I’ve always read that measuring pickup height requires pressing the string (low E and then high E) hat the last fret and then measuring from the top of the pickup pole to the bottom of the string.
@MrSongwriter2
Жыл бұрын
For anyone reading in 2023. Yes you’re correct because reading the height above the pickguard means nothing as some might like 2mm high E action and some 1.25mm so the height from the pole-piece to the underside of the string is going to differ in both those scenarios. You hold down the strings at the last fret and measure from the pole piece to the underside of the string. It’s a shame the poster went to great lengths to show the settings but didn’t measure in the right place
@miguelpessanha
5 жыл бұрын
Nice one Ryan, very interesting. Here's my take on Strat setups: I start setting up my strats to Fender specs (4/64 1.6 mm action, 0.008' 0.2m relief), and go from there. I always straight the neck as much as I can without fretting out which I find it provides more sustain, and then raise the action. At the moment I'm at 5/64 2mm (funny enough just like the Silver Sky) which I find it gave a lot more sustain, better grab for bends, and especially a much better feel, helps the vibrato while when holding the notes. You would imagine low action makes the guitar easier to bend and hold, and it does to a certain extent, but when it's too low it makes it hard to bend the higher strings as it doesn't give enough separation and for strong vibrato a la SRV the string will touch the fretboard if it's too close. Regarding pickup height I'm always messing around and it depends a lot on how hot the pickup is, but I'm setting down at 8/64 to 6/64 on the neck and middle (sometimes I go higher in the middle), which is basically the highest Fender suggestion for vintage pickups. They might sound weak initially but they really shine when you crank your amp, it provides a well balanced, smooth and "woody" and glassy vintage sounds for the lack of better words. Any closer than that I start hearing this shrill and spike in high mids on the higher strings and muddiness on the low strings which I despite. My method is adjusting according your pickup preference, which means starting with a good neck sounds, moving to the 4th position and adjust the Middle pickup until you get the ideal neck/middle cancelation and then move to the 2th position and adjust the bridge the same way. Just a suggestion: For measuring guitar pickups get a straight ruler that measures in 1/64's and measure from the top of the pole as they can be staggered or not; To measure the relief get a feeler gauge, there's really nothing like them, even a cheap as for a dollar from amazon will do. All my guitars sound 10 times better once I started setting up them myself to my favourite specs. Let me know what's yours. Keep them coming buddy, Cheers!!
@mikemendoza7270
4 жыл бұрын
Here are Silver Sky Factory Specs from PRS: We set up the Silver Sky like most of our models, setting the action at the 12th fret the string height should be about 2/32" on the treble side and 2.5/32" on the bass side. We set neck relief at the 8th fret with a .010 measurement. The pickups are a little different and we set the neck pickup at 2.5/32, middle at 3.5 and bridge at 2/32. I hope you find this information helpful.
@vintagepipesnightmares
4 жыл бұрын
Wow ! Thank you ! I am using this to my Stratocaster.
@miguelpessanha
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike. Regarding the pickup height, is that the same height for the Bass E and the Treble E, or is the latter closer to the strings?
@elijahblu_
3 жыл бұрын
@@vintagepipesnightmares how does your strat sound? Did you find that it translated well or did the measurements not sound the same on your strat than on a prs ss
@vintagepipesnightmares
3 жыл бұрын
@@elijahblu_ in the end I kept the 10 thou relief but my Strats sound better with all the strings at the same height. A little over 5/64 at 12 fret.It sounds better with the floating trem. I don’t know if I should call it sound or feel or both together. This is what a Strat was made to be used after all.
@trey_dizzle4161
2 жыл бұрын
I put med/high action on mine and .007 relief almost .008. I like it that way cause it's easier to mute individual strings
@AtulSharma-gx4jy
6 ай бұрын
I have brought it down to 1.75 mm on low E and it feels amazing. Had to lower the pickups but it is so much better now.
@bescanocft
6 жыл бұрын
thank you for taking the time in doing this! cheers!
@TheToneGeek
6 жыл бұрын
Bo E. No problem at all! Cheers! 🍺🍺
@BjoernR
4 жыл бұрын
I can’t thank you enough. I got a perfect Silver Sky and played it for 2 weeks. Then I realized a failure in the finish, a small bubble underneath. So I replaced this silver sky an got a new one with a terrible feeling. I tried to fix it by lower the string action. And it became worse. Now I’m fine. Everthing is set up perfectly. I’m not sure what happened to my Silver Sky, but I definetly didn’t got a Factory Setting.
@TheToneGeek
4 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome
@TheToneGeek
4 жыл бұрын
You made my day!!!! THANK YOU!!
@BjoernR
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheToneGeek Cheers!
@JihwanFive
5 жыл бұрын
This is so precious information, thank you very much!
@vladzubac5360
2 жыл бұрын
i found out over the years that the lower the action..the less muddy a guitar sounds..and it gets really creammy in the sound and also the strings geteasier to bend...so my advice..get the lowest possible action on your guitars..lower the pickups (usually 3mm when pressing down at the last fret) and you'll have the best strat tone!
@Bill.Worrell.Official
3 жыл бұрын
The action seemed very high to me when I played one, and this video confirmed that the one I played was about the same. I actually don't understand how someone would be comfortable with this high of action. I realize string action is subjective but this is notably high to where any efficiency went out the window. The strings don't fret out, on one hand, but especially in light of Ernie Balls, or even compound radius Fenders, I don't understand how anyone could be comfortable with that high of string action. Happy to hear justifications though...
@keithremedy
3 жыл бұрын
Does have an effect on tone I’ve always liked high action. It definitely helps if you’re playing SRV type stuff but it’s not for everybody
@KeepChessSimple
2 жыл бұрын
These specs are considered medium action.
@baronhead
Жыл бұрын
Nice just bought one and needed a very slight setup as it had a little string buzz on certain notes. Also I see someone else is a John Mayer and Dead and Co fan? 🎸👍😎nice pedal board.
@QualityJamTracks
Жыл бұрын
geez that action looks so high to me lol I have a core moc sand maple neck and foirst thing i did was lower the acton by half a turn on all saddles. Much better imo. A little buzz on B string but way more playable. It seems strange because I heard Paul say that John really likes low action ....who knows
@j_aaron116
4 ай бұрын
Hello, I am looking to swap the stock pick up with the suhr thornbucker. However, curious what pick up spacing i need to choose. Any guidance appreciated.
@KeepChessSimple
2 жыл бұрын
Is there a similar string height spec list for the PRS (SE) custom? I can only find specs for the high and low E string height
@MrSongwriter2
Жыл бұрын
You set the high and low e then use a radius guage matched to the fingerboard radius to set the middle 4
@ChrisJones-ht9zn
2 жыл бұрын
I'm confused by the relief. PRS say that they ship the silver sky with 0.010 relief but surely what you have shown in your setup is way lower than that.
@aerialsbyatul
Жыл бұрын
Can we go below the factory measurements for string height without too much buzz. I like my lower E to be 1.75 and higher E to be around 1.4 - 1.5 at 12th.
@jfbegley
4 жыл бұрын
Nice measurement. "A little bounce." Use a feeler gauge Dude.
@CrazyCow500
3 жыл бұрын
Literally clicked on this video to get technical info and thats what I got
@monkeysbum999
3 жыл бұрын
hold the guitar "to the light" and look at the shadow of the string against the fret ,with experience ,you can get to recognize the difference between almost no relief ,say 2 or 3 thou or so , 5 0r 6 ,ala Jeff Beck and say 8.You can certainly see "none" relief ,as Nigel Tufnel would say.
@bygigiiii
6 ай бұрын
does the strings height specs also work with a floating tremolo ?
@DannyMagro
2 жыл бұрын
Great information, thanks! Wanted to ask something maybe different. I notice tonal changes from when i bought it to now, mostly a loss in harmonics and resonance, is it possible a guitar absorbs humidity and leads to such tonal changes? I live in Europe in a humid country, was just wondering!
@mikemendoza7270
4 жыл бұрын
It also looked like you were taking neck relief measurement holding down 1st and 15th fret? Shouldn't you be fretting at 1st and last frets?
@hhattingh
2 жыл бұрын
I would be curious about the bridge saddles? Same distance from nut as fender etc?
@JMTrio
5 жыл бұрын
My Silver Sky has some heavy fret buzz on the 5th and 6th strings, especially between the 3rd fret to the 12th. I tried raising the saddles but couldn't get rid of the buzz. I contacted PRS to get the factory measurements and they suggested me to keep the saddles at the factory height and adding some relief with the trust rod. I added some relief little by little to the point that my 6th string is now at 2.6mm at the 12th fret, still buzzing. Would you have any suggestion for me?
@TheToneGeek
5 жыл бұрын
I'd ask if PRS or whoever you bought the guitar from, would provide a tune up voucher for someone to tune it up. Although unlikely, but still a possibility, the neck could have shifted enough already to cause the buzzing. (largely depends where you live) This is a tough one for me to diagnose without direct interactions BUT it sounds like you're on the right path by trying things out. Do you have a straight edge ruler to determine how straight your neck is and if there is any frets that have lifted?
@JMTrio
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheToneGeek Thank you for the quick answer and for trying to help me, really appreciated! I think I might have waiting a bit too long before asking for something like that, considering I got it back in July. When I got it, the string height matched your and the neck was straight flat (I have a straight edge ruler). I am not how to effectively check if any frets have lifted but it does not look like so. I might try contacting PRS again to check what they'll say
@TheToneGeek
5 жыл бұрын
@@JMTrio sounds good and good luck!! You'll know if the frets are raised if the ruler rocks over one of the frets from the next one of that makes sense
@JMTrio
3 жыл бұрын
@Azzi Guitar Yes I learned that since then. I went in a guitar shop and tried many custom shop and expensive guitars and all of them with a 7.25 radius had some fret buzz. Its very light and doesn't bother me anymore, still my favorite guitar :)
@StevenDoyleYes
2 жыл бұрын
Curious. Do any of your frets buzz on the low E string with this set up? Assuming normal thumb picking & playing unplugged. Thanks!
@Separade
Жыл бұрын
if you get buzzing with 2mm action on a electric guitar there is clearly something wrong with your guitar. Most Acoustics get played that way.
@MrKyleman98
3 жыл бұрын
Does it matter what gauge strings you use?
@MythicGuitarCompany
4 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much as low as the strings will go without buzzing and there is some buzz even at that height. Messed with several of these for customers AND own one for myself. If you like slammed low action this isn't the guitar for you. If you like what some consider higher action, this guitar will do wonders for you.. with that said, I'm thinking about putting SD David Gilmour pickups in mine.
@bm7760
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe invest in a digital caliper with depth gauge. Takes away the guesswork.
@Separade
Жыл бұрын
Good VIdeo Idea Bud, but this is not how you measure Pickup height
@zvonimirsarcevic7928
5 жыл бұрын
why don't you remove scratch plate..so we can what electronics looks like..:)
@TheToneGeek
5 жыл бұрын
That video is coming 👌
@torbenmeldgaard8112
5 жыл бұрын
Could you maybe put all data in a pdf and link to it?
@TheToneGeek
5 жыл бұрын
of course! I just uploaded to my GitHub here (It's a PNG) and I included my GIMP Editor source file. Let me know if you grab it! goo.gl/ZD88Du
@torbenmeldgaard8112
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheToneGeek - Thanks! Didn't get a notification of your response so i took the liberty of putting the data in my own sheet at goo.gl/aS5xbR. I'll go and check my own PRS SS one of these days. Also just a boxed version supposedly with factory setup but with my own truss rod adjustment .
@zvonimirsarcevic7928
5 жыл бұрын
tooo high..:)
@S3nna_12
5 жыл бұрын
Not really. For a 7.25" radius, that is quite remarkable.
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