Oops I thought you were mostly top first but that you knew and used a little l4e
@TERRORSPEED
4 жыл бұрын
John Gaynor method neutral but only does top first 99.9% of the time
@Takashx7
3 жыл бұрын
uau iam your faz tymon
@ooiyi8087
3 жыл бұрын
Wot is method neutral bruh
@patolol3091
2 жыл бұрын
@@ooiyi8087 can do any method
@grantjoslyn3638
3 жыл бұрын
This video is gold. I thought all tutorials were from 2012
@doubleu.d
4 жыл бұрын
Finally, was searching so long for a video, that explains more steps, to improve my times with the keyhole method. Thanks a lot!
@thephysicistcuber175
4 жыл бұрын
You don't know how relieved I feel after knowing that there's still hope. There's still hope for humanity to defeat the dark side of pyraminx. Also known as V-first.
@TERRORSPEED
4 жыл бұрын
Is this a top first tutorial in 2019?!!?!?!?!?!
@Usha_Prasanna
3 жыл бұрын
I tried to learn Intuitive L4E but it is too tough for me, I think keyhole might be a good method for me to learn. I also think L3E recognition is easier in top first methods than V first methods. Thank you so much for this tutorial John 😀
@tygon1606
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This will definitely help me improve. I haven't found many tutorials on top first so this is great.
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! My goal is to fill the gap of top first knowledge on KZitem. More coming soon😁
@thephysicistcuber175
4 жыл бұрын
One more thing (sorry for posting multiple separate comments, but I think people should see this), what Nutella algs should be avoided? Also I think you should a video in which you show the execution of all algs (if you haven't thought of it already).
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
I avoid using the 2 centers in, 2 centers out, and the 3 center cases that aren’t CW or CCW. One of my next videos will be about turning in top first, so execution of algs will probably be in there. Don’t worry about the quantity of comments, I appreciate the feedback😀
@noemiquaglia4563
3 жыл бұрын
This is actually a great tutorial !! Thank you so much !!!
@amateurapple
4 жыл бұрын
I am qualified to rate this tutorial 11/10 because I'm sub 7 global like 7 weeks now
@BereczkiBruno_official
4 жыл бұрын
pretty good video :D its funny I still know these methods :DD but I am jsut watching you guys making new records :D i am too old for pyra now.
@CsengoBalint
4 жыл бұрын
Azért még szoktál kicsit gyakorolni pyrát? :D
@BereczkiBruno_official
4 жыл бұрын
Csengő Bálint ritkan kirakom, kb 2-3szor egy nap max de meg mennek a harmas kettes idok
@CsengoBalint
4 жыл бұрын
@@BereczkiBruno_official Na az jó :) nekem is a kedvencem a pyra. Remélem találkozunk egyszer majd versenyen :D
@csabafarkas_
3 жыл бұрын
@@CsengoBalint látom itt is összegyűlnek a magyar pyrásokxd
@adamkedziorski4561
4 жыл бұрын
Nice job ★
@vimalabisen9223
4 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@spacepotat0763
Жыл бұрын
Is it worth it trying to stick to only one of these methods or just learning them all is the way to go?
@ThePuzzleTurner
4 жыл бұрын
Nice video this is exactly what I was looking for
@jeeperslol8010
4 жыл бұрын
Is that a cubicle mr m? The tips from my cubicle mr m just fall of al the time. Btw do you think I should learn Top first if I am averaging 3.0 right now?My goal is to get top 10 er
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have that issue too, if you’re satisfied with the tensions you can glue them down. I used this liquid superglue stuff that worked great. Also, yes I would recommend learning top first sooner rather than later, especially if you’re going for sub-2.4.
@fernandoagarciacia-gv3cl
Жыл бұрын
Dude i learned full wo in 1 minute
@jonathantilahun9694
4 жыл бұрын
I quit v first I’m switching to top first
@jandellko
4 жыл бұрын
same
@lukevanlaningham194
4 жыл бұрын
same
@cubingdoctor178
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@csabafarkas_
3 жыл бұрын
Nope switching to neutral
@thephysicistcuber175
4 жыл бұрын
BTW I personally think Oka should be learnt before keyhole. The two methods are very similar and they can get you into intuitive solves early on. Also you forgot the Oka algs where both pieces are stuck in the top
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
Oops yeah, forgot to include that. Generally I just avoid doing those cases because the fingertricks are a bit weird
@thephysicistcuber175
4 жыл бұрын
@@johngaynor2181 L R' L' U' R' and mirror are actually ok. The other one not so much
@heni3624
4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried v first and if so why do you prefer top first (im v first and might switch)
@ThibaudOU
4 жыл бұрын
Ayyyy
@StianNystad
4 жыл бұрын
nice bro
@valeriykurbatov5307
4 жыл бұрын
Do you think it makes sense to relearn from a wrist turning style?
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
I think a combination of wrist turning and flick turning is best. For keyhole wrist turning works nicely but for the rest of the methods it can be substituted with B moves. My next video will explain turning styles and stuff like that.
@gelcubes3860
4 жыл бұрын
So since I wanna start getting into pyra I learn keyhole first? (I already know beginners method)
@bencenagy5459
2 жыл бұрын
Or intuitive l4e if you wanna go v first
@charlieharrison
4 жыл бұрын
Here from Tymon
@davenx3163
4 жыл бұрын
do you think method neutrality is necessary to become sub 3?
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
You can definitely get sub 3 using just top first or v first. However, if you’re looking beyond that, learning both methods will get you further.
@davenx3163
4 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks man, how much I'm going to need to become sub 4 with L4E as well?
@boblarry6805
4 жыл бұрын
What method do you use?
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
I use every method shown in this video
@boblarry6805
4 жыл бұрын
@@johngaynor2181 THanks
@RexXXXXXXXXL
4 жыл бұрын
You didn't show all the nutella cases for 2C
@ganavisankventrapragada3969
4 жыл бұрын
tetrahedron?
@cubesomething9048
4 жыл бұрын
its like a 3-sided pyramix+ the foundation
@toasty7408
4 жыл бұрын
Is top first any better then v first?
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
I will make a video on this soon
@jaspermurray1553
4 жыл бұрын
If I'm already sub 3 with L4e, is it worth it to try to learn this as well?
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
It depends on how fast you want to get. If you’re sub 3 with l4e and satisfied with that, don’t worry about top first stuff. If you want to get faster, I would recommend learning top first early on because down the road method neutrality is ideal.
@jaspermurray1553
4 жыл бұрын
@@johngaynor2181 goal is WR10
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
In that case, I would learn top first sooner rather than later.
@jaspermurray1553
4 жыл бұрын
@@johngaynor2181 ok thanks
@aznbn88
2 жыл бұрын
@@jaspermurray1553 Damn bro… now you’re WR1 that’s actually insane
@xavierye4116
3 жыл бұрын
nutella? count me in
@SmellMaster
4 жыл бұрын
Yay top first epic
@suryaprakash6637
4 жыл бұрын
should we learn v first before top first ??
@arjuntheboss4218
4 жыл бұрын
Which Pyraminx do you use
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
Mr. M
@arjuntheboss4218
4 жыл бұрын
Thx
@Kura676
4 жыл бұрын
Dw and Dw' algs for 1 flip is good?
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
They can be, it's more of a preference thing. I haven't been able to determine whether or not flick fingertricks would be faster.
@ogza945
4 жыл бұрын
What's your pyraminx?
@ViswathKumaraa
4 жыл бұрын
Cubicle Mr.M pyraminx
@OfficialMoreBeta
4 жыл бұрын
What major tips do you have to get sub 5 average with keyhole? because I didn't even think that was possible but you sound like you know what your talking about.
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
To get sub 5, I would recommend doing a lot of practice (which will get you more comfortable with the method and develop tps/fingertricks). You can also do untimed solves to work on being as efficient as possible without worrying about times.
@nacenacenace
4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why you shouldn't main WO but you say you should main 1 flip. What makes WO so bad compared to 1 flip?
@penem7632
2 жыл бұрын
It's much common to get 1 flip rather than wo, plus wo algorithms are longer that 1 flipm
@zacharymillercubing
4 жыл бұрын
V first was mega dumb for me so i'm gonna learn Keyhole and grind for my next comp :)
@MaxJensenSUBSRIBE
2 жыл бұрын
One look tutorial
@TERRORSPEED
4 жыл бұрын
You are definitely not qualified
@michaelnielsen3551
4 жыл бұрын
minty?
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t consider minty a method
@sumiranmaiskar
4 жыл бұрын
I predict WR in 2020
@JPDcuber
2 жыл бұрын
Ah, if only you knew in 2019 what the future would hold...😂😥
@thephysicistcuber175
4 жыл бұрын
Are dank Dw moves out of fashion now?
@johngaynor2181
4 жыл бұрын
My next video is gonna be about turning stuff so I’ll be sure to talk about wide moves. Long story short, wide moves are still good.
@thephysicistcuber175
4 жыл бұрын
@@johngaynor2181 ok cool. It's still true that I need to change my turning style though.
@parkertrager4849
4 жыл бұрын
The Physicist Cuber I prefer the Dw algs and use them a lot
@thephysicistcuber175
4 жыл бұрын
@@parkertrager4849 That's what I do too
@ФёдорДолгопольский
4 жыл бұрын
You forgot 2 cases in nutella metod
@MaxJensenSUBSRIBE
2 жыл бұрын
420th like :)
@veronicacervellin3349
Жыл бұрын
Easy
@elmerrodas1279
2 жыл бұрын
NOe
@dhagetita6924
4 жыл бұрын
Yo
@nacenacenace
4 жыл бұрын
I struggle to believe anyone can get 5 secs with keyhole it just doesn't make sense
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