It's a shame they completely scrapped PS2 compatibility from later models. Even with the compromised partial-emulation compatibility of the CECHE/C model it was nice to be able to put in your old discs and still be able to play these games through HDMI without so much work.
@genericjosh96
Жыл бұрын
With custom firmware you can play ps2 on slim and non bc consoles. Only caveat is you have to rip it as an iso to the hard drive, and there are a few more bugs but a lot of the games are playable
@ivanokmunoz
Жыл бұрын
There are patches for a lot of games
@hateWinVista
Жыл бұрын
Same here! Especially when PS2 transitioned from EE+GS with RDRAM(used on full compatible PS3s) to separated smaller GS(suspected to be 65nm)+ SoC(EE+RDRAM+IOP+SPU2+SDRAM) in 79000 and 90000 models, it means PS2 compatibility can still be evolved even further with better power consumption. PS2 finally stopped production back in 2013 so it's definitely feasible to preserve the compatibility on slim PS3s, could be sold as extra premium models on 320GB/500GB large ones. IIRC Ken Kutaragi stated PS3 will drop PS2 hardware once the emulator is completed. Unfortunately Sony only allows playing PS2 Classics downloaded from PSN, they could have done what Xbox did with whitelisted games but Sony just chose to be conservative.
@SonicBoone56
Жыл бұрын
@@genericjosh96 yep
@Aftrbrnr
Жыл бұрын
The reason for this was Sony was desperately trying to bring the price of the PS3 down given the the inflation adjusted prices for the launch 20 Gb and 60 Gb models are $737.64 and $885.46 today. Other features such as flash memory card readers from the 60 Gb model and the ability to play Super Audio CDs were also removed. The high launch price was among many reasons why for the majority of that particular console generation the Xbox 360 was able to dominate the PS3 in sales. While the PS3 ultimately out sold the 360 relatively slightly in the end, some people postulate this was because in the later part of the PS3's market life, it was cheap enough that people picked it up as a budget Blu-Ray player.
@bcd398
Жыл бұрын
You are the most balanced, truthful, and consumer-sided PlayStation-centric content creators. So many streamers, KZitemrs, vloggers have rosey tinted glasses when discussing their console or platform they're passionate about. I like that you call out Sony in their anti-consumer or anti-dev policies.
@UltimateInkling
Жыл бұрын
He deserves more subs.
@Dairunt1
Жыл бұрын
As a "Nintendo fan", I love to take a peek at PlayStation's metaphorical garden through Mystic.
@IISourAyyII
Жыл бұрын
he's the goat
@Nighttale233
Жыл бұрын
We need more youtubers like that with Nintendo's "evergreen" titles that aren't so evergreen and consists of ports, bugs, dripfeed content for the price of 60 dollars.
@ewoutverheij4745
Жыл бұрын
@@Nighttale233 I suppose Arlo would fit that description, while he loves the Nintendo games and doesn't want to be negative, when it comes down to it he won't shy away from talking critically when it's deserved. (which is the case more often than not)
@5persondude
Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a video from back in like 2008 or 2009 showing Jak and Daxter running on a PS3 demonstrating the exact same issue you saw in your video. I remember being excited learning that I could play PS2 games on my PS3, then being immediately let down when I saw the issue on-screen
@hurricane7727
Жыл бұрын
That's why to make sure to get a Actual Ps2.
@alchemistofsteel8099
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but most of the game with issues were eventually ported to PS3 with HD
@cmnidit4444
Жыл бұрын
Emulating jak 1 on pc is even more horrifying.
@farms6
Жыл бұрын
@@cmnidit4444 some people have decompiled jak one and ported it too pc now (edit: it’s called open goal)
@drwoHeylK
3 күн бұрын
if you have a launch model though, it will work fine.
@beautepley8352
Жыл бұрын
I look forward to Tuesday's and Friday's so much because of Mystic now. He's the only youtuber with gaming content that I genuinely do not skip around and want to watch the entire video. Thanks for awesome content Ryan and for being such a cool down to earth dude!
@fenbekus
Жыл бұрын
Same. Feels like he has the exact same nostalgia that I do.
@negativespace261
Жыл бұрын
Mega underrated channel for real
@eyegotthefifesheep
Жыл бұрын
Make you wipe your mouth off..
@taffyadam6031
Жыл бұрын
What’s with the apostrophes?
@matthewhardwick8208
Жыл бұрын
This is why I always keep older hardware in good condition. You never know if these games will work or even allowed to be available on future platforms.
@unicorntomboy9736
Жыл бұрын
I want Fire Emblem Awakening on Nintendo Switch. It is the game's tenth anniversary next year
@ThomastheDankEngine8900
Жыл бұрын
@@unicorntomboy9736 want an old Nintendo game to be buyable on Switch? That’s asking too much. Do you think Furukawa is made of money?! Nintendo is only the richest company in Japan.
@Cruxis_Angel
Жыл бұрын
@@unicorntomboy9736 citra+HD texture pack is your friend. Probably looks better than an official remaster from Nintendo
@unicorntomboy9736
Жыл бұрын
@@Cruxis_Angel I don't know how to do that
@MalikATL
Жыл бұрын
@@unicorntomboy9736 Pc of course
@Punisher1_1995
Жыл бұрын
The CECHA01 actually only supports around 99.8% of PS2 games while the CECHE01 support around 91%
@SomeAngryGuy1997
3 күн бұрын
What is the missing 0.2%?
@M1XART
7 сағат бұрын
@@SomeAngryGuy1997 I dunno. But i suspect 240P games.
@alonzor.2912
Жыл бұрын
Your work and dedication is unmatched. One of my favorite content creators on here.
@ExTremZero
Жыл бұрын
that hard work of putting some PS2 games inside a console and react to what is happening on screen. Feel that.
@thecoolguy549
Жыл бұрын
@@ExTremZero 🤣🤣☺️😊
@Mallerd
Жыл бұрын
Important to mention that all Jak, Ratchet and Clank and God of War games got native PS3 remasters so they are still all playable in some form on this PS3
@mlgleonardo310
Жыл бұрын
Not all games but the main titles yes
@no_misaki
Жыл бұрын
And some of those compilations are arguably the best way to play the games on PC as well. If you've got a half decent CPU and practically any GPU with vulkan support, you can get a 4k 60fps lock in the likes of jak collection, ratchet collection, sly cooper collection, and GoW collection (though that one can be a tad buggy) relatively easily. MGS collection still suffers from emulation related bottlenecks which causes slowdown in a few areas but is very playable nonetheless.
@mr.tyrone254
Жыл бұрын
@@no_misaki I think the HD remaster era as a whole in that generation was great especially the first party collections
@davidgill7412
4 ай бұрын
There was also a Tekken Tag Tournament HD port on the PS3 as well.
@craigsampson3386
Жыл бұрын
Hah this reminds me of my unusual way I played GTA: Vice City Stories back in the day 😂 I played the PS2 port when new at release in March 2007 (Australia), it was about 2 weeks just before the PS3 launched here but I started the game save on my PS2 first anyways, then later continued it on my PS3 2 weeks later and I used a special PS2 memory card adapter that adapts to USB 2.0 so I could transfer my PS2 game save file to PS3's internal memory and continue playing. Sooo basically I was playing a game designed for the PSP, that was ported to PS2 and I finished playing it on PS3 via backwards compatibility 😆 It ran fine btw.
@taffyadam6031
Жыл бұрын
Most intelligent brit
@craigsampson3386
Жыл бұрын
@@taffyadam6031 brit?
@taffyadam6031
Жыл бұрын
@@craigsampson3386 yes from england
@craigsampson3386
Жыл бұрын
@@phalxor and GTA
@MrJesse2250
Жыл бұрын
I sold my PS3 CECHA-01 during COVID out of necessity and I regret it so much, the PlayStation 3 was and is one of my favorite consoles of all time. I still play my current slim regularly with single player and online.
@georgetarrantiii2740
Жыл бұрын
Another great video on the PS3 man. I was wondering if you ever saw RIP Felix's video explaining why these models fail? Apparently the NEC-TOKIN thing was a bit of a myth and a temporary fix as the problems actually lie in the GPU. It could be interesting to cover. Here's the video for reference: kzitem.info/news/bejne/qmaLs3tpooiKjX4
@mrjaredbetaify
Жыл бұрын
Hey, one of the PS3 scene members here. Over half of these games (Black, Twinsanity, Legendia) are fixed on slim/super slim with custom configs, including dozens of other games that have problems on CECHC/E models, such as Silent Hill 2, Shadow Hearts series, Scarface, and many others. :)
@MysticRyan
Жыл бұрын
Yup I'm aware! Apologies for not mentioning it, I usually discuss these in the context of them being stock or what it was like when they first launched. There's a whole other world to these though once you've got CFW/HEN.
@STOPTHECLOWNS581
Жыл бұрын
Kinda. The config for scarface lowers the draw distance but still may occasionally crash, silent Hill 2 has slight graphical glitchs with people facial hair or eye lashes looking bright white in certain lighting conditions and Blacks config only fixes the spinning camera at the end of the fourth level it still has framerate problems and will still randomly teleport the player. It's still a great alternative I'd you don't want to hand over the cash for an A0/BO model.
@mogueraguh
8 ай бұрын
If you can add more detail and links aswell would be great. I have a fat ps3cfw and want to play twinsanity which does the same as what happened here
@crazyangel626
8 ай бұрын
@mogueraguh same here. I've been trying to play twinsanity on my ps3 forever. After watching this video I had given up hope. Then I came across this other video with a kid comparing the ps3 and xbox 360 gameplay, and he was playing with no problem. Help please.
@mogueraguh
8 ай бұрын
@@crazyangel626 my friend, I’ve got a pal and ntsc copy of twinsanity and surprisingly the pal copy works with some save minor auto save issues but the ntsc freezes at the loading screen
@Electro096
Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you pointed this out in this video, so people from UK/Europe got worst version of the Backwards compatible model PS3's. I was actually considering getting one a few years ago but seeing it run Ratchet and Clank like that I'm glad I picked up a Original PS2 four years ago. And just use my PS3 for PS3 games.
@cameronabshire1195
Жыл бұрын
It's very nice to have all these issues documented on video. Screenshots and descriptions can only do so much, this would be great if it could be attracted to compatibility lists.
@InstantLuc
Жыл бұрын
I have a phat PS3 (CECHA) with the full backwards compatibility and a modded PS3 slim. I do notice differences in how some games play, like occasional crashes in Persona 3 FES, but overall the software emulation on the PS3 slim is fine
@TPRES_74
Жыл бұрын
Surprised your Phat PS3 didn't turn into a toaster oven by now. Kept getting mine fixed a few times 09' then got a Slim in 10' and softmodded it.
@samamir8765
Жыл бұрын
Dude everyone should know that playing PS2 games on your PS3 will break your PS3 put marvel vs capcom 2 into your PS3 it will damage your PS3 Sony made it clear to disable the PS3 from ever playing those PS2 games on PS3 and only allow the PS2 games that won’t break your PS3 for sale on the PS3 PSN store the PS4 never broke once cause it was playing only PS4 games I will treat my PS5 the same way play the PS4 games only on the PS4 never on the PS5
@ThomastheDankEngine8900
Жыл бұрын
You know it’s always so funny to me gamers stance on backwards compatibility- Gamers during PS3: “why do you idiots offer BC? Don’t you know we only want new games? Why can’t you be more like Microsoft?” Gamers during PS4/PS5: “why don’t you idiots offer BC? Don’t you know we only care about classics? Why can’t you be more like Microsoft?” Sony is damned if they do, damned if they don’t when it comes to BC. At least when they don’t they don’t nearly go bankrupt like they did with PS3. To anyone who wonders why Sony doesn’t care about backwards compatibility, its because the consumers don’t and consistently vote with their wallet against it. Microsoft themselves admit less than 1% of people downloaded an OG Xbox game. If you’re salty about it stop whining and go pirate the game. Sony heard you loud and clear, the PS3 which had BC is a flop that everyone hates and the PS4 which has zero BC sold like hotcakes and is everyone’s wet dream console.
@taffyadam6031
Жыл бұрын
Most intelligent pirate, “yeah bro just go break the law”
@ThomastheDankEngine8900
Жыл бұрын
@@taffyadam6031 whose the last person to get arrested for downloading roms? I’ll wait.
@taffyadam6031
Жыл бұрын
@@ThomastheDankEngine8900 *who’s
@citricmantis_543
Жыл бұрын
@@ThomastheDankEngine8900 Gary Bowser.
@citricmantis_543
Жыл бұрын
@@ThomastheDankEngine8900 Also Xbox backwards compatibility is nice and I definitely would buy older PlayStation games if the were PS5 backwards compatible.
@Ish0tJR
Жыл бұрын
This was as good as it got in Europe. I got my 60gb model for free, a friends dad found it in the trash, blu ray drive was dead but everything else worked fine. My 40gb model got YLOD a few years later so I swapped the blu ray drive in it for the one in the 60gb model and boom, working BC PS3 :)
@excitedaboutlearning1639
Жыл бұрын
It's criminal that some people just dump their electronics in the trash.
@taffyadam6031
Жыл бұрын
Ew
@destroyermcw626
Жыл бұрын
@@taffyadam6031lol
@pengu6335
16 күн бұрын
You managed to remarry the blu-ray drive to the 60GB PS3?
@destructo3457
Жыл бұрын
Most of this games can be fixed by using emulator configurations on modded PS3's (managed to play Area 51 completely ok with a PS3 that didn't support backwards compatibility) curiously one of the games that's completely impossible to run no matter what you do even in a PC emulator is "Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects"
@Clay3613
Жыл бұрын
Can't fix Scarface though.
@Manic_Panic
Жыл бұрын
One thing that I found weird was Twinsanity crashing for him. I have a CECHC04 (European launch model) and a CECHA00 (Japanese launch model) and the game worked flawlessly on both. The only game I had issues with on CECHC04 was Hitman Contracts which was slowed down and Burnout 2 having that white shine. I wonder if the 80GB US revision model is actually different in some ways (for worse) from the PAL model because it appears to be that way.
@jarsofash
Жыл бұрын
For me it was Soul Reaver 2 that had a gamebreaking bug on my UK launch model PS3. It ran perfectly up until the point where you reach the dark forge, and the shadows didn’t appear for the obelisks in the shadow puzzle, so you couldn’t progress any further in the game as the puzzle became unsolvable. I remember that being such a massive disappointment for me at the time, as I’d just sold my PS2 to buy the PS3.
@taffyadam6031
Жыл бұрын
Your fault for being bri ish
@raziel4435
Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking specifically of this problem with SR2.
@jarsofash
Жыл бұрын
@@raziel4435 Even more reason why this series needs remastering/remaking.
@MysticRyan
Жыл бұрын
Yes! I was looking into having that game on this video but wasn't sure how long it would take to reach the game breaking part. That's a huge issue that to the unsuspecting, would be a massive disappointment to run into.
@Casketkrusher_
Жыл бұрын
Same here, the exact same pillar didn't render or whatever was going on, still glad I still have some PS2 consoles to play these gems, the way they're supposed to be played. Emulation or whatever the PS3 was doing was utter garbage anyway, emulation overal is the worst to experience OG titles. Many inaccuracies and glitches, who could enjoy to play games like that I would never understand.
@bolemhimself1703
Жыл бұрын
I remember playing Silent Hill 3 on my EEE PS3 and there was a strange wireframe around all the character models. As it was one of my favorite games, I ended up selling that model and just picking up a slim ps2 and slim ps3.
@ThomastheDankEngine8900
Жыл бұрын
Due to overheating you might be better off just picking up two separate systems in that case. PS3 slim is the best model imo. There is always a reason to have a PS2 as well.
@Clay3613
Жыл бұрын
@@ThomastheDankEngine8900 PS3 Slim doesn't play PS2...
@truthseekersthenewomega97
Жыл бұрын
@@Clay3613 a PS3 slim that was manufactured on or before the model number cech25**a or b can in fact accept PS2 disc when modded. A system over the cech3000 model won't except PS2 disc even when modded. That is due to Sony still leaving traces of ps2 hardware and emulation that one can add/ inject backwards compatibility once adding cfw and having a cobra payload installed.
@bolemhimself1703
Жыл бұрын
@@ThomastheDankEngine8900 This is exactly what I did. Picked up a RetroTink 5x for my PS2/Wii/N64 and nO rAgreTS
@bolemhimself1703
Жыл бұрын
@@Clay3613 No, but it also won't YLOD on you. All fat PS3's are ticking time bombs.
@alexisaguirrevazquez7900
Жыл бұрын
I've got a better solution: Original PS2 and a CRT.
@mrratchet
Жыл бұрын
There are also some titles that do not play correctly on the CECHA/B models. May be worth taking a look into those as well? :)
@richardgraham4827
Жыл бұрын
He already did...
@jpuc5568
Жыл бұрын
Eye gap
@Carlosk12
Жыл бұрын
@@richardgraham4827 When did he do it? Can u link the video?
@TGAProMKM
10 күн бұрын
Just want to say long live RPCS3 or in this case PCSX2.....
@AfterBurnerTeirusu
Жыл бұрын
Games that use the Kinetica engine suffer the most.
@timelymirror7826
Жыл бұрын
?
@Aragorn_Skywalker
Жыл бұрын
Imagine if someone modded a PS3 Slim to play PS2 games
@mr.noneofyourbusiness4176
Жыл бұрын
Someone could theoretically make a mod chip that would restore PS2 backwards compatibility on the PS3 slim.
@Manic_Panic
Жыл бұрын
That already exists. Hackers have used the PS2 Classics emulator to make many more games playable. It's reported that over 2000 PS2 games work (roughly half of the entire library). Some work fine by default, others you have to apply manual emu configs to make them playable. Unfortunately, some heavy hitters do not work like Jak X and the Ratchet & Clank games but thankfully, some of them have HD remasters or straight up ports like GoW 2. The PS2 Classics emu on PS4 is also quite decent. Currently, over 700 PS2 games are playable on a jailbroken PS4 and they run at 900p.
@IntenseMagic
Жыл бұрын
@@Manic_Panic Jak X worked fine on my CFW slim, and that was without the config file that improves stuff.
@amkobih4479
Жыл бұрын
I'm currently playing NFSU2 on my superslim, so it has already been done
@ConnorSeals
Жыл бұрын
I prefer A01 and B01 because of the correct 4:3 aspect ratio. And I’m willing to do the proper maintenance via delidding and CFW
@Carl-G
Жыл бұрын
It was one of my worst days of my life(well to do with PlayStation that is) :D when my Fat PS3 died(YLOD) :( I tried EVERYTHING(& spent nearly 1K to get to work. The Blu-ray drive went to) but it was dead :-/ I always LOVED BC on PS3. Shame the PS5 can't play all past PlayStation discs. Oh well, you can't always get what you want as they say.
@redthecollector
Жыл бұрын
Cool video! The 'geometry popping off in a weird direction depending on which way you're looking at them' is called a Vertex Explosion btw :) Great content !!
@Great-Documentaries
2 ай бұрын
The Wii can run 100% of GameCube games flawlessly. A modded Wii U can run 100% of GameCube games and 100% of Wii games flawlessly. MSFT and Sony never, ever came close to this kind of backwards compatibility once Sony quickly abandoned the US launch model of the PS3.
@Casketkrusher_
Жыл бұрын
Sucks they never got around making this work, a multi billion company like Sony can't even figure out how to make their consoles backwards compatable. What a joke.
@ShockinglyBleh
Жыл бұрын
Still more that what the PS5 can play.
@SjoerdvanGestel
Жыл бұрын
Europe got treated so bad by Sony in the PS3 eara...
@PnC_GameZnThingZ
Жыл бұрын
Totally off subject, but I got Cary Elwes to sign my copy of Bard's Tale
@jasonstopsign
Жыл бұрын
Yo bro dropping heat been a long time subber and you don't disappoint
@epicfail420
Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, Crash Twinsanity was unplayable on certain PS3 models (not sure if region and or version also contributes to this) after a certain point. Right before you go to the Academy of Evil, which is the second to last major hub world in the game, the game freezes and you cannot get past the transition to the hub world, even upon reloading. It’s been a few years since I’ve last seen this issue anywhere, so I’d assume there is some kind of fix out there now. The PS2 v1.00 version had crashes and freezes present, but not gamebreaking. The Dingodile fight was prone to freezing towards the end, requiring to fight the boss again, but you can get past the freeze.
@Clay3613
Жыл бұрын
How could you not cover Scarface? The PS2 version refuses to run properly on anything but original hardware, it turns into a sluggish slideshow on the PS3!
@MATTKBAN
Жыл бұрын
Area 51 is an awesome shooter! Had an awesome online multiplayer as well.
@TechWizard28
Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I got a first run PS3
@Juuuni30
Жыл бұрын
Thankful for fans that worked so hard to make patches for some of these games. CFW/HEN really makes the PS3 shine.
@cemsengul16
Жыл бұрын
Same! You can now play MK Shaolin Monks on a PS3 Slim thanks to a community patch. You just place the config next to the iso and name it the same.
@joojdobixo
Жыл бұрын
@@cemsengul16 where can i get these patch files?
@modbox9560
Жыл бұрын
@@joojdobixo The world wide web
@modbox9560
Жыл бұрын
@@joojdobixo They arnt patches they are configs for library of games
@rhyuu-bc8vl
Жыл бұрын
The ratchet issues were heartbreaking for me
@RyomaHoshi22
Жыл бұрын
Are any of the ps2 mortal kombat games playable on these models on the ps3?
@hassanrehman3521
Жыл бұрын
i got a backwards compatible ps3 a few months ago and have had tekken tag tournament lying around since the early 2000s. i just thought the game was broken hence the slow speed😂
@indicasmok398
Жыл бұрын
Such chill vibes. It’s genuinely very comforting watching your videos
@emadstarns291
Жыл бұрын
The only PS2 I know for sure will break the PS3 is marvel vs capcom 2 it was the only game I played on my PS3 that broke my PS3 not just 1 PS3 but 5 of them didn’t know it was the PS2 game until Sony stopped releasing PS3 consoles that don’t play PS2 games then finally my PS3 never broke again anyone who says their PS4 broke ever is a lier cause it didn’t play PS3 PS2 PS1 games only PS4 games that’s why PS4 consoles never broke I will never play a PS4 game on my PS5
@snakeontherun4818
Жыл бұрын
12:29 sing with me, sing for the year sing for the laughter, sing for the tear sing with me, if its just for today today mabey tomorrow, the good lord will take you away sing with me, sing for the year sing for the laughter, sing for the tear sing with me, if its just for today today mabey tomorrow, the good lord will take you away
@Rukzy
Жыл бұрын
19:04 the description is perfect, idk what else to call not being able to see the player but just a mash of colors of the background, so don't act like it was a bad description, the game is unplayable due to the background making it unable to see shit
@NextNate03
Жыл бұрын
I got tired of dealing with the fat PS3s. My near lanch (December 2006) died 4 years in. Sony wanted to know if I would like to upgrade to the Slim model. I said no. Sony sent me back a different refurbished model. Was not happy, I lost all my data because it wanted me to reformat my HDD. Refurbished PS3 lasted 2 years. Same thing as before, I said no to the upgrade and got back a different refurbished model. Lost all my data the the 2nd time. I decided to buy a brand new Super Slim White PS3. That died 11 months. Repair was free, Sony sent me out the same model (had the same serial number). I was very happy, I get to enjoy my old data from my HDD, that what originally thought. I reinstall my HDD, to my surprise, it wanted me to format my HDD. I lost all of my data 3 times. The only good news I have is my PS3 Super Slim has been working fine since 2013.
@hurricane7727
Жыл бұрын
The Ps3 Slim Now Costs a lot Less .
@ICARUS_I
Жыл бұрын
Regardless of the slowdown on Tekken Tag Tournament, all the Tekken games on PS2 still look fantastic to this very day.
@LawrinMaxwellsmpc500
Жыл бұрын
Facts 💯💯💯💯
@caphowdy666
Жыл бұрын
Always nice to see footage of Black as it was one of the last games I played on the PS2 and was the game that got me into playing FPS games. The graphics were way ahead of most PS2 games, which is probably what hooked me on it. I remember when the PS3 was about to come out I bought a new 40in HD TV a few weeks before in preparation, and ran the PS2 on it for a little bit (had a 28in CRT before that). Obviously the PS2 was built at a time that old school 4:3 CRT TVs were a thing so you had two options, play with black bars at the side of the screen or use the fit to screen option which would stretch the picture horribly. Only played a few games on the PS2 once I moved to the new TV, one being Black, another being Gran Turismo 4 and one of the WWE games (which I only did because I finally wanted to try the online aspect). While in theory having a backwards compatible PS3 was a great idea in theory (I am in the UK so was the software based one), once I saw the full HD widescreen graphics of PS3 games, I never played a PS2 game again. I think Black would have been the only one I would have given a chance to, but as I got Resistance and COD3 with my PS3, I already had my FPS quota filled.
@taffyadam6031
Жыл бұрын
Lmfao >uk >dropping good games bc “muh graphics” >fps on a console So many many things wrong with this story it’s funny
@8StringFuryGaming
Жыл бұрын
I was expecting these issues to pop up in just the obscure games, but not with the bigger titles like God Of War. It would've been common sense for them to iron out those issues on their first party games at the very least.
@Jonnygunboy
Жыл бұрын
That's one of the reasons they made all those HD collections apparently.
@Casketkrusher_
Жыл бұрын
@@Jonnygunboy Those HD remasters are purely made out of nostalgic greed. All of them, still today with those remakes. That's the whole purpose, they exactly know which franchise or game they have to choose to make it work for sales. For example look at the Ratchet & Clank HD trilogy, those are godawful, well most HD remasters are utter garbage anyway, no soul is left.
@bustergundo516
Жыл бұрын
I have tried Shadows of Destiny (PS2) on PS3 and only got to chapter 3...any plans to show that game and it's performance? Good video!
@mexdrago3009
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video. I see a backwards ps3 near me but still asked for the model number. Hdmi isn't worth it if there's going to be artifacts. I already have a retrotink 4k and want my ps2 to be hdmi so I can use a hdmi selector. Also since I moved from component and scart cables to hdmi.
@jadkhayat4674
Жыл бұрын
What would be more interesting, that probably hasn't been documented anywhere is a comparison with games that use peripherals. For example the Eyetoy, games that used the PS2 HDD, etc...
@truthseekersthenewomega97
Жыл бұрын
Some of those games don't work at all it's exactly like the kinnect on Xbox and even PS4 games on PS5 Most games that use a sensor usually don't work or have that feature completely removed as most games developed with a tracking accessory won't or never get remastered for that same reason. You can visit the PS3s bc compatibly list on wiki/PS3/backwardscompatibility. It'll show you what games work and for which console.
@joet6434
Жыл бұрын
I remember having my launch day PS3 & relying heavily on PS2 games during the initial period of the PS3 when the titles on offer either played & looked better on xbox 360 or the titles on launch being small & not all that great but thankfully that changed as they went along. I still have my PS3 & occasionally play it & all my PS2 collection worked with no issues, sucked when they removed that functionality in later revisions to save money & make the console astetics more pleasing.
@joet6434
Жыл бұрын
@John Doe I played the original Half Life on PC & played the Orange box collection on my 360, so i am unable to answer your question. Sorry.
@jamesporterfield2340
Жыл бұрын
Hello mistic I am Jamie I love your videos keep up the good work bro what about sports games I like football basketball baseball hockey games I have ps3 Eo1
@Prenihility
Жыл бұрын
Shotana Studios did a GREAT video on this very thing! I was always bummed out about my E01... UNTIL THEN! I was always scratching my head when people said "your PS2 games will look worse on your PS3 actually, because of upscaling and such". I always thought "... they look even BETTER than they did on my PS2!". The smoothing from the emulation is awesome! Which is why emulation is the ultimate form of B/C. It has the potential to do even MORE than hardware if it's emulated through and through. I actually love my lead reballed E01 even more and don't feel bad about missing out on the A01 at all. I can always buy one later if I really want it. And on the plus side, the fact that PS3s are so unreliable has made the prices tank over the years instead of rise. I remember when sealed A01s were going for $2500! Now it's more like $1000-1500. There's still an embittered part of me that hates Sony and how their company culture made a turn for the worse in the 7th generation. There's still a strong sense of longing for emulation/backwards compatibility to be explored. And overall just a better company that actually takes pride in its past. Instead of making baseless blanket statements and doing the polar opposite, inversion of what they said. I haven't gotten a PlayStation console since my PS3 and honestly don't even intend to until Sony de-scumbag themselves. The PS3 should have had 110% put into it for $600 back in 2006. Oh, and by the way, you can add Primal (2003) to that list. It has black artifacting from time to time. And it's great to see people still making videos about PlayStation backwards compatibility. PS3 especially.
@GoldSrc_
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that problem with Black also happens with PCSX2, and yes, you can sometimes teleport to other places in the map, even on some roofs lol.
@Tonba1
2 күн бұрын
Is it only the Euro Ps3's that have emulation for physical ps2 games?
@negativespace261
Жыл бұрын
Criminally underrated channel dude. Just consistently great content and news aggregation, editing, commentary, etc. Your videos are ones I look forward to each week.
@GymLeaderJack
Жыл бұрын
691k is under rated?
@gilbert64
Жыл бұрын
@@GymLeaderJack look the views genius
@Dexoz607
Жыл бұрын
Yo mysic i have like 200 cd ps2 games most of them just copy is it works on ps3 fat? I dont have a fat version but i wanna know if it works or no
@akwilk80
Жыл бұрын
For the longest time I thought the Burnout 2 bright white issue was due to the ISO i had on my jailbroken PS3 slim. Good to know
@taffyadam6031
Жыл бұрын
Most intelligent pirate
@pepsidude8919
Жыл бұрын
I still have a backwards-compatible PS3 model myself which I got off of Amazon a few years back. It's the original 60 GB model though with the full PS2 support and it seems to work fine too for the time being since I've been lucky so far being that I didn't get the YLOD on it yet or anything.
@13Gangland
Жыл бұрын
You'll be fine. My has collected dust, set there for years, and still turns on like nothing.
@pepsidude8919
Жыл бұрын
@@13Gangland If you say so then, and thanks. That's also nice that your PS3 still works fine too so far. I really like the backwards-compatible PS3 models, but a lot of them though seem to have a lot of console issues and errors, particularly with the YLOD and I've even been through a few different PS3 systems already as well, all of which were also backwards compatible with PS2 games.
@rikustorm13
Жыл бұрын
It's ok about Ratchet and Clank, I played the awful game called Spyro Enter the Dragonfly
@Dirty_Bear22
Жыл бұрын
I remember the game. Managed to skip money bags on the GameCube port lol.
@codsnip3r6
Жыл бұрын
Gta liberty city stories(PS2) has very bad performance issues like framerate on non backwards compatible consoles, I was wondering if the CECHE01 model will fix that? I recently bought one and is my biggest worry right now.
@DankRedditMemes
Жыл бұрын
Guessing we'll eventually see a "PS1 Games That Break PS2 Backwards Compatibility"? Never actually owned a PS2, but once my brother borrowed a friend's PS2, and I tried playing FFVII on it, and the game wouldn't boot, just a black screen with the negative sfx occasionally playing, which spooked me.
@WebstersYouTube
Жыл бұрын
BloodRayne 2, looks like they applied some kind of visual filter by placing a single polygon in front of the camera and then applying the filter as the texture to that polygon. The reason I suspect that is that the line through the middle not only follows the camera rather than the player, but also because that line would represent the seams between two tris on a face.
@truthseekersthenewomega97
Жыл бұрын
I would object I would love to see someone actually use av cable components to play PS2 games and check the compatibility that way.. alot of the game errors are due to upscaling where the PS3s Gpu is trying real hard to upscale and emulate these games and due to many games being locked at a certain frame rate and output using an HDMI cable kills backwards compatibility on cech C and E models. I would love to see Ryan do this play with cable components and check backwards compatibility in that way on the e model he has and see if av cables helps these games out. Not sure if anybody has done this before to be exact.
@truthseekersthenewomega97
Жыл бұрын
Another reason cech a and b models go bad, the video and graphics HDMI output end up dying , not to mention the south bridge causing the GPU and CPU to overheat and many other problems. You got too understand that PS2 games didn't get patches quite often on the PS3 and if they did, what Sony did was unlock frame rates and or lock them to 720p-1080p and 1080i. Kinda of an upscale. Sony knew they couldn't get those games to work properly, hence why Sony remastered many PS2 games as hd remasters as they knew the PS2 games had problems uncapping frame rates and another reason why ps plus doesn't see many PS2 and PS1 games as many are stuck or capped. Another reason PS4 never fully got PS2 classic games as they used the previous PS2 classics from the PS3.
@truthseekersthenewomega97
Жыл бұрын
Remember only check a and b has the hardware and software tied to the console cech c and e don't however as Ryan explained that cech a and b has this weird stretch of a wide screen kinda output on games during gameplay which can be fixed with av cables as those were the original hardware's component and module it was made on.
@laureldaigneault4030
Жыл бұрын
One of my favorites is Driver Parallel Lines: the main character keeps on twitching every few seconds. When I was a child, I thought that my disk was scratched and was so sad, but I later found out it was just an emulation issue 😛
@ShadowRush2112
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure which model I have but NFS: Underground refused to get past the main menu screen. The controller connects but I can't select or move anything.
@littlejam5984
Жыл бұрын
I knew some PS2 Games had problems but I didn't expect it to be that bad. Also with Black nowadays there is only the Xbox Option if you want it BC because this works flawless on literally every Generation
@shazmanbound1496
10 ай бұрын
Since you have the 60gb original PS3 model that is fully compatible with PS2 games. Have you repair it as of late? Any issues with those old models? Any modding done to the system to last longer?
@michealhunt6607
Жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that ALL PS3's can play PS2 games. I soft modded my super slim and i was suprised at how many PS2 games actually worked on it No reason why they just couldn't have just let you put a PS2 disc into a later model PS3 and throw up a warning or tell you if its incompatible otuside of wanting to sell you them again (PS2 classics)
@tsubasaholicmokona
Жыл бұрын
Not really. Later versions of ps3 uses a ps2 emulator to run the games. This emulator turns off a lot of controllers from the system to work, because emulation is too heavy. That's why you can't play ps2 games from an external hdd or a real disc.
@Phantron
Жыл бұрын
with CFW you can use a huge list of unofficial configs to run many more PS2 games and better :)
@leeallenbeal
Жыл бұрын
I never had any problem with ps2 games on my phat ps3 I've played blood rane game work real good
@jaystapes3086
Жыл бұрын
Hey, i have an 80GB backwards compatable one and i downloaded the PS2 emulation software from the PS store, and I am able to play Crash Twinsanity flawlessly.
@YellowMohamad1234567
Жыл бұрын
I own a PS3 CECHE01 and that thing runs like a champ. Its also worth noting that between the E01 and A01 that E01 is more reliable than the A01 but again there both old consoles that need to be looked after.
@chdn
Жыл бұрын
I always found it interesting that my model couldn't play Jak 1 at all (completely crashed in Geyser rock), plays Jak 2 very poorly, but yet I swear it ran Jak X better than my PS2 ever did despite being the same physical disc. The game didn't just look cleaner but I could almost swear it was running at a higher frame rate and it never encountered the save bug Jak X was notorious for like my PS2.
@marcopolo547_
Жыл бұрын
Does Crash Twinsanity Work on the Ps3 Cecha01 Model ? Bc i have the ceche01 & it freezes the same way. 7:20
@MrRhysReviews
Жыл бұрын
Man this is super unfortunate, especially since I was basically JUST playing the Ratchet Series and Tekken at the time... Glad I didn't get it at the Launch $999 price (which would have required me trading my PS2 and all the games to get it regardless, so what would've been the point?) and got the System when all the PS2 BackCompat was stripped out (don't forget that ALL Models have PS1 BackCompat, so I was able to finally revisit that vast Library that I had, I could play it all on PS2 but was busy playing said PS2 Games so stopped with the PS1 stuff) and the console was basically the same as the Xbox 360 (I think around $750 roughly at the time) I eventually got mine in 2008 so only about a Year and some change after it launched here in Australia, I made a deal with my Mum that whenever Burnout Paradise or GTA 4 launched (whichever First, I Pre-Ordered both as I was a huge Burnout and GTA fan during the Late PS2 Era) I'd get the PS3 and those games as my Birthday/Christmas present for the year. Got my PS3 in early 2008 along with Burnout Paradise when it released, then GTA 4 a few months later 👍 and cause I waited and it was that years 1 (technically 3 😅) gift anyway I kept my PS2 Slim and my entire Library. Still have it all, and all my Consoles going back to the PS1, then every Console and large libraries for each starting with the PS3/360/Wii Generation (and have always had all the Nintendo and PlayStation Handhelds)
@Man_mannly
Жыл бұрын
Mystic, you should Frankenstein your ultimate ps3 by putting a ps3 slim 21xx gpu in it with a little thing that tricks it to make it bootable
@DarkNeon27
Жыл бұрын
When I jailbroke my CECHE01 Model I was able to install a custom software based emulator that fixed a lot of these issues and still allows you to use the discs. It also has a lot of settings you can change if something isnt working quite right.
@KylesGameRoom
Жыл бұрын
I bought a backwards compatible PS3 to play Crash Twinsanity and Tak of the Power of Juju, and both of those games dont work 😭😭
@timelymirror7826
Жыл бұрын
is the disc scratched
@KylesGameRoom
Жыл бұрын
@@timelymirror7826 nope. Plays normal on my PS2, but the cutscenes stutter and game crashed in the tutorial level
@Manic_Panic
Жыл бұрын
That is really strange. I have the Japanese (full PS2 hardware) and European (partial PS2 hardware) launch PS3s and Twinsanity runs flawlessly on both. Do you have the US 80GB PS3 by any chance? Apparently, this model is not compatible with Twinsanity since Ryan can't run it either. I wonder if it has worse PS2 emulation than the CECHC04/03.
@taffyadam6031
Жыл бұрын
Super smart
@XRelays
Жыл бұрын
Babe wake up, Mystic just uploaded
@dave93x
Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they even cared and made every PlayStation backwards compatible 😮💨 A PS5 with hardware based backwards compatibility would be a dream.
@vascomanteigas9433
Жыл бұрын
It would to be too costly.
@mr.noneofyourbusiness4176
Жыл бұрын
@@vascomanteigas9433 I agree, even though it would be nice.
@Reaperazz23
Жыл бұрын
Pretty funny I’ve just recently tried to play Area 51 on my ps3 and had to pull out the ps2 to play.
@Araxtos
Жыл бұрын
I have the European 60GB ps3 and another game that gave me weird trouble was Shadow of Memories. For some reason at the start of the game there is a cutscene that doesn't work and you get a black screen with only sound. I had to use my ps2 to play past the cutscene, then transfer the file to my ps3 and continue the rest of the game like normal. But the vast majority of the games I play on it work fine, so all in all I am still happy with it ( even though the L letter from the front is missing from mine, so I own a Paystation 3 which always makes me laugh when I see it)
@taffyadam6031
Жыл бұрын
Why? Just live in America
@SaadNabil
Жыл бұрын
16:25 well, R&C did released the trilogy on PS3!
@fez245
11 ай бұрын
Am i correct in thinking that the a01 didn't release in all markets?
@Artoooooor
Жыл бұрын
If a console claims to run PS2 games but does not do it - it is a scam.
@DP12321
Жыл бұрын
Great video! Lots of in-depth content. Though I disagree that they are worh getting, because even with maintenance, it's still very unreliable. The 7th generation provided us with the most unreliable systems ever made, with the 360's red ring being the most infamous.
@noobinitas
Жыл бұрын
I just got a a backwards compatible ps3, some of the ps3 games I have require a firmware update…so my question is if I update the firmware, would that kill my backwards compatibility?
@survivalhh2995
Жыл бұрын
no it would not this is a false rumor the hardware for backwards compatibility is buit into these systems there is no update that removes the feature.
@Sestain
Жыл бұрын
Crash Twinsanity can be fixed if you use CFW and enable debug settings for the PS2 emulation
@Essu_
Жыл бұрын
In my experience, Crash Twinsanity doesn't start hanging until you get the Academy section.
@scarrface28
Жыл бұрын
Love mostly that my CECHE/C doesn't over heat a much as my A used to, because it isn't essential 2 consoles. It makes them less likely to YLOD from my experience.
@nicolethewitch7
Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend ps2 over ps3,with the games and all?? Or some other console,I never had any so idk what to buy that can play some good games
@Yixdy
Жыл бұрын
Oh Man, you reminded me of an old memory. Picked up a used PS2 memory card so I could relive some childhood favorites, and it had a hacked FFX save on it with 99(9?) Of every sphere, got to breeze through the story with a super OP Tidus. It also had a Max Payne save on it that I didn't bother to play, and another few from games I also already owned, but I can't remember
@patrickeggerton-smyth8086
Жыл бұрын
The real kicker for me is having a CECHC 60GB PAL model, and the one game I'd really want to play nicely upscaled doesn't work - OutRun 2006: Coast 2 Coast. No matter which versions I try they all crash at the car select screen (basically any time 3D graphics are shown cos you can skip over this, get to the race and it'll hang there instead).
@ComfyCherry
Жыл бұрын
the tekken one is really cool because it looks to still be running at 60fps just slowmo that'd be really cool for like B-roll on a video about it.
@GymLeaderJack
Жыл бұрын
Backwards compatibility on ps3 is a give and take. With the a model, it uses ps2 hardware to play the games so they aren't upscalled but 98% of the library is playable. The emodel uses emulation that wasn't designed very well but does upscale the games but, only about 60% of the library is playable.
@atlg9949
Жыл бұрын
12:29 Sing with me, sing for a year Sing for the laughter, and sing for the tear
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