To clarify: “architect” in this scenario is used metaphorically. Not as in the position of a software architect. Software engineers understand the software as a whole rather than in one specific area. If you are hired as a software engineer, you might only work on the backend but are expected to understand how the entire stack works. Software engineer isn’t a specific role, it’s a description to describe someone who understands an umbrella of things related to programming.
@netoutube
Жыл бұрын
¿more like a contractor?
@homelessrobot
Жыл бұрын
@@netoutube no. a contractor is no more or less like an engineer than a technician. you can recruit a contractor to fill either an engineering or a technican role. in general this whole line of thinking is just a great waste of time, and it really isn't that important who's an engineer and whose a technician. what matters is that you are doing enough cake baking to justify all of the kitchen management you are wasting time on.
@guyhosse3308
Жыл бұрын
As a civil engineer i was appalled you use architect instead of engineer to follow the analogy of a SOFTWARE ENGINEER.
@Entropy67
Жыл бұрын
Software Architects, from what I've seen, are garbage. How you gonna dictate the architecture when you don't even see the implementation? They are intertwined. There are some unreal things that occur when the architecture is taken out of the hands of the people actually writing the code. Which is also why I don't like this distinction. From what you've defined in the video, the difference between programmer and software engineer is that one is professional and the other one is a hobbyist that doesn't really understand what they are doing.
@jontnoneya3404
Жыл бұрын
Now you've done it - you've confused everyone. In trying to clarify programmers from SEs you mention architects and now no one knows what a software architect is.
@FenixAnimation
Жыл бұрын
I went to school to be a software engineer and only job i could find in my area was fixing printers 😅
@fordthecow9838
Жыл бұрын
He's in the panhandle of Oklahoma probably
@FenixAnimation
Жыл бұрын
@@fordthecow9838 southwest Wyoming actually
@getamo
Жыл бұрын
Lol same. Anykey wasn't my dream
@LolLol007
Жыл бұрын
@@fordthecow9838😂
@thabotheko2598
Жыл бұрын
Me and you bro.
@crackedsam7303
Жыл бұрын
Ah no wonder I wasn’t landing any interviews… I kept calling myself a “Developer” 😀
@CodingWithLewis
Жыл бұрын
If you reinstall Windows, HR thinks you’re a software engineer
@kumarraj197
Жыл бұрын
@@earthblob2058 lol XD
@cyberneticbutterfly8506
Жыл бұрын
@@CodingWithLewis Seems like it's the HR positions that are in need of an overhaul. Only licensed software-HR staff with 8 years of education and a PHD in information systems are allowed to hire or fire software developers from now on. By my declaration!
@speedyfox9080
Жыл бұрын
Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers!
@christopheroliver148
Жыл бұрын
@@speedyfox9080 Calm down, Mr. Balmer!
@KamiKomplex504
11 ай бұрын
That's like saying there is a difference between a writer and an author, that one just writes words and the other develops a plot. There is no such thing as someone that "just writes code" but doesn't have an understanding of what they write as a whole.
@ninjasiren
Жыл бұрын
Im an IT and CS graduate with a focus on CISCO networking, databases, and programming. But I also have a printing and design shop business, and yes the printer joke hits hard 😅
@crankyunicorn4423
Жыл бұрын
humm is exactly the same thing what you want to call someone that design a flow is a project designer or project architect. software engineer is a more academic naming a programmer was someone that setup the first programable machines and then someone that write codes on punch cards
@yassinesafraoui
Жыл бұрын
I guess programmers are pretty rare compared to software engineers
@leroypowell-louis499
Жыл бұрын
They are both Software Engineers 🤦♂️
@brenoverissimo3846
Жыл бұрын
But of course, printer fixing is a skill that all of us learn by environment pressure
@user2C47
Жыл бұрын
That's a big nope from me. The MFP is a big black box. If it breaks, call the mfg. We have that contract for a reason. I'll continue to use my indestructible daisywheel from the 80s.
@___idk
10 ай бұрын
lol even as a student needs to learn how to fix basic issues of printer when having many schoolworks
@ashtinpeaks9972
9 ай бұрын
@@___idk 90% colleges have a lab you can print shit out lmao.
@Tlion2102
7 ай бұрын
I am a technical engineer so that is something well I am trained to fix. I think everyone should do a year of technical support, like you just understand how to use your IT equipment then you can actually do work
@HerbertLandei
Жыл бұрын
If someone asks me, I just say "highly trained code monkey", I think that clarifies all
@0x007A
Жыл бұрын
Code monkeys are the copy-and-paste wannabes. They are a plague upon the profession. It has gotten worse with the arrival of ChatGPT and brethren.
@andyangel9818
10 ай бұрын
I think is for the best, anything higher that that is very stressful and I don t think is worth it dude
@MikoYae
4 ай бұрын
@@andyangel9818i wholefully agree with this
@nathaaaaaa
3 ай бұрын
The stronger ape among the apes
@TheSdrubs
Жыл бұрын
Here in Brazil we can translate as: the first one does exactly the same as the second one, but is paid half the money.
@davibassani16
Жыл бұрын
Então, cara... Bem assim hahahahaha
@wolfcraft4501
9 ай бұрын
I’ve heard this exact same clarification be used with “Coder” in the place of programmer here and “Programmer” in the place of software engineer here.
@delarosae
Жыл бұрын
When I tell people I can code in x language they automatically think I’m good with computers and can fix any issues related to hardware 😭
@plyjhny
10 ай бұрын
People always seem to confuse IT with Dev. Totally different. One is like a car mechanic, the other is like car engineer
@twothreeoneoneseventwoonefour5
10 ай бұрын
@@plyjhny Car engineer can probably fix cars though as they know everything about them so much to create them (different, higher level of expertise). People who write code usually don't know about system administration on the high level though. But I mean, if you tell someone that you can code in C++ or Rust, you ARE probably "good with computers"(from normal people's perspective), can reinstall their Windows or fix the "why this web page doesn't open (vpn)" or "how can I open this video file".
@plyjhny
10 ай бұрын
I dont think your average car engineer could fix most cars quick enough to make it profitiable. Example, I can create great food but I dont know the first thing about being a chef. Also, yes a dev probably could setup Windows, or a VPN. Not quickly tho. But your average Dev is not going to be able to manage system administration, technical support, network security. They might understand it, but would be very very inefficient @@twothreeoneoneseventwoonefour5
@EJD339
4 ай бұрын
@@plyjhnyand people confuse IT with people who know how to program lol.
@CodingWithLewis
Жыл бұрын
Reminder: lots of companies will use these interchangeably.
@tinahalder8416
Жыл бұрын
I am System Analyst, need to everything a Software Engineer does but in lower level 🙃
@punchkitten874
Жыл бұрын
Cause there's only so many adjectives you can put in front of "programmer" (chief, lead, assistant, etc)
@conundrum2u
4 ай бұрын
@@tinahalder8416SAs and BSAs do really important work, actually. Unfortunately not a lot of managers push to have people with that role on teams these days.
@nytehawx
7 күн бұрын
And a lot of companies do not understand the concepts of the two. It's like use Electricians and Electrical Engineers interchangeably.
@abykuruvilla
Жыл бұрын
I am a Software engineer. It kinda gets merky in companies nowadays. Rarely have people who just write code, if you can write code you can probably also design one to some extent. But there will be people who have more strength in coding than designing or vice versa. The lower you're in the seniority level, the less designing you usually do. Mostly when you're joining a company your title will simply be a reflection of your education, engineers,developers,programmers they'll do the same job.
@Adomas_B
Жыл бұрын
General engineer and managing programmer of the grand committee of software developerment
@gillsejusbates6938
Жыл бұрын
no you are a developper
@abykuruvilla
Жыл бұрын
@@gillsejusbates6938I take care of the end to end life cycle. Also by job title I am a Software Development Engineer.
@RealDrTaco
11 ай бұрын
I am in my 2nd year of my 1st job out of college. I am a fully fledged software engineer who has to design and develop software applications. I also do database stuff and write automation scripts for various uses.
@abykuruvilla
11 ай бұрын
@@RealDrTaco This is a very small startup?
@khuongle2400
Жыл бұрын
Programmer, developer, software engineer are the same job, only seniority level that decide your responsibility. Meanwhile I had to to do all the things since fresher level
@NutsNBerries
2 ай бұрын
Didn’t take me long to figure this part out
@ernststravoblofeld
Жыл бұрын
I have called myself both. They are the same. No difference. Software engineer is what you tell your parents because it sounds better.
@msc8382
Жыл бұрын
Unless you apply engineering principles, you're not an engineer. Programmers perform programming, and are not by definition required to follow engineering principles. In my country, calling yourself engineer is only justified by having a formal title from graduating from an engineering course of at least 4 years from a government acknowledged university. Technically speaking, you'd be committing fraud if you do not apply engineering principles but call yourself an engineer. Practically speaking I don't care. I've met people who call themselves engineer and can't even do engineering basics. Its very hard to take someone like that serious. It always feels like you have to spell out the consequences that are obvious. On the other hard, I've met programmer's who are better than seasoned engineers because they can ask the right questions so its almost like you can just follow along neatly. That's exciting.
@sorvex9
5 ай бұрын
@@msc8382Nobody cares about your opinion
@systemhalifax1241
4 ай бұрын
@@msc8382nah, they’re still software engineers because they deal with software. No need to think hard for it.
@NutsNBerries
2 ай бұрын
Yes😂😂😂😂😂
@jm.101
Жыл бұрын
Honestly feels like a contrived distinction.
@Cranked1
11 ай бұрын
@@SiimKoger your definitions are worse than the already bad definition in the video. that's not what these roles mean in the industry
@ilikestuff8218
6 ай бұрын
Computer Science to other Tech Degrees is like Mechanical Engineering to other Engineering Degrees. Just like Mechanical Engineering can do Electrical, Chemical, Civil, Biomedical, Nuclear and other Engineering. Computer Science can do Information Technology, Software Engineering, Networking, Cyber Security, Data Analytics and other Tech Jobs.
@luisalexleite
3 ай бұрын
@@SiimKoger Where I live, the "software engineer" role is related to people that work on higher level stuff like low-code or no code.
@shirakuyanai4095
Жыл бұрын
Independent full-stack developers: 👁️👄👁️
@shadowstrike3724
Жыл бұрын
Class SoftwareEngineer(Programmer): ....
@prodbykelvin7508
10 ай бұрын
Haha 😂
@s1l3nttt
Жыл бұрын
Okay, so it's basically just a different name, because if you build something, you have to do plan it regardless, at some level.
@richardtiong
Жыл бұрын
Not all software engineers do software architecture.
@isvogor
Жыл бұрын
You just explained the difference between a software engineer and a software architect
@CodingWithLewis
Жыл бұрын
Not true. A software engineer is a general area where you work on the entire stack of software in one way or another. This could be through software architecture (which is a more specialized role). A programmer, is more specifically working on a piece of the software rather than the higher picture.
@brinckau
Жыл бұрын
I am a programmer who can do lots of things, but I would not call myself a software engineer, because I don't have the theoretical knowledge to be one.
@isvogor
Жыл бұрын
@@CodingWithLewis Yep, true. In fact programmer is just a colloquial term. In my career so far I have never had a collegue that finished a "programming" school or had a title "programmer". The point you are trying to make is non-existing, and you are just referring to junior positions or internships. Software engineers by training get the knowledge you address, but to do architecture, by your own words, you are an architect. EOD
@leroypowell-louis499
Жыл бұрын
Again. Reminder. They are both Software Engineers because they both fucking deal with Software. It just like surgeons, opticians, gynecologist are all Doctors 🥼.
@brinckau
Жыл бұрын
@@leroypowell-louis499 They are all doctors, but not interchangeable. You don't want to see a gynecologist if you have an eye problem. If I wrote a "Hello, World" program, then I indeed programmed a computer, which makes me a programmer. Not the best programmer, but a programmer. But does it make me an engineer? I don't think so.
@IchBinZweiteDeutscheFlagge
9 ай бұрын
An architects dream is an engineers nightmare
@nrrizki86
Ай бұрын
From my point of view, the software engineer is both the engineer and the architect, while the people who code are the construction workers. I haven't graduated yet, but while studying software engineering, I study software requirement, software design and architecture, and then software construction. In design and architecture, we learn how to design and plan how each modules work together. Haven't took software construction yet, but I should understand better how a software is developed.
@rashadzayn
24 күн бұрын
This video is dedicated to make controversy so the video get more comments get more traffic and virale, bretty cheap way SW engineer and developer and programmer are the same jop only the responsibility changes based on seniority don't get fooled👍
@calapout
Жыл бұрын
Where I live software engineer is a protected title that requires you to go to university and study some science classes like chemistry, math and physic. It goes on top of actual software design, maintenance and testing classes. Once you’re done you also need to register to the order pf engineers or you can’t legally wear the title. Without it you can only call yourself a programmer or developper.
@tanjeeschuan4999
Жыл бұрын
Germany?
@calapout
Жыл бұрын
@@tanjeeschuan4999 No, canada. I'm not sure it applies for the whole country, but it does in the province of quebec at least. every province has it's own order of engineers that decide the required criteria to be admissible. Calling yourself an engineer here without being member of an order could result in a fine.
@StarryNightSky587
5 ай бұрын
@@tanjeeschuan4999 germany does not give a single sh*t, as long as you have 2 hands and ever saw a computer before, they will hire you
@JoachimFosse
7 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure this is how you end up with teams making choices like: Let's make the fresh out-of-school junior engineer rewrite the entire legacy tech monolith from scratch with all of the state-of-the-art methods & best practices he learned in school. He's probably much more qualified than the senior programmers we have with years of experience with our legacy stack
@shankhathefirst
Жыл бұрын
I simply have an interest in coding for doing competitive programming but I still get called to fix printers, fridges and even water filters 💀💀 (I'm a high school student who recently passed out)
@CodingWithLewis
Жыл бұрын
Water filters 😂😂
@remot1
Жыл бұрын
"Sorry, I can't help you fix the water filter" "But- But- You code-"
@shankhathefirst
Жыл бұрын
@@remot1 It goes more like; "Sorry, I won't be able to fix your water filter" "Wdym you won't be able to? You do stuff with computers all the time right. What use is your internet connection?" *tinkers around with the filter and either it gets fixed by itself OR just say a random issue and tell them to get a specialist to replace the filtering unit because I'm famously bad with handling stuff 😎*
@getamo
Жыл бұрын
Damn passed out sounds scary. Are u ok? 😂
@shankhathefirst
Жыл бұрын
@@getamo passed out as in high school pass out 😅
@LukasCarrein
10 күн бұрын
the printers "joke" is actually funny but like a week ago i needed to fix somebodys printer becaude i know python
@Nakhaan
Жыл бұрын
In France, being an 'Engineer' is a title like Professor or Doctor. You earned it after graduating from an engineering school. Computer science is the only area where the 'Engineer' title is used interchangeably because companies do so. Therefore, people with no engineering xp call themselves software Engineer. It's like the word has lost its prestige since it's usually harder to complete an engineering school, so people putting in the effort to complete those might not even be recognized to their true value. People shouldn't not call themselves Engineer if they are not. But then again, it's just a title, you can find more competent people that haven't done engineering school
@ridabrahim7604
7 ай бұрын
in France people are more about titles than actual skills, it's the bragging culture over there, this comes from early ages since french people wore wigs and did makeup 😂, there is no prestige in 2024 only who can get shit done, life rewards the hard workers
@Ecrios
11 ай бұрын
Thx for this vague explanation. Based on it, there's nearly no difference :3
@MrNiceGuy442
11 ай бұрын
A Software engineer is a programmer and a programmer will eventually one day become a software engineer.
@Strange_tiger047
Ай бұрын
Then what does the job of AI creation and management called? Love you content
@malikau917
Жыл бұрын
First time I disagree. For hyped word “architecture” we have Cloud Crew. They are amazing guys for sure, they do “highly loaded systems” - clusterization, load balancing and so on but they don’t know what’s going on with micro services, databases and Elastic configurations which I’m in charge of, not as proficient in Java and overall it’s just a different specific role in the IT sphere. With that being said theirs tasks doesn’t make them “software engineers” and me just a “programmer”
@mut57
Жыл бұрын
Programmers are the disposable people of the software industry while the engineers are worth their weight in gold. At least that's what one of my professors used to say
@friedec3622
Жыл бұрын
Software engineers not only do architecture, they're also laying the bricks. They write the code, test them, do deployment, or even the infrastructure to scale up the application. Where else we can find architect who also mixing semen? Only in software development.
@filip1957
Жыл бұрын
I think you meant to say cement... Not semen
@theultimateevil3430
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the code monkeys came up with a new label for themselves. Finished learning SOLID?
@SiviweXakaza
Ай бұрын
One is has a job, the other is unemployed
@SASA_maxillo
8 ай бұрын
So software engineers don't write code????
@0x007A
Жыл бұрын
I posit 90% of software engineers are strictly programmers with a "more impressive" job title. A systems analyst used to perform the roles now labeled programmer and software engineer, plus they had the additional responsibility of the modern-day business systems analyst bridging the business and technology concerns within an organization.
@DrSoftman
Ай бұрын
None of these jobs are qualified to exit Vim.
@yunsha9986
Жыл бұрын
There's no difference in a company if you are a software developer or engineer, you will be expected to work the same way because your product owner doesn't even know wtf the difference is anyways. So just call yourself a software engineer. Heck I work as a DevOps engineer, and I do only 20% things on pipelines and servers, most other stuff are toolings and likely could be done by a software engineer/dev.
@ilikestuff8218
6 ай бұрын
Computer Science to other Tech Degrees is like Mechanical Engineering to other Engineering Degrees. Just like Mechanical Engineering can do Electrical, Chemical, Civil, Biomedical, Nuclear and other Engineering. Computer Science can do Information Technology, Software Engineering, Networking, Cyber Security, Data Analytics and other Tech Jobs.
@modestman6753
Ай бұрын
Yeah computer science = software engineering. If they have difference, it will be only 20% at most ✅️
@EricRohlfs
Жыл бұрын
It used to be about discipline. Engineers have standards, write unit tests, document, strive for the software to have a life beyond them. Programmers used to be specialized typists. Today technically very little difference between the two, unless you are and IEEE guy.
@subhstha-j6b
2 ай бұрын
An IT support can fix the printer 😂
@ОаоАоа-й2м
Жыл бұрын
Well no, software engineer is still an engineer, so he must be able to replace crankshaft in my 1976 honda accord
@Satyabanlvl2
10 ай бұрын
Well in which category do you fall
@Darkerfoxtech
Жыл бұрын
Nobody can fix printers. Back in the day those things became sentient and hate every one of us.
@michaellittle5792
Жыл бұрын
Bro I had a help desk job in the military for a few years and I STILL wasn't qualified to fix a printer. Repairs and maintenance were contracted out so we couldn't touch anything.
@wtl912
Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about IT Engineer vs. Printer Engineer ?
@punchkitten874
Жыл бұрын
In the late '80's, my relative was in charge of an international project to take an existing American industrial inventory program and bring to European markets. This is pre-EU, so the program had to be rewritten for each individual country according to their existing systems and laws. His title? Chief Programmer. I think he would consider "software engineer" to be much the same as "sanitation engineer" - y'know, if it makes you feel better... 🤷
@dragoneer121
10 ай бұрын
Here in Australia they are both the same, we call it software developer too
@godbleak
Жыл бұрын
FF: In Canada, there's a pretty big difference. The title "Engineer" is strictly regulated. If you're a Software Engineer in Canada, you're an _actual_ Professional Engineer, meaning you obtained an Engineering degree, Completed the necessary work experience, and passed the Professional Practice Exam. A programmer in Canada, is someone who programs.
@JeersNX
Жыл бұрын
AND NOT INTENDED TO DAMN HACK YOUR FACEBOOK ACCOUNT *me staring at my grandma*
@StarryNightSky587
5 ай бұрын
For me it mostly manifested in terms of uncertainty. Easiest sh*t was FE Dev, where you get 100% predesigned stuff and the project/framework are decided for you, all the way to Full-Stack Multiwizard where you will do everything and anything from ETL python to "why is the button 10px to the right", also why are the 300 other endpoints not ready for a project where we only even know half of what is to be.
@bitwize
3 ай бұрын
No, a software engineer is not a programmer who makes higher-level decisions. Those are decisions you'd have to make anyway if your program is of significant size. The term "software engineering" was originally used by pioneers in the field like Margaret Hamilton by analogy with disciplines like chemical engineering. A chemist might discover a new reaction with which to synthesize new chemicals; the work of a chemical _engineer_ is to turn a chemical reaction into a process to synthesize chemicals at industrial scales. Similarly, a programmer writes software, but the work output of the software engineer is not software -- it is a process which, if followed by programmers, is supposed to generate software at large scale, repeatedly, within time and budget constraints. Of course it rarely works that way in practice because software isn't really an engineering discipline. For that reason I'd rather be a programmer than a software engineer, just like I'd rather be a writer than a literature engineer (e.g., perhaps someone like Francine Pascal, who has a team of ghostwriters who grind out Sweet Valley novels from her rough plot sketches).
@paraducks314
Жыл бұрын
ALSO YOU CAN NOT CALL YOURSELF A ENGINEER IF YOU DONT HAVE A ENGINEERING DEGREE! It like calling ourself a docter without a docter degree. you dont need a degree to be a programmer, but you do need one to call yourself a software engineer.
@TomBarber-s6b
3 ай бұрын
So I’m a web developer and lots of web developers have started calling themselves software engineers. I don’t understand what you’re saying though, you’re describing an architect. Engineers are just devs that’s don’t like being called devs
@universebot2363
6 ай бұрын
Im not sure if making this distinction does make sense. If you mean people just plain on writing code within or using a specified/agreed upon framework/style then Software Developer vs Software Engineer/Architect would be a better pair of names. IMO both are Programmers and to some extend the developer has to be a little architect to be able to fit his solution within the architected/designed context.
@StNashable
4 ай бұрын
Software engineering is inherited from the Programmer.
@vaisakhkm783
4 ай бұрын
Both extends developer interface
@ShiloBuff
Жыл бұрын
To me a Software Engineer is a developer/programmer that has proper education for it. I don't think ill ever be able to call myself one because i'll mostlikely be forever self taught, even if im a professional.
@jeremywindfield2658
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know man, I’m also self taught yet I’m working amongst devs that have degrees and I am at the same level if not a higher level than them, I’ll just call myself a Software Engineer
@darth_ohma
5 ай бұрын
I dont know where or why the elder in my country think that IT can fix literally every electrical stuff. I heard a story my friend cousin he graduated IT and his uncle as why he spend 4 years studying IT and can not fix a simple washing machine broke for some reason. Also they asume that at least anyone study IT can fix computer. Yeah it can be understand but then when ask for replacing the broken component which sometime hard to find because those computer use old components they like what the hell you suppose to do that with less cost money have you learn nothing in IT school if the motherboard or cpu or gpu or anything broke just fix it.... At least that story I heard 😂
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6 ай бұрын
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@robinator18ps3
Жыл бұрын
Stop with these "Explained" overcomplications.... You know as well as I do that the title "Engineer" or "developer" etc. etc. just depends on what that pericular company is calling it.... Of course there are companies with title inflation trying to be cool and use multiple titles, but majority of companies only use one. And a minority of them actually use "Programmer"....
@Synthwave89
Жыл бұрын
I thought Software engineers were the ones that build the tools that software developers use to build their apps. Like, if I make an Android app, I am a software dev, and whoever designs Intellij/Android Studio and Kotlin/Java, as well as the Android libraries, are Software Engineers. But I guess I was overthinking it.
@spectrejohnson6535
3 ай бұрын
This is total bs, there is no difference, I've never met a programmer that can't do the architecture. In order for you to be an effective programmer you obviously need to be aware and understand the architecture in which you're working. How are you going to communicate with other micro services in your code if you have no idea what a message queue is?
@DrAndyShick
3 ай бұрын
I would also say that a software engineer must have gone to college. A bunch of people will tell me I'm wrong, but as far as I'm concerned, if you didn't major in engineering or something pretty similar, you're not an engineer.
@DippedToast
10 ай бұрын
It's the same thing
@tyggna
29 күн бұрын
They're pretty much synonyms. My experience that most companies delineate the differences you describe his as a junior/entry position vs a intermediate or senior level position.
@TGameDev
11 ай бұрын
As someone whos been doing tech support for over 10 years it is going to feel SOO good just throwing things over the way and feigning ignorance. "Printer? Oh you must need the help desk. Theyre 6 cubes over, thanks."
@mgs_4k198
10 ай бұрын
These distinctions are misleading. Every good programmer must plan and think holistically about what they're doing. Only a bad programmer will just write code.
@rosesunflow9560
2 ай бұрын
Just because I'm a programmer does not mean I know how to fix your printer! I mean, I can fix it... but not because I'm a programmer.
@mathew142
3 ай бұрын
None of the so called software engineer are programmers anymore. Software engineer are developers who aren't programmers. Programmers are more concerned about problem solving and math behind it. Developers and software engineer are people are who are in to technologies need for development and it's sustainability.
@paulsoaresjr12345678
Жыл бұрын
Got a software engineer degree and even a master degree in IT management. But over all it was useless they teach you close to 100 different things, never show the full picture, leaveall of the work for the students to find out and covid basically mate all of the professors lazy to do there job.I literally now have to get ready to get a training job in cyber security to be able to work even a tiny bit as a programmer. I loved tech , I loved programming in school but university ruined it for me. They teach more buslhit then usefull stuff. Also the stuff they do teach you will be lucky if you learn 30% of that program. The studies are a joke granyed I did pass everything and it shows that I can learn and do all of it. But I need to find a job were they will literally teach me from 0 and to the end of it. If I ever find anything like it I will gladly put all my effort in to learning it.
@thecommenter5086
5 ай бұрын
Program is a set of codes And Software engineers use Programming languages to build software or application. If one has engineering degree or equivalent degree then he/she is an engineer. If he has no degree we can call him programmer. Engineering degree is required because, mathematics skill and other knowledge is needed.
@rakacoustic8127
Жыл бұрын
I’m studying information technology engineering at university, but I’m bad at math. I can’t even learn calculus 1 or do simple algebra. Can I still become a software engineer?”
@97oweb
11 ай бұрын
Well, nobaby can fix printers Im a mechatronics and I can confirm they are just pure evil You can however bargain with printers about working for some time byfor example trading in the soul of steve from second floor
@karma1507
6 ай бұрын
I like the analogy comparing them to builders and architects.
@puzzlick7088
10 ай бұрын
So software engineers are just a fancy title for people who program a little bit more than programmers
@ov3rload333
Жыл бұрын
Ok ok, myself included, you just insulted a whole community and reignited an old war. Architects design everything and construction just puts it together and fixes the issues? Oh boi, here we go again
@Aryae_Sakura
Жыл бұрын
I mean we probably know how to fix your printer XD BUT THATS NOT THE ONLY PURPOSE FOR THAT YOU SHOULD CALL US DEREK XD
@loc7s
8 ай бұрын
Come on buddy, In real life you’re not going to find a job opening anywhere that has the title of “programmer” Your position level determines your responsibilities. This one it total misinformation
@-scrmbled
4 ай бұрын
Programmer it is
@fallout__boy1130
11 ай бұрын
kill the ego ffs, they are the same. You just want to feel superior. Any programmer can easely step into "architecture"' and high level overview.
@wesleymcbob
2 ай бұрын
lame and stupid hard disagree software engineer is a job title, programmer is a descriptor. like "painter" vs "graphic designer"
@Festivejelly
Жыл бұрын
Tbh this isnt true these days. Most are either front end, back end of full stack devs, then you have devops people and developers in test etc. The comparison between programmers and software engineers is very outdated and not really useful.
@3rdGen-Media
Жыл бұрын
Why do so many people that don’t know shit about the field have social media channels about learning software development? Its like cool to be one now so everybody thinks they should try to be one? Or do they just fail at everything else and they assume this is something they won’t give up on?
@sanjeevkumargupta5171
10 ай бұрын
I was confused btw what I should become a programmer or a software engineer. Well thanks for telling the difference. I will become a printer ;)
@petermtika8237
4 ай бұрын
😂🤣🤣. Parents will make you fix the charging base on their phones because you are a programmer or software engineer
@Grinwa
Жыл бұрын
Lol 😅😅😅 I fix phones printers pcs remove malware fix internet issues fix network issues of my friends neighbors and family
@headhunterz1000
Жыл бұрын
Ehh it's not that clear. In some countries the term engineer is a protected title Gaines by studying to become a engineer. In other countries this is not the case. There is no real industry standard and as you say the term developer, programmer, SWE is used interchangeably. I find that mosten often the terms senior os architect hints a lot more to what the person does even though it still is very different from company to company
@skrmgrm
Жыл бұрын
I'm an embedded software engineer and we program multifunctional printers, technically I can fix printers :P
@yashmali5754
Жыл бұрын
Can a full stack developer be called software engineer?
@alexwholland
Жыл бұрын
No
@i_zoru
Жыл бұрын
so i do code + making flowchart, analyze, and testing, also CI/CD stuff, i am a software engineer now ?
@amriteshkr8
Жыл бұрын
well that means i am a software engineer
@RS-nc5qx
11 ай бұрын
The competition today is so high that only software engineers are expected to exist. The days of being a coder are long gone. It is not longer a Job to be a coder, but a tool for your job.
@georgecop9538
Жыл бұрын
Tired of the same Linux kernel code background with group info. At least use the code of iouring or slab allocator.
@linguistme6870
10 ай бұрын
Emotional DAMAGE , my Civil ENgineer friends consider Architects one level below them
@dawnriddler
Жыл бұрын
None, cause no one is going to hire you to be SE with an SE diploma. You start as a programmer, just like everyone else.
@hrishikeshkashyap3715
6 ай бұрын
If that is your definition of a "Software Engineer", then, in today's world, there are no "Software Engineer"s.
@jiaxin4116
Жыл бұрын
Oh boy will the comment EXPLODE with arguments regarding engineers and architects XDDD
@raerae4752
3 ай бұрын
Every architect i know cant frame a simple door nor window. Total disrespect to us contractors.
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