Blimey they had conviction back then, unlike today's bunch of pre rehearsed characterless jokers.
@HenryMcGuinnessGuitar
7 жыл бұрын
Not sure Heseltine, Prescott & Archer had much in the way of convictions. John Smith I couldn't stand, Cecil Parkinson was a bit revolting. But the hotly contested prize for Most Odious Prick on this video goes, I think, to John Prescott: a thug, a liar & a hypocrite, relentlessly lowering the tone wherever he went.
@HamptonDoubledayJr
5 ай бұрын
No sweeping generalisations there, then.
@terrythomas1713
3 жыл бұрын
Makes you realise (as much as I despised most of these politicians) how much our current crop of politicians are lightweights..
@Wattingers
9 жыл бұрын
The biggest cheer was when Piers Morgan got asked if he'd leave! That was back in 2002 - Nothing changes, does it?
@cBearTV-
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you for the most part, but right now he's speaking up most morning for struggling NHS workers & other essential workers who haven't got the vital resources they need to save lives, so for the moment my anti piers sentiment has rightly been toned right down.
@benusmaximus3601
4 жыл бұрын
He's got better since...
@arleygomez465
3 жыл бұрын
@@cBearTV- the plight of NHS workers is an easy tool to use to beat the government over the head with, and it gives Piers the chance to hear his own voice.
@paulglazzard9724
3 жыл бұрын
It really doesn't change!
@SoaringNato
3 жыл бұрын
Well eventually....he did!!
@simondal9151
7 жыл бұрын
Back then they had conviction, Now only Convictions.
@cBearTV-
4 жыл бұрын
Oooh what a burn! ♨️ 🤣
@Nounismisation
9 жыл бұрын
I remember watching Hislop destroy Archer live. It was spellbinding. I very quickly found the edge of my seat. I remember thinking something along the lines of, "don't go head to head with Hislop, and no, an evil stare isn't going to cut it". It's almost a 'where were you when...' moment for me.
@endrightwinglunacy
7 жыл бұрын
I didn't agree with John Smith on many issues, but I still think he would have made a first class PM and served with honour.
@robertclive7546
6 жыл бұрын
Tony benn. Met him . A kind guy. RIP
@OldglenSea-cw4ps
5 жыл бұрын
Yet He fiddled his taxes after death, preparing to avoid any tax payment on his fortune!
@grahampearson2610
5 жыл бұрын
I met him once too, just before going on stage for a lecture, still took the time to speak with me. Absolute gentleman, socialist hero.
@paulrimmer2853
4 жыл бұрын
Tony left £6m in his will..to his near family. Wot about the poor?
@al.b7520
4 жыл бұрын
@@paulrimmer2853 That was legitimate tax planning
@tomben6180
3 жыл бұрын
@@al.b7520 And Benn was a legitimate hypocrite.
@BrionyDavid
6 жыл бұрын
What a good idea for a video. I never thought about looking back over some of the old episodes before. I think I prefer the exchanges from then to the rather weak, bland and celebrity sprinkled editions we have now
@markdaniels2200
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely. Just look at the audiences, you can see how much has changed in a short time since the 1990’s.. The BBC was also not biased back then….
@lawrence142002
2 жыл бұрын
Prescott and Heseltine was one that had the potential to actually end up in a fistfight. That would've been a hell of a show.
@MosesDeLaRoses
Жыл бұрын
As much as I despise John Prescott, I can't think of anything funnier than him knocking out the traitor Heseltine
@BossySwan
8 ай бұрын
Prezzeltine
@petermills542
5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant compilation, thanks ! Difficult to pick a favourite, though being reminded of the ghastly Cecil Parkinson's downfall was very enjoyable! As Prescot gleefully repeated "No wonder you got sacked !! " -John Smith defending himself against the formidable Baroness Seear was good too " Your not in the House of Lords now " !
@alistairbartlett6569
Жыл бұрын
Prescott ( that's TWO T's!!😂 ) was a pompous git.
@borderlord
6 жыл бұрын
Serious political heavyweights on Question Time back then....with the exception of Archer.....the show is a Shadow of itself these days!
@marklloyd3536
6 жыл бұрын
Quite agree
@markhughes8314
6 жыл бұрын
Good to see someone put Starkey in his place though, even though I like the guy.
@MagNEt1Cc
6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, not the shows fault but fault is on politicians which now rather stick to scripts.
@gmonkey6523
6 жыл бұрын
Correct. Question time is a joke now. The level of debate is shocking.
@johnboy14
5 жыл бұрын
@@gmonkey6523 i wouldnt call this debate. Benns comment while correct was a personal insult. We never see real debate anymore. Everyones too damn emotional, fact and reason have been replaced my scare mongering and insulting the other persons character. Its poision.
@mutinyonthekitkat
4 жыл бұрын
I remember one where a woman in the audience's surname was Blackadder. "A question from Mrs Blackadder" and the audience broke out laughing. She took offence and told them off about it. It was a funny moment.
@sjnm4944
8 жыл бұрын
Question Time has been neutered.
@winstonbrown1516
2 ай бұрын
Well.., quite literally, mate!
@paulgavin3603
6 жыл бұрын
Two Jags Prescott working himself up to a stage=managed strop.
@keithwhittam443
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent compilation, and dramatic music. Well done I hope there’s a sequel.
@RonWylie-gk5lc
6 жыл бұрын
The wonderful Tony Benn, and great to see John again, Great Labour men we don't see the like of very often today until My Corbyn
@buildersandinteriorexperts
6 жыл бұрын
The BBC always show us, two Liars, then asks us which one is telling the truth.
@sardanaphalus
9 жыл бұрын
David Starkey with moustache... now there's a blast from the past. Wonder if he and Peter Mandelson ever exchanged notes (on moustaching, I mean)... PS Morricone music = nice one. "Los Mustachios"... or perhaps, more naughtily, "Los Bigotes"...
@BossySwan
8 ай бұрын
Nice play on words there
@dloverise
8 жыл бұрын
Austerity is class warfare.
@bighands69
8 жыл бұрын
No Austerity is called balancing the books. Get a reality check.
@dloverise
8 жыл бұрын
bighands69 'No austerity', or 'no, austerity'? Get an education.
@ultrahipster69
8 жыл бұрын
Enough of the empty Tory rhetoric please. The reason that there was a recession to begin with in 2008 was because the neo-liberal trend that has risen since the 80s led to the capitalist class causing a recession due to lax regulation on the lending industry. So it is class warfare because it amounts to punishing the worst off in society for the crimes of the most well of.
@xRsAtx
8 жыл бұрын
osborne is that you
@mattlamb1566
7 жыл бұрын
Which hasn;t happened after seven years of austerity.
@peterh1353
8 жыл бұрын
This is why KZitem is the best thing ever invented. Just amazing clips. Speaking about Heseltine - getting hold of the two pound a hour was the hard bit....
@Arctic_Fox_NFFC
7 жыл бұрын
This is well put together. Thanks.
@glennprince3
9 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant. Thanks!
@fantablackcurrant9018
5 жыл бұрын
Tony benn a ledge
@DinnenG
Жыл бұрын
If you make more of these, from old QT episodes I will absolutely subscribe
@ConnorWhoOfficial
8 жыл бұрын
Go on Tony!
@lsobrien
9 жыл бұрын
Baroness Seear. Superb.
@bieituns
9 жыл бұрын
+Luke O'Brien Yes, if only she was here today to say the same thing to Jeremy Corbyn.
@CarlBewley
9 жыл бұрын
+efc toffee That doesn't make any sense...Corbyn is criticised for being unelectable because he DOESNT change his views that he's held since he was in parliament since 1984. He's unlikely to change them now either so ...what's your actual point?
@bieituns
9 жыл бұрын
+Carl Bewley That is clearly a myth built on propaganda spin and PR. Labour are playing the same games and history is repeating itself, Corbyn believes or says he believes in what he thinks is popular or what will get him votes, he has no principles. Corbyn has changed his mind on his view on Britains membership of the EU, he has changed his mind on Britains membership on Nato he has backed tracked on the issue of trident, he has changed his views on the running of the economy, on George Osborne's fiscal charter. The man is either weak or he is a fraud, either way he is not fit to be Prime Minister.
@CarlBewley
9 жыл бұрын
Talk about spin. That is absolute nonsense. Stop reading the Tory Press and do your own research. You'll see he's always been anti war, anti monarchy and a supporter of socialism and the welfare state. 'looking for the popular vote'??? Really? Is that why he's trying so hard to conform by rejecting the pomp and ceremony to focus on his policies rather than attend the privy council? Why he didn't sing an anthem he doesn't believe in? All this is trite garbage that isn't important but it's what make the news. Please don't be so blinkered in challenging a man whose history you clearly know nothing of and repeat your daily mail and telegraph dribble at me. Look for yourself, beyond your usual blue tinted spectacles and provide evidence of anything you have said. You're against the man on principle, but you should open your eyes. 8.95 claimed on expenses last year by Corbyn, rejecting his second home allowance, a man who does not use his position for personal gain and yet you try and discredit him for backtracking? 160 times he voted against his own party when it was Tory Lite. Seriously, don't talk such crap.
@bieituns
9 жыл бұрын
+Carl Bewley I read and listen to all the press not just Tory propaganda, I think for myself. I am a UKIP supporter and I was happy to begin with to hear corbyn would be leading the Labour party as I am a big Tony Benn fan and Corbyn had supposedly been on the same wavelength as Benn as regards the EU etc, but his principles were cast aside the moment he won the leadership. I don't give a toss if he doesn't sing the national anthem, I don't sing it myself, what I do care about is when he says one thing which he has believed in for 30 years and then does the other when he gets into power. The man is either weak or a fraud, which ever it is he has shown himself not to be Prime Minister material.
@floridagolf2010
9 жыл бұрын
Top quality political banter
@johnnydancer4695
5 жыл бұрын
The Independent Group members should listen to the great Tony Benn with regards to staying loyal to their party.
@floppybollox3
7 жыл бұрын
Back in the days when politics actually meant something. Not the one-dimensional, unprincipled, scripted spin artists that pass of as politicians today.
@zinzanzut1
8 жыл бұрын
The only gripe i have with this upload is that at 7 minutes its too short...this was riveting could have watched hours of it....
@kennedyknew8701
9 жыл бұрын
You missed the best one of all time Galloway v Zionists!
In politics, envy is always the most popular sin. Profits and success are one of the few things still regarded as "obsence".
@ajt22
3 жыл бұрын
I love how old Arthur pops up and didn't actually need to say anything.
@nelsonmandela2062
7 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant. Where can I find more?
@markwatkins8309
7 жыл бұрын
Prescott does seem to win these battles in the moment but viewed again with discernment he's just huff and puff and blow your house down. Benn not so pleasant on Jenkins which is interesting. I guess these clips are more about personality clashes than so much on political beliefs (policy differences). All are rich around the table!
@Myndir
Жыл бұрын
@@bessiehillum6498 Blair said in his memoirs that a bit of humour was a great way to win an argument when facts and logic weren't on your side. Prescott's way of handling such situations was to act outraged.
@carelesshx
7 жыл бұрын
Piers Morgan's lost none of his charm has he?
@ogbsoffgrid.3683
5 жыл бұрын
Complete twunt
@saints16o5o87
5 жыл бұрын
@@ogbsoffgrid.3683 yep morgans a total prick, clueless and arrogant as anyone ever on TV
@DamoMcDermott
3 жыл бұрын
What charm
@iskrajackal9049
Жыл бұрын
🤣
@danielmurray1490
7 ай бұрын
Tony Benn is absolutely bang on there
@paulbennett1860
Жыл бұрын
Seear made mincemeat of John Smith god rest them both
@Myndir
Жыл бұрын
She was wrong on his devolution position, but right on everything else. Smith was a good man, but flexible with the truth like most politicians.
@camban
5 жыл бұрын
Back when political debate was intelligent by comparative standards to today.
@thomasmohan9565
4 жыл бұрын
More of these videos please!
@zarrow50
7 жыл бұрын
Where both Prescott and Cecil Parkingsone knobbing their secretaries?
@adamfowle8073
4 жыл бұрын
Yes but the slimy fat philanderer kept his job in a corrupt Labour government run by Bliar Mandy and fucking Campbell
@PenisMcWhirtar
3 жыл бұрын
@@adamfowle8073 Oh yeah Adam, but difference was that Parkinson's secretary was a vulnerable young man, fresh from Oxford, eager to please his stern master whereas Prescott's secretary was a big, curvy northern lass who put sugar in the tea and liked a bit of slap and tickle. 👁 👁 👁️ 👁️ 👁 👁 👄 👄 👄 Vote for puffters if you want, but I'm a LABOUR man!
@adamfowle8073
3 жыл бұрын
@@PenisMcWhirtar I'm glad you cleared that up for me. Keep gays out of Labour you say? How is Twigg and Mandy btw 🤔🤔
@PenisMcWhirtar
3 жыл бұрын
@@adamfowle8073 Hopefully behind bars in some Cambodian prison LOL!!!
@moulinyan
3 жыл бұрын
they're arguing about who spent more on the NHS.. it's like a never ending loop.
@petermernagh9991
3 жыл бұрын
John Prescott arguing against spending money on war...that didn't age well
@disct1597
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget 10 years and longer (read some old telegraph papers) before the actual war with Iraq our conservatives wanted to go into war with Iraq 1991. It took a Republican president Bush to settle old wounds of his father to convince Britain with their dodgy intelligent evidence, which Bush laughed about at a dinner event few years later. Also the Conservatives supported the war 100% there was no objection and there was unity within parliament after seeing the same evidence as PM Blair at the time. Evidentially this was an American war and Britain was just the poodle following America regardless of party, main European countries didn’t want to and didn’t go to war with Iraq. Today we are pretending about Ukraine but the real war is between Russia and America and the poor Ukrainians are being used as the fall guys!! There is a bigger picture and is never black and white unless we are being partisan!
@MosesDeLaRoses
Жыл бұрын
Ah now you see they were cuddly New Labour bombs. When the Tories wage war it's nasty and evil
@funchalflash6994
7 жыл бұрын
OMG i Can't believe how young Mr Starkey looks
@funchalflash6994
7 жыл бұрын
sorry of course with respect a Young Dr starkey
@truckerfromreno
6 жыл бұрын
Prescott was a scary fella in his prime.
@deenuk125
7 жыл бұрын
Was I the only one going DAMNN when Morgan was asked to leave
@philbateman1989
5 жыл бұрын
Wow, David Starkey looked really different back then.
@branstonpickle9055
6 жыл бұрын
Was that Piers Corbyn at 5.47?
@johnnydancer69
4 жыл бұрын
Great compilation. Well done!
@Judewilkinsonjfk
7 жыл бұрын
That last point by Prescott was excellent.
@rumourhats
Жыл бұрын
@@bessiehillum6498 What a load of bollocks.
@Myndir
Жыл бұрын
Not really, unless you think that everyone should be paid the same. Prescott wouldn't work for any sane minimum wage, therefore his position is inconsistent with the ideas he was using. But he was always a better salesman than a thinker.
@gwh3013
2 жыл бұрын
Shame they cropped the Hislop example, the extended version gives his rather funny response
@BossySwan
8 ай бұрын
Ted Heath was hilariously grumpy
@beligerentlondoner
4 жыл бұрын
Dear old Cess! We miss him so.
@CaradhrasAiguo49
3 жыл бұрын
0:10 why didn't you resign from the Cabinet before the criminal invasion of Iraq, then (which Robin Cook did), Lord Prescott?
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat
7 жыл бұрын
5:08 Archer versus Starkey on lowering the age of consent - a good fight.
@FlabbyTitmuss
6 жыл бұрын
alphabetaxenonzzzcat Yes it was by far the best of the 'discussions' here. Archer may have been a liar and an all around awful human being, but he wasn't totally devoid of talent.
@katyb6979
4 жыл бұрын
Shame we didn't get Ted Heath involved in that discussion...
@jixuscrixus1967
3 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Archer was a better ‘pot boiler’ novelist than he was as an elected member of parliament. Telling tall tales to sell paperbacks doesn’t give you the skills to serve as an MP (unless you prefer your conservative representative to be a lying two faced hypocritical bastard).
@MosesDeLaRoses
Жыл бұрын
As much as I love Starkey, we all know he had a horse in that race
@Myndir
Жыл бұрын
Specifically, the gay age of consent. Archer's position was pretty silly: as a man in his 50s, he should be allowed to sleep with a 16 year old girl, but a 18 year old gay guy shouldn't be able to sleep with a 17 year old guy. Oh, but an 18 year old lesbian should be able to sleep with a 17 year old girl. Archer may be outraged at people doubting whether that was a sincere conviction or a compromise to appeal across a division among Tory voters, but to be frank and EXTREMELY controversial, I don't trust Jeffrey Archer... ... Unless he was sincere about the gays, but really liked 16 year old girls and thought that teenage lesbianism was cool. I can imagine that Archer might think that way.
@darengardner6219
7 жыл бұрын
this was when QT was an actual debate instead of a party political broadcast for lefty virtue signallers . it's crap now .
@georgehayes3494
7 жыл бұрын
Daren Gardner lefty? have you seen the sitting tory councillor being treated like a member of the public a couple of weeks ago?
@ScoundrelDaysSon
7 жыл бұрын
Lefty? You are aware that nearly all the top positions within the BBC news/politics teams are held by affirmed Tories?
@GOLDSMITHEXILE
6 жыл бұрын
when will folk realise the tory/lab/lib dim labels are all different colours of the same banal, morally bankrupt product (europhile pro-eu federal empire concensus)??
@williamfrancis5367
5 жыл бұрын
@@GOLDSMITHEXILE. Huh? The leadership of the first two are very keen on brexit. And in the case of the Tory's euroscepticism is all the rage (e.g Rees-Mogg). Seriously, read a newspaper once in a while.
@JimJim-kh8rw
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant 👏 😅
@edmund184
5 жыл бұрын
6:19 Benn doesn't refute the accusations, and they are perfectly valid.
@robbryant52
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@DeniseFactor
5 жыл бұрын
Prescott and his 'Politics of Envy' bandwagon
@PenisMcWhirtar
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, fücking ace guy and so is Benn at 5:20 - fück those rich, arrogant bästärds over good and proper.
@montgomery3748
5 жыл бұрын
Ennio Morricone - My Fault ? - My Name is Nobody is the music for all those wondering
@kingspunkbubble
5 жыл бұрын
£2.00 an hour minimum wage! Well, that might not have been too bad back then considering a house would have cost £30,000!
@billyhunter5670
6 жыл бұрын
Baroness Seear tore John Smith to pieces. He barely crawled away with his patronising comments... Labour was so sexist then.
@mindblast3901
6 жыл бұрын
Labour sold their core voters out long ago
@billyhunter5670
6 жыл бұрын
Mind Blast I agree. It is a shame
@naturalbornchiller158
3 жыл бұрын
We used to speak to eloquently and articulate ourselves artfully. What happened?
@johnmc3862
Жыл бұрын
@@bessiehillum6498lol!
@gamingwithslacker
2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where I can find the fully Question Time episode in 1986 with Jenkins and Benn ?
@richmotroni
3 жыл бұрын
Piers Morgan is such a horrible person. When he did his show for CNN in America, we Americans were wondering what did we do to anger the wonderful British people to send this monster to our shores.
@DCI-Frank-Burnside
8 жыл бұрын
Thank God time's have changed and we've managed to get rid of all those fusty, middle-aged, Oxbridge types from Westminster!
@paulh7360
7 жыл бұрын
Woody Hutton hehe
@Sheena1234ization
6 жыл бұрын
they were better than what we have now
@GOLDSMITHEXILE
6 жыл бұрын
Peter Shore and Barbara Castle were sound, at least they were not under any illusions about the inevitable loss of parliamentary independence and the growth of centralised eu federation
@davelowe1977
6 жыл бұрын
Ron Wheatcroft You mean the competent people?
@Secret19977
6 жыл бұрын
Embittered Drunk do you enjoy being ageist
@nicksundin
8 жыл бұрын
Spot Ed Miliband (actually is him) in the front row at 4:11
@DAN13LS70NE
8 жыл бұрын
Nick what you chatting son?
@MrSkonny
5 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t look like him.
@jackhadroom4540
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrSkonny Nick should have gone to specsavers
@PrivateAckbar
9 жыл бұрын
Has David Starkey ever said anything relevant? He gets his knickers in a twist about nonsense.
@errolkim1334
7 жыл бұрын
Morgan and Prescott only had insults and slights.
@eamonnbrady5050
2 жыл бұрын
Compared with political minnows that inhabit politics today all participants in the video were GIANTS! Oh! for a Benn or a Presscott or even a Heseltine or Jenkins. Question Time was once essential viewing.
@RonWylie-gk5lc
5 жыл бұрын
And there it is, the Truth " it's what people are prepared to except for getting a job" and it hasn't changed one bit all these years later. What about the profits they are prepared to accept !, they make me sick
@BIGT537
6 жыл бұрын
In 1994 many of us were on £2 per hour but we were signing on as well so you were still paying us Heseltine (;
@66Pipes66
6 жыл бұрын
I don’t see much different to today,this is a compilation of good or heated words. It was the same old claptrap then as it is today. The difference of course being the hand-picked audience member questions to suit the producers politics/narrative/ego. The amount of times they sneak activists in is a joke. I wouldn’t be surprised if they had the odd actor on too. Then they all answer the question and it gets a bit rowdy coz feelings are hurt,yaaaaaawn.
@Myndir
Жыл бұрын
"It's DISGUSTING!"
@tonyclifton265
2 жыл бұрын
epic stuff!
@stringer-ik1pc
6 жыл бұрын
How Lord Prescott has changed.??
@tcpgblizzard
10 жыл бұрын
Tony Benn... thank God he never had any real power in this country!
@tcpgblizzard
9 жыл бұрын
pgI0897 Troll somewhere else.
@tcpgblizzard
9 жыл бұрын
utubecomment21 Another one?! Go troll elsewhere.
@utubecomment21
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for confirming my assertion :)
@tcpgblizzard
9 жыл бұрын
utubecomment21 Likewise.
@pgl0897
9 жыл бұрын
thisiszaphodbeeblebr i'll agree with you quickly before mr blizzard deletes your comment as it doesn't align with his own worldview.
@anonscot.5807
6 жыл бұрын
Great work could you do a more modern version?
@Dougal-Mcguire
5 жыл бұрын
its like a fucking school classroom.
@patrickdixon9897
9 жыл бұрын
brand v farage
@rahulkemp8347
6 жыл бұрын
yes that was a good bit of pantomime but they are both lightweights....
@UmerKhan-yj7wk
6 жыл бұрын
Tony benn is a legend
@simonzonenblick395
8 жыл бұрын
Benn's argument was hypocritical.
@simonzonenblick395
8 жыл бұрын
To be honest I can't really remember what I meant now, but probably a little swipe at how he attacked Jenkins for betraying the people who put him where he was, when Benn himself was basically where he was due to a very rich background (and I may be wrong but I believe the family were from a Liberal background?) yet he spent his whole career attacking the rich. I honestly don't see anything wrong with Jenkins moving parties - many of us change our minds and alter our thinking through life, and he found that he could not in all conscience advocate policies with which he totally disagreed, so he did the honourable thing and moved on.
@williamwallace2278
6 жыл бұрын
How? He is a man who stuck to his core beliefs until his death
@Myndir
Жыл бұрын
@@williamwallace2278 By Benn's logic, he was himself a class traitor.
@besserman1
9 жыл бұрын
People like Jenkins should have joined the Tories.It never ceases to amaze me why they don't.
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat
7 жыл бұрын
I don't think Jenkins ever thought much of Thatcher - that might have been one of the reasons. Plus, I think he wanted to be leader of his own party.
@HPRam
4 жыл бұрын
Because as moderate democratic socialists, we are not Tories. Simple as. Just because we don’t as aspire to a purer form of socialism doesn’t make us Tories. Why is this so difficult to understand by those to the left of us?
@besserman1
4 жыл бұрын
HP R It seems that Jenkins had some sympathy with my point of view. He left the Labour Party and joined the SDP when it was formed. Not quite the same as joining the Tories I suppose
@briandelaney9710
3 жыл бұрын
They are pretty much wet Tories. I remember Dick Crossman writing in his famous diaries , that Jenkins was temperamentally unsuited to the Labour Party
@besserman1
3 жыл бұрын
@@HPRam We understand it.We just don’t believe it. I don’t anyway.Maybe I need to revise my definition of Tory
@paultindall2719
9 жыл бұрын
imagine john presscot arguing with heseltine about low wages .then years later helping blair to turn us into a low wage economy with mass immigration pro thatcherite policies .and privatising everything that wasnt nailed down .you couldnt make it up .could you.
@paulh7360
7 жыл бұрын
Paul Tindall so true no such thing as a real labor party since 1960+
@Inthemixmedia
6 жыл бұрын
I agree but would he have much influence with Brown, Mandy and Blair to contend with?
@williamfrancis5367
6 жыл бұрын
1) Real median wages significantly grew under Blair ( plus he instituted the national minimum wage). 2) Name me five things Blair privatized (bet you can't). 3) Stop blaming immigration for social problems.
@williamfrancis5367
6 жыл бұрын
Come on this "Real Labour Party" never existed in the first place. Such nostalgia is pathetic really. The Labour left has always hated Labour PMs from the Labour Party ( which includes all of them), at the time only to praise them years after they left office and spend the next few years pining after them. It happened with Attlee, it happen with Wilson, it happened with Callaghan, and it will happened to Blair.
@petermills542
5 жыл бұрын
@@williamfrancis5367 Some 'real /old Labour' have always been too content with opposition protest ! Which actually achieves nothing at all ! Unbelievably Labour will quite likely not win a majority at the next , post Mrs May , General Election !! Very sad but true I think.
@TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods
7 жыл бұрын
Prescott is really effective in this format. What a scrapper.
@tomkent4656
6 жыл бұрын
He was a thug. An ex-waiter who was in Blair's cabinet only because of a deal made with the Trades Union. He was their Minder and used his position to feather his own nest!
@colinsweeney2628
7 жыл бұрын
Dear God what an odious opportunistic toad Prescott is.
@gmonkey6523
5 жыл бұрын
@3.00 Smith would be shocked if he saw what Scots devolution has done to the UK and Labour Party.
@frankspence8460
6 жыл бұрын
Roy Jenkins, worst Home Secretary in history!
@tennis5011
5 жыл бұрын
Without any doubt...he should have stuck to being chancellor instead! His poor decisions created the society that we live in today.
@jimorourke8870
9 жыл бұрын
I think Roy Jenkins did betray the labour movement
@jonsouth1545
9 жыл бұрын
Jim ORourke nonsense if anything Roy Jenkins saved it as the departure of the gang of four and the disastrous leadership of Michael Foot forced the labour party to look away from their failed economic polices and embrace the good of the whole country not just their trade union paymasters who were a cancer to the productivity of the British workforce. Unfortunately Milliband and Brown (to much lesser extent) went back down the Michael foot route an alienated millions of potential voters resulting in the current debarkle that is the labour party
@AdamE96
9 жыл бұрын
Labour's vote share actually increased since the last election. So clearly Miliband did something right. In 1997 Blair won a landslide (over 13 million votes) with the help of traditional Labour support as well as middle-class Tory voters wooed by 'New Labour.' In 2001 that vote share went down by roughly 2.5 million but they only lost five seats due to the First Past The Post voting system but also turnout was very low as well at only 59% of the electorate cast their ballots. In 2005 Labour's vote continued to dwindle by over another million however it was the Tory vote share that held up as traditional Labour support had evaporated due to the Iraq War and ever narrowing differences between Labour and the Tories. They got just over 21% of the electorate's support yet continued with a majority of 66. By 2010 Labour's vote decreased another million and they lost the election. However in 2015 Labour's vote share actually increased by over 700,000 votes. Yet they lost 26 seats. FPTP is disproportionate anyway but Labour lost around 5 million of it's core voters by moving rightwards into the same toxic area as the Tories. Ed Miliband took the party a few baby steps back to the Left and it gained them well over half a million votes back. If they moved further to the Left they'd most certainly gain more. I'm not calling for them to go to the extreme but there is huge public appetite for left-wing policies. There just isn't any credible parties offering it.
@jimorourke8870
9 жыл бұрын
It's the people who didn't vote at all that mystify me .do they agree with Tory policy towards the poor or perhaps they couldn't care less.
@propertydoc19
8 жыл бұрын
Well I think they didn't bother because they couldn't find a clear alternative party -who could win the election - to vote for. They probably don't like the Conservatives just as much as you and me. However Labour were just offering austerity-lite policies and were just seen as similar to the Tories during the general election. In addition Ed Miliband appeared weak and uninspiring. The Lib Dems were also offering austerity-lite polices and they had lost popularity as a result of supporting the increase in tuition fees, the bedroom tax and the 2012 welfare reform bill. Meanwhile the Green Party were just in another world of their own and didn't appear electable. Finally UKIP appeared racist and divisive. So I think if parties such as Labour and the Lib Dems oppose the Conservatives, oppose austerity and offer radical, alternative polices then I think more people would vote in general elections.
@jimorourke8870
8 жыл бұрын
I agree with you as regards the lack of difference between the parties. I have no idea who Ed Milliband is which feels strange as he was supposed to be a leader in waiting. Everything good that was previously agreed with tories and lib dems has been chucked out of the window. But wonder why there is so much antagonism to the current Labour leader? He won the vote and is offering alternative policies.
@pault5947
6 жыл бұрын
I've never seen Piers Morgan win a discussion!
@yogihaughton
Жыл бұрын
That clip with Heseltine and Prescott, capitalism exposed right there.
@louisem4968
5 жыл бұрын
QT in the days when heavy weights were on.
@CrankCase08
9 жыл бұрын
At 0.23 .. Is that Bernie Grant in the audience?
@CrankCase08
2 жыл бұрын
@Bessie Hillum Indeed. I posted that 8 years ago, before I realised it to be the case.
@OldglenSea-cw4ps
5 жыл бұрын
Ah, Robin Day, you are sorely missed! Dumbleby could never replace you and this woman - yuk!
@Lamilton82828
5 жыл бұрын
Because 100,000,000 isn’t an important amount of money
@jayd4ever
8 жыл бұрын
Edward Heath, Denis Healey, Harold Wilson, Roy Jenkins, James Callaghan were all very similar
@tennis5011
5 жыл бұрын
How? I don't see any similarity between Callaghan and Jenkins whatsoever!
@Sheena1234ization
6 жыл бұрын
What's the music called?
@joelennon432
7 жыл бұрын
Edward heath the nonce
@tomlowe8563
6 жыл бұрын
Hastings is Kenneth williams
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat
8 жыл бұрын
Starkey versus Archer. I remember that episode. It was over lowering the age of consent for homosexuals. The Jenkins versus Benn fight was interesting as well - ironic, that Jenkins then tried to cosy up to Blair later on. Shame about Prescott - back then he seemed a proper socialist standing up for working people - nowadays, in the Lords and he took us into Iraq(even though now he says it was a mistake).
@bighands69
8 жыл бұрын
Socialism has nothing to do with working class. It is a political/economic ideology. The socialists have done a great job in convincing working class people that socialism is the answer. When every time it has been attempted it has failed.
@mattlamb1566
7 жыл бұрын
Of course it is to do with the working class. It is about protecting and/or enhancing the rights of the working class against the upper classes.
@bighands69
4 жыл бұрын
@@mattlamb1566 Socialism has never helped the working class. Most of them have no idea what socialism is.
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