Just want to say I enjoyed your video! Thank you. As the owner of the company I have tens of thousands of miles the on the V20 and the other Cruzbike models. I don't think there is any basis for Cruzbikes being any different than other bikes. I've seen a lot of traditional bike riders crash with flats/blowouts. Theoretically, your legs can add extra stability when you get a flat while you slow down. I clip out and lower my legs at the first hint of tire trouble. I think people who are tuned-in to their bike's feel are less likely to go down with a flat than those who aren't. In my opinion, high speed is a risk for going down with a flat, and the V20 is fast. Being a beginner is also a risk factor for crashing with a flat... another reason beginners should hold back on the high-speeds until they get very comfortable on the bike. Finally, a front flat on a traditional bike would just as likely send you over the handlebars with a head injury or broken clavicle. Cruzbikes are much safer in this regard.
@davidfalgout7304
5 жыл бұрын
THAT IS SIMPLY your Point of view. I know your race history. You have skills that mere mortals do not. Everyone that I know including myself, had a much harder time going straight with a MBBFWD bike. It is like gravity. Gravity is real. You can deny all you want. DOES NOT matter, it is real. Push on the pedal of a FWDMBB ( CB) and you will certainly veer!! I dare you to say other wise!
@PrescottHome
5 жыл бұрын
Maria, interesting you should describe getting an explosive front tire blowout. A few years ago, on the Hoodoo 300, I was descending a 24 mile screamer down to Cedar City at around 2AM. Cold. Lots of road kill from trucks. At about 30 mph I got an explosive front tire blowout. Because I was on the recumbent (Bacchetta Ti Aero) I was able to stay upright and safely brake to a stop. I immediately unclipped from the pedals and put my feet/shoes on the road, creating a four point stab;e contact. My crew was more shocked than I was because they heard the blowout and then saw a trail of bright sparks from the cleats on my shoes. Light show!
@joechristian9566
4 жыл бұрын
Putting your feet down at speed is a terrible idea. It's a great way to shred your ankles and legs. I did it once on my ti-aero. My cycle shoe caught the pavement and hyperextended outwards. The tendons and muscles were strong and it tore the bone on the top of my foot. The doctors all said that I was lucky that the bone let go instead of suffering torn ligaments. After that, I now stay clipped in, I tuck my elbows and take the road rash. One podiatrist actually said he sees injuries from cyclists putting feet down often. He's a cyclist himself and recommends staying clipped in.
@garyp.7501
4 жыл бұрын
@@joechristian9566 I fell on my S30 and my shoe caught as I was sliding and it ripped the shoe out of the cleat and I too broke the tip on the Fibula. It also stretched the tendons on my foot. It has taken a year to recover.
@recyclespinning9839
4 жыл бұрын
You know on tube old glue on tires as we called them " sew ups" . when you have a blow out your flat tire is still glued to the rim and you are not skating on the rim, so you still have some rubber and a bit of a chance at bringing your bike under control.
@devster52
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you gave some insight on switching from a recumbent to a CruzBike. I have been riding a Bacchetta Giro 20 for about 6 years and the CruzBikes are starting to catch my interest a little bit. Always looking to try to improve my performance and go a little faster but at 68 I want to keep a close eye on safety as well.
@binarumah
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Walker.
@RICKLC1
4 жыл бұрын
I own Vendetta V20 , I love my V20 this is my first recumbent , ITS FAST, COMFORTABLE, planning to do across florida this coming year.
@RaneBane
2 жыл бұрын
What does IT feel like when you really come onto it on a FWD? Do pedal strokes take your front wheel offline? I feel like you would lose a little momentum like that.
@sseisup
5 жыл бұрын
Great review, I have a diy Cruzbike and I’m having similar experiences. I’m working on my hill climbing on the trainer over the winter but I’ve also used Maria Parker’s sit up technique from her RAAM movie “HOPE” by 3000 miles for a cure and it seems to make climbing easier.
@bwalker642
5 жыл бұрын
I need to watch that video again. The hill climbing has been killing me. Thanks for the call out. I will check out her video again.
@PrescottHome
4 жыл бұрын
Among top line recumbents there is little difference in terms of climbing technology. I'm of the persuasion that `bikes' don't climb. Cyclists climb. A fit cyclist, with recumbent experience, is a good climber. While upright cyclists can stand on the pedals to assist in climbing recumbent cyclists ... it's all leg muscle (ankle pedaling can really make a difference, too). Contrary to what some report re: FWD/MBB bikes pushing and pulling on the handlebars while climbing does not help in climbing. In some situations (steep) the fact that the rider's weight being over the rear wheel ... a FWD/MBB can slip. Finally, my experience is that a FWD/MBB bike is unstable on fast, twisty descents.
@markthomasson5077
Жыл бұрын
Do you get any wheel spin up steep slippy hills?
@Mariposaland
5 жыл бұрын
I love the Cruzbike. I have the S40. it would be slower than the V20 if you are looking at changing. The biggest con is I can't ride it slower than maybe 3 mph without the risk of falling over. I have close to 700 miles on mine so maybe I can get better. The largest pro is the lack of pain. That was a big one for me due to arthritis in my neck. Keep the videos coming.
@bwalker642
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the encouragement. I can’t ride slower than 5 mph so you are doing better than me. I am still working on the perfect neck position. I did end up adding some padding to the neck support on the v20. I also tend to raise my head up over bumps since it can beat your neck and head up pretty good if the road is really rough.
@Taoweiji
2 жыл бұрын
I’d really like to know the speed differences between the V20 and normal diamond frame road bikes. Especially the climbing. My VTX is fast, until there’s an incline. Then it automatically goes into Molasses Speed.
@derekpirie9188
5 жыл бұрын
Bob and David. Reading both of your comments, or should that be attacks of each other, should rather get together and sort it out from one Bent to another. For that matter I have 3 Bents; # A home built LWB with under seat steering. A challenge to ride as there is No upper body assistance. Legs only... I have raced it in two Major events from my home Town. # A Cruzbike Freerider that I imported in 2008 into South Africa. And also raced in local events. # my third Bent is one that I built from a 20" Dahon folding bike into a 26" MBBFWD. Complete in December 2018. I do agree that the MBBFWD's are different to ride. The technique that I have learnt is, it to think. I say this because if you think then you will do the opposite to what you should do. But, they have their place and may not be for everyone. My youngest brother rode the Freerider first time out with the weave, or wobble as on calls it. However after 5 minutes was rock steady, straight. Both of us have competed in cycling events together, him on the Freerider and myself on the LWB. With that in mind I can say with confidence that I am and feel a lot safer on the Freerider than the LWB. I prefer a full body workout from the Cruzbike than the legs only LWB. I love my Cruzbike and my Dahon Convert MBBFWD's. Good luck to both of you from a Bent rider.
@billwightman32
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. You talked about flatting the front tire. I did that once at about 20 mph on my V20 on straight dry pavement and I did not crash but I was able to head for some grass just in case and all was well. Almost always get my flats in front. I am chilling out for a while and have assembled the original wheels and Gatorskins front and back. I can feel the extra drag even though I just lowered my frontal profile and other speed tweeks. Also, these tough tires are really slow in cold weather. The best speeds on a highly armored/reinforced tire are in the hot summer after most of the rubber has been worn off. Be careful if you are riding on an old hard oxidized tire especially in the cold because they will slip on road seams, tracks, and small steps in the road. Took me a year to get over a slow speed splat to the pavement because I was using an old hard Gatorskin on a cold night. V20 is awesome if for no other reason that there are so many ways to modify or adjust stuff just for the heck of it. Downhills are easy but I stop pedaling at 30 mph because I run out of gearing. My best/max steady speed is with a 23 mph group. No way can I keep up with a Cat 1 group of racers. Heart rate goes way too high for any distance riding but is good for the body. One of the main cool features of the V20 is that you can always catch the group you are riding with if you get cut off at a light (except the racers...). I am always the bike at the back of the group at a gap of about 10 lengths who is providing a high output daytime slow blink red light (Dinotte makes some good daytime lights).
@garyp.7501
4 жыл бұрын
I second that on the Dinotte lights! By far the best.
@DanWolf000
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos Walker. I am new to the V20 family and I have watched all of your videos and can't wait for more. I want to know how you are doing in season two.
@bwalker642
4 жыл бұрын
I am glad you liked them. I have moved to the mountains and am planning to switch to Mountain Biking just for more variety. I will try to get a few out there, but I haven't been planning on doing much road cycling. Congratulations on your V20. It is so much fun to ride. I definitely learned a lot about pushing the limits of my personal endurance and it is so much fun to ride with a group and compete. Good luck with your journey!
@CuHead1
4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy my old Silvio because I can easily pull up off the seat back and sit straight up. That helps with slow maneuvers or with absorbing bumps. Silvio has a Fox air shock for front suspension, and I have it set at about 170psi for absorbing bumps. I also weigh about 170#'s. I can hear it when it compresses fast. I sit up and hang off the bars (off the seat back) for uncomfortable bumps, or for extreme uphills, or for tight slow turns. How do you handle the bumps and steep uphill twisties on your rigid Vendetta? Any body english? I've been on the Silvio for over two years. Earlier, I had about 60 years of various 'standard' bike styles. I have a Silvio 1.0, Campy 30 speed Comp Triple derailleur, Campy Centaur brakes, & Centaur Ultra-Shift ErgoPower control levers. I had one rear tire flat while riding downhill at over 20mph. I could hear a big fast air leak, it was a tube failure, but it was not a blowout. I hit the brakes pretty hard and they stopped me about the same time the tire was flat. I'm impressed with those 'old' Campy rim brakes.
@bwalker642
4 жыл бұрын
If I am on a bumpy road, I will lift my head for the bumps. That seems to mostly work. The only other challenge is my water bottles will shake out and sometimes eject onto the road. so kinda irritating.
@CuHead1
4 жыл бұрын
My Silvio had a couple mods done before I bought it. One is zip ties to help hold water bottles. My bike has two bottle cages behind the seat back. The previous owner used a zip tie around the cage at about mid-bottle. I have never lost a water bottle on this setup. I have some experience with this Silvio, but I feel I just have one toe in the water. Hot humid Virginia... May do a century ride yet this year, and hope to find smooth roads.
@GR-cf4qh
3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that traction might also be an issue, particularly on steep climbs with slick conditions.
@ke0nc
Жыл бұрын
I ride a Cruzbike Sofrider on mostly gravel trails. One steep hill is certainly a challenge, as the tire slips with every push of the pedal.
@BloodyJMF
Жыл бұрын
Im kind of riding a similar bike. I have a 28" Flevo Racer which is the precursor to the Cruzbikes. A bit more agile while steering and a lot less drag for more weight and no real Steering bar. A few unmentioned things: FWD is inherently problematic on gravel, to the point where it becomes undriveable on inclines since you are lacking the weight on the propelled tire. FWD recumbent are pure Street machines. BUT: If you are enjoying Speed and ease of driving this is the ultimate marginal gains bike. I use my racer for commutes as soon as the weather is okayish. Low drag, an eye out for rolling resistance and you even can add a recumbent bag for storage and more cw gains. Even packed up to the max I can ride 33km/h without breaking a sweat. The safety aspect is something I had in head but never cared about before. Now after my crash I can safely say I would not have gotten away with the few blemishes I had on my recumbent.
@SafadosAteus
5 жыл бұрын
I already had an accident because of a sudden front tire flat with a regular low racer recumbent. That's not and exclusivity of the Cruzbike.
@atago1943
3 жыл бұрын
I like to know how much is it to own one.
@JustClaude13
4 жыл бұрын
For pelotons you need a high racer. That puts your body up where you can block the air a bit for the people behind you. Although it'll never be as good as the effect with a diamond frame.
@pm124
4 жыл бұрын
The problem is that the bike does not produce much wind drag. There is no air to push for the person behind you. Because recumbents are much faster, it's not a very social bike. Either you are not working very hard (and not getting a workout) or you are in a group of better-trained athletes than you and then they drop you on the first serious hill.
@garyp.7501
4 жыл бұрын
I had a blowout on my front tire at 20+ mph on my S30 and it got out of control for me and I went down hard. Only scrapes and a twisted ankle. I will second that, on a DF bike I likely would have gone over the bars.
@blueberryjapan6015
3 жыл бұрын
I agree that the Cruz. Bike is a fun bike to ride. It gives a work out to the stomach that upright bikes will not. People seeing it go by will remember it years later. There are downsides as well. In heavy city traffic, it is hard to balance on the first two peddles. I often have to weight for the cars to go by when on a narrow road which is often the case in Japan. I can’t see what the front tire is riding over which can cause it to lurch suddenly. You can’t get out of the seat when going over tough ground. The amount of trekking gear is limited to just the top of the rack. Recumbent bikes can not be taken on the train in Japan. Lastly, when. It rains hard, you will get much wetter than on an upright. I save it for short rides of no more than a couple of hours. I thought it funny, ‘up hill matches the speed of others.’ A recumbent can not climb steep hills.
@zeroblade6599
5 жыл бұрын
Does it try to turn when you push the pedal?
@bwalker642
5 жыл бұрын
It felt really wobbly the first 35ish miles. Then I realized when I stopped thinking about it it would go straight. When I passed someone or was riding close to someone, I would try to make it go straight then it would get wobbly. It really encourages a push and pull pedaling technique which I have heard is good but I am still learning. It also really works your core which I realized again when I started riding this year. Now when I really sprint, it goes straight and almost feels like I am flying up hills. From a learning perspective, I would say it is like learning to ride all over again. If you follow CruzBikes instructions you will do great. I think I made it through lesson 2 then thru on clip less pedals and went for it. Live and learn. I still love it this year. Once I stop riding, there is absolutely no pain which is awesome. I wish you the best if you are considering getting one.
@davidfalgout7304
5 жыл бұрын
The pedals on a FWDMBB CB when pushed/ pressed/ mashed will steer or veer the bike depending on how hard you exert yourself. Think of it like a see-saw. One side has to go up if the other side goes down. Read what I wrote above and then go think about it. THE CB folks are most excellent at promoting their product. THE CB concept is fun and does work at some level. But only you can decide what feels best and works for you. Just remember, CB has not worked out for nearly as many as other bents that the see-saw effect is stopped by a solid boom. IN other words CAVEAT EMPTOR!!! That said in a big flashing neon sign! There is nothing about the basic machine of a CB that makes it faster. Its only the motor pushing or spinning the pedals. Thats it! The few degrees of recline ( OF A CB) can more than be negated by a more trained athlete WHO IS riding a non FWDMBB.
@PrescottHome
5 жыл бұрын
Yes. But with not too much time and experience a rider accommodates to that and it becomes unnoticeable. While new to the Vendetta I attempted to accelerate on a twisty downhill and pushed the front wheel to the left, going down in a nasty fall. Roadrash and a few stitches but no broken bones. I should have known not to be aggressive without spending more time on the bike.
@davidfalgout7304
5 жыл бұрын
@@PrescottHome To be honest DAN, that can happen regardless of how much experience. That is just how the design works.
@sitoudien9816
5 жыл бұрын
Con Price Non adjustable seat on V and s40. Why???
@bwalker642
5 жыл бұрын
The head rest and pedals are adjustable so I haven’t really needed to adjust the seat. That being said, I am 6 ft so I can’t comment how well this works for different height people. Does anyone else have any input to getting the bike adjusted?
@sitoudien9816
5 жыл бұрын
I'm referring to the seat angle. Even the cheapest bike in the world has an adjustable seat. Resting your chin on your chest isn't the most ideal position. This could have been remedied with adjustable seat stays. But i'm sure cruzbike would say it isn't as strong and solid. Ultimately, it was the original designer's decision of one size fits all. And he was very adamant about it. I like the V20 over the S40 because of the longer wheel base and lower centre of gravity. The the fixed seat angle is the deal breaker.
@bwalker642
5 жыл бұрын
Oh that makes sense. The Vendetta is definitely designed for a singular purpose. I have seen some mods from one rider where he modified the seat to be adjustable. I have also heard if others adding different foam to change the seat angle. Would be cool if there was an accessory you could add on to make it adjustable if you didn’t mind the extra weight it would add. If anyone has experience making the seat adjustable, please drop a comment.
@sitoudien9816
5 жыл бұрын
For $4000 bike you shouldn't have to diy mod it for basic fit and comfort.
@davidfalgout7304
5 жыл бұрын
@@sitoudien9816 Many other things that are deal breakers also. The faults are not always that obvious.
@danfuerthgillis4483
3 жыл бұрын
I find it very suspicious that when people are trying to race on the road with the v20 they always have Aero carbon wheels never stock wheels so they get an edge over the smaller hills. There is no way to ride these bikes for 2 hours on up a mountain. Great bike if you live in flat areas ( Southern Ontario here) since there are no hills here.
@johnhenryb27
5 жыл бұрын
Overall, on group rides do you feel faster than diamond frames?
@bwalker642
5 жыл бұрын
I am at a B fitness level. I can match B riders on the uphill, but can ride with the A riders on straight and level. I can normally maintain 22-24 on level grades. On downhills, I leave everyone behind. Even on 1% to 3% decline, I can maintain 26-28 mph or if I want to sprint, I can bump my speed up to 32 to 36 mph. If you are a similar fitness level, you will have no problem keeping up unless there are a lot of hills. Even when you fall back, the guys have learned not to wait on me since I can almost always quickly catch up after the climb. I have even stopped drafting in the peloton. It is so easy, I get bored. That is what can be confusing with this bike. I start to think I am riding at an A level, but then we hit hills and they drop me. lol, I still need to drop about 30 to 40 pounds of weight to move up into the A riders.
@bwalker642
5 жыл бұрын
It depends. I don't think bags would work that great on a Vendetta. I have actually considered switching to an S40 so I could get into bike packing on paved and dirt roads. It is more luggage friendly I think. I just love going fast (although the s40 probably isn't that much slower) so I am kinda battling with myself. If I am riding on mountain bike trails, then I ride a diamond bike. A diamond bike is much easier to get going on rough terrain and maneuver quickly. I had a lot of seat pain and numbness on a diamond bike if I rode longer than 40 minutes. I think I could have worked through that with a different seat, but I also had issues with my back and neck hurting on long rides. I don't think that is something you work through rather you just have to endure it. I wouldn't go back, but I like riding for long periods of time and I like competing. The Vendetta was the best fit for that.
@johnhenryb27
5 жыл бұрын
@@bwalker642 In the spirit of gathering more data i wholeheartedly support you branching into the s40! XD Thank you for the videos and responses man. Invaluable.
@bwalker642
5 жыл бұрын
Lol, I have been battling with the thought. It would require me selling the Vendetta first. The V20 is just so much fun. Maybe I could just change the incline a little to simulate a s40. Hmmm...
@davidtseng5565
5 жыл бұрын
@@bwalker642 I think it's nice to own both S40 and V20. V20 is a road bike and S40, a hybrid. The problems are: 1. 40 degrees back rest angle would put too much weight on the buttock; 2. 70 degrees head tube angle results in too much front wheel flop. For these reasons, I think S30 is a better choice.
@PrescottHome
5 жыл бұрын
Much of what is stated about the pros and cons is general to all recumbents. This review is pretty ... uninformed.. Faster on flats and downhills bc of aerodynamic. IMHO (and experience with Vendetta, Silvio and Sofrider) climbing is a function of the fitness of the cyclist, not the bike. Carbon fiber frames bents weigh less than aluminum frames. Upright bikes CAN be faster if the cyclist stands on the pedals and shifts weight. For a lesson look at Christoph Strasser on the upright. Recumbents are safer than uprights when it comes to falling or crashing. Upright riders flip over the handlebars and/or fall from a greater height. In general recumbent bikes get a lot of positive attention. Uncommon. Generates curiosity. Recumbents are far less painful to ride. No saddle sores. No Shermer's neck. No wrist numbness. FWD/MBB bikes are a very different dynamic and, if the rider really thinks s/he needs a front wheel drive bike ... it takes time. But it can be done. Fitness level is a function of the rider, not the bike. Eliminate the aero and is no different. Front tire. Given that power is transferred to the front tire means that a blowout may have worse consequences on a FWD/MBB. But we all know (and some experienced) a front tire blowout on upright bike. A blowout on an upright means you're in store for an endover. I'd rather have a front tire blowout on a bent than and upright. Most, if not all, recumbents offer NO draft to upright bikes. The more aero the recumbent the less draft for wheelsuckers. psychling1.blogspot.com/
@davidfalgout7304
5 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE CORRECT DAN!
@StealthElectronVIP
4 жыл бұрын
Lol aggressive KZitem comments. Think about your life bro
@ravenone6255
5 жыл бұрын
More Cons: can't wheely,no hand ride🤔, jump curbs, go though the woods, price$$$$$, can't stand up, can't put touring bag in front😁
@bwalker642
5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree on the no hand ride. You have to figure out how to do everything one handed. This bike is only suited for road riding. I get real nervous on gravel or dirt. I have wondered if the s40 is better off-road. I know it is much easier to put luggage on. Can’t say I have missed being able to stand. It is so comfortable.
@mindciller
5 жыл бұрын
Man that Raven sure is curious for all the hate lol. Maybe he got beaten by a bent on his df
@davidfalgout7304
5 жыл бұрын
You sir are not a recumbent rider. And that is ok. We are all brothers on two wheels!
@PrescottHome
5 жыл бұрын
Different bikes with different pluses and minuses. I miss just what you describe with the uprights. More, I find that on my 'bent I'm less maneuverable in city traffic. The comfort factor on the open road with a bent is undeniable.
@mindciller
5 жыл бұрын
I'm selling my bacchetta. A slight downhill very slight at 34 mph it caught air and kicked sideways and spit me off on the wrong side of the road. Now I cannot trust it :(
@davidfalgout7304
5 жыл бұрын
Most anyone can eventually ride a CB. Almost no one can ride them well. The problem is you have to balance power from both legs for the entire 360's on both legs at all times. When you don't, you have to counter the pressure of your powerful leg, with the less powerful upper body. In real life, this bike is like wrestling a very powerful reptile.... snake alligator your choose. After 2,000 mile and 1 year, I decided to try a non front wheel drive recumbent. It was a revelation and epiphany to how much fun a bent can be when you are not constantly fighting your legs. CB says you can make more power by incorporating your upper body. The TRUTH is you have to incorporate your upper body and that becomes very tiring... even after your in great shape. That is just the way it is. It is a flawed design... IMHO. UNLESS you are able to spin equally with both legs, your legs will always over power your arms and upper body. I have ridden with and behind many CB riders. Everyone of them fight the bike the entire time. I sold my CB at a loss, as fast as i could... and love my Bacchetta. The only way I would take a CB is if you gave it to me. Then I would sell it cheap! Yes I could rides hands off, supposedly the test to see if you are good enough. I guess the CB might be for some people, but the bike I found was dangerous. IF you are not paying attention, you can steer yourself real fast into a heap of trouble!!! Personally, i can not see how they are still in business. WHY? Because of the years, CB's are bought and sold more than any brand I have noticed on the for sale adds. So that begs the question...why does that happen. It is easy to see why however! Great advertising, but empty promises ! Good luck with the reptile bike!
@rojoracing53
5 жыл бұрын
That was my opinion for the first weeks and 500 miles I had mine and again through my first 24hour time trial at the world championships where I rode another 500 miles in just a day. If I had returned the bike to them after that trial period I would probably be writing a very similar comment to yours but I did return the bike and I worked at mastering it. The problem was I was so time crunched to get up to speed in my trial period before the race I had no time to refine the basics so I continually fought the bike. Now I'm so damn comfortable on it it's my bike of choice unless I want to ride in a group and need people to keep up with me to have fun. I've had DF riders draft off me for 10-20 miles at a time and after they realize I'm so much smoother then what they had imagined a bent to be they are comfortable only inches off my rear tire and we can hold a nice conversation while they draft me. I can't ride no handed but I have to admit I've never taken the time to practice, I know a few people who can do it so effortlessly that it's sickening.
@davidfalgout7304
5 жыл бұрын
@@rojoracing53 I understand your point of view. And..what is more important that we ride! That said, I have a question. Have you spent any time on a top shelf Bacchetta CA2.0 or Carbent? THAT IS set up correctly?
@rojoracing53
5 жыл бұрын
@@davidfalgout7304 Nope only in and around an aid station one time after I finished a double century and then drove out like 5 hours later to the last aid station wondering where my other friend was who just happened to be on a CA2.0. Of course, I was super wobbly on it as I would have expected nothing less from a quick spin. I was only chiming in because you seemed to have had such a poor experience that you blame the bike. I just wanted to share that I too swore the design was shit until I figured it out then it was great. As I told the Parkers before they sent me the bike, "I can ride anything on two wheels". I'm sure I could have just as much fun on a whole array or other types of bikes and bents as well. I only wish there were more bent riders willing to race down the mountains with me regardless of the type.
@davidfalgout7304
5 жыл бұрын
@@rojoracing53 Yes more riders of bents would be great! Its not a "shit" design. To be more accurate it is a novel deign. Not in the main-stay for sure. Yes there are a few that can ride them and think they are great. I like you can ride anything with 2 wheels. I also raced motorcycles of all kinds. I also flew high performance aerobatic home built aircraft. I was quite good at it as well. One could say that I, ...like you... relate to machines. I rode the Silvio for a year. At the same time I had a Bacchetta Corsa. I did not like the aluminum frame corsa because the ride was very harsh. It was fast, but uncomfortable. The silvio CB was about as fast. Me, with my engineering background decided to really look at all of the ins and outs of both types. SO I will say now ( again what I found). A Moving bottom Bracket FWD Cruisebike requires more wattage and calories to cover miles vs a NON MBBFWD ( CA2.0). THE CB by its very design will involve the upper body and legs. The harder you push the more upper body is needed. If you spin vs push/ mash the pedals not as much upper body is needed. I experienced this and I have followed very accomplished CB riders that this was very evident. I prefer all my puny, weak human energy directed to pedals.... and pedals only. If some one else does not want this ( you) God bess and good luck. SO...in conclusion... you did not ride the Bacchetta much. I would appreciate it that in the future before you make statements that you qualify them. If you would have said I have many miles on both platforms like me, you point of view IMHO would be worth more. At this point you have a preference, however narrow minded and misinformed it may or may not be. In addition I used to follow all the top Bent riding racers. They could buy and ride any bike. FEW VERY FEW chose CB. The reason is the learned what I did..... by the school of hard knocks. Money and time lost. They were much more successful on anything but a CB. PEACE OUT!
@castlerobber
5 жыл бұрын
David. You bought that bike used in late November 2014, and sold it in mid-May 2015. That's SIX MONTHS, not a year. You also claimed in your for-sale forum posts that the bike was like new, with LESS THAN 300 MILES on it, not 2,000. I saw you ride 30 miles on it, the weekend before you put it up for sale, and you rode like you had 300 miles experience. So it's hard to take your criticism seriously. Not to mention that Cruzbike geometry has been fine-tuned considerably in the FOUR YEARS since you had one. I have just over 6,000 miles on Cruzbikes. I do not "fight" or "wrestle" either of mine. Just because you couldn't ride one well, doesn't mean other people can't. Time to build a bridge, friend.
@recyclespinning9839
4 жыл бұрын
Aye I kinda like fooling yourself that your fitness level is better than think because your faster 😝
@bwalker642
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am able to keep up with guys that are in much better physical condition than I am. In retrospect, if you are competitive, it is a lot of fun to ride with the highly competitive guys and push yourself. It would have probably taken me another year to get to their level.
@recyclespinning9839
4 жыл бұрын
@@bwalker642 I have thought about s recumbent, but just can't make the leap for a commuter, I think the upright just seems better in city. But I really like the aerodynamics of that bike. I would think a shock in back would be even more comfortable.
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