/Poison type and a Flying type. - Archer has 2 Fire types and a Poison type. - Will has 2 Xatu, an Exeggutor and a Jynx, all of which you lose to. You beat the Slowbro I guess. - Koga has… actually let’s not talk about Koga. - It beats Bruno’s Onix, which we all know is a very threatening Pokémon that there are very few counters to. - Karen has a Grass/Poison type, a Flying type, another Poison type and a Fire type. You don’t even beat the Umbreon because of Double Team. - Lance has 6 Flying types, 4 of which 4x resist Grass and one of those is a Charizard. So for main game Johto, Meganium loses to: - 5/6 of the Rival’s team. - 5/8 gym leaders (I’m being generous and calling Pryce neutral) - All 3 of the Rocket Executives (every single one of their Pokémon in fact) - 3 Elite Four members and the Champion. As for things it has a good matchup against: - Chuck’s Poliwrath - Will’s Slowbro - Bruno’s Onix It gets better if you get to Kanto, but even there it’s still bad. If we look at the gyms, you: - Beat the first 3, however Misty has Ice type coverage on half her team and Surge probably still stalls you out with Paralysis and Double Team. - Erika has 4 Grass types which it can’t touch, 2 of which have secondary Poison or Flying typings. - Janine is about as good of a matchup as her father. - Sabrina is neutral (at best). - Blaine has Fire types. - Blue has a 2 Flying types, a Grass type and a Fire type. You can beat the Rhydon. - You can beat Red’s Pikachu, but Lapras, Blastoise and even Snorlax all carry Blizzard, and you get hard-countered by Venusaur and Charizard. So even in Kanto, Meganium: - Loses to 4 gyms - Beats 3 gyms (if I’m being generous with Surge) - And loses to Red. This is a shit Pokémon.
@laylakagiyama
2 жыл бұрын
stop making me want to do an hgss nuzlocke where i keep meganium in my party at all times
@JovanaSanchez000
2 жыл бұрын
@@laylakagiyama Do it, masochist!
@laylakagiyama
2 жыл бұрын
@@JovanaSanchez000 honestly, it's more about rebellion than masochism
@N12015
Жыл бұрын
Let's compare it to Serperior. Loses the first gym, like all starters Is neutral against Lenora Loses hard against Burgh It loses against Elesa's flying rats, like the other 2 Starters. Wins against Clay except maybe Excadrill Loses against Skyla and Pryce. Is oddly not awful against Drayden/Iris due to Coil + Return. If it wasn't for dragon tail i would call this equal. Loses against all of Cheren's battles, and a bit harder than the other starters. Is neutral against Bianca. Neutral against second N, loses third and fourth N, and fares oddly well in final N due to fossil mons giving Serperior setup opportunity. Is overall neutral against the elite 4, each time it has a good matchup is followed by an awful one, and somewhat loses to Catleya's Sigilyph. Results: Loses hard to also 5 gyms, good in 1 and neutral in 2. It's saving grace has to be Coil and Growth, allowing Servine/Serperior to be a decent setup sweeper in a gen where those are lacking. But let's be real, it gets outclassed by Lilligant in that role, who gets quiver dance at 28, Giga drain at 26 and has access to sleep powder from the get go. Black 2 White 2 is softer but not really, because the cost of an easy 8th gym is the elite 4 lacking mons Serperior takes in a 1v1 no problem bar Krookodile. Still, that is much better Meganium, where it at least has battles where it is the legit best choice.
@Edgso
Жыл бұрын
I love Venusaur, and I'm really proud of it's position in this tier list. 😄
@mars.unreal
2 жыл бұрын
Dont get confused guys. Its based on the base games and only within that game. So not applicable for most rom hacks. ^^
@jblev736
2 жыл бұрын
8:01 This decidueye blastoise part was hilarious 😂
@user-ln2go4xp6d
2 жыл бұрын
i'm not from north america though, where we do pronounce the "oise" in tortoise.
@ajbXYZcool
2 жыл бұрын
Not only does he acknowledge the correct way to say it, when he's done he goes back to the incorrect pronunciation
@Joseph-oq6ij
2 жыл бұрын
I always love some Emboar praise
@aceknight6622
Жыл бұрын
finally some embor love,tepig is my all time favorite starter for alot of reasons. im really happy to see its evo line get some love
@ohboof
5 ай бұрын
out of everything, i was actually very shocked to see Cinderace in S tier. gen 8 was my first pokemon game and scorbunny instantly grabbed my heart. i'm glad to know it's that good
@RussianBearMafia
2 жыл бұрын
Finally, some justice for Typhlosion.
@matthewkuscienko4616
2 жыл бұрын
Don't know what you're talking about, it's always been the favorite out of the gen2 starters for most people, and it's well-known by this point how good it is during the main game playthrough
@RussianBearMafia
2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewkuscienko4616 when compared to other gens Typhlosion is usually in peoples lower tier because he's " copy paste Charizard "
@matthewkuscienko4616
2 жыл бұрын
@@RussianBearMafia When you look at their stats, that's true. But that's really not getting at anything beyond just a base level observation, seeing as the 2 Pokemon are actually pretty different in a number of significant ways besides just their stat distribution, which is something that from what I've seen before is a fact that not everyone seems to be able to grasp
@RussianBearMafia
2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewkuscienko4616 who are you trying to make a point to, word salad?
Average Serperior Fan: *0* Average Emboar Enjoyer: :)
@kellylogs2642
2 жыл бұрын
I know it's probably for comedy, but for anyone wondering why the Decidueye pronuciation joke might rile you up: it's because you're probably used to the rule in English where c, when followed by an i, e, or y, is pretty much always soft (ex: decide, decimate, December, decimal, decipher, docile, cynical, century, percent, mercy, etc...). You're not crazy, there is a real reason we pronounce it that way. But maybe leave the funny nuzlocke man alone about it, it's not that important lol.
@lukegarrido328
2 жыл бұрын
SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY LIKES EMBOAR. I see alot of people hating on this pokemon because "its ugly", but i think Emboar has a cool design and overall sick pokemon .(The number 1 reason i like Emboar is probablly becasue of the manga, i LOVE the pokemon adventures series and the gen 5 part of it is probablly my 2nd favorite part in the pokemon manga).
@leviv168
2 жыл бұрын
Just hearing Jan say Decidueye in the commonly accepted way is all I wanted. Now I can laugh at the meme
@jackpatterson7110
2 жыл бұрын
I have some very uncommon favourites (Primarina, Emboar, etc), so it was quite nice seeing them closer to the top of the list :)
@jackpatterson7110
2 жыл бұрын
Although I'll never stop using my guy Feraligatr
@ohyes1571
Жыл бұрын
i was team popplio since day one and i’m so happy that primarina is getting the respect that it deserves
@fool8304
Жыл бұрын
When you think about how Chuck's Poliwrath is the only Pokemon on any Gym Leader's team in Johto that Chikorita gets to hit super effectively
@hallo23779
Жыл бұрын
i doubt most pokemon on the list except the F tier my list (excluding f tier) S gen 8 grass, mudkip and chimchar A gen 8 fire, greninja, rowlet, venusaur B cyndaquil, charizard, treeco, gen 8 water type, gen 6 water, blaziken, penguin, pig C chespin, the dolphin, tortera, aligator
@dannyleder4787
2 жыл бұрын
Finally, some well-deserved love for Emboar! Great tier-list too. Love the vids!
@QR14_Masahiya
2 жыл бұрын
finally, primarina got the award she got
@StormoDF7
2 жыл бұрын
87,5% for being male
@JoshtheOverlander
2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, Primarina squad! I played in an RP server that featured an original region and my character's Primarina scored a victory against the final member of the E4's Mega Ampharos! We used Pokemon Showdown to settle battles.
@nitsan
2 жыл бұрын
Venosaur is such a butterface though
@fertileplanet7756
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly Jan, Emboar is very underrated. Love the entire line, even Pignite.
@Capcom_7
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't think it was possible for me to have strong opinions about starter Pokemon until he put Serperior in the F tier. That grass snek was one of my favorites
@spideymenz5738
2 жыл бұрын
Serperior can also be very fun to use thanks to having Leech Seed an Coil.
@priestesslucy3299
2 жыл бұрын
Serpeior got screwed when they designed it for Contrary but you can't get it for an ingame playthrough. It's slow to come online, but Contrary makes Serperior incredibly fun in Blaze Black/White 1 and 2
@michaelvisosky743
2 жыл бұрын
Hard agree. I adore Serperior, and you'd think that with "good" bulk, Leech Seed, and Coil, it would be able to...be good? But yeah, non-contrary Serperior in a lot of situations ends up being pretty underwhelming and dying to that one Throh on Twist Mountain.
@LaGalaxy-jr4gh
2 жыл бұрын
I actually walled Cheren with just servine in my first nuzlocke after Skyla. I got lucky against his unfeazant after leaf tornado crit+ accuracy drop twice in a row. And then I set up coils against his pignite then leaf blade one shot everyone. Obviously lost to Brycen’s gym shortly after.
@jarlsterra
2 жыл бұрын
This tier list has absolutley nothing to do with designs. Jan even said he liked serperiors design.
@jackiscracked_
Жыл бұрын
im pretty sure skeledirge takes the top spot now
@omgomgomg2323
2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with this list but I think feraligator should be higher it gets access to ice type moves in pokemon HG and SS which are good against Lance and some other pokemons
@RoyaltonDrummer922
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: even after all these years, Feraligatr still doesn't have an O in its name
@banoly4161
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who always picks Meganium for Gen 2, I've never felt more proud.
@cleannation1
2 жыл бұрын
Me too. I enjoy my pain. Let's just say early reflect and/or light screen with growth is pretty good
@banoly4161
2 жыл бұрын
@@cleannation1 I only pick it because Cyndaquil and Totodile are so mainstream and boring, but it is really good for Nuzlockes late-game. Mine is called Maui.
@cleannation1
2 жыл бұрын
@@banoly4161 i use it because of early guaranteed screens. It's so fat that you just max it's EVs and click growth on everything. Or you can go Leech Seed, Sleep Powder, Screens if you're a real stall lord
@ZoinksScoob2006
2 жыл бұрын
Serperior actually carried me in my black hardcore nuzlock so i was extremely surprised when it was F tier
@Isleptwithjesus
2 жыл бұрын
Because grass is not good in unova And its moves are not the best And its stats are weird Thats why And you are playing hard mode when you choose snivy
@KrxkenZ
2 жыл бұрын
I just recently used it in my play through serperior lacks offense and defense u have leech seed but terrible offense hurts serperior i used coil,leech seed,leaf blade,toxic(which i didn't used coz serperior lacks defense) limited asf kinda sucke tbh
@KrxkenZ
2 жыл бұрын
Also ye hail emboar u can use bulk up/work up and flame charge to raise speed and he has rly great attack also 100 sp.atk is rly great
@glennmorren2892
2 жыл бұрын
@@KrxkenZ also learns scald, as a fire type which is insane
@selflesswarrior
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Mine had some monster defensive IVs and it’s leech seed it was practically unkillable. It and my Stoutland carried my Nuzlocke.
@Xino1217
2 жыл бұрын
I think Feraligatr in HG/SS is more like B-tier. It has pretty good coverage with Crunch and Ice fang which is really useful against Clair and Lance (though it is indeed outclassed by Gyarados)
@triggeredcheese5318
Жыл бұрын
delphox fans taking a W wherever it can be found
@ghengiroo4143
2 жыл бұрын
8:40 I don’t know if I’m remembering wrong but I think almost everyone I’ve seen has pronounced tortoise like tour-toyce. Maybe it’s a British thing or something, but that’s the only reason I felt Blas-toyce seemed like the way to say it. If it is a thing with either the UK or just the area I lived in, I wonder what caused other people to pronounce it the same way.
@djroscurro9859
2 жыл бұрын
The section was a joke Still an interesting point though
@PredictableEnigma
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is a UK thing that he probably was unaware of
@redwings13400
2 жыл бұрын
Having played through a sword nuzlocke with Cinderace, I can confirm that its an incredible pokemon. Level 36 pyro ball is awesome, bulk isn't great but is honestly better than you'd expect for a fast fire type, along with some decent utility moves in u-turn and flame charge. Ok, honestly its mostly pyro ball, but a bp 120 stab fire move with zero drawbacks from a base 116 attack stat is insane. It just kills everything.
@megacharizardx5515
2 жыл бұрын
Well it CAN miss
@aydenmaxwell8759
2 жыл бұрын
Cinderace is my. Favorite starter for every reason. Except HORNI
@KindaKaon
Жыл бұрын
@@megacharizardx5515 completely irrelevant with how early you get wide lens tbh. It effectively becomes a flare blitz that doesn’t deal recoil at the cost of no lefties (which Id ban anyway) or specs/scarf
@pyromaniac000000
Жыл бұрын
Meganium isn’t actually that bad of a pokemon, it was just dealt a REALLY shitty hand. Gen 2 is just super unfriendly to grass types in general. 3 of the gyms are straight up super effective against grass, 2 of which also resist grass, plus another 3 that resist grass as well, including the ghost gym since it Morty only uses the ghost/point gastly line (seriously, why no misdreavous??) It also has not a single gym grass is super effective against. In addition to that, in the elite 4, Koga fully resists grass, lance half resists it while having 4 super effective options, Karen has 4 pokemon that resist grass, and Will has 3. Out of all the gyms and the league, only 3 pokemon are weak to grass, Chucks poliwrath, Wills slowbro, and Brunos onix. Like it really was never meganiums fault, the region is just SUPER hostile to grass types!
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