Hello, my name is Annie, and this is the documentary that I appeared in, as a social worker, which is called “Protecting Our Children”, which aired in 2012. Thank you for all your kind comments, it is greatly appreciated. I appeared in this second episode “Expecting Trouble”, which saw me, as a social worker, working with a couple who were at risk of having their unborn baby removed from them, “before even taking it’s first ever breathe”. Unfortunately, even though I saw hope at the end of the tunnel, the baby had to be removed due to different factors. Sadly, after this documentary aired, I was recieving death threats. So, I made the decision to move from Bristol, where the documentary took place, to a lovely town in Suffolk. To this day, I still think about the couple, especially the mother, and think about what I could have done differently. But, as a children’s social worker, I have learnt one thing, and that is: To always trust your gut instinct, and never risk the lives of those who need your help most. Thank you all so much ❤️.
@lindalund9621
3 жыл бұрын
You did the Rigth thing .
@anniel3332
3 жыл бұрын
@@lindalund9621 Thank you, Linda.
@catehi9116
3 жыл бұрын
The three documentaries in this series remain so vivid in my mind from 2012. I watch them on here now and then too. I thought you were a wonderful social worker- calm, not judgemental or prejudice and you were very caring. I’m so sorry to hear that you received death threats. No one could have asked for a better person to do the job. You made sadly, the only choice possible given the circumstances. Take care.
@mygodrocksbiggo5086
3 жыл бұрын
Annie I was sexualy abused in care homes Nottingham they abused us in everyway I have bipolar mental health personality disorders I was pregnant at 14 by my social worker I ran away got in to drugs put on street corner I got clean had children I couldn't look after them we are in touch now and I'm a nanny to 3 gorgeous girl s I hated social worker until I met Colin in church group your all humans we get it wrong and right I love you Annie it made me cry see u so sad u invested your time and heart wish u could been my social worker Sean was dangerous and another baby p mara was crazy but addiction and a thug dad baby better adopted only thing I didn't like foster woman looking all judgement when Marva messed up and always on Marva shoulder she should backed of a bit and mean that she there help but was taking over I don't know if Marva had postnatal depression to give up beautiful baby for Sean who chills me to bone I think your fab Annie and will save so many children god bless ❤️
@rachelclish8465
3 жыл бұрын
Hello Annie. I want to say thank you for all your hard work. Watching this program and especially you, has made me want to become a social worker so for that thank you.
@ellegaitor2887
Жыл бұрын
Annie Is a CREDIT to social services. The sheer compassion, care and resilience she has is unmatched xx
@rantzzzrantzzz2568
7 ай бұрын
"Your daddy loves you so much" but couldn't be bothered to turn up to meet you for the first time. Class!
@Rat_Queen86
5 ай бұрын
Yep! Nailed it! He’s a waste of space
@Lisa-wb5qz
3 ай бұрын
@@Rat_Queen86so is marva
@AB-gb4xf
Ай бұрын
He does not know what that means to love someone..nobody loved him
@Rat_Queen86
26 күн бұрын
@@AB-gb4xfthey said he was offered help and refused it He could have learned but decided he couldn’t be bothered
@Gogetemscoobie
4 ай бұрын
How could anyone justify making death threats to Annie, she was kindness personified, she was really in touch with herself emotionally and with her clients. What a lovely lady
@beclwhite
8 ай бұрын
Take a shot every time Shaun says “yeah” in a sentence and you’ll be as drunk as him.
@stoicqueen8557
6 ай бұрын
You would literally be in a coma halfway through 😅
@zoe74ful
4 жыл бұрын
annie is the epitome of what c.p.s. should be like.caring.supportive and honest.hats off to her ,doing an incredibly difficult job.
@lyndamahony7669
3 жыл бұрын
100 percent agree.
@steveclinton4084
2 жыл бұрын
Hello angel how are you doing hope you’re having a great time with your family may God bless you and your family and I hope you all stay safe
@jackiemarini3203
Жыл бұрын
Bless your heart .🙏✌️💌
@eloisetye1341
3 жыл бұрын
That social worker, wow what a woman! Care and compassion! So wonderful to see especially given the circumstances!
@anniel3332
3 жыл бұрын
Good Morning Eloise. Gosh! I never expected to see such positive comments, it has really has made my day already! Thank you so much for your comment. As I said at the end of this documentary, if for any reason I didn’t care anymore, I would leave and never come back. Families in need deserve to be cared for by social workers, and not be judged by them . Thank you again, Annie.
@lyndamahony7669
3 жыл бұрын
@@anniel3332 Hi Annie, this is my 2nd time to watch this documentary. You are an inspiring and wonderful lady. Xxx
@mariec6056
2 жыл бұрын
Not many like that !! Xx
@mariec6056
2 жыл бұрын
@@anniel3332 wish mine had been u !!lucky he’s 19 and in the police now I was drinking and on heroin my mom was a social worker so that went down well he stayed with them for 5 years later found out my social worker was an addict and stuck off 😂😂bless u did ur best hun xxx❤️❤️🙏🙏
@MollyMae1988
Жыл бұрын
I hope that beautiful baby boy went to a good family who will love him, protect him and put his needs first, he definitely deserves it.
@werm3169
2 жыл бұрын
Shaun has a real knack for saying a lot while saying nothing, huh
@fredajordan5704
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can`t imagine he being a good father, no matter how hart I try...Not even a good dog-daddy, he shouldn`t have a pet as well. He looks somehow dangerous to me.
@mebutnotme.Khan78
Жыл бұрын
It's that "yeah" at the end of everything he says. I couldn't cope listening to him. Absolute moron.
@charmcatcher5806
8 ай бұрын
epitome of Loser dad
@randommess6667
8 ай бұрын
@kkkookie37 Hi why was Mauvas manner making you feel like you would want to put her into an institution ? I am just curious
@Andi-ix5bc
8 ай бұрын
They almost pulled it off tho.
@tinamcswain4758
Жыл бұрын
The social worker is so compassionate and respectful and professional. She is an asset to the department.❤ much respect Annie
@rinkydinkydragon1
2 жыл бұрын
Marvas “foster mum” is heaven. I bet she thinks about that baby so often, she was smitten ❤️
@banana9106
2 жыл бұрын
She looks like a really nice person and she was genuinely upset when it was said that Marva would lose the baby.
@WolfGirl988
10 ай бұрын
She seemed really caring and nice the foster carer
@im7175
Жыл бұрын
I've NEVER had any dealings with a social worker or sicial services, but Marva's caseworker was such a exceptional roll model to the name of social services. She did her BEST & all she was capable of doing, & beyond to help this damaged broken couple. Gave marva a chance against the odds to CARE for her baby Son...but she blew it, with her NOT being able to break her HABIT of a Lifetime.
@DarkEntries
4 жыл бұрын
"...and my puppy" Sir, that is a full-grown man
@susancipra3943
3 жыл бұрын
I like this social worker. She seems to care about the parents despite it probably paining her to see children born to them. She's in the right career for sure.
@river8760
Жыл бұрын
Exceptional social workers. Annie is absolutely top notch! So impressed with her.
@chandchand5355
2 жыл бұрын
That picture of them living in the woods. Wow heartbreaking. They are both broken x
@Gndlf_TheOrange
2 жыл бұрын
There are so many amazing people like Elaine in the world that go unnoticed. What an incredible and brave woman.
@Dj69bly
2 жыл бұрын
Anne is a great social worker. Her calming voice non contradictory and helpful almost like a good friend. We’re all human and allowed these emotions.
@elissamay67
3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing woman Annie is. Such a difficult heartbreaking job. We need more Annie's in the world!
@tinasloan4805
4 жыл бұрын
Annie stole my heart. What a great social worker she is. If they were all like her how great life would be for children who need protection. I was really rooting for Marva and the foster mother was such a lovely caring woman. I wish this would of worked out but they did all they could to help Marva and making sure the baby is protected and safe comes first. Never the less, it's still so heartbreakingly sad.
@anniel3332
3 жыл бұрын
Good Morning, Tina. Thank you ever so much for your kind words, they really do give me the motivation to carry on and to not give up! I agree with you, this is a case that has really stuck with me, even after almost 10 years. I often think about Marva, Shaun and their children. I no longer life in Bristol, where this was filmed, so I have no idea where they are or how they are getting on. I hope they are doing okay, and I am always thinking about them. Thank you again, Annie.
@lindalund9621
3 жыл бұрын
Annie do you still work with this. It must be hard mentally so see a lot of bad stuff
@anniel3332
3 жыл бұрын
@@lindalund9621 Good Evening, Linda. That’s a good question. Many cases involving neglect/abuse of children are always the worst ones, as they are completely vulnerable and innocent. Without the correct emotional support for them, they can often go into their adult life’s with trauma and emotional scars that haven’t healed. This can then lead them to abuse others. That, for me, really upsets me as the cycle of abuse will undoubtedly continue. Additionally, with the budget cuts here in the UK, we can often find ourselves having to rush cases to find an outcome, and hurrying into the next case without having the time to process what has happened. As I have mentioned in the end scene of this episode, this could lead to burnout due to stress, and this can and has happened to my fellow social workers. I always try to get sick leave if the case has had an outcome that has affected me, although I try not too as short staffing issues get in the way. But social work isn’t all doom and gloom, I have worked with families that have had many positive outcomes, going on to have a happier future, and that always makes me proud of the job I do, no matter how stressful and challenging it can be.
@kerrymay52
3 жыл бұрын
Annie L shaun died :( not sure how
@linnieraine
3 жыл бұрын
@@kerrymay52 how do you know? Is there info somewhere?
@Fishingadventureuk
11 ай бұрын
Hires security.." security "if it gets hairy we just won't go in" 😂
@monicadelreal8212
6 ай бұрын
😂
@vjc2270
Жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking on so many levels. I really feel for Marva and Shaun and for dedicated social workers like Annie who are trying to address intractable and wide-scale social problems like poverty and addiction with very limited resources and support either from governments or - in many cases - broader public opinion. ❤ to all involved
@rebeccamace1534
2 жыл бұрын
Marva is very sweet, and clearly being abused by Sean. I still think that no matter how sweet she is, she seems like she might have a learning/developmental disability, and I'm not sure she would be able to take care of a child. She seems like a child herself, who needs to be loved, nurtured and taken care of. I know she lose all of her children, but I think she lacks the skills and emotional maturity to take care of them.
@hannahwebster5606
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I found it bizarre they thought she would be capable of bringing up a child on her own
@paulette87
4 жыл бұрын
God help these children being born into situations like this
@elizabetha.a9229
4 жыл бұрын
Amen
@skylarblacc1660
4 жыл бұрын
As a victim of a situation as this the best comment seen so far
@taniawilliams14
4 жыл бұрын
Let’s remember he was abused as well so he is like that because of his environment and exposure from his situation. It’s very sad
@romashears5204
3 жыл бұрын
@@taniawilliams14 he said he would never hurt his children,so maybe the children would of turned out ok in his care,who knows? When marva run off with the baby, they said that the dad was relaxed and no harm to the baby. He just very chavy, i understand its not in the best interest that their babies stay with them but its a shame how they have to say a final goodbye at a contact centre and can never see their children again because of adoption, i think closed adoption needs to stop and more open adoptions, children should have more rights to know their birth family's.
@taniawilliams14
3 жыл бұрын
Roma Shears I agree it’s hard on all parties involved.
@sharonmillar5497
4 жыл бұрын
That poor little baby , I hope his adopted parents give him all the love in the world he deserves it .
@siobhangrogan6702
2 жыл бұрын
Seen this on tik tok had to watch but my god not going to watch another episode, I’m absolutely balling my eyes out. Annie & Elain and the rest of the team were absolutely amazing they rooted for marva all the way. I hope that little boy got an amazing family to care for him. Xx wow I’m still crying such a sad situation but the right thing to happen for the baby boy.
@dillsdollface
2 жыл бұрын
Tik tok brought me here too
@Midgey
2 жыл бұрын
Tiktok brought me here too 👋
@annecarr3932
2 жыл бұрын
Me also it’s so sad 😭
@lindsaymacdonald959
Жыл бұрын
Here from tiktok also 🙋♀️🤣
@davecozzie1
2 жыл бұрын
The quote ' trauma breeds trauma 'is so apt here ,, the brain is literally rewired when children suffer abuse and neglect these 2 people couldn't be a parent even if they wanted to they haven't got the grey matter and emotional intelligence it takes to be a good parent due to their own neglect and abuse suffered .
@lucyjaine5266
2 жыл бұрын
I suffered neglect and abuse as a child and got taken of my mum and went into my nans care and I’ve turned to be an amazing mum to my baby wouldn’t even think about harming him in any sometimes when a child goes threw neglect and abuse it makes them realise how bad it really is and u know not how it feels so u would never put ur own threw it
@Fruckyaupm8
Жыл бұрын
@@lucyjaine5266 exactly you get better or bitter it's a choice. I also broke the cycle and am an amazing mum to my kids!! Proud of you for doing the same. Angers me they use that excuse my mum dashed bricks at us as punishment wouldn't dream of making my child suffer like that
@lucyjaine5266
Жыл бұрын
@@Fruckyaupm8 yes I’m a 17 year old mum and was still in care when I got pregnant so u can imagine how much shit they gave me over it ! They’ve signed us off now but they put me three hell in my pregnant
@dominiquetate1215
Жыл бұрын
Spot on I was neglected and sexually abused as a child I’ve suffered with binge drinking and I love my children immensely but It took me years to work through my trauma and still ongoing so that it wouldn’t impact on my children. Not easy I wish both Marva and Sean that they heal and work through there trauma. Addiction is just a symptom of trauma. Welldone to anyone that hasn’t carried that on and broke the cycle
@brookeshannon6300
4 жыл бұрын
As a social worker who does in-home visits, that dog made me VERY nervous. (I've been bitten by someone's dog that thought it was okay to intimidate people with their dog).
@zoedark7101
4 жыл бұрын
That dad didn't stand a chance with that man as an owner. I guarantee it ended up in tge dogs home or it was put to sleep. This was filmed around 9 or 10 years ago.
@charmainemorgan7757
4 жыл бұрын
I would have literally wet myself that dog was dangerous
@Llasmr22
4 жыл бұрын
Iam Ade my worst nightmare too. I thought most people will put the dog away in another room. But obviously people will use them as a weapon
@Llasmr22
4 жыл бұрын
Was you ok after
@leahtutzyuk2015
3 жыл бұрын
I was attacked and bitten by 2 dogs (at the same time) 20years later im still terrified of big dogs and have had panic attacks when I've seen big dogs off leads. People dont realise the impact Dog attacks can have on a person. I know how you feel. I'm sorry that happened to you! X x x.
@ninasisa6663
2 жыл бұрын
Marva is so beautiful, this is heartbreaking, Shawn has/had so many demons himself. The saddest thing to watch and such happens every day in this world. Bless social workers.
@lionessnala2000
7 ай бұрын
My heart breaks for Sean...someone failed him as a child. His example of an abused dog really broke my heart...hope he gets and accepts help...
@sarahgerhardt1201
4 жыл бұрын
This is the greatest most caring worker I've ever seen with any cps worker. I wish we had some like her here in ohio
@clairevincent2561
4 жыл бұрын
Believe me she is a rariety in the U.K., our social services is disgusting.
@romashears5204
4 жыл бұрын
@@clairevincent2561 she could of just pretended to be nice for cameras
@ciaraconover2290
4 жыл бұрын
@@clairevincent2561 yeah, I saw that episode of the report going in undercover and was just disgusted. And it's not the workers fault. There's gotta be a better way
@fludderkiddie
4 жыл бұрын
Amen (what I really wanna say is “no sh*t)...every time I see these documentaries about social workers in the UK be it DSS or CPS...it’s crazy to see the differences in the 2 countries...neither are perfect but Holy Smokes- one of their Social Workers wouldn’t stand to last the first hour of working anywhere in the US before Noping Out.
@fludderkiddie
4 жыл бұрын
Ciara C so did I...still better than the US by a landslide.
@hannahspanna13
4 жыл бұрын
The guy with the dog clearly doesn't understand that its not all about abuse! He says he cant work because his heads fucked up then hows he gonna pay for nappies, clothes, baby milk, heating, electricity, baby washing things ect. This is what drives me crazy! Love isn't the only thing that's gonna keep your baby alive its quality of life!...
@nikkigraham7494
3 жыл бұрын
I didnt have the best life as a child but I bloody made sure my own kids didn't have to live like that!
@BecD1983
3 жыл бұрын
He needs to stop having unprotected sex
@Dj69bly
2 жыл бұрын
True love is … because you’d do your utmost for someone you love and that means putting your trauma aside and being a better person. I had a hard upbringing but my love for my kids I did my best. My mother didn’t show live so I strived Not to be like her the absolute opposite.
@hannahcusack6141
4 жыл бұрын
The guy showing off with his dog is so annoying. I hate that "tough guy" look of having the dog walk between your legs. He clearly wanted to show off to the cameras 🙄
@anaishealy5073
4 жыл бұрын
I find, you can only really get the 'tough guy look' when your dog is well disciplined. Because it reflects the discipline you must have winin yourself. Dogs don't learn how to behave over night. It's not easy being disciplined, it takes strength, will power, dedication and a whole lot more. Having a dog like he has... Pfff show a lack of almost everything and that's scary and super dangerous! Just passing on failure 😔
@hannahcusack6141
4 жыл бұрын
@@anaishealy5073 👏👏👏 totally agree. That dog would turn on him in a second. No training at all. He was definitely trying to show off though 😭 stupid man thinking of his ego instead of focusing on how bad it looks to have a dog acting like that in front of social services!
@taniawilliams14
4 жыл бұрын
He is an Addict and traumatised person, save your judgement
@romashears5204
3 жыл бұрын
What did he do to the dog that was so bad?
@hannahcusack6141
3 жыл бұрын
@@romashears5204 I don't think he necessarily did anything "bad" to the dog but I think the way he handles his dog is to add to his "tough guy" appearance. Letting a dog bark like crazy and walking with it between your legs to intimidate others . But that's just my opinion.
@BOUNCERBABE
3 жыл бұрын
Annie is what I would class as an amazing social worker. She is 100% genuine and has a heart of gold. Plenty of social workers (including an immediate member of my own family) could learn from Annie
@janepurcell6747
2 жыл бұрын
And yet Anna says she had death threats after this episode.
@BOUNCERBABE
2 жыл бұрын
@@janepurcell6747 wow. From Sean?
@janepurcell6747
2 жыл бұрын
@@BOUNCERBABE Not sure if they're from Sean or just from the multitudes who just hate social workers and see them as interfering 'do-gooders'. I thought she was amazing - so patient and kind, and put up with so much self-righteous crap from Sean.
@river8760
Жыл бұрын
@@janepurcell6747 She’s an exceptional social worker, death threats from someone like Sean, hardly means she’s not a good social worker. Child protection work is very difficult and you’re navigating extremely challenging cases.
@samoram4993
3 жыл бұрын
Annie is such an asset and I hope her job looks after her so she can keep doing the amazing work she is doing
@anniel3332
3 жыл бұрын
Good Evening, Sam. Thank you so much for your kind words, it really is overwhelming, a d I’m so grateful. I now life and work in Suffolk. Thanks again, Annie.
@lasantisima6446
2 жыл бұрын
@@anniel3332 Thank you Annie, for being such a caring and gentle person. I hope you’re doing well. 🌻
@elizabethl7634
Жыл бұрын
What an incredible social worker! While the outcome wasn't the one that was hoped for, I do feel like the team tried their absolute best to help and did all that they could. I hope Martha is doing okay today.
@Harlan1973
4 жыл бұрын
That first man is extremely violent and deluded. The dog is terrifying and they don't even have basic furniture. If the baby stayed with them it would be dead within weeks
@bubbles7398
4 жыл бұрын
They don’t have baby furniture because she is only 20 weeks pregnant. I had almost nothing at that far along just a few clothes of each gender and a few fender neutral things.
@Harlan1973
4 жыл бұрын
@@bubbles7398 i think you have missed the point. Ok for the sake of argument, they had a shitload of furniture. That baby still would have been dead the first time dad got frustrated bc it wouldn't stop crying or needed a nappy change.
@bubbles7398
4 жыл бұрын
Em1973 I do agree the dad would snap over something small. I’ve been in relationships like that and got out for my sons sake. I was just pointing out how she wasn’t that far along and that could by why she has no baby furniture
@bubbles7398
4 жыл бұрын
I also think he needs a LOT of help tho also. Possible PTSD and obvious Depression and help with the alcohol. I think if he could get the help he needs he could actually do good.
@Harlan1973
4 жыл бұрын
@@bubbles7398 i don't disagree that he would benefit from help and wld eventually be better but would you want a newborn baby to suffer through his mistakes in the meantime ? I'm actually all for family preservation but if the situation is as extreme as this it is not in the best interests of the child.
@traciebradley2971
4 жыл бұрын
How lovely is annie and all the people who tried to help marva. It's really sad how this turned out. Heartbreaking 💔
@nataliebeardsley366
4 жыл бұрын
Serves them both right they shouldn't be allowed kids FFS they shouldn't be allowed to have kids better of in care with a vile mother and dad like that 🙄
@keelieinwonderland
4 жыл бұрын
It’s sad he passed away though
@traciebradley2971
4 жыл бұрын
@@keelieinwonderland that's really sad did he take his own life in the end?
@keelieinwonderland
4 жыл бұрын
Tracie Bradley from what was said in the story about the dad yes
@romashears5204
4 жыл бұрын
@@keelieinwonderland how do u no the dad passed away?
@mandlin4602
2 жыл бұрын
This is a prime example of good social work, well done to all involved, especially Annie.
@tiffanyburchett8088
Жыл бұрын
I was hoping she put her kid first before Shaun an keep him he's a beautiful baby
@charmcatcher5806
8 ай бұрын
She was actively killing her baby in front of everyone. Giving her baby severe needs and she’s just going to walk away and keep doing what she wants. Never drink while pregnant , don’t listen to anyone that says it’s ok . Not a glass of wine , a beer , nothing . It’s worse than smoking crack or heroine. It literally pickles the babies brain and other organs as it cannot metabolize properly. Iv worked with many children with FAS and it is truly heartbreaking . Those children seldom live a normal life .
@nicolagladstone8746
3 жыл бұрын
Annie you are a credit to SW! You role model good practice and your empathy and clear communications are outstanding. I am a SW and I use this 3 part doco in supporting SW students in Australia! Thank you
@lionessnala2000
7 ай бұрын
I dont understand why Annie received the death threats she did everything she could have done. Marva threw all of Annie's efforts away...the baby could seriously have been hurt whilst Marva and Sean were drunk...
@Tina-if7bt
3 жыл бұрын
Really this social worker is very respectful and carrying. God bless and god please protect this and all innocent children’s who suffer from this 🙏
@diannekhan5199
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not judging him . But I think he maybe hes controlling and I'm scared for that girl. Been in that predicament. Bless this young girl and keep a close watch on her
@Lauramartialartist
2 жыл бұрын
Aww annie broke my heart ,she loved to see marva and baby thrive and do well its must be so hard to see when these tragedies happen . You did a good job !!! Sending you a hug xx
@Kellz82-p7p
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah same , Both her and Elaine are amazing 💜🌻💗
@ellegaitor2887
Жыл бұрын
Honestly my heart hurts for all involved. I just wish the mother and father had the strength to overcome their own demons and be surrounded by the love of their children because it honestly is the most amazing thing. I wish the children well in life and wish they have a happy loved life and wish the social workers all the strength and love they really are angels x
@GlendaHall-l5h
16 күн бұрын
Why can't there be more social worker s like this lady.. she's got so much compassion and other social worker s need to be like this and unfortunately they are not..
@kezabel7201
4 жыл бұрын
An example of a really good social worker
@anniel3332
3 жыл бұрын
Good Morning, Kezabel. I am overwhelmed with the positive comments. It has certainly made my day. Thanks again, Annie.
@kezabel7201
3 жыл бұрын
@@anniel3332 I’m a student SW Annie and have learnt a lot from watching you. Fantastic example for the profession
@anniel3332
3 жыл бұрын
@@kezabel7201 Thank you so much. Good luck with your studies, are you hoping to go into children’s services?
@kezabel7201
3 жыл бұрын
@@anniel3332 Thankyou. I’d like to go into Youth Offending. I’m currently working with Care Leavers
@anniel3332
3 жыл бұрын
@@kezabel7201 That’s brilliant! Can be hard work, but it’s all worth it!
@CJ-rd9oj
8 ай бұрын
Omg she went there to tell him his baby was born and all he spoke about was himself like a true narcissist 😡then he walks into that building like he is some sort of celebrity 😂 The baby looks so much like his mom💯 im heartbroken for morva🥹such a beautiful baby
@abigailstubbs
2 жыл бұрын
That social worker was brilliant, so calm and did her job right. She cared for everyone involved. I hope that tony baby has a loving supported life
@lindsayberry5901
3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful social worker. A special woman
@anniel3332
3 жыл бұрын
Good Morning, Lindsay. Thank you ever so much for your positive words, kindly appreciated. Annie.
@user-er7dr8oy6e
5 ай бұрын
What a beautiful Forster parent she was so sweet and so un judgmental…. How beautiful is she!
@Toffee146
4 ай бұрын
....foster...
@cafeaulait69
4 жыл бұрын
I was raised by an addict and it fucked me up for decades and recovery has been long and painful. Please remove children from these situations.
@anovemberstar
4 жыл бұрын
as heartbreaking as the outcome is, it was the right thing to do. I feel for both marva and shaun; i think deep down they WANT to be good parents; they just lack the ability to, due to their own upbringings. Its a shame there isnt the intensive therapy options they both need in order for them to grow, heal and be in a better position to stop the cycle being repeated
@jenxx8697
4 жыл бұрын
Queen Bee I agree it’s sad
@bryan7938
4 жыл бұрын
But the documentary states ‘they won’t engage’. That have had programmes offered to them but if they won’t/can’t engage or participate then there’s nothing anyone can do. That applies to anyone rich or poor.
@bryan7938
3 жыл бұрын
M B yes, you are right.
@hollies5841
3 жыл бұрын
@M B exactly. A troubled background makes it a lot harder, but it does not make impossible. 8 lives created by Shaun, 8 babies with their own troubled backgrounds before they are even born...and the cycle continues. Heartbreaking.
@Neverletgononono
3 жыл бұрын
@@hollies5841 p
@reeniem6398
9 ай бұрын
Annie is such a wonderful social worker. I wish we could see more of the Annie’s rather than all the bad we see/hear. She did everything she possibly could for Marva and shown so much faith that she could be the parent her little boy needed. I really rooted for Marva and a one point felt really proud of this stranger - I genuinely thought this was going to be a success story. Sadly it wasn’t meant to be. She had all the tools available to her. Brilliant support from a kind, compassionate social worker and foster carer. I really thought she would do it. I can’t help but feel for Marva and wonder how she’s doing now, and how her little boy is doing. Just really sad. Annie is a credit to social services. Truly.
@Angelgirl162
3 жыл бұрын
You did an amazing job Annie I’m crying here with emotion cause it’s a very moving story and you handled it perfectly
@Trekkifulshay
4 жыл бұрын
Marva seems like an endangered adult. I wonder if she herself should be in adult care.
@Llasmr22
4 жыл бұрын
Watching this and thinking the same. Wonder if she has a learning disability
@loraleepooley4160
3 жыл бұрын
Olivia Grocott Wonder the same.
@mzcee8218
3 жыл бұрын
Adult care in the UK is voluntary. If an adult refuses an assessment, & is deemed not to be a cause of harm to themselves or members of the public the service is withdrawn.
@Lost-in-Wonderland
3 жыл бұрын
@@mzcee8218 but she is a harm to herself and OD twice with her unborn child! That constitutes, harm to oneself. She should be assessed for long term care, possibly even sectioning. Im surprised she wasn't placed in a unit after the 1st attempt. Im saying this with genuine care, as someone who has complex mental health issues myself inc bipolar and bpd. I have 2 children myself and I can assure you having 'issues' and a history of abuse/trauma isn't reason enough to not be a good parent xxx
@anniel3332
3 жыл бұрын
That is a good observation. As her key worker, I did try to get both her and her partner, Shaun, into adult care services, but they didn’t comply and didn’t feel that they needed the support. They wanted us all gone, basically. But, I couldn’t just leave them, as I would have been neglecting my duty of care. I do feel that if they both had appropriate adult care support services, they would have had a better chance in having a loving relationship with their child. It really was and still is a case that will stick with mefor ever, as there were some gaps what we could have filled with appropriate services. Annie.
@mutoidliz2320
4 жыл бұрын
“I would never harm my kids” *binge drinks,the house is a state,no furniture,owns a dangerous dog*
@Jj1984.
4 жыл бұрын
Oh I KNOWWW! Do you think they honestly don’t see how they portray themselves? Bringing out that mongrel of a dog just to show it off and it nearly breaks the door down! What morons! I was horrified watching this!
@mutoidliz2320
4 жыл бұрын
jessiejane dent I can imagine going out the room for two minutes and the dog getting to the baby 😭,the binge drinking itself is an actual offence in charge of a child too!
@ellioshiem7892
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. he makes no effort.
@veganfortheanimalsdee6637
4 жыл бұрын
Leave the poor dog out of it.
@rachelfreeders356
4 жыл бұрын
The dog is prolly just worked up cuz there are strangers there but he was just alerting not aggressive you can tell because he wasn't snarling and his tail was wagging.
@francesca1687
3 жыл бұрын
You can sense so many occasions where Annie just wants to leave, and Shaun just won’t s h u t u p
@greenbluegrass
3 жыл бұрын
The 'twinkle little star' sung by the father and the baby's reactions were very touching.
@Rat_Queen86
2 жыл бұрын
As an abused child who fell through the cracks, I have limited sympathy (if any) for people who have children that they cannot take care of and abuse as a result. I know stuff happens, but children and babies are innocent parties in all of this. I get children are hard work, but drinking while pregnant is disgusting. Plus, there are resources available to help people. There is no excuse. Also, I get the whole cycle of abuse doesn’t repeat, but these people need help. If they aren’t adult enough to take the help, then they shouldn’t be allowed near their kids.
@jennawalden8547
7 ай бұрын
Tbh imo, the baby had the look of alcohol fetal syndrome. The amount Marva was drinking whilst pregnant was phenomenal
@Rat_Queen86
5 ай бұрын
@@jennawalden8547Exactly. And by the end of the show, she had abandoned yet another baby to go back to that thing that was destroying her life. I could never be a social worker The job is so frustrating. I think that baby was the 4th child that had been taken off of them. I get so mad when people try to defend the seemingly hundreds of bad decisions that they have made, citing a ‘rough upbringing’ as an excuse.
@Lisa-wb5qz
2 ай бұрын
@@Rat_Queen86totally agree 👍
@sezthet1
4 жыл бұрын
Extremely sad, but hats off to Marva who chose to move away from someone who was clearly dragging her down and would probably have made her lose her 4th child. That is an extreme display of strength from someone so vulnerable. I have sympathy for the father of her child, despite the fact he is clearly unsuitable material for fatherhood, he is a human, and he will feel for what he has lost, there must be a lot of suffering he has to plough through. Although Marva didn’t seem to respect the child inside her through pregnancy, she had incredible courage before birth to move on, it’s something very rarely seen in social work and child care cases, so as I said, I wish her the best, considering she is also battling addiction.
@africanajaii
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm just soft but I'm all of this I saw two broken children trying to live adult lives with the shittest manual they was given by their own parent's . Now that is not to say the child should have stayed with them but I will say nobody tried to help these broken people who was once the abused children themselves. Shaun kept crying out for help if you look past his ignorance He was literally suffocating inside and it was visible . I think a better approach should be tried because putting them down doesn't help mental illness is exactly that a illness and those people need help it is not a choice nobody would choose to cut/abuse and drink themselves to an oblivion I was once in this situation and I got help for my mental health and my child is no six and I couldn't imagine being away from her or even imagine being the way I used to be around her everyone deserves a chance !
@tanzpenhalluriack3299
4 жыл бұрын
You my dear a very kind person we need more people who see people for what they really are in this world , your right they need to have a chance
@TT-fr7gz
4 жыл бұрын
You have great insight and compassion for such situations. Have you thought about becoming a social worker? I too was in a horrible situation, being a teenage mum, living with a criminal partner, not a Care in the world. I turned my life around, went to college, got into uni and became a nurse, went back to uni and became a midwife, and my children are thriving. We can turn our lives around with the correct support 💜💜
@nadzl118wilson9
4 жыл бұрын
Africana Jaii so well put and it’s so true I really feel sorry for them both
@misskittylewis494
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with what you’re saying about them being set up to fail in life by their own parents. But It states in the video how the social worker tried to get adult services and mental health services involved to help them when the lady in the video became pregnant with her first child years before and they didn’t want to engage so that’s on them, they didn’t want help. She was even given the opportunity to be rehomed etc and she still chose to go and drink knowing full well it was the last chance she would get to keep that baby. I’ve struggled with both mental health and addiction but if it got to a point where my baby was to be taken sure as hell I’d do everything In my power to stop that happening and I’d accept whatever help was offered where as they couldn’t give a crap because they’ve had kids removed before and know that they’ll be okay whether they change or not. They did try to help these parents, they just either didn’t want to help themselves or couldn’t help themselves
@bigb853
3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. These guys are products of abuse and neglect. The goal of social services should and is to keep the child with the biological parents and teach them how to provide a safe environment. However, Martha was given a chance despite drinking; attempting suicide; having a unfurnished house and being in a dangerous relationship, during her pregnancy. Even after being given a chance, she broke the conditions and put her baby at risk. The innocent child is the most important person and needs to be protected.
@tammyashley4997
3 жыл бұрын
He sure liked his daddy's singing.
@danielle8608
Жыл бұрын
I could have cried when Shawn was talking about how he is like an abused dog. He was very aware of his issues actually just not very stable.
@Rat_Queen86
9 ай бұрын
But the help was there for him to get help. He is choosing not to take it. He is an adult and actions have consequences. I said this to someone else on here, don’t make out that he is innocent in this. He can’t see that he has done anything wrong, even though all of his children have been taken away from him and that he is an abusive, controlling bully that had Marva so under his thumb that she was scared to say anything without him there.
@randommess6667
8 ай бұрын
@@Rat_Queen86 Maybe he has had helpin the past and it didnt work or maybe his mental problems stop him from believing it would be worth the pain to go through some type f therapy,,, Therapy doesnt help everyone ya know
@linda9115
Жыл бұрын
Just dam heartbreaking, goes to show if you give compassion you get a reaction. Poor kids and l talking about the broken parents. And a big shout out to Elaine.
@dawnroache9391
2 жыл бұрын
Sean is more worried about Marva than ANYTHING he didn't want the child
@emilywright3454
2 жыл бұрын
Just wants to trap her
@nikkinoo8721
3 жыл бұрын
I have major respect for social workers! I couldn't do it.
@simonesimone1101
2 жыл бұрын
Poor baby hope he gets the care and love he deserves. Most of these parents seem to have learning difficulties, well it looks like that to me.
@VBHob
3 жыл бұрын
They were really good and calm when they were apart. I could not do that job. Well done for protecting babies in danger.
@rachelhutchinson6469
2 жыл бұрын
I must of watched this 10+ times and it breaks my heart every time for All that were involved. Mental health and addiction are rough on everyone x
@dianehess5520
Жыл бұрын
Annie has a fine line to make sure the mother gets a chance but the baby stays safe. I would certainly put the baby first.
@destiny9734
4 жыл бұрын
Really insightful, nice one BBC. Thanks for the upload! 🙏🏾❤️
@shereekern6801
3 жыл бұрын
Children are so precious it's so difficult seeing them abused and neglected and before even being born 😞😞😞. The parents are both terribly mentally ill and needs therapy and likely medication.
@jamesdoncaster1641
3 жыл бұрын
Annie you were so amazing after the breakdown of the mother and baby placement. You even wanted to comfort Elaine, who was also amazing. Made me a proud social worker. Thank you so much. Made me think about an unborn case with a really positive outcome. Thank you once more. James
@anniel3332
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words James, I hopefthis documentary has helped you. Annie
@thequeenofhope4006
Жыл бұрын
Not enough is said about Shawn. We all feel for Marva but Shawn is just as lost. He didn't have a good upbringing himself and I pray someone reaches out to help him as well. It broke my heart when he was yelling in the street, pretending to be happy when you could clearly see his heart was broken because he didn't share in the experience of his son being born. 🙏🏽I pray for his healing
@clairevincent2561
Жыл бұрын
Sean has now passed away
@Little_Sidhe
Жыл бұрын
@@clairevincent2561 How did he pass away?
@mystifiedmargot1970
11 ай бұрын
@@Little_SidheApparently his last partner had a stillbirth and he took an overdose. That baby if it would have lived would have been taken off them.
@randommess6667
8 ай бұрын
He was a great person
@nrg.primal4310
8 ай бұрын
@@mystifiedmargot1970 Sadly it looked like it was going to happen 😢.Shawn was a victim of society, cps did nothing for him when he was a child which resulted in many children ending up in foster care and his death. I just hope that at least Marva is okay.
@pebbles4715
3 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping Marva would stay on track and be a great mum. She had a good support network, she was making excellent progress. The social worker was brilliant, helping, supporting and I think she truly believed Marva could do it. There’s no way a baby could or should be left with the parents. Sadly from what Shaun described his childhood as being he’s evidently very damaged and I doubt Marva had a good upbringing either. Just very tragic.
@xkyleprivatex815
3 жыл бұрын
👏🏻
@loulou4148
2 жыл бұрын
doesn't mean they won't be good parents!
@steveclinton4084
2 жыл бұрын
Hello dear how are you doing hope you’re having a great time with your family may God bless you all and I hope you all stay safe
@Rat_Queen86
8 ай бұрын
@@loulou4148the world doesn’t work that way. They need help and are refusing it, while drinking alcohol and taking drugs. As a child who was raised in that environment, NO, they won’t be good parents.
@melissadeasy5774
2 жыл бұрын
I think Marva herself had additional needs. Unfortunately drink abuse was always going to go before her baby. Such a shame but it was the best decision for the baby well done Annie.
@olivialovesdesign
3 жыл бұрын
This social worker actually cared. Like really cared. But it’s heartbreaking I can’t finish watching it.
@olivialovesdesign
3 жыл бұрын
Can someone just tell me what happens?
@xkyleprivatex815
3 жыл бұрын
@@olivialovesdesign the baby gets taken away, and the social worker takes sick leave.
@amybrown237
2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant outcome for the baby, they were not fit parents that gorgeous little boy never stood a chance with them, he deserves a good safe life.
@ruthconnolly5859
2 жыл бұрын
God this whole thing is so touching. Obviously Annie did a great job and I cannot imagine the emotional fallout from this. But god poor Elaine to personally deliver the child, and spend 5 weeks with him. Also poor baby boy when he inevitably stumbles across this
@lentilgirl158
Жыл бұрын
no fallout whatsoever. social workers thrive on their power.
@carriebizz
4 жыл бұрын
He's had 7 kids taken from his care yet he thinks he's a good dad 🤔🤭 Unfortunately I don't think either of them should ever have children in their care. The baby is better off away from the birth parents. You can see how upsetting it is for Elaine the foster carer as she's been there since the birth. Its very sad. If parents have a terrible traumatic upbringing then they probably won't be good parents.
@ellioshiem7892
4 жыл бұрын
he shoots of his mouth..but that s about it.....
@ellioshiem7892
4 жыл бұрын
@Starr Child poor children....
@dejarose9500
4 жыл бұрын
Some people just really aren't meant to be parents, it shouldn't take 3 kids getting taken away for you to finally want to get yourself together. Even with the 4th they're crappy parents, I feel bad for all of these kids.
@ealeem8986
3 жыл бұрын
@Deja Rose, there are people that have to learn the hard way to get their @$$ together.
@mael2039
3 жыл бұрын
let's not forget it's her fourth but his 7th or i think his 8th
@WolfGirl988
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that she is laughing and she doesn’t seem upset about losing the baby at all
@sabriye4502
3 жыл бұрын
The poor babies.. im in utter shock. You need a license to drive but absolutely nothing to ruin a childs life before it starts..
@tammyashley4997
3 жыл бұрын
Sean needs a lot of help. Anger management and addiction treatment. I think he does loves his kids. He's just so broken.
@anniel3332
3 жыл бұрын
You are definitely correct. Although we did try to offer both Shaun and Marva with some adult services, they both were hesitant and refused. It’s so sad, but there’s only so much we can do. They are not children, but adults, so we can’t exactly force them to recieve support, but we certainly try to convince them too. Annie.
@tammyashley4997
3 жыл бұрын
@@anniel3332 It's sad when people refuse help that they need.
@jodiefindlay382
Жыл бұрын
I agree totally they are both not mature enough and have learning disabilities and imagine there childhoods were awful 😢
@randommess6667
8 ай бұрын
@@tammyashley4997 I feel like shaun refused help possibly because he has had help before and it didnt help,, talking therapies an whatever dont help everyone some people can not be helped ,, why put himself through the strain of it if he thinks it wont help as really what help really will help him what will take away the pain what , talking about it wont make it go away working through it cant make it stop hurting him and he cant change his personality
@sylvia1823
3 жыл бұрын
Annie is such a lovely compassionate professional, those families are incredibly lucky to have her as a social worker , Annie obviously cares so deeply for the families she works with ♥️
@mariec6056
2 жыл бұрын
They always are they only bothered about the child not the mother
@Mia-ex2qc
2 жыл бұрын
@@mariec6056 clearly you didn’t watch the whole thing…it’s clear that Annie tried her best to support both mum and dad there is only so much they can do
@k_j_n1242
Жыл бұрын
@@mariec6056 Yes they do Carr about the parents, but im sorry, the child's needs come first
@ninasisa6663
2 жыл бұрын
when he sang for his son....too emotional man ...aww
@ialwayshaveahangover
3 жыл бұрын
As someone with fertility issues it breaks me that guys like Shaun keep breeding and keep getting his child took away from it. It happens for a reason they don't take them for nothing so he definitely did "something wrong" then you get hard working people in a stable relationship like me and my husband with a nice home and regular jobs that struggle daily with so much love to give
@tormon506
3 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about fostering?
@ialwayshaveahangover
3 жыл бұрын
@@tormon506 going through IVF first and if all else fails adoption
@janewick1082
3 жыл бұрын
Be foster parents
@janewick1082
3 жыл бұрын
Adopt me. Disclaimer I am grown.
@nataliebeardsley8824
3 жыл бұрын
Same megan reed
@janellemargot4376
3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to watch some of these "parents". Repulsive on one hand but on the other your heart goes out to them for what they went through as kids themselves :( They didn't become like this overnight
@emberdt7998
2 жыл бұрын
I have no sympathy for that crazy immature arse. I was abused all through my life. Never decided hey let's abuse others and lash out and act childish
@clarinet8989
3 жыл бұрын
Marva clearly has learning difficulties and is clearly very vulnerable. 90 percent certain she probably experienced abuse and neglect in her own childhood also. Marva has failed her children, because the system is designed to fail people like her. People that need it.
@jean_the_bean
2 жыл бұрын
it is a viscous cycle
@Lisa-wb5qz
2 ай бұрын
Omg really she was able to get pregnant have the babies then loss them shes a disgrace
@angeladuffield2860
Жыл бұрын
Annie is a marvelous lady, they can't even care for themselves,you can choose to not drink,get help,make a home, even if you don't have money you can find things,so many people put nice things out you can make a nice home ,some people don't know how to get out of their own way,I hope this precious baby found a good home.
@sloane4836
Жыл бұрын
As much as removing the child was the right thing to do, I feel so sad. For Sean and Marva. Sean clearly grew up with abuse and got no help to deal with what happened to him. Whilst he has a terrible attitude I feel like he has been chewed up and spit out by the system and this is the result Annie and the whole team were amazing. It is sad it didn’t work out.
@BOUNCERBABE
3 жыл бұрын
Annie is the loveliest social worker I have seen. I went into the system, back in 1994, when I had just turned 12. I wasn’t keen on any of the social workers, bar 1, that I had had between 1994 to 1998. I would have been really happy if I had a social worker like Annie. She is so calm and compassionate. She did everything in her power to ensure Marva kept her newborn son, despite her unstable behaviour and being in a volatile relationship with someone who can’t look after himself, let alone Marva and a newborn. Many times he had mentioned only wanting to take care of Marva and his dog. Not mentioning his son, unless prompted. Annie went above and beyond for that family, to only have it thrown back in her face. That baby is at incredible risk, staying with his mum, when she is mentally unstable and can’t take care of herself. If anything had happened to that baby, whilst his mother was binge drinking and made multiple times to take her life, or god forbid anything happened to the baby, in his mum’s care, it will be in the social worker’s hands.
@Cor-Blimey-Gov
3 жыл бұрын
Why do these people keep on having children only to be put into the care system..so sad.
@janellemargot4376
3 жыл бұрын
They arent at a state where they can make sound decisions. Unfortunately cause and effect is hard concept for many people who've been through abuse and mental health issues. Sad. Frustrating.
@snorkle5041
8 ай бұрын
What an amazingly warm and respectful trustworthy social worker...a rare occurrence!
@aishachristina4188
3 жыл бұрын
Powerful documentary and shatters alot of negative beliefs we have about social services. Lots of compassion for and empathy with Shaun and Martha and the baby
@traceyb.r.e5525
5 ай бұрын
But this is TV. Their always nicer. I've seen terrible situations how how mothers are treated. Even one lady where Tulsa returned baby to an abuser dad . So ya good tv , these sw are aware millions watch
@alanalycan3986
2 жыл бұрын
Marva made a brave courageous decision to leave that wolly 🙏 Sad to see what happened towards the end 😔💔
@mfbabyyyyyy
4 жыл бұрын
Police took the dog thank you god rest piece to the dog .what a lovely dog .he doesnt even care. Disgusting human
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