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@FirstDan2000
3 жыл бұрын
The clear winner is the cooling gel. I'll get some of that.
@havaden96
3 жыл бұрын
I used to work in a small workshop for building different electrical cabinets. We used a hydraulic punch that was a real hazzle to work with but made much cleaner and much more accurate holes. Also you can punch square holes or other shapes for certain uses like a vent. I could see the battery driven punch very useful in that case, hole saws are also awfully messy if you have to drill 20 holes in the bottom of a cabinet. Sharp burrs everywhere and you risk scratching the paint if a single one of those burrs are left on the bench. Now say you got to build 20 of theese and you do all the drilling at once. For the average electrician? Obviously the punch would be overkill, but id get it in notime for the workshop.
@Cablesmith
3 жыл бұрын
I think the punch is way beyond the needs for most electricians, more suited to manufacture of panels and the likes.
@kangtheconqueror
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@anne_frank_
3 жыл бұрын
It's a tool I'd love to use for just that but I can't find a 22mm option, which is what's used on 90% of parts, especially schneider push buttons and pilot lights.
@efixx
3 жыл бұрын
You can get an M22 hole punch for this, but push buttons are actually 22.5mm (PG16) - www.amazon.co.uk/Exact-30506-22-5mm-Screw-Hole-Punch/dp/B00BY2QX6S We'll explore if we can use non-wilwonky punches. It would also be good to cut square holes for 96x96 instruments in panels etc.
@anne_frank_
3 жыл бұрын
@@efixx Sweet, thanks for the reply!
@filipe.skunk8
3 жыл бұрын
@@efixx Rittal does a 92x92mm square punch.. costs £1000 🤯
@tommymack3210
3 жыл бұрын
What is the point of the milwaukee tool when you need to make a 20mm hole to make a 32mm hole?
@imtruegeordiesballscratche9261
3 жыл бұрын
It’s to stop the burr that your just gonna cover with a gland or grommet anyway it’s basically a 12hundred pound file
@geneva760
3 жыл бұрын
Cleaner end hole would be one major difference.
@hk.l4886
3 жыл бұрын
I can’t ever seeing myself needing the punch out tool. Holesaws is where it is.
@StorminBriski
3 жыл бұрын
I think the hole punch makes a neat job. I’ve always used hole saws and a de-burring tool. I think the punch may be better for stainless steel as this is a pain to hole saw through. Can’t see me ever paying for the punch though.
@pauljones908
3 жыл бұрын
Got the punch and it makes short work for enlarging gland holes or installing any glands from 32mm - 75mm. Great on stainless to 😁👍
@trrbocknyader
2 жыл бұрын
Knock outs are meant for bigger stuff like 1.5" and up , Use a carbide hole cutter for the initial drilling and it's much faster.
@thattoolguy9432
3 жыл бұрын
Holesaws and a metalworkers deburring tool all day every day for glanding .. punches for panel work, just get individual punches and a socket on the end of a impact driver,. works a treat and its a tool most of us have already got .As you probably know from your recent trip to penn elcom.. most patch bay holes are either 24mm or 31mm so that makes the milwonky defunkt .. Gaz for the win on this one
@mrclive5
3 жыл бұрын
Nice idea, but you're then carrying two tools to do one job. Or just stick with hole saws? The punch would be perfect for areas that're sensitive to vibration, debris etc.
@boblewis5558
3 жыл бұрын
You still have to drill a pilot hole though, so still vibration and debris. It's just the final finish is better and IMO easier to deburr with a Noga.
@serhioromano
2 жыл бұрын
I cannot get it, why did you not include time to predrill a hole for punch down? He was punching using premade holes. Remember in order to punch you still have to drill a hole first.
@iggifer
3 жыл бұрын
Armeg Acceler8 or other sheet steel holesaws are going win this race hands down. I didn't understand the fuss until I used them. Faster than standard hole saws and the hole is clean and crisp every time. I haven't used a traditional holesaw to drill anything smaller than a 40mm since I bought them
@efixx
3 жыл бұрын
We’ll check them out
@dennisphoenix1
3 жыл бұрын
I have the 20 and 25mm armeg hole saws and they are great , if they made 32 , 40 and 50mm in the same style it would be great
@iggifer
3 жыл бұрын
@@dennisphoenix1 They do some of those sizes. I have 32,38 & 40. Not sure if they go any bigger than that though
@dennisphoenix1
3 жыл бұрын
@@iggifer the 40mm would be great for tail glands
@keanMechanic
3 жыл бұрын
There’s is a another alternative hole punch method, QMax cutters and a impact gun.
@brianwood5220
3 жыл бұрын
Gary, that's a hole in one at a very reasonable price. As for Gordon, it's a bit like knitting drill one, stamp one.
@efixx
3 жыл бұрын
But I won the REVIEW🤣… 🤦🏻♂️…
@allysonhanks7367
3 жыл бұрын
Hello Brian, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.
@haldo691
3 жыл бұрын
Impact holesaws are the quickest and don't leave toobad a finish before deburing
@boblewis5558
3 жыл бұрын
Punch every time if possible. I have a set of Qmax cutters from 45 plus years ago
@allysonhanks7367
3 жыл бұрын
Hello Bob, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.
@kenbrown2808
3 жыл бұрын
I use a P&R cutter to make my pilot holes; which I keep in my hole punch case, and I really mainly bought it for the larger punches. but it makes nice clean holes, I don't break pilot bits, and I don't spew as many hot shavings about. for me, the punch kit was well worth the price.
@ElectricianTV
3 жыл бұрын
The Mandrex Hole saw is a great idea but the arbour is too big. They are sold in my wholesalers but they look far to big and Obscure your view whilst drilling. ANd limit the place you can fit the drill. What your option on that?
@efixx
3 жыл бұрын
You can use the Mandrex adaptors with your existing hole saws -eg convert a Starret to use with the Mandrex arbour. So you can always swap back if you are tight for room.
@drpantastic1969
3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the first reviews of battery drills and drills in general as this simple device is a game changer
@michealplater9007
3 жыл бұрын
Where possible I driil from both side of the hole using a hole saw it gives a much cleaner cut
@muzikman2008
3 жыл бұрын
What we really need is a hand held auto laser cutter, type in the hole size, material type & thickness, line a laser dot up with the centre, pull the trigger and hey presto.. no lubricant, clean hole, less mess and waste.who will be first? lol. Hole punches are nicer finishes, but time consuming. Iv'e cut thousands of holes over the years. Stainless, steel, brass, wood, and the good all rounder seems to be the basic hole saw.😎👍
@sidwainhouse
3 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my QMax cutters and a ratchet.
@boblewis5558
3 жыл бұрын
Use a decent battery drill on high torque ... Works great on ali!
@alinili5569
3 жыл бұрын
I won the review I like that punch hole it’s way beyond day to day works Even replace the hole saw regularly
@anelectrician
3 жыл бұрын
I can't see myself moving away from the Bosch click hole cutter.
@KnugenMooMoo
3 жыл бұрын
What if say the trunking fitted to the wall and you can't get the milwaukee punch backing in? You'll have to get the holesaw out
@acespark1
3 жыл бұрын
You would have to sell a body part to buy the milwaukee force logic hole punch
@johnxenofontos1058
3 жыл бұрын
What are hole punch sizes comes in the kit.
@efixx
3 жыл бұрын
M16,20,25,32,40
@johnxenofontos1058
3 жыл бұрын
@@efixx Thank you.
@mattylad8035
3 жыл бұрын
Holesaws are very rough, a punched hole is far better - however only when it's cost is not exhorbitant.
@paultipton743
3 жыл бұрын
The real star of the show was the cooling gel
@efixx
3 жыл бұрын
The gel is cool 😎
@JimWhitaker
3 жыл бұрын
So - A Q-Max punch with an impact driver?
@gottliebdee263
5 ай бұрын
It's funny watching these guys using cutting fluid. I regularly work on construction sites and I have NEVER, EVER seen anybody is this. Not even once., Now, full disclosure for the most part I didn't either, but I do now.
@geneva760
3 жыл бұрын
A cleaner initial hole would be one major difference ('WINNER' for many users) - although the actual application could probably be a decider as well. And keeping a spinning hole saw blade out of the hands of staff can sometimes be an additional safety bonus. A mate has a near crippled hand from a bit of 'brain fade' whilst using a hole saw - it instantly cut the muscle near clean off his hand when he hit the trigger on the cordless drill with a hole saw blade in it = crippled hand (I think many of us are also a bit complacent when it comes to a battery powered tool - for some reason they often seem less dangerous - sort of 'toy like' - other than no risk of electrocution for m a battery powered tool - they can be just as dangerous as a 240V plugged in version - if not more when it comes to other injuries). Safety can sometimes be the 'WINNER'. Yes - we all know that you are not meant to have your hand near a spinning hole saw blades - but we also know that you are not meant to do all sorts of dangerous things (and as at 4:43 am today - if I was standing outside my place - someone doing something they were not meant to be doing - would have turned me into mince meat - instead he just demolished a steel pylon wall and portico pillar - luckily the steel structures stopped the vehicle from ending up in the bedrooms - thankfully nobody was injured) - but still - people do things that end up in injury or death. Have a safe and nice day all - CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.
@dae8864
3 жыл бұрын
You allways need a grommet/egdebanding to protect your wires, and in the end yourself.
@shaneporter4958
3 жыл бұрын
I criticised this product on FB and the Americans weren't happy. Turns out they think holesaws in panel boards are a major no no.
@hamburbers
3 жыл бұрын
Quick connect holesaw systems are great until you try to use them for anything where the arbor needs to also pass through the whole for example drilling through a wall with an extension. This mandrex is a one trick pony as much as the hole punch is. If that's the comparison, I've already got an electrician set of carbide hole cutters that work phenomenally.
@davewesley5048
3 жыл бұрын
I would normally use a hole saw good price and fair job or a qmax cutter with impact driver neither take up too much room and are light
@scott4shell
3 жыл бұрын
It’s all about the price point what is the Milwaukee retailing at
@efixx
3 жыл бұрын
Around £1000
@gregmcallister4862
Жыл бұрын
Hole saw kit for me, cooling gel , slow speed…come on!!!😂😂😂
@9plusinstalaciones
3 жыл бұрын
Did you go back in again Gaz?
@jarodneedham7326
2 жыл бұрын
Modern hole cutters are designed for high speed, high pressure. You actually do yourself a disservice by going slower in mild steel.
@blobstrom
3 жыл бұрын
Because you have to drill a hole to use the hole punch, you might as well use a hole saw to start with
@hacheyg
2 ай бұрын
Carbide holesaw is the way to go
@THECRYPTOKAAKH
3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@thetruth6693
3 жыл бұрын
If Gary was another 5 mins cleaning those holes Gordon then he still would've won 😝
@efixx
3 жыл бұрын
100% GAZ WON 🙌🏻
@efixx
3 жыл бұрын
But Gaz never cleans 🧼 up
@thetruth6693
3 жыл бұрын
😂😝
@Dog-whisperer7494
3 жыл бұрын
Gordons Millwonky,seven components to put together to make a hole then take apart to clean out the bits? Gaz three components ,a drill bit a hole saw and a combidrill to make a hole . I have made my choice
@martinjp1
3 жыл бұрын
No Sparks going to buy the Milwuakee most will just use a cheap Screwfix or Toolstation holesaw set jobbie then de-burr.
@darylsavage119
3 жыл бұрын
Depends what you do. Done lots of work on live 600a busbar chambers where you certainly pucker when using a holesaw due to the sparks. The Milwaukee is defo a better tool in that situation, but then hell I'm paying for one. The force logic cable cutter and crimper tho I may look into
@dimitrakisaimegia3852
3 жыл бұрын
Keep the drill at low speed.
@niceguy235uk1
3 жыл бұрын
Much prefer the Armeg Acceler8% hole saws
@stevoc9930
3 жыл бұрын
I must say I'm a man who loves a good hole.
@cuezed
3 жыл бұрын
Holesaw is better. The hole punch seems overkill kit for electricians
@posei3960
3 жыл бұрын
So the punch isn't as accurate? , if it was then surely ALL the punched out slugs would resemble washers and NOT C shaped gobbitts.? Or off-centre washers?
@somedude5174
3 жыл бұрын
You have to lay out big crosshairs on the trough then line up the red lines on the punch with them
@andrewtadd4373
3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the punch tool use a slug breaker which cuts the slug in half as you are punching the hole out, makes it a hell of a lot easier to remove the slug especially on the smaller holes.
@kenbrown2808
3 жыл бұрын
the punch is designed to split the slug in half so it doesn't wedge in the die. the larger punches will fold the slug. that red stripe on the die is so you can draw a crosshair on your material and then line the die up on the crosshair, even if your pilot bit wanders a bit on your starter hole.
@bighorse10048
3 жыл бұрын
All that was going though my mind watching you do this was you kids don't know your born. when i started back in the 1960s it was with a Standly hand drill and hole Exnox cutter. Great fun not.
@Dog-whisperer7494
3 жыл бұрын
Great video guy’s But please send that millwonky back to the Americans and demand refund. Sorry but you just can’t beet the good old hole saw. Gaz you have just proved that 👍❤️⚡️
@efixx
3 жыл бұрын
GO GAZ GO 🏴
@kenbrown2808
3 жыл бұрын
yeah, I thought that about 30 holesaws ago. but you can only cut 3 or 4 stainless steel cans with a holesaw before it loses its edge. and the manufacturer stopped sending the cans with knockouts.
@alinili5569
3 жыл бұрын
I m sure Gary your hole saw or pilot drill bit it’s not sharp. We do it every day and don’t take that long
@oliverburroughs1816
3 жыл бұрын
Hello
@Dog-whisperer7494
3 жыл бұрын
That’s the perfect tool for those who like having there tools nicked or there vans broken into Then having a view day’s off work wile you wait for the insurance company to pay out . Good idea 👍 Great video guy’s as always . Nice tool though despite my negative comment just can’t understand why you would spend a load of money for something that is likely to get nicked . I think someone doesn’t like this comment .
@12000gp
3 жыл бұрын
You don’t have any power tools then?
@Dog-whisperer7494
3 жыл бұрын
@@12000gp no , some viewing scumbag nicked them all 😂
@kenbrown2808
3 жыл бұрын
they can't run as fast with it as they can with a hole saw.
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