A true cliffhanger! Nice. I expected the MUM8 first and PSI second.
@cookiebytz
11 ай бұрын
Well you did reveal them on Working Audio Tools over the last couple of episodes. Hope they help you smash it. Now I'm off on my Quest! ⚔
@tutubeos
11 ай бұрын
Wow… those are big guns. I didn’t expect that, but it’s an understandable choice.
@alphimusic
11 ай бұрын
Fun to follow you choosing you monitor. It would be interesting what you will say in 4-5 years from now, probably you should do a follow up video then :) My studio is equipped with PSI A25, ATC SCM 25, KH310 and Avantone Mix Cubes. And to be honest, the monitor I would through out is the KH 310, however they are inspiring to work on, but as soon as it comes to mixing they are not useful to me. However, I would say there is no perfect monitor, and in my situation, if I would only mix on the PSI, I would not be as happy with my mid range in the end of the day, and if I only worked on the ATC, I would miss the most upper frequencies and also probably not be as dialed in when it comes to the full spectrum of a mix with in terms of time and space.
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Haha. This is true. I left crumbs on Insta too😬
@PSIAudio1
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your excellent review and your decision to go for the A23-M! And thanks to all the constructive comments... and the others ;-)
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
You are more than welcome! Congratulations on truly magnificent speakers!
@oceanus123
10 ай бұрын
Yeees. Bravo les gars de psi ! Fier de vous compter parmis mes voisins
@TheSakuraGumiLTD
11 ай бұрын
Here it is!!! KRK ROKIT 5's becoming the elite choice 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Where all the pros start. 😜
@TheSakuraGumiLTD
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 They were actually my first monitors... my God, just going to another brand in the same price bracket made a huge difference. That was a log long time ago now... 18 years ago🤣dark days
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
@@TheSakuraGumiLTDThey were my first monitors too😂 And I had them in a 1m wide alcove🤣
@Tazmanian_Ninja
11 ай бұрын
Yes. KRK ROKIT 5's will now become the new studio standard, for decades to come! ... But ONLY with a rolled-up sock stuffing its bass reflex port. The type of sock, let alone material composition, will remain veiled in secrecy for decades too - as Ed will keep that a secret.
@MarcoVialeBakmaind
11 ай бұрын
This speakers are on my wishlist but I need to wait some time to collect the money. At the moment I have pair of A21m which are also really good speakers. But since I’ve listened to the A23m here in my studio I was blown away by the midrange. They are celestial on female voices and so rich in details… Really great speakers, for sure the best ones I’ve ever heard.
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
They are truly wonderful! Good luck saving!
@BI11YB0NE5
11 ай бұрын
Congratulations on your new monitors! I’ve recently completed the under 10k 3 way monitor journey myself! This series was great to watch. Thank you for the immense amount of work I know this entailed.
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate your comments. Which speakers did you audition and choose?
@BI11YB0NE5
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorneI auditioned the Focal Trio 11be, Adam S3H, PMC 6-2, ATC SCM45a, Barefoot MM27, Genelec 8351b, ATC SCM25, and Genelec 8361a. I wasn’t able to listen to a pair of KH420’s or PSI’s as I have zero social media presence and getting demos is very difficult in Germany. After hearing the 8361a’s at Blackbird Studio studio C, and Mike Elizondo’s studio I decided to go with them. My rooms dimensions are not ideal and I must say the genelec’s GLM System helps out with that in a huge way. Monitoring is very subjective and great mixes have been achieved on all of the monitors yourself and I auditioned, but the Genelec’s suited me best. Thanks again for your excellent video, and enjoy your beautiful PSI’s.
@Gabbanadj
11 ай бұрын
Wonderful choice on the PSI's , this is a worthy upgrade from the Neumanns
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
100%. Night and day difference!
@weschilton
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm definitely with you on the analog vs DSP thing... every speaker I heard that uses DSP has some weirdness to it that is difficult to describe, but is definitely there. I find it distracting. Its especially prominent in the Barefoots and the newer Genelecs. That's why ultimately I went with ATCs, they have many of the same features as the PSIs and sound incredibly natural to me. I think we have different tastes in sound as I prefer a less scooped sound with more clarity in the mids, so the ATCs were for me perfect. Evenr the 25As have enough bass for my small room. Unfortunately the only PSIs I've been able to listen to were 2-ways, but they are absolutely excellent speakers! So congratulations! I think once you get a Trinnov system in there, everything will be perfect, and you probably won't need a sub.
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Thanks, Wes. It seems to be a popular contest between ATC and PSI when people decide they want all analog. (Is it the only contest? What other all analog speakers are there?)
@weschilton
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne Maybe the Focal Trios? I didn't like them though. Very harsh top end IMO.
@samuelhof2192
9 ай бұрын
I have the same speakers as well. Only one thing more to mention. Besides all the facts mentioned in this Video they‘re still very pleasing, natural and for a mastering grade speaker charming to hear. And they dont give you the feeling you want to switch them off after sometime because of beeing overprecise and analytical. So said i‘m coming from Adam Speakers. Love my A23‘s a lot. I think i will never buy a new Studio Speaker. Greetz from Switzerland
@EdThorne
9 ай бұрын
You’re 100% right. These were a legacy purchase for me. I don’t need to upgrade again.
@jossfunk
11 ай бұрын
I was sure of the result ! i own my self a pair of PSI - A 21M that i really love but just can't afford the A 23 M....
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
They’re all great speakers! Glad you’re liking the 21s.
@rodrigoraynor
11 ай бұрын
Great choice 🎉, I've listened then on gear fest UK as well , one of the best speakers on the market
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Ah, yes, that was in Paul’s room with Trinnov and the AVAA low end systems too. Incredible products!
@rodrigoraynor
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne I'm happy about your decision, I got a pair of type 07 , soon I will finish my new room and listen properly, thanks to share your experience, I got the same as well, it's was a pleasure to meet you at gear fest and I hope the best bro
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Likewise, I remember. Brazil right?
@rodrigoraynor
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne yes , it's me , good to know that you remember my face 😆
@StephenBaysted
9 ай бұрын
I've just been comparing the A23M with the Barefoot MM27s today in my studio. Couldn't get on with the Barefoots, but the A23Ms are amazing. Going to be ordering a pair on Monday.
@EdThorne
9 ай бұрын
Great choice. I hated the Barefoots, sadly.
@malibustacy3606
8 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne Streaky made a video about Barefoots a while ago saying something very similar to what you said, which he followed up with another video that should have been entitled "damage control."
@adrianudrea3780
11 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that you will buy a MUM-8 because of the new technology of the cabinet , drivers , amp etc and to be honest , the price is also more than fair , £4,162.50 a pair . I'm also very interested to buy a pair of these in future !
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
They are exceptional speakers and definitely in my top 3!
@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThornehow’s the low on the MUMs from a bass heavy techno point of view.
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
It’s tight and punchy. I liked the richness in the PSIs though. A combination of both would have been ideal.
@PrincipalAudio
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review Ed! just ordered some 2nd hand A25-M speakers (earlier versions that have the power LED top-right of the woofer) for the grand price of £3250 using my "new car fund". It's one of the best financial decisions I think I've ever made in my life. I mean, I have a bicycle to use in the meantime! 😂 Picking up my pair today in a few hours. Will trial them with/without the Neumann KH750 subwoofer and with/without the MA-1 alignment to see whether Neumann's implementation would work well with these vs my old KH120As. Should be interesting!
@PrincipalAudio
2 ай бұрын
Blown away by them! Using Neumann KH750DSP to flatten the room and extend the system down to 18Hz. Definitely going to up my mixing skill as I was obviously limited by the KH120As. I can hear that now. Next purchase will definitely have to be a Trinnov Nova.
@Groove81TV
11 ай бұрын
Now i hear you talking :) They are super . Love them ! Succes mixing !
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Thanks! 🔥
@stevespacek8893
8 ай бұрын
Hey great and informative video re 10grand studio monitors! Have seen and heard so many gush over the ATC's- and deservedly so. So to hear that PSI have bested ATC's efforts is both interesting and amazing. I've never listened to PSI monitors but have always been interested in their baby A14- the broadcast versions with the carry handles on top. I like the idea of being able to take my hi end monitoring system with me wherever I go! Plus analog circuitry all the was for the natural sound and response, set by the manufacturers. Have ended up with a set of "super nearfields" by a company called Abacus Electronics- out of Nordham Germany. C-Box 3(in concrete). All analog, with no DSP, reflex ports or passive radiators. Totally closed mini wonders that somehow manage to play all the way down to 35HZ. Apparently a German Mastering house secret! On another note- with regards to your new monitors positioning. I'm thinking wouldn’t it be better to have the tweeters/mid driver units on the outside with regards to your setup.. Ideally you want as near as perfect an equal sided triangle between the monitors and your head. What with bass being monophonic, wouldn’t it be better to have the LF woofers on the inside and take advantage of a wider sweet spot, whilst also completing the equal sided triangle monitoring position.. I'm sure you have your reasoning for this but just a thought;))
@HondoFelder
10 ай бұрын
I was expecting you to have the XM Pulsars! I'd love to hear more about the DSP vs Analog thing if you have a minute. I'm on the verge of pulling the trigger on either PSI, XM, or 8c. Thanks so much!
@EdThorne
10 ай бұрын
Feel free to hit me up on Instagram (@TheEdThorne)
@MarkVO
11 ай бұрын
I remember checking the price of the PSI vs the MUM8 and noticed that they were very similar in price. I didn't realise (much to my shock) that the price for the MUM8s was for a PAIR. The fact that Mark and James were able to get THIS close on what is effectively their first try and literally almost half the cost of the PSIs is a testament to their incredible work. This was a fantastic video series, Ed. Thank you for taking us on the journey and as a subscriber to both you and the wonderful PDP chaps it was great to watch the collab between you two. Great chemistry and I think it was an excellent idea.
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the lovely comment, Mark!
@musicmwmusic
11 ай бұрын
Brilliant! Having walked this road not that long ago I can definitely say that you made the right choice. You will hear the differences in your mixes immediately. \m/
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Thanks. I am doing already! I’ve had to adapt to the additional top end and brightness compared to the Neumanns but I’m loving it!
@musicmwmusic
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne Lol!! Suddenly low pass filters become so much more integral ;)
@checkitout611
11 ай бұрын
Got this info from an insider ..... Ed has actually picked the Jensen JS65T 6-1/2" 3-way car speakers. The magic is in the mid range and these have them and he doesn't have to go out to his car to figure out if the mix is perfect! Nice pick! Affordable too! Nah .. it's gotta be the MUM-8 💥
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Haha. The MUMs were definitively in my top 3!
@bohdan3239
11 ай бұрын
Are you kidding me ? With Ed,s ears anything is possible. I bet it will be the Bose 901.s
@bohdan3239
11 ай бұрын
I remember Ed returning a hearing aid and they told him that it was not faulty.
@checkitout611
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne 100% surprised by the choice but congratz on the new speakers! Enjoy!
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@marcmitchell7830
11 ай бұрын
thanks dude great output....after all the deliberation, it really would put the cherry on the cake if u did try the dutch & dutch.. especially now you've found your forever speaker.
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
I believe they’re still currently unavailable in the UK atm. Heard incredible things though. However, I am a convert to all analog speakers.
@marcmitchell7830
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne this is it :) like the difference between a Tesla or a Land Rover.. but that 8c coupled bass & the cardioid tops, open source DSP, such a tease, :) I need to know haha
@davidallanmusic
11 ай бұрын
Would love to own those speakers.
@andreasmichel9430
11 ай бұрын
Good choice. Very nice job they do at PSI.
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Thanks. And yeh, they’re really something special!
@thetheoryguy5544
7 ай бұрын
While I don't think I could ever afford the A23m's I got my eye on the A17M's need to start saving up lol.
@TheSakuraGumiLTD
11 ай бұрын
PSI... the B roll said it all 😂 These are my toss up between the MUM's at the moment. Natural sound is a very important thing for me. I want to know what what emotion I am adding more than anything. The present day production lads had reviewed them just before starting to make their own. I will be mostly likely going with the MUM's for Atmos... but may get these for my stereo setup. The Modern Day Production guy will have the setup for me to test these next to the MUM's. Great like series. gave me a lot more insight than any reviews I've heard
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Haha. Those who know PSI would have guessed it straight away but I wants to dangle carrots for everyone else 🤣 For me, choosing between the MUM8s and PSIs, came down to DSP Vs Analog, and the richness in the low end on the PSIs. The MUM8s are tighter in the low end, more akin to the PMCs but nothing came close to the lush and expansive top end on the PSIs.
@curighuws15
11 ай бұрын
Great set of videos! Out of interest what distance are you from these speakers in your listening position?
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Thanks. I'm about 1m-1.2m away from them. So they just about work at this distance
@richardpenrose1968
11 ай бұрын
I nearly swapped my KH120’s for a pair of secondhand PSI A17’s to use with an Eve TS108 sub. Unfortunately I couldn’t try and return if I didn’t like them which put me off. Im considering changing my Eve TS108 sub for the KH750 or sell both the Kh120 and Eve sub to get the KH150. If another secondhand pair of A17’s come up I might be more tempted this time.
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
The 150s are decent speakers but have the same sonic character I don’t like about the Neumann’s (which they all have). The sub is good and the room correction with the MA1 mic is very good! If you get the opportunity to buy PSIs again, you won’t regret buying them! They’re night and day better to me than the Neumann’s. Also, they’re a purchase for life. They’re like a classic Ferrari - they’ll always be amazing!
@richardpenrose1968
10 ай бұрын
@me-zx2rs Yes I have to say I still love my KH120’s. Having gone back to analysing my mixes, I’m not experiencing the low mid issue the Ed had. I find the KH120’s just let me hear my mix for what it is. However, I have been using them for over 12 years, so I am VERY used to them! I’m still weighing up whether to upgrade these to the KH150 or get the KH750 sub.
@richardpenrose1968
10 ай бұрын
@me-zx2rs Yes, having worked on some much higher end speakers before, I’m not feeling the need to upgrade from my Neumanns. I just need to decide on whether I will change my Eve sub for the KH750dsp or swap my KH120’s and Eve sub for a single pair of KH150’s!
@Tazmanian_Ninja
11 ай бұрын
💡 Anyone noticed that "MUM-8" phonetically sounds like "My Mate?" (British pronunciation: "mah mate") 😃 I think it's intentional.
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Knowing the PDP guys a little bit now, as I do, I’m pretty sure it’s 100% to do with mum jokes 🤣
@Tazmanian_Ninja
11 ай бұрын
Mum jokes? 😄 Is that a UK thing? Elaborate please 🙂
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Haha. Ok. Best I don’t elaborate in public. Very much distasteful British banter 🤣
@Lychegsye-nc6td
11 ай бұрын
is there a reason why u chose to have tweeter&mid drivers on the inner side (n subs on the outside)?
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Proximity to them in the listening position. I may try them the other way round but I’ll wait until Trinnov arrives because calibrating with the Neumann MA1 is a ballache.
@mosermichael4404
11 ай бұрын
hey you sure have a great monitor with the Psi m23! 😉 We Swiss already knew how to build good speakers!😉😂 I had Piega in the studio for a long time - they are the developers of the coaxial ribbon tweeter! sound incredible! and is built in Switzerland! is used more in hi fi - high end.. also works great in the sound studio.. very high resolution!😉😘 But I switched to the PMC 6.2 myself, for me it's the perfect sounding studio monitor.. sound excellent.. and for me the best low end I've ever heard!😱👌💥 ❤️and super mid and hi sound, fantastic stereo image and bass depth!😍 They should better stand on stands and have a listening distance of approx. 140 cm! Only then do they really sound excellent!😘 Otherwise it is better to choose another studio monitor!🙏The PMC 6.2 needs air to breathe!😂😉🙏 But what I'm thinking about increasing the psi on the Avaa C20 to get the bass modes in the room under control is an active bass mode remover. really brilliant technology! Check out the low end in the room and the reverberation time below 40 Hz!👊🔥💥 This part is really magical! But I'll definitely need 2 of them and that's about 5500 Swiss francs for 2 pieces!😢 but it does an excellent job!❤️💥🔥
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Hi there. I LOVED the PMC6-2s! Tightest low end but I found the midrange sounded shallow, especially compared to the PSIs. I’m intrigued to try the AVAA but I’m all spent up for now with Trinnov and subs on the way🤣
@mosermichael4404
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne OK dad, I don't have a feeling about the mid range with the PMC.. if they're calibrated correctly they sound great!😉 regarding avaa c20 It gives you a pressure to balance the energy in your room in the low end! the Avas has 2 membranes in it! and swallows the space fashions in the low end... The trinnov definitely won't do that for you!😉 I'm telling you that part is magic. And if, for example, you have the psi m23m and are thinking about getting a subwoofer, test the avaa first and you will no longer need a sub... I know that from tom wettstein, who has them in his mastering sound studio and has the small 2way 8" psi studio monitor and 2 avaa c20 and no sub.. and says he can't do without it anymore! but his acoustics are perfectly muted with plate vibrators at certain frequencies and the avaa are responsible for those below 40 hz. and he doesn't use trinnov😉
@united100
11 ай бұрын
why did you place the bass speaker outside and the tweeters inside?
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
This was how the PSI distributor suggested having them in my room. I will try them the other way round when Trinnov arrives (and the subs) but it’s such a ballache to room correct with the Neumann MA1 system I can’t be bothered moving now I have them in a sweet spot.
@zebastian21
12 күн бұрын
I see you're selling them on Reverb now, what's coming next?
@EdThorne
11 күн бұрын
👀🫣
@kylecostomiris7079
8 күн бұрын
@@EdThorne what led you to sell them?
@mixphantom0101
11 ай бұрын
Awesome monitors! Does PSI specify that the mid/tweeter array should be inside instead of outside? Have you tried both positions? Just eyeballing it looks as if your mix poz is outside the triangle.
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
The UK PSI distributor suggested I set them up like this in my room. I'll try the other way around when Trinnov arrives. I can't be bothered re-calibrating the room because it takes so long with the Neumann system.
@Truth565
11 ай бұрын
So are you currently calibrating your room with a Neumann sub or something?
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Yeh. It works pretty well. Much better than SoundID but Trinnov destroys them both.
@AudioRecordingStudio58
8 ай бұрын
Hi Ed, I like your channel and info-reporting. Congrat! Given that you have decided on PSI monitors for your studio, I am wondering if you have perhaps compared PSi with Dutch & DUutch and if so, what is the essential difference? I'm also curious why you didn't choose MUM8 monitors? Thank you for your prompt reply, best
@EdThorne
7 ай бұрын
Thank you. I couldn’t get hold of the D&Ds but heard good things. Jeremy at Recording Studio Loser has just done a video on them though. The PSIs have a rich low end, spacious top end, and depth I fell in love with when I heard them. The MUMs are great but I felt they weren’t quite for me.
@AudioRecordingStudio58
7 ай бұрын
Thank a lot. Best,M
@clintyoung9902
7 ай бұрын
@@EdThornehe actually recently returned the D&D’s
@EdThorne
7 ай бұрын
Yeh, I saw that. Shame.
@clintyoung9902
7 ай бұрын
Apparently he wasn’t a fan of onboard DSP either.
@AlexPettyMusic
6 ай бұрын
Love my Genelec 8351B's!
@fattohead
10 ай бұрын
ED Hi ! Your content is great ! Off topic, I see you have both IGS Rubberbands and WES Prometheus.. If you put fancy specs. like M/S and plug-in control etc. aside, which one of them would you prefer sonic stampwise? I want get a 500 Pultec style EQ mostly for mastering purpose and can't give a decision between two, so maybe you can put your 2cents. Thanks in advanve!🙏
@EdThorne
10 ай бұрын
Hi there. Thanks. I am literally planning a video comparing these two! The IGS is juicy and thick sounding where the Prometheus is more neutral and way more flexible. My IGS lives on my drum bus post compression and Wes Audio on my mix bus tickling some mid/side processing.
@LBJedi
9 ай бұрын
It’s been really cool and helpful watching you go through this process! Wondering if I can get your advice. I’m saving up for my first pair of monitors. Right now I mix on a pair of Neuman NDH30 headphones. Do you think I should buy something less expensive, like Kali IN-8s, just to start practicing on monitors, or should I wait until I can afford a forever pair like the Ex Machina GamidS?
@EdThorne
9 ай бұрын
Oooh, good question. I would suggest buying the best speakers you can afford now. Then in the future when your ears and mixing skills develop you can upgrade the next weakest link on the chain (speakers/interface (converters), etc). The Ex Machina’s are VERY good speakers!
@LBJedi
9 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne Thank you for your advice! Yeah, I think the Ex Machinas might be my “forever speakers”, but I’ll need to test a few pairs in my room like you did when I can afford it. Your “weakest link in the chain” comment made me realize something. I think tge first thing I’ll actually focus on is perfecting my room treatment. Thanks again Ed, and happy holidays!
@toneseldelaquimica646
11 ай бұрын
PSI AUDIO A25-M🥶
@MadelnMachines
9 күн бұрын
What is the woofer size on these? I saw they have specs but i'm not sure which correlates with how other manufacturers measure? Woofer ext. diam. 9.4 in W. diaphragm diam. 6.8 in
@ndavies8
11 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff! I watched the entire video! I own the travel size A14 M and it's performance is excellent despite the small size. PSI makes great sub. Do you plan on getting a sub?
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Thanks, Nehie. I have two A125s on order ;-)
@Malc180s
10 ай бұрын
I've been considering these for a while - Really enjoyed working on the A21's (which are basically this speaker san mid range driver). The ATC25/45 mid-forward sound (compared to the 21s) just wasn't as nice when I tested them, but in hindsight maybe they would've been a better bet... The 21's aren't hifi as such - it's all there - but there's a sweetness which might not be genuine..or they're just piss-easy to work on! Who knows! Did you listen to the 21's vs the 23's at any point?
@EdThorne
10 ай бұрын
I’ve heard the A17s/21s (can’t remember which model, but the two way). They’re great speakers but I definitely missed the three-way system of the 23s. They’re unreal!
@MR_Cellarpop
11 ай бұрын
Congrats to great speakers😀
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@djjohnnybravo
7 күн бұрын
So how to You feel about those monitors after a few months? :)
@jbaranowski1990
11 ай бұрын
It's nice that someone finally said that you can have cheaper speakers next to more expensive and those cheaper ones can sound better. I noticed that we live in a distorted world of marketing bs. Thousands of (previosuly paid mainly) sites and yt channels review the same gear and say that this is the best X or Y. But you buy it, use it and after couple of months compare with other, sometimes cheaper and not well known, solution and voila! You have better experience, better quality and better sound. But company didn't pay ytbers for "reviews" so they are not so known or even unknown in the mainstream. Same with mics. I love Neumann U87 but I know that some mics for a half price can be "very very close" to the original, so is it reasonable to spend couple of thousnads of bucks more for so small difference? For pros/purists/milionaires (lol) yes but for most of independent artists, hobbyist and "tight budget" guys and so on probably not. So yes. We must start to use our ears not only "opinions of talking heads on yt". Thanks for your work man!
@PreFusah
10 ай бұрын
Do you have any reccmendations in the sub £500 range?
@EdThorne
10 ай бұрын
@PreFusah Adam TV5s!
@albertorolon137
11 ай бұрын
About to buy ATC 45 or Pmc 2-6 . Don’t know which ones
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Both killer speakers! I’d say for guitar based music and recording - ATC. For dance/EDM/Hip-hop etc - PMC own it!
@Johnny-i9e
11 ай бұрын
Hey Ed, can you review the Rodecaster duo, specifically from a music production point of view? It’s quite expensive but I’m a streaming musician and I want to know if it will work well. I’ve only seen one channel touch on guitar with it, but I don’t know how well it integrates into OBS or my Daw software. It has really great mic preamps but I don’t know if it could replace my interface setup
@marleraudio
11 ай бұрын
Yeah i think the mum8's id love a set myself
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
They were definitely in my top three!
@nightnaj5278
4 ай бұрын
Hello Ed :) Have you tested these compared to the Focal Trio6's or Neumann Kh420 or even genelec 8361A? Cheers
@prodby_rale5218
11 ай бұрын
psi 23 :) but I'm really curious why and how they compare to Mum8. Mum8 on paper have crazy drivers but sure It's not all about drivers
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
The PSIs were definitely in the top three!
@natdenchfield8061
11 ай бұрын
My take is that the Hypex DSP is possibly a bit dated.. it uses a miniUSB socket, which IMO dates it to being several years old in design. Should Hypex update their range, the MUM-8 might get even better!
@SirDolittle
11 ай бұрын
The drivers are important (and PSI have very good in-house made drivers too) but how you integrate them with the crossover can make them shine or break them. PSI have a highly overengineered crossover, where there is a compensation circuit for everything. On the old website there was a step-response graph that showed they can actually reproduce a squarewave, which is normally impossible with a normal 4th order Crossover, especially an analog one.
@albertorolon137
11 ай бұрын
PSI AUDIO A25-M
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
I didn’t try the 25s but the 23s were definitely in my top 3!
@9-mastering
11 ай бұрын
So from your list wich is second and third?
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Good question. 1. PSI. 2. Ex Machina. 3. MUM8. I’d only managed to hear the Ex Machina’s after my MUM8 interview and I’d bought the PSIs though.
@9-mastering
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne so that means you heard the ex machines last but placed them second. Correct? I don’t know why but I feel like the mum8 and ex machina are not quite in the same ballpark. Would you say the ex machina are more true to the source in terms of clarity, sound and dynamic resolution? I am looking into a new pair of monitors for mastering purposes and although I would have loved to have the Dutch & duch 8c for that, they are to far out of reach right now. But from what I’ve heard from atc, barefoot, KsD to neumann and Kii three the 8c are the best. So after watching all your podcast it got me very intrigued how these new bad boys compete in an already saturated monitor market. And, don’t ask me why, but the mum8 are freaking nice. And for that price tag it’s really unbelievable. The question is do and can they deliver like the others for mastering? Thanks for your time and sorry for this long post.
@ayoubmisbah2190
10 ай бұрын
Can you do vedio comaretion betwin sonarwoks and trennov ❤🙏🏻
@EdThorne
9 ай бұрын
It’s coming. Probably January now.
@titua1288
8 ай бұрын
Which of the 2 sounds louder? PSI a23m vs Ex Machina Pulsar Which would be more suitable for Trap, Hip Hop or a more bass heavy genre?
@EdThorne
8 ай бұрын
They both crank well beyond what you’d be mixing at. The PSIs go down to 30Hz at -10dB. Pulsars are pretty much a steep roll off at 40.
@titua1288
8 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne Thank you!
@ayoubmisbah2190
10 ай бұрын
Do you use a sub with this monitors ?
@EdThorne
10 ай бұрын
I’ve just got a pair. Still getting used to them and Trinnov
@abboberg
10 ай бұрын
Were you able to compare these to the Adam Audio S3V?
@jamesmansion2572
8 ай бұрын
Interesting that none of these speakers seem to have any baffle step correction, let alone an adjustable one. Also I take issue with time alignment delay needing additional A/D and D/A. If the crossover is alreadty in the digital domain, delays are simply signal buffering.
@EdThorne
8 ай бұрын
That’s why I chose the all analog PSIs.
@jamesmansion2572
8 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne Sorry, that doesn't follow. Speakers that have flat frequency response when close to a wall have drooping bass if in free space, and vice versa. Proximity to desk and monitor will complicate things. I guess none of them allow a direct digital feed over USB from the DAW, an dcut out its D/A stage? Probably still get resampling in the crossover but it seems that ASRCs can have very good performance now. That you dislike DSP and then choose a room corrector is also a bit weird to me, but there we go. Still, your money and your choice. I had speakers with the ATC mids in nearly 40 years ago - they were ProAcs and I got them second hand. As far as I know, the guy I sold them to has given them to his son, who still uses them. I can't help feeling that technology has moved on though - interesting that the bass/mid crossover point have risen for these domes though, even into a range where vocal fundamentals are.
@MrMCZ13
7 ай бұрын
Why not psi a25m? They are also almost 10k
@EdThorne
7 ай бұрын
Space and size. I'm using them as nearfields atm.
@gaboonschoolofmusic9848
11 ай бұрын
I wish they can improve the look of these speakers....to match their incredible sound...very boring to look at them for any length of time
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Haha. They’re even worse in Maroon 🤣 I like them. They’re beefy and look like they mean business.
@richertz
11 ай бұрын
KZitem thumbnail award goes to......
@huberttorzewski
11 ай бұрын
Let's do a mix challenge. Me on 3x cheaper speakers and ITB vs you hybrid and on these PSIs :) The same song, the same files (can be your files), no drum samples or the same drum samples for both. Could be fun for a future video on your channel if you want to do it of course
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
This sounds like it comes from an aggressive place... This is also exactly what Paul and I do on the @WorkingAudioTools podcast. I’m not against the idea btw. DM me on Instagram and let’s chat
@huberttorzewski
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne nothing aggressive here, sorry if you felt offended - I'm not a native English speaker so I might say something that can sound weird for you without even realizing it. Sure, I'll write you on Instagram from my recording studio account
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
All good, Hubert 🙂🤘
@gigifara9312
11 ай бұрын
your speakers are setup incorrectly. the tweeter should be on the outside and the woofers should be on the inside.
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Not according to my PSI distributor… Also, it’s totally depends on listening position. This is the optimal set up for close seating.
@justlooking813
11 ай бұрын
As of 22:45 PST on Nov 3, 2023, it appears you have tipped your hand and shown what you chose in your "Read More" section drop down.
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
You have a keen eye to spot that amongst the affiliate links. Have deleted. Thanks.
@justlooking813
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne ;-) You're welcome! I'm interested to hear a deeper take on phase linearity in conjunction with the size of the sweet spot in your chosen unit and/or top three units. I'm curious why a fully concentric offering like the Genelec Ones was so easily unconsidered in this line-up. Having personally heard both your chosen unit and the Genelec's, I will agree your chosen unit does sound better. I was not able to fully explore the scope of the Genelec's physical coverage area or acoustic capacity, however, as my demo never deployed the SAM processing.
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
I find the Genelecs lispy and harsh in the top end. They’re very good but clinical speakers. The sweet spot on my new speakers is very broad. I have Trinnov on the way which basically makes the whole room a listening area 🤘
@justlooking813
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne I wish you the best. Your monitoring will be stunning. Which Trinnov do you intend to integrate?
@martijn_nl
11 ай бұрын
@@justlooking813 mentioning Trinnov Ed’s choice may be the PSI’s. So it’s either MUM-8 or PSI !! Looking forward to the reveal!
@jimjones1505
8 ай бұрын
Have u tried the ATC a25 s
@EdThorne
8 ай бұрын
Never heard of them 😉 kzitem.info/news/bejne/uGaQnImvnnOVp2k
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
Which Speakers Do YOU Think I Chose?
@martijn_nl
11 ай бұрын
99% sure it's the MUM8's beryllium. I am sure Mark, James and their cat have convinced you!
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
They were definitely in the top 3!
@albertorolon137
11 ай бұрын
PSI AUDIO A25-M
@martijn_nl
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne If i am right hopefully Mark will offer me a discount 😉
@natdenchfield8061
11 ай бұрын
I think you accidentally revealed by inference in the Pulsar additional vid! You gave your reason why you stuck with your winner here, instead of retruning them and moving to the Pulsars .. and the reason could only apply to one single model ..
@valium-fm7236
11 ай бұрын
I hope that price is for the pair 🤣
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
OMG, imagine if it wasn’t? 🤣 No chance. That price is for the pair, yes.
@valium-fm7236
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne 😂🤣
@HomeStudioWannabe
2 ай бұрын
The PSI website in the description says the price is £4,566.00. Isn’t that the price for one speaker? Or is it the price for the pair?
@valium-fm7236
2 ай бұрын
@@HomeStudioWannabe Ed says it’s for a pair. Imagine if that was for each one 😱
@EdThorne
2 ай бұрын
The obvious and simple solution to this is to Google it and shops will tell you both prices.
@epweiland
9 ай бұрын
You must not be married! :} LOL
@EdThorne
9 ай бұрын
Ha. And no kids. I’m fitting out the studio before all that happens.
@jontshyza
11 ай бұрын
I bet there Mums
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
They were in my final three, that's for sure!
@UncleBenjs
11 ай бұрын
They're *. And yep, I bet they're MUM's also
@natdenchfield8061
11 ай бұрын
It's not "they're" , it's "there be" - he's a pirate, oo-arr!
@UncleBenjs
11 ай бұрын
LOL@@natdenchfield8061
@johnwet6969
11 ай бұрын
Did you tried completely analog Focal Trio 11be or new Trio 6?
@EdThorne
11 ай бұрын
3:20
@johnwet6969
11 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne Don’t understand.
@dudemcgee256
11 ай бұрын
@@johnwet6969 He's saying that the Focal are significantly worse than the PSI speakers. Totally different price/product range. Focal are cheap speakers by comparison and by comparison they sound cheap. I'm sure they are fine speakers, but there is levels to everything.
@johnwet6969
11 ай бұрын
@@dudemcgee256 In which time he said that top Focal speakers are bad and cheap products? Maybe I’m deaf. Are you talking about 38kg Trios 11 be, with “cheap” beryllium tweeters developed for £160k Utopia towers? Trios with analog “G” class amplifiers instead of usual noisy D class amplifiers in many other expensive monitors? Did you see drivers from PSI?
@dudemcgee256
11 ай бұрын
@@johnwet6969 He said ANY speaker that costs 50% less doesn't compete at all. He nor I ever said that Focal speakers are cheap and bad. I'm sure they are fine, they just aren't as good as the PSI. They shouldn't be since the Focal costs 50% less. than the PSI. You are putting words in both of our mouths because you have an obvious bias towards Focal. You're completely ignorant on the subject while claiming all of these things about class d amps and tweeters. From PSI website: Feature Overview Tweeter unit handmade by PSI Audio Flat frequency response Optimized directivity by phase coherency Class-G low-temperature amplifier stage You're complaining that the PSI doesn't have a class G amp when it does. You have no idea what kind of tweeter the PSI has, yet the Focal is better. The plain simple truth is, there are levels to everything. The Focal Trio 11 is a great mid price monitor. The PSI is a much better and higher priced product in a completely different category and is better in every conceivable way. What is funny to me is you're asking Ed what he tried and he told you. And for some reason you aren't satisfied with that so you wanna argue. If you disagree then that's fine. Use the Focals and be happy in your life.
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